Re: Getting Started with DataGrid and another datagrid form
Like I said, someone will have a more elegant way of doing it. :-) Bob S > On Aug 6, 2018, at 10:29 , zryip theSlug via use-livecode > wrote: > > Bob, > > A column template exists for each column of a dg table, so you can use any > control you want inside a datagrid column, including widgets. > > Here is a link to a DGH's screenshot . On the left, we have properties for > a column (row or header). This is a datagrid table with two visible > columns. The second column is displaying checkboxes, text, popup menus, > images, widgets, etc depending of the property type. This is not a trick, > this is perfectly supported by datagrid tables. > > https://livecode.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/image14-26.png ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Getting Started with DataGrid and another datagrid form
I found another way. Set standard background a opacity=0 add an new container graphic. then make the background bigger that the controls, But it won't hilite. So I might use your method. On 8/6/18 11:33 AM, zryip theSlug via use-livecode wrote: > I have created this kind of form before: roundrect background and margins > between 2 rows. > For the background I used my own graphic. The background graphic if present > is used by the datagrid library for hiliting the row. I removed it. > And for magins, I used a row height upper than the height of my custom > background. The margins between 2 rows are transparent, so I was able to > see the card's background without doing something specific with the > datagrid. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Getting Started with DataGrid and another datagrid form
Dear Swami, I have created this kind of form before: roundrect background and margins between 2 rows. For the background I used my own graphic. The background graphic if present is used by the datagrid library for hiliting the row. I removed it. And for magins, I used a row height upper than the height of my custom background. The margins between 2 rows are transparent, so I was able to see the card's background without doing something specific with the datagrid. On Mon, Aug 6, 2018 at 9:03 PM, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode wrote: > On 8/6/18 7:29 AM, zryip theSlug via use-livecode wrote: > > Bob, > > > > A column template exists for each column of a dg table, so you can use > any > > control you want inside a datagrid column, including widgets. > > > > Here is a link to a DGH's screenshot . On the left, we have properties > for > > a column (row or header). This is a datagrid table with two visible > > columns. The second column is displaying checkboxes, text, popup menus, > > images, widgets, etc depending of the property type. This is not a trick, > > this is perfectly supported by datagrid tables. > > > > https://livecode.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/image14-26.png > > > > On Mon, Aug 6, 2018 at 6:22 PM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode < > > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > > >> The template is like the group editor. In fact it may actually BE the > >> group editor. The behavior script determines what to do when a row is > >> drawn. > >> > >> I think the thing to understand about datagrids, table or forms, is that > >> for each array element in the data (itself an array) the template is > >> "cloned". Each row is a "clone" of the template. But for forms, the > >> behavior does not know what you want to do when the rows are created. > For > >> instance, you may want to color negative numbers in red, or surround > them > >> with parenthesis. You may have a button that needs to be hilited or not > >> depending on the value for that control. Perhaps you have a field that > can > >> contain multiple lines of text, and you need to set the row height for > each > >> row based upon the formattedHeight of that field. Or maybe show and hide > >> objects etc. > >> > >> The beauty of a form datagrid is that how each individual row gets drawn > >> is entirely under your own programmatical control. A table datagrid is > >> simply like a spreadsheet with fixed row heights and no support for > >> graphics or other controls. > >> > >> BTW I kinda cheated and made a way to have checkboxes for a table style > >> datagrid. I simply had a group with checkboxes overlaying a "dummy" > column > >> in the datagrid. When I queried for data I put something like: > >> > >> SELECT '' AS checkmark, '' AS checkmarkvalue, * FROM customers > >> > >> This put two empty strings in my array data (I use sqlYoga so I get > arrays > >> back instead of cursors, but the idea is the same). I only defined a > column > >> for "checkmark", but NOT for "checkmarkvalue". This allowed me to have a > >> blank column to overlay the checkboxes on, and a hidden column to hold > the > >> checkmarkvalue for each row in the datagrid data. > >> > >> Then when I populated the datagrid, I hid all the checkboxes then showed > >> each checkbox control based upon how much data was being displayed. Of > >> course, you have to account for scrolling, so that can be tricky, but it > >> was a poor man's way of adding checkboxes to a table datagrid. Others > could > >> probably come up with a more elegant solution. > >> > >> Bob S > >> > >> > >>> On Aug 5, 2018, at 10:03 , Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode > < > >> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > >>> I slowly studying as much as we can on the datagrid,and "digging" in it > >> with an first attempt to build a form. > >>> One thing is not clear to me. > >>> > >>> 1) Have the WYSIG panel to build the datagrid form. > >>> > >>> 2) why then do we have, in the Behavior Script this handler? > >>> > >>> Isn't the layout already pre-determined in the template? > >> > >> ___ > >> use-livecode mailing list > >> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > >> subscription preferences: > >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > >> > > > > > > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > -- Zryip TheSlug http://www.aslugontheroad.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Getting Started with DataGrid and another datagrid form
On 8/6/18 7:29 AM, zryip theSlug via use-livecode wrote: > Bob, > > A column template exists for each column of a dg table, so you can use any > control you want inside a datagrid column, including widgets. > > Here is a link to a DGH's screenshot . On the left, we have properties for > a column (row or header). This is a datagrid table with two visible > columns. The second column is displaying checkboxes, text, popup menus, > images, widgets, etc depending of the property type. This is not a trick, > this is perfectly supported by datagrid tables. > > https://livecode.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/image14-26.png > > On Mon, Aug 6, 2018 at 6:22 PM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode < > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > >> The template is like the group editor. In fact it may actually BE the >> group editor. The behavior script determines what to do when a row is >> drawn. >> >> I think the thing to understand about datagrids, table or forms, is that >> for each array element in the data (itself an array) the template is >> "cloned". Each row is a "clone" of the template. But for forms, the >> behavior does not know what you want to do when the rows are created. For >> instance, you may want to color negative numbers in red, or surround them >> with parenthesis. You may have a button that needs to be hilited or not >> depending on the value for that control. Perhaps you have a field that can >> contain multiple lines of text, and you need to set the row height for each >> row based upon the formattedHeight of that field. Or maybe show and hide >> objects etc. >> >> The beauty of a form datagrid is that how each individual row gets drawn >> is entirely under your own programmatical control. A table datagrid is >> simply like a spreadsheet with fixed row heights and no support for >> graphics or other controls. >> >> BTW I kinda cheated and made a way to have checkboxes for a table style >> datagrid. I simply had a group with checkboxes overlaying a "dummy" column >> in the datagrid. When I queried for data I put something like: >> >> SELECT '' AS checkmark, '' AS checkmarkvalue, * FROM customers >> >> This put two empty strings in my array data (I use sqlYoga so I get arrays >> back instead of cursors, but the idea is the same). I only defined a column >> for "checkmark", but NOT for "checkmarkvalue". This allowed me to have a >> blank column to overlay the checkboxes on, and a hidden column to hold the >> checkmarkvalue for each row in the datagrid data. >> >> Then when I populated the datagrid, I hid all the checkboxes then showed >> each checkbox control based upon how much data was being displayed. Of >> course, you have to account for scrolling, so that can be tricky, but it >> was a poor man's way of adding checkboxes to a table datagrid. Others could >> probably come up with a more elegant solution. >> >> Bob S >> >> >>> On Aug 5, 2018, at 10:03 , Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode < >> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: >>> I slowly studying as much as we can on the datagrid,and "digging" in it >> with an first attempt to build a form. >>> One thing is not clear to me. >>> >>> 1) Have the WYSIG panel to build the datagrid form. >>> >>> 2) why then do we have, in the Behavior Script this handler? >>> >>> Isn't the layout already pre-determined in the template? >> >> ___ >> use-livecode mailing list >> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >> subscription preferences: >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode >> > > ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Getting Started with DataGrid and another datagrid form
Bob, A column template exists for each column of a dg table, so you can use any control you want inside a datagrid column, including widgets. Here is a link to a DGH's screenshot . On the left, we have properties for a column (row or header). This is a datagrid table with two visible columns. The second column is displaying checkboxes, text, popup menus, images, widgets, etc depending of the property type. This is not a trick, this is perfectly supported by datagrid tables. https://livecode.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/image14-26.png On Mon, Aug 6, 2018 at 6:22 PM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > The template is like the group editor. In fact it may actually BE the > group editor. The behavior script determines what to do when a row is > drawn. > > I think the thing to understand about datagrids, table or forms, is that > for each array element in the data (itself an array) the template is > "cloned". Each row is a "clone" of the template. But for forms, the > behavior does not know what you want to do when the rows are created. For > instance, you may want to color negative numbers in red, or surround them > with parenthesis. You may have a button that needs to be hilited or not > depending on the value for that control. Perhaps you have a field that can > contain multiple lines of text, and you need to set the row height for each > row based upon the formattedHeight of that field. Or maybe show and hide > objects etc. > > The beauty of a form datagrid is that how each individual row gets drawn > is entirely under your own programmatical control. A table datagrid is > simply like a spreadsheet with fixed row heights and no support for > graphics or other controls. > > BTW I kinda cheated and made a way to have checkboxes for a table style > datagrid. I simply had a group with checkboxes overlaying a "dummy" column > in the datagrid. When I queried for data I put something like: > > SELECT '' AS checkmark, '' AS checkmarkvalue, * FROM customers > > This put two empty strings in my array data (I use sqlYoga so I get arrays > back instead of cursors, but the idea is the same). I only defined a column > for "checkmark", but NOT for "checkmarkvalue". This allowed me to have a > blank column to overlay the checkboxes on, and a hidden column to hold the > checkmarkvalue for each row in the datagrid data. > > Then when I populated the datagrid, I hid all the checkboxes then showed > each checkbox control based upon how much data was being displayed. Of > course, you have to account for scrolling, so that can be tricky, but it > was a poor man's way of adding checkboxes to a table datagrid. Others could > probably come up with a more elegant solution. > > Bob S > > > > On Aug 5, 2018, at 10:03 , Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode < > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > > > I slowly studying as much as we can on the datagrid,and "digging" in it > with an first attempt to build a form. > > > > One thing is not clear to me. > > > > 1) Have the WYSIG panel to build the datagrid form. > > > > 2) why then do we have, in the Behavior Script this handler? > > > > Isn't the layout already pre-determined in the template? > > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > -- Zryip TheSlug http://www.aslugontheroad.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Getting Started with DataGrid and another datagrid form
The template is like the group editor. In fact it may actually BE the group editor. The behavior script determines what to do when a row is drawn. I think the thing to understand about datagrids, table or forms, is that for each array element in the data (itself an array) the template is "cloned". Each row is a "clone" of the template. But for forms, the behavior does not know what you want to do when the rows are created. For instance, you may want to color negative numbers in red, or surround them with parenthesis. You may have a button that needs to be hilited or not depending on the value for that control. Perhaps you have a field that can contain multiple lines of text, and you need to set the row height for each row based upon the formattedHeight of that field. Or maybe show and hide objects etc. The beauty of a form datagrid is that how each individual row gets drawn is entirely under your own programmatical control. A table datagrid is simply like a spreadsheet with fixed row heights and no support for graphics or other controls. BTW I kinda cheated and made a way to have checkboxes for a table style datagrid. I simply had a group with checkboxes overlaying a "dummy" column in the datagrid. When I queried for data I put something like: SELECT '' AS checkmark, '' AS checkmarkvalue, * FROM customers This put two empty strings in my array data (I use sqlYoga so I get arrays back instead of cursors, but the idea is the same). I only defined a column for "checkmark", but NOT for "checkmarkvalue". This allowed me to have a blank column to overlay the checkboxes on, and a hidden column to hold the checkmarkvalue for each row in the datagrid data. Then when I populated the datagrid, I hid all the checkboxes then showed each checkbox control based upon how much data was being displayed. Of course, you have to account for scrolling, so that can be tricky, but it was a poor man's way of adding checkboxes to a table datagrid. Others could probably come up with a more elegant solution. Bob S > On Aug 5, 2018, at 10:03 , Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode > wrote: > > I slowly studying as much as we can on the datagrid,and "digging" in it with > an first attempt to build a form. > > One thing is not clear to me. > > 1) Have the WYSIG panel to build the datagrid form. > > 2) why then do we have, in the Behavior Script this handler? > > Isn't the layout already pre-determined in the template? ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Getting Started with DataGrid and another datagrid form
Yay! I made my first form. Now for questions *not* covered by the lessons. 1) Is the graphic "Background" a special object? In Navigator I opened stack "Data Grid Temple 333" directly editing the group "Row Template". I set background graphic to roundedRectangle, corners set 20px, and applied a linear gradiant with nice colors. I saved the stack. But the graphic did not change? I *can* adjust its rect, and the rounded corners show (appears on hilite, the it is tranparent otherwise) and that sticks, but not linear gradient? 2) How do I make the datagrid transparent (opacity to 0). So that between the rows there is a margin which shows the background of the card coming through. BR ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Getting Started with DataGrid and another datagrid form
I am at the lesson.livecode.com/m/datagrid. They are quite thorough. Much to my chagrin, everything you need to know is there. I would NOT recommend just dragging a Datagrip and "digging in" are even using DG Helper (to start) Read the lessons first (or at same time as you follow along in a stack.) BR ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Getting Started with DataGrid and another datagrid form
Duh! http://lessons.livecode.com/m/datagrid/l/7305-example-creating-a-list-of-people on LayoutControl does seem to be required. So the row template is not WSIWYG? Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode wrote: > Doug > >WSIWYG: I was referring to the row temple "build" screen. > > ... layout handler. I want to understand it... > > maybe studying the on-line lessons *before* asking questions > > Someone should do a graphic or schema diagram of the DG message hierarchy. > > BR ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Getting Started with DataGrid and another datagrid form
Doug WSIWYG: I was referring to the row temple "build" screen. ... layout handler. I want to understand it... maybe studying the on-line lessons *before* asking questions Someone should do a graphic or schema diagram of the DG message hierarchy. BR ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Getting Started with DataGrid and another datagrid form
Aloha zryip I finally figured out that a row has the behavior script that "requires attention" I have yet to try in dghelper. FillInData etc. obviously need controls named according to your grid But I still have the question: The WSIWYG template has the control "where we want them" But is the LayOutControl handler doing? Is it needed? Oh by the way. you need to have a button that set the relayerGroupedControls to true In the form builder, otherwise you can't push an object "back" On 8/5/18 7:26 AM, zryip theSlug via use-livecode wrote: The code you have in the default behavior is the one installed by the inspector located in one of the behavior button (stack only script now, since the dg2) It contains the minimal example code to help the developer starting; FillinData, preFillinData, LayoutControl, etc If you are modifying the template for the datagrid (adding a control, deleting a control, etc) you have to change the code for your datagrid row manually. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Getting Started with DataGrid and another datagrid form
Ah ... I think I can answer this. Basically, you don't *have* to code the "Layout Control" beyond the recommended: set the rect of graphic "Background" of me to pControlRect and even that may be, technically, optional. The handler is there (I believe) as a method by which you can "dynamically" change the layout of a row (using grid FORMS.. the Behavior script is NOT used for TABLE grids) and/or being able to programmatically alter the layout of a row without going through the whole "Edit Group" method. Not sure what you mean or asking about the "WYSIG panel" (never seen "WYSIG" .. only know "WYSIWYG" ... same thing?) ... do you mean the Row Template? Douglas Ruisaard Trilogy Software (250) 573-3935 > From: Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami > To: How to use LiveCode > Subject: Re: Getting Started with DataGrid and another datagrid form > Message-ID: > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > I slowly studying as much as we can on the datagrid,and "digging" in it with > an first attempt to build > a form. > > One thing is not clear to me. > > 1) Have the WYSIG panel to build the datagrid form. > > 2) why then do we have, in the Behavior Script this handler? > > Isn't the layout already pre-determined in the template? > > on LayoutControl pControlRect, pWorkingRect > > local theFieldRect > > -- This message is sent when you should layout your template's controls. > > -- This is where you resize the 'Background' graphic, resize fields and > > -- position objects. > > -- For fixed height data grid forms you can use items 1 through 4 of > pControlRect as > > -- boundaries for laying out your controls. > > -- For variable height data grid forms you can use items 1 through 3 of > pControlRect as > > -- boundaries, expanding the height of your control as needed. > > -- The working rect is defined area of the control you can safelt use. > > -- Use this rect to make sure your controls don't overlap with any edit mode > controls. > > -- Example: > > put the rect of field "Label" of me into theFieldRect > > put item 1 of pWorkingRect into item 1 of theFieldRect > > put item 3 of pWorkingRect - 5 into item 3 of theFieldRect > > set the rect of field "Label" of me to theFieldRect > > set the rect of graphic "Background" of me to pControlRect > > end LayoutControl > > > BR > > ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Getting Started with DataGrid and another datagrid form
The code you have in the default behavior is the one installed by the inspector located in one of the behavior button (stack only script now, since the dg2) It contains the minimal example code to help the developer starting; FillinData, preFillinData, LayoutControl, etc If you are modifying the template for the datagrid (adding a control, deleting a control, etc) you have to change the code for your datagrid row manually. By default the minimal script is considering you have a field "Label" and a "background" graphic. If you are deleting one of them in the template and you do not update the behavior script for the row accordingly, the datagrid library will fire an error when it will try to apply the template to a row. Note that if your are removing the "background" graphic you will lose the possibility to "hilited" a row, at least on screen. When you are updating the template in DGH now, it will install first the default script (like the inspector). If you have done a modification in the template (especially after having delete one object), DGH can help you by building the script required for the controls it will find inside the template. As we want not to erase something in the script which could has been changed by the developer, the operation is manual. Ideally to prevent the datagrid library to send an error with missing controls in the template, you should update the script before to click onto the "update" button. On Sun, Aug 5, 2018 at 7:03 PM, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode wrote: > I slowly studying as much as we can on the datagrid,and "digging" in it > with an first attempt to build a form. > > One thing is not clear to me. > > 1) Have the WYSIG panel to build the datagrid form. > > 2) why then do we have, in the Behavior Script this handler? > > Isn't the layout already pre-determined in the template? > > on LayoutControl pControlRect, pWorkingRect > > local theFieldRect > > -- This message is sent when you should layout your template's controls. > > -- This is where you resize the 'Background' graphic, resize fields and > > -- position objects. > > -- For fixed height data grid forms you can use items 1 through 4 of > pControlRect as > > -- boundaries for laying out your controls. > > -- For variable height data grid forms you can use items 1 through 3 of > pControlRect as > > -- boundaries, expanding the height of your control as needed. > > -- The working rect is defined area of the control you can safelt use. > > -- Use this rect to make sure your controls don't overlap with any edit > mode controls. > > -- Example: > > put the rect of field "Label" of me into theFieldRect > > put item 1 of pWorkingRect into item 1 of theFieldRect > > put item 3 of pWorkingRect - 5 into item 3 of theFieldRect > > set the rect of field "Label" of me to theFieldRect > > set the rect of graphic "Background" of me to pControlRect > > end LayoutControl > > > BR > > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > -- Zryip TheSlug http://www.aslugontheroad.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Getting Started with DataGrid and another datagrid form
I slowly studying as much as we can on the datagrid,and "digging" in it with an first attempt to build a form. One thing is not clear to me. 1) Have the WYSIG panel to build the datagrid form. 2) why then do we have, in the Behavior Script this handler? Isn't the layout already pre-determined in the template? on LayoutControl pControlRect, pWorkingRect local theFieldRect -- This message is sent when you should layout your template's controls. -- This is where you resize the 'Background' graphic, resize fields and -- position objects. -- For fixed height data grid forms you can use items 1 through 4 of pControlRect as -- boundaries for laying out your controls. -- For variable height data grid forms you can use items 1 through 3 of pControlRect as -- boundaries, expanding the height of your control as needed. -- The working rect is defined area of the control you can safelt use. -- Use this rect to make sure your controls don't overlap with any edit mode controls. -- Example: put the rect of field "Label" of me into theFieldRect put item 1 of pWorkingRect into item 1 of theFieldRect put item 3 of pWorkingRect - 5 into item 3 of theFieldRect set the rect of field "Label" of me to theFieldRect set the rect of graphic "Background" of me to pControlRect end LayoutControl BR ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Getting Started with DataGrid and another datagrid form
The more you understand a task, the more versatile and appropriate any given tool becomes. I think the biggest struggle for me is finding examples which are "close" to my own goal. I have no problem reverse engineering code... I've done it for a very long time. But unless the outcome closely approximates my need, such an exercise can be frustrating. In addition LC (which I very much like) has its own quirks regarding datagrids which are VERY confusing to the datagrid newbie... see my most recent issue with scrolling, for example. To provide a more effective and cumulative wishlist of suggestions, expectations and content, I really need to go back and (re-)employ your tool with my (now) somewhat fuller understanding of how to define and manipulate datagrids. I will do so in the near future and get back to you. I suspect that one just has to have a certain amount of base-level understanding of the datagrid components and behaviours in order to use datagrids. It's the old boot-strap problem. > Subject: Re: Getting Started with DataGrid and another datagrid form > question > > Dear Douglas, > > Thanks for your interesting feedback about your attempt to use DGH for the > first time, with creating a datagrid form. > > All the properties for customizing the datagrid apart, I've created the > form template area (the way to custom the content of a row with controls > such as image, buttons, etc) with the following objectives: > - in the standard way to customize a datagrid template, we have to open the > row template group inside the template card. In DGH all this group is > copied inside a "visual" area we can manipulate > - when dropping some controls in the template area, with the datagrid, you > are alone with the required script for managing all these controls. DGH, at > the condition to respond to the right dialog, is building a minimal script > depending of the kind of controls you added. Unfortunately this is > difficult to cover all the needs, because they are all specific depending > of the developer and what he want to do. But at least the goal of the > installed script is to give you the keys and philosophy to understand what > it is required for the controls.For a button, how to perform an action, for > a checkbox, how to check or uncheck it, for an image how to display it, to > click it, etc > - one of the recurrent difficulties for users was to understand the > datagrid rows remains empty until you have populate it. And because it is > empty you will never see the beautiful button or image you have added if > you have not at least a row data. This is why in DGH, upper the template > area, we have a datagrid preview, to see immediately the control we have > added. > > Your comment make me realize that it is not enough when you are beginning > with form template. One of my unexploited idea was to add kind of presets > template with for example a text on the left and four checkboxes on the > right, etc so the developper could start with ready to use templates to add > to his datagrid. The problem of the approach is covering needs, I can't > anticipate. > > What might have you expected from DGH in this task? More tutorial > explaining how the template area is working?, more lessons?, contextual > help in DGH to help you to start? Something else? Feel free to expand, I'm > always interested in approachs or ways I could try to implement in the goal > to improve DGH. > > Douglas Ruisaard Trilogy Software (250) 573-3935 ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Getting Started with DataGrid and another datagrid form question
Dear Douglas, Thanks for your interesting feedback about your attempt to use DGH for the first time, with creating a datagrid form. All the properties for customizing the datagrid apart, I've created the form template area (the way to custom the content of a row with controls such as image, buttons, etc) with the following objectives: - in the standard way to customize a datagrid template, we have to open the row template group inside the template card. In DGH all this group is copied inside a "visual" area we can manipulate - when dropping some controls in the template area, with the datagrid, you are alone with the required script for managing all these controls. DGH, at the condition to respond to the right dialog, is building a minimal script depending of the kind of controls you added. Unfortunately this is difficult to cover all the needs, because they are all specific depending of the developer and what he want to do. But at least the goal of the installed script is to give you the keys and philosophy to understand what it is required for the controls.For a button, how to perform an action, for a checkbox, how to check or uncheck it, for an image how to display it, to click it, etc - one of the recurrent difficulties for users was to understand the datagrid rows remains empty until you have populate it. And because it is empty you will never see the beautiful button or image you have added if you have not at least a row data. This is why in DGH, upper the template area, we have a datagrid preview, to see immediately the control we have added. Your comment make me realize that it is not enough when you are beginning with form template. One of my unexploited idea was to add kind of presets template with for example a text on the left and four checkboxes on the right, etc so the developper could start with ready to use templates to add to his datagrid. The problem of the approach is covering needs, I can't anticipate. What might have you expected from DGH in this task? More tutorial explaining how the template area is working?, more lessons?, contextual help in DGH to help you to start? Something else? Feel free to expand, I'm always interested in approachs or ways I could try to implement in the goal to improve DGH. Thanks in advance. Best Regards, On Sat, Aug 4, 2018 at 4:38 PM, Douglas Ruisaard via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > I concur with Brahmanathaswami that, in particular, datagrid forms (I > haven't worked with tables (yet)) are very finicky with regard to > scrolling. I still would greatly appreciate some help with a recently > submitted message to this group, Subject: > > datagrid form question > > Once you play around with a grid enough, it becomes clearer on what you > can and cannot do. > > Regarding DGH v2... during my initial foray into datagrid forms (very > recent, by the way), I was hoping that DGH v2 would be the panacea for the > initial confusion regarding datagrids. Alas, it is likely a fine tool but, > from my perspective (as many aspects of LC), it may be most effective once > one has mastered the fundamentals of datagrid construction and usage. I > downloaded the trial version and will go back to it ASAP now that I am over > that initial learning hump ... with A LOT more to learn, I'm sure. > > It would probably be worthwhile to read through my two posts under " > datagrid form question " to consider what I discovered with regard to > scrolling... hopefully, I've made the explanation clear enough but if not, > I'd be glad to expand on the subject. > > Thanks in advance. > Doug > > > > At $45.00 (cheap) and with your own endorsement (knowing that it is > maintained) > > > > I'll get it! > > > > Brahmanathaswami > > > > Ps do you have a real name? > > > > ?On 8/2/18, 12:01 PM, "use-livecode on behalf of zryip theSlug via > use-livecode" > boun...@lists.runrev.com on behalf of use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> > wrote: > > > > Dear Swami, > > > > We have some free material about datagrids form or table. > > > > 1. A tutorial written long time ago before I created DGH, exploring > the > > very basic concepts of the datagrid control (form and table): > > http://www.aslugontheroad.com/download/category/3-tutorials > > > > 2. Some demo stacks created for demonstrating datagrid's > possibilities such > > as drag and drop, calculation, etc > > http://www.aslugontheroad.com/download/category/4-lab > > > > 3. About your screenshot, a datagrid form will be your better option > in my > > opinion. > > > > 4. And about Data Grid Helper, I can not answer objectively to your > > question, for sure. All I can say is the tool has regular updates for > > supporting the new versions of LiveCode. A new major (nothing to do > with > > our friend Klaus :) (I prefer to specify because he made me the joke > on the > > livecode forum, haha :) )) 2.5 version has been released in June > supporting > >
Re: Getting Started with DataGrid
Thank you for your service, Mr. slug. I love your revolutionary spirit, and thank you for your contributions, priceless on this list. I’m blown away. On Sat, Aug 4, 2018 at 10:09 zryip theSlug via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Dear Swami, > > Thanks for your purchase. > > > Yes I do have a real name and I do have a good reason to not share it > publicly. When I came with the personnal challenge 8 years ago to create a > commercial plugin, I was an employee and as a developper, my employment > contract was containing a clause not allowing me to develop something like > that. > Now, even if I'm no longer a developer (my service was closed some years > ago, and I failed to find a new job like the old one, because I have just > no diploma in development, despite more than 10 years experience in > different languages) my new employer not allowed me to cumulate salaries > even if I might earn one dollar with an another activity. I asked and he > was clear in his reply. > > So I don't know what rules you have in your countries, but these rules are > real in mine and my risk is just to be fired. As I'm considering I'm free > to do what I want during my free time and hobbies, to be sure this will > never happen, you will never seen my real name anywhere. > > So I'm quite outlaw, free to do what I want (developping a commercial > plugin during my free time, just because this was an old dream, a challenge > and this is actually for me a way to continue to code for real users), > using an odd nick name, which is well worth another. > > That's all the story behind this. Hope I have clarified this a bit. > > > Best Regards, > > On Fri, Aug 3, 2018 at 4:14 AM, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode > wrote: > > > Aloha "Zryip" > > > > At $45.00 (cheap) and with your own endorsement (knowing that it is > > maintained) > > > > I'll get it! > > > > Brahmanathaswami > > > > Ps do you have a real name? > > > > On 8/2/18, 12:01 PM, "use-livecode on behalf of zryip theSlug via > > use-livecode" > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > > > Dear Swami, > > > > We have some free material about datagrids form or table. > > > > 1. A tutorial written long time ago before I created DGH, exploring > the > > very basic concepts of the datagrid control (form and table): > > http://www.aslugontheroad.com/download/category/3-tutorials > > > > 2. Some demo stacks created for demonstrating datagrid's > possibilities > > such > > as drag and drop, calculation, etc > > http://www.aslugontheroad.com/download/category/4-lab > > > > 3. About your screenshot, a datagrid form will be your better option > > in my > > opinion. > > > > 4. And about Data Grid Helper, I can not answer objectively to your > > question, for sure. All I can say is the tool has regular updates for > > supporting the new versions of LiveCode. A new major (nothing to do > > with > > our friend Klaus :) (I prefer to specify because he made me the joke > > on the > > livecode forum, haha :) )) 2.5 version has been released in June > > supporting > > dg2 properties, widgets, custom headers, etc. A blog article has been > > published about it, with some available screenshots of the new > > features: > > > https://livecode.com/data-grid-helper-2-5-adds-support-for-datagrid-2/ > > > > Now, if someone in the List want to add a comment about DGH, positive > > or > > not, he / she is welcome. :) > > > > > > Best Regards, > > > > > > > > ___ > > use-livecode mailing list > > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > > subscription preferences: > > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > > > > > > -- > Zryip TheSlug > http://www.aslugontheroad.com > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- -- Stephen Barncard - Sebastopol Ca. USA - mixstream.org ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Getting Started with DataGrid
Dear Swami, Thanks for your purchase. Yes I do have a real name and I do have a good reason to not share it publicly. When I came with the personnal challenge 8 years ago to create a commercial plugin, I was an employee and as a developper, my employment contract was containing a clause not allowing me to develop something like that. Now, even if I'm no longer a developer (my service was closed some years ago, and I failed to find a new job like the old one, because I have just no diploma in development, despite more than 10 years experience in different languages) my new employer not allowed me to cumulate salaries even if I might earn one dollar with an another activity. I asked and he was clear in his reply. So I don't know what rules you have in your countries, but these rules are real in mine and my risk is just to be fired. As I'm considering I'm free to do what I want during my free time and hobbies, to be sure this will never happen, you will never seen my real name anywhere. So I'm quite outlaw, free to do what I want (developping a commercial plugin during my free time, just because this was an old dream, a challenge and this is actually for me a way to continue to code for real users), using an odd nick name, which is well worth another. That's all the story behind this. Hope I have clarified this a bit. Best Regards, On Fri, Aug 3, 2018 at 4:14 AM, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode wrote: > Aloha "Zryip" > > At $45.00 (cheap) and with your own endorsement (knowing that it is > maintained) > > I'll get it! > > Brahmanathaswami > > Ps do you have a real name? > > On 8/2/18, 12:01 PM, "use-livecode on behalf of zryip theSlug via > use-livecode" use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > Dear Swami, > > We have some free material about datagrids form or table. > > 1. A tutorial written long time ago before I created DGH, exploring the > very basic concepts of the datagrid control (form and table): > http://www.aslugontheroad.com/download/category/3-tutorials > > 2. Some demo stacks created for demonstrating datagrid's possibilities > such > as drag and drop, calculation, etc > http://www.aslugontheroad.com/download/category/4-lab > > 3. About your screenshot, a datagrid form will be your better option > in my > opinion. > > 4. And about Data Grid Helper, I can not answer objectively to your > question, for sure. All I can say is the tool has regular updates for > supporting the new versions of LiveCode. A new major (nothing to do > with > our friend Klaus :) (I prefer to specify because he made me the joke > on the > livecode forum, haha :) )) 2.5 version has been released in June > supporting > dg2 properties, widgets, custom headers, etc. A blog article has been > published about it, with some available screenshots of the new > features: > https://livecode.com/data-grid-helper-2-5-adds-support-for-datagrid-2/ > > Now, if someone in the List want to add a comment about DGH, positive > or > not, he / she is welcome. :) > > > Best Regards, > > > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > -- Zryip TheSlug http://www.aslugontheroad.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Getting Started with DataGrid and another datagrid form question
I concur with Brahmanathaswami that, in particular, datagrid forms (I haven't worked with tables (yet)) are very finicky with regard to scrolling. I still would greatly appreciate some help with a recently submitted message to this group, Subject: datagrid form question Once you play around with a grid enough, it becomes clearer on what you can and cannot do. Regarding DGH v2... during my initial foray into datagrid forms (very recent, by the way), I was hoping that DGH v2 would be the panacea for the initial confusion regarding datagrids. Alas, it is likely a fine tool but, from my perspective (as many aspects of LC), it may be most effective once one has mastered the fundamentals of datagrid construction and usage. I downloaded the trial version and will go back to it ASAP now that I am over that initial learning hump ... with A LOT more to learn, I'm sure. It would probably be worthwhile to read through my two posts under " datagrid form question " to consider what I discovered with regard to scrolling... hopefully, I've made the explanation clear enough but if not, I'd be glad to expand on the subject. Thanks in advance. Doug > At $45.00 (cheap) and with your own endorsement (knowing that it is > maintained) > > I'll get it! > > Brahmanathaswami > > Ps do you have a real name? > > ?On 8/2/18, 12:01 PM, "use-livecode on behalf of zryip theSlug via > use-livecode" boun...@lists.runrev.com on behalf of use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > Dear Swami, > > We have some free material about datagrids form or table. > > 1. A tutorial written long time ago before I created DGH, exploring the > very basic concepts of the datagrid control (form and table): > http://www.aslugontheroad.com/download/category/3-tutorials > > 2. Some demo stacks created for demonstrating datagrid's possibilities >such > as drag and drop, calculation, etc > http://www.aslugontheroad.com/download/category/4-lab > > 3. About your screenshot, a datagrid form will be your better option in my > opinion. > > 4. And about Data Grid Helper, I can not answer objectively to your > question, for sure. All I can say is the tool has regular updates for > supporting the new versions of LiveCode. A new major (nothing to do with > our friend Klaus :) (I prefer to specify because he made me the joke on >the > livecode forum, haha :) )) 2.5 version has been released in June >supporting > dg2 properties, widgets, custom headers, etc. A blog article has been > published about it, with some available screenshots of the new features: > https://livecode.com/data-grid-helper-2-5-adds-support-for-datagrid-2/ > > Now, if someone in the List want to add a comment about DGH, positive or > not, he / she is welcome. :) > > > Best Regards, > Douglas Ruisaard Trilogy Software (250) 573-3935 ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Getting Started with DataGrid
In that case, call me Obi Wan. Not after the Star Wars Jedi of fame, but after the name of the restaurant Indiana Jones flees from in Temple of Doom. Bob S > On Aug 2, 2018, at 22:07 , Stephen Barncard via use-livecode > wrote: > > Names are merely abstractions. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Getting Started with DataGrid
Names are merely abstractions. On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 19:15 Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Aloha "Zryip" > > At $45.00 (cheap) and with your own endorsement (knowing that it is > maintained) > > I'll get it! > > Brahmanathaswami > > Ps do you have a real name? > > On 8/2/18, 12:01 PM, "use-livecode on behalf of zryip theSlug via > use-livecode" use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > Dear Swami, > > We have some free material about datagrids form or table. > > 1. A tutorial written long time ago before I created DGH, exploring the > very basic concepts of the datagrid control (form and table): > http://www.aslugontheroad.com/download/category/3-tutorials > > 2. Some demo stacks created for demonstrating datagrid's possibilities > such > as drag and drop, calculation, etc > http://www.aslugontheroad.com/download/category/4-lab > > 3. About your screenshot, a datagrid form will be your better option > in my > opinion. > > 4. And about Data Grid Helper, I can not answer objectively to your > question, for sure. All I can say is the tool has regular updates for > supporting the new versions of LiveCode. A new major (nothing to do > with > our friend Klaus :) (I prefer to specify because he made me the joke > on the > livecode forum, haha :) )) 2.5 version has been released in June > supporting > dg2 properties, widgets, custom headers, etc. A blog article has been > published about it, with some available screenshots of the new > features: > https://livecode.com/data-grid-helper-2-5-adds-support-for-datagrid-2/ > > Now, if someone in the List want to add a comment about DGH, positive > or > not, he / she is welcome. :) > > > Best Regards, > > > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- -- Stephen Barncard - Sebastopol Ca. USA - mixstream.org ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Getting Started with DataGrid
Aloha "Zryip" At $45.00 (cheap) and with your own endorsement (knowing that it is maintained) I'll get it! Brahmanathaswami Ps do you have a real name? On 8/2/18, 12:01 PM, "use-livecode on behalf of zryip theSlug via use-livecode" wrote: Dear Swami, We have some free material about datagrids form or table. 1. A tutorial written long time ago before I created DGH, exploring the very basic concepts of the datagrid control (form and table): http://www.aslugontheroad.com/download/category/3-tutorials 2. Some demo stacks created for demonstrating datagrid's possibilities such as drag and drop, calculation, etc http://www.aslugontheroad.com/download/category/4-lab 3. About your screenshot, a datagrid form will be your better option in my opinion. 4. And about Data Grid Helper, I can not answer objectively to your question, for sure. All I can say is the tool has regular updates for supporting the new versions of LiveCode. A new major (nothing to do with our friend Klaus :) (I prefer to specify because he made me the joke on the livecode forum, haha :) )) 2.5 version has been released in June supporting dg2 properties, widgets, custom headers, etc. A blog article has been published about it, with some available screenshots of the new features: https://livecode.com/data-grid-helper-2-5-adds-support-for-datagrid-2/ Now, if someone in the List want to add a comment about DGH, positive or not, he / she is welcome. :) Best Regards, ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Getting Started with DataGrid
Dear Swami, We have some free material about datagrids form or table. 1. A tutorial written long time ago before I created DGH, exploring the very basic concepts of the datagrid control (form and table): http://www.aslugontheroad.com/download/category/3-tutorials 2. Some demo stacks created for demonstrating datagrid's possibilities such as drag and drop, calculation, etc http://www.aslugontheroad.com/download/category/4-lab 3. About your screenshot, a datagrid form will be your better option in my opinion. 4. And about Data Grid Helper, I can not answer objectively to your question, for sure. All I can say is the tool has regular updates for supporting the new versions of LiveCode. A new major (nothing to do with our friend Klaus :) (I prefer to specify because he made me the joke on the livecode forum, haha :) )) 2.5 version has been released in June supporting dg2 properties, widgets, custom headers, etc. A blog article has been published about it, with some available screenshots of the new features: https://livecode.com/data-grid-helper-2-5-adds-support-for-datagrid-2/ Now, if someone in the List want to add a comment about DGH, positive or not, he / she is welcome. :) Best Regards, On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 9:29 PM, Klaus major-k via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Hi Swami, > > > Am 02.08.2018 um 21:24 schrieb Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via > use-livecode : > > > > I loaded DataGrid in stack > > > > Now I wonder if is tool of choice for > > http://wiki.hindu.org/screenshots/data-grid-candidate.png > > There needs to alternate rows, with the "alt" row as blank and showing > the card .?? before I go down the path: > > > > Yes or No -- can data grid to this? > > YES! :-) > > > Brahmanathaswami > > Best > > Klaus > > -- > Klaus Major > http://www.major-k.de > kl...@major-k.de > > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > -- Zryip TheSlug http://www.aslugontheroad.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Getting Started with DataGrid
Hi Swami, > Am 02.08.2018 um 21:24 schrieb Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode > : > > I loaded DataGrid in stack > > Now I wonder if is tool of choice for > http://wiki.hindu.org/screenshots/data-grid-candidate.png > There needs to alternate rows, with the "alt" row as blank and showing the > card .?? before I go down the path: > > Yes or No -- can data grid to this? YES! :-) > Brahmanathaswami Best Klaus -- Klaus Major http://www.major-k.de kl...@major-k.de ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Getting Started with DataGrid
I loaded DataGrid in stack Now I wonder if is tool of choice for http://wiki.hindu.org/screenshots/data-grid-candidate.png There needs to alternate rows, with the "alt" row as blank and showing the card .?? before I go down the path: Yes or No -- can data grid to this? Brahmanathaswami ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Getting Started with DataGrid
Thank Bob for the tips... Actually this is for a YouTube index, and all the "rows" would behave the same way. The only thing changing on each row would be 1. https://i.ytimg/#/hddefault.jbg (the thumbnail) 2. Metadata for our date base (SQlite on the mobile app) Title, description. Etc. appear in a field. 3. Click on a row and drives the user to a Browser by setting the YouTube as the HTML source. I am starting here: https://livecode.com/docs/9-0-0/components/livecode-data-grid/ of a course a test stack.. What do you all think of "A Slug on the Road" Data Grid Helper? Brahmanathaswami On 8/2/18, 4:59 AM, "use-livecode on behalf of Bob Sneidar via use-livecode" wrote: I can give you a "not to do". DO NOT send selectionChanged to a datagrid in the middle of processing a selectionChanged message already. This will crash LC to desktop. I have not used form style datagrids, which is what you are talking about methinks, but the idea is fairly simple. Instead of every row behaving exactly the same way, form datagrids allow each row to behave independently, as though they were individual "forms" stacked in a column. You change the look of the rows in the row behavior script, and alter the overall look of the rows by modifying the rowTemplate. In the datagrid properties window data grid tab, change the style of the datagrid to "Form" and the options for editing these become available. The Row template is just a group so you can modify it like any other group. If you edit the script, you can see that there are already handlers defined, like fillInData, layoutControl etc. And since V9 other messages that can be used are in the left pane of the script editor to give you some idea on what you can do. I would say open a new stack, drag a datagrid to it, change the type to Form and dig in. You cannot damage your existing project that way. Bob S ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Getting Started with DataGrid
I can give you a "not to do". DO NOT send selectionChanged to a datagrid in the middle of processing a selectionChanged message already. This will crash LC to desktop. I have not used form style datagrids, which is what you are talking about methinks, but the idea is fairly simple. Instead of every row behaving exactly the same way, form datagrids allow each row to behave independently, as though they were individual "forms" stacked in a column. You change the look of the rows in the row behavior script, and alter the overall look of the rows by modifying the rowTemplate. In the datagrid properties window data grid tab, change the style of the datagrid to "Form" and the options for editing these become available. The Row template is just a group so you can modify it like any other group. If you edit the script, you can see that there are already handlers defined, like fillInData, layoutControl etc. And since V9 other messages that can be used are in the left pane of the script editor to give you some idea on what you can do. I would say open a new stack, drag a datagrid to it, change the type to Form and dig in. You cannot damage your existing project that way. Bob S > On Aug 2, 2018, at 07:06 , Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode > wrote: > > I have stayed away from the Data Grid because of scrolling issues and the > complexity issues were too much for my "baby talk xTalk brain" … but my UX > designer has implement a module that has index of row that include various > little icon and controls that will be hard to do in the old "all control > separate in a single group" that I have been using. And the indexes are > small. So, time for DataGrid2 (has that been implemented or still pending? I > have not kept up with DG dev) . > > I am willing to pay for the third party tools, if they are considered really > helpful, and it they are maintained and up to date and have > "recommendations" from the community. Any thoughts on get starting, caveats? > Particularly what *not* to do… > > Meanwhile, we are off to the on-line academy to check out the lessons…. > > BR ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Getting Started with DataGrid
I have stayed away from the Data Grid because of scrolling issues and the complexity issues were too much for my "baby talk xTalk brain" … but my UX designer has implement a module that has index of row that include various little icon and controls that will be hard to do in the old "all control separate in a single group" that I have been using. And the indexes are small. So, time for DataGrid2 (has that been implemented or still pending? I have not kept up with DG dev) . I am willing to pay for the third party tools, if they are considered really helpful, and it they are maintained and up to date and have "recommendations" from the community. Any thoughts on get starting, caveats? Particularly what *not* to do… Meanwhile, we are off to the on-line academy to check out the lessons…. BR ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
