Re: I Hate the New Color Picker
By that reasoning, Livecode should recreate all the API’s Apple provides, rolling their own. And then we will get to gripe when they don’t work anymore after updating our OS. C’mon guys. For better or worse, ALL OS developers have to continue to innovate. If Apple’s OS troubles you, you can always use Win 8.x where you have to relearn where everything is, or Linux and then deal with piecing together all the components necessary for your app to work on every workstation that uses it. sigh Bob S On Dec 7, 2014, at 03:09 , Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.com wrote: On 07/12/14 12:44, Graham Samuel wrote: How much functionality do you want in a color picker? If you just want to allow a user to pick from a fixed set of colours, it’s easy to grow your own - cross-platform too. But of course that’s just a small subset of an OS’s picker. Graham What I do not understand is why RunRev decided that Livecode should leverage an operating system's built-in colour picker rather than Livecode have its own colour picker as Metacard did. Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: I Hate the New Color Picker
Bob Sneidar wrote: By that reasoning, Livecode should recreate all the API’s Apple provides, rolling their own. In a sense, that's what LiveCode opens up for us with Open Language, a chance to use OS APIs directly. And smartly, if we choose to use APIs Apple later deprecates, it's up to us rather than RunRev to update our scripts to conform with Apple's policy-du-jour. For better or worse, ALL OS developers have to continue to innovate. If Apple’s OS troubles you, you can always use Win 8.x where you have to relearn where everything is, or Linux and then deal with piecing together all the components necessary for your app to work on every workstation that uses it. sigh Piece together? You should stop using Arch and switch to Ubuntu, Mint, or Fedora. :) (that's probably only funny to Mark Wieder) -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web ambassa...@fourthworld.comhttp://www.FourthWorld.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: I Hate the New Color Picker
On 10/12/14 19:17, Bob Sneidar wrote: By that reasoning, Livecode should recreate all the API’s Apple provides, rolling their own. And then we will get to gripe when they don’t work anymore after updating our OS. C’mon guys. For better or worse, ALL OS developers have to continue to innovate. If Apple’s OS troubles you, you can always use Win 8.x where you have to relearn where everything is, or Linux and then deal with piecing together all the components necessary for your app to work on every workstation that uses it. sigh Bob S Perhaps . . . Livecode (or its community, or its community [whatever]) should recreate all APIs (what are you doing shoving an apostrophes in there?) that differ cross-platform to that the programmer has a uniform experience when working . . . I've just knocked something together: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ja47l87gg87sn0q/AAAIj99kEQVOb8ev3jz8C5ORa?dl=0 It didn't stretch my brain overly much . . . Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: I Hate the New Color Picker
On 10/12/14 20:07, Richard Gaskin wrote: Bob Sneidar wrote: By that reasoning, Livecode should recreate all the API’s Apple provides, rolling their own. In a sense, that's what LiveCode opens up for us with Open Language, a chance to use OS APIs directly. And smartly, if we choose to use APIs Apple later deprecates, it's up to us rather than RunRev to update our scripts to conform with Apple's policy-du-jour. This is why it might not be a bad thing if Livecode can roll its own wherever possible so that Apple's, Microsoft's or Slugworth's policy-du-moment doesn't f**k up our work. For better or worse, ALL OS developers have to continue to innovate. If Apple’s OS troubles you, you can always use Win 8.x where you have to relearn where everything is, or Linux and then deal with piecing together all the components necessary for your app to work on every workstation that uses it. sigh Piece together? You should stop using Arch and switch to Ubuntu, Mint, or Fedora. :) (that's probably only funny to Mark Wieder) Bl**dy hilarious to the other Linux user out here . . . Aksherly . . . if one believes the murmurs on the Linux grapevine Arch is the coming-man while Ubuntu might be best described as the coming-man already gone as there is a slight feeling that Slugworth and Co. have got a bit too arrogant and stopped listening to their installed base. I am currently doing reasonably well with Ubuntu Studio 14.10 as it uses XFCE without all sorts of funninesses that seem to crop up with Xubuntu, and don't have the faux Windows 8 kiddy-kit of Ubuntu [or is it Windows 8 that has the faux Ubuntu kiddy-kit?]. Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: I Hate the New Color Picker
Richmond wrote: On 10/12/14 20:07, Richard Gaskin wrote: And smartly, if we choose to use APIs Apple later deprecates, it's up to us rather than RunRev to update our scripts to conform with Apple's policy-du-jour. This is why it might not be a bad thing if Livecode can roll its own wherever possible so that Apple's, Microsoft's or Slugworth's policy-du-moment doesn't f**k up our work. What we have now is sort of a best-of-both-worlds: Where consistency with the rest of the OS is important, we have hooks in the engine to the OS-supplied color-picker. And where we have liberty to take liberties from the consistency, as you've shown we can make a custom color picker just about any way we want. Piece together? You should stop using Arch and switch to Ubuntu, Mint, or Fedora. :) (that's probably only funny to Mark Wieder) Bl**dy hilarious to the other Linux user out here . . . Glad someone enjoyed that. :) Aksherly . . . if one believes the murmurs on the Linux grapevine Arch is the coming-man while Ubuntu might be best described as the coming-man already gone as there is a slight feeling that Slugworth and Co. have got a bit too arrogant and stopped listening to their installed base. Having participated in some long discussions on the Ubuntu Community List recently, it seems the scope of discontent is varying in both content and, dare I say it, merit. Canonical have made their own goals and priorities transparently clear. They're working on a truly Third Platform family of systems, so things like Unity and Mir are solutions relevant to that goal which simply aren't being addressed by projects with different goals. But the beauty of Linux, and open source in general, is that everyone can have exactly what they want. There's nothing requiring anyone to work on any project that doesn't reflect their own personal preferences. It's Linux - there are hundreds of distros, dozens of desktop environments, all of which can be mixed and matched in all sorts of ways if any single one of them isn't reflective of whatever specific things one might want. With so many free software projects out there, it should be easy for everyone to have exactly what they want: If CLAs are a problem just move upstream and contribute to Debian. If Unity makes your skin crawl (though I rather like it) the folks at Gnome could use a hand and are doing some excellent work, as are the KDE folks. If Upstart seems too limited then work on init.d (though to their credit Canonical ditched their investment in Upstart during the voting process that favored init.d, even as they get no credit for being team players and as init.d faces legitimate criticism of scope overreach). To be frank, more than a few of the blog posts I've read are from people who seem to believe that open source means telling other developers what to work on, rather than just choosing to work on something themselves that reflects their personal interests and goals. I've argued with Mr. Shuttleworth myself on a blog comment space or two. I don't always agree with him, but I do agree with the larger goals of the project, and find Canonical very supportive of contributions that offer actionable design alternatives. I am currently doing reasonably well with Ubuntu Studio 14.10 as it uses XFCE without all sorts of funninesses that seem to crop up with Xubuntu, and don't have the faux Windows 8 kiddy-kit of Ubuntu [or is it Windows 8 that has the faux Ubuntu kiddy-kit?]. There must be a humor there more obscure than my own. I use and like both Win 8 and Ubuntu, but see very little similarity between them beyond perhaps both having overlapping windows and a pointer. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web ambassa...@fourthworld.comhttp://www.FourthWorld.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: I Hate the New Color Picker
I’m only going off of posts made by Richmond over the years. (That’s probably only funny to Richmond). ;-) Bob S On Dec 10, 2014, at 10:07 , Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.commailto:ambassa...@fourthworld.com wrote: For better or worse, ALL OS developers have to continue to innovate. If Apple’s OS troubles you, you can always use Win 8.x where you have to relearn where everything is, or Linux and then deal with piecing together all the components necessary for your app to work on every workstation that uses it. sigh Piece together? You should stop using Arch and switch to Ubuntu, Mint, or Fedora. :) (that's probably only funny to Mark Wieder) -- Richard Gaskin ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: I Hate the New Color Picker
Hi, Can someone post a screenshot because I don't see a small dot on the Yosemite color picker. I am also stuck with one row of colors. Greetings, William 2014-12-08 8:17 GMT+01:00 Howard Bornstein bornst...@designeq.com: I wouldn't have seen it myself if I hadn't used my large Holmesian magnifying glass.;-) On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 4:27 PM, Roger Guay i...@mac.com wrote: Thank you Howard! There’s a tiny dot there that I had not noticed. You don’t know how many times I tried to pull down from every point other than that tiny dot to no avail. What a twit I am!! On Dec 7, 2014, at 3:16 PM, Howard Bornstein bornst...@designeq.com wrote: Just pull down from the bottom of the color picker patches and you'll get 10 rows, just like earlier versions. On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 3:01 PM, Roger Guay i...@mac.com wrote: Just the flatness of it, but more importantly, the limit of just one row of color patches. I was used to using multiple rows to record and manage multiple projects. I realize now that It’s no biggie, and I overreacted! I’ll build a better tool for what I need and offer to all to make up for petulance. Roger On Dec 7, 2014, at 10:59 AM, Geoff Canyon gcan...@gmail.com wrote: How does the color picker look different to you? I'm on Yosemite and it looks the same as I remember: color picker choices across the top: color wheel (default), color sliders, etc.; then the color wheel itself below that; then the saturation slider below that; then the actual color selected and the saved colors below that; and finally the cancel and okay buttons below that. On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 10:21 PM, Roger Guay i...@mac.com wrote: I’m sure the new color picker is totally Apple’s (Yosemite) fault, but I hate it? It’s ugly and not as functional as the old one. Is there anything I can do about it, like go back to the old one? TIA, Roger ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Regards, Howard Bornstein --- www.designeq.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Regards, Howard Bornstein --- www.designeq.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: I Hate the New Color Picker
Poke around just between and above the Cancel and OK btns and you’ll find the sweet spot where the cursor turns to a hand. Roger On Dec 8, 2014, at 9:28 AM, William de Smet williamdes...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Can someone post a screenshot because I don't see a small dot on the Yosemite color picker. I am also stuck with one row of colors. Greetings, William 2014-12-08 8:17 GMT+01:00 Howard Bornstein bornst...@designeq.com: I wouldn't have seen it myself if I hadn't used my large Holmesian magnifying glass.;-) On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 4:27 PM, Roger Guay i...@mac.com wrote: Thank you Howard! There’s a tiny dot there that I had not noticed. You don’t know how many times I tried to pull down from every point other than that tiny dot to no avail. What a twit I am!! On Dec 7, 2014, at 3:16 PM, Howard Bornstein bornst...@designeq.com wrote: Just pull down from the bottom of the color picker patches and you'll get 10 rows, just like earlier versions. On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 3:01 PM, Roger Guay i...@mac.com wrote: Just the flatness of it, but more importantly, the limit of just one row of color patches. I was used to using multiple rows to record and manage multiple projects. I realize now that It’s no biggie, and I overreacted! I’ll build a better tool for what I need and offer to all to make up for petulance. Roger On Dec 7, 2014, at 10:59 AM, Geoff Canyon gcan...@gmail.com wrote: How does the color picker look different to you? I'm on Yosemite and it looks the same as I remember: color picker choices across the top: color wheel (default), color sliders, etc.; then the color wheel itself below that; then the saturation slider below that; then the actual color selected and the saved colors below that; and finally the cancel and okay buttons below that. On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 10:21 PM, Roger Guay i...@mac.com wrote: I’m sure the new color picker is totally Apple’s (Yosemite) fault, but I hate it? It’s ugly and not as functional as the old one. Is there anything I can do about it, like go back to the old one? TIA, Roger ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Regards, Howard Bornstein --- www.designeq.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Regards, Howard Bornstein --- www.designeq.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: I Hate the New Color Picker
William, I'm with you: no small dot, no resizing -- vertically, at least -- I can make the color picker wider up to a point. Here's a link to a screen shot: https://www.dropbox.com/s/ahzx78f6kzudgcl/Screenshot%202014-12-08%2013.56.46.png?dl=0 On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 1:20 PM, Roger Guay i...@mac.com wrote: Poke around just between and above the Cancel and OK btns and you’ll find the sweet spot where the cursor turns to a hand. Roger On Dec 8, 2014, at 9:28 AM, William de Smet williamdes...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Can someone post a screenshot because I don't see a small dot on the Yosemite color picker. I am also stuck with one row of colors. Greetings, William 2014-12-08 8:17 GMT+01:00 Howard Bornstein bornst...@designeq.com: I wouldn't have seen it myself if I hadn't used my large Holmesian magnifying glass.;-) On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 4:27 PM, Roger Guay i...@mac.com wrote: Thank you Howard! There’s a tiny dot there that I had not noticed. You don’t know how many times I tried to pull down from every point other than that tiny dot to no avail. What a twit I am!! On Dec 7, 2014, at 3:16 PM, Howard Bornstein bornst...@designeq.com wrote: Just pull down from the bottom of the color picker patches and you'll get 10 rows, just like earlier versions. On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 3:01 PM, Roger Guay i...@mac.com wrote: Just the flatness of it, but more importantly, the limit of just one row of color patches. I was used to using multiple rows to record and manage multiple projects. I realize now that It’s no biggie, and I overreacted! I’ll build a better tool for what I need and offer to all to make up for petulance. Roger On Dec 7, 2014, at 10:59 AM, Geoff Canyon gcan...@gmail.com wrote: How does the color picker look different to you? I'm on Yosemite and it looks the same as I remember: color picker choices across the top: color wheel (default), color sliders, etc.; then the color wheel itself below that; then the saturation slider below that; then the actual color selected and the saved colors below that; and finally the cancel and okay buttons below that. On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 10:21 PM, Roger Guay i...@mac.com wrote: I’m sure the new color picker is totally Apple’s (Yosemite) fault, but I hate it? It’s ugly and not as functional as the old one. Is there anything I can do about it, like go back to the old one? TIA, Roger ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Regards, Howard Bornstein --- www.designeq.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Regards, Howard Bornstein --- www.designeq.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences:
Re: I Hate the New Color Picker
Hi Geoff, This is my ColorPicker. I only have one visible line. I am on Yosemite 10.10.1 with LC 6.6.5 on a 21,5 inch iMac. https://www.dropbox.com/s/pkqwsgvu6i5q7tz/ColorPickerYosemite.png?dl=0 greetings, William 2014-12-08 19:57 GMT+01:00 Geoff Canyon gcan...@gmail.com: William, I'm with you: no small dot, no resizing -- vertically, at least -- I can make the color picker wider up to a point. Here's a link to a screen shot: https://www.dropbox.com/s/ahzx78f6kzudgcl/Screenshot%202014-12-08%2013.56.46.png?dl=0 On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 1:20 PM, Roger Guay i...@mac.com wrote: Poke around just between and above the Cancel and OK btns and you’ll find the sweet spot where the cursor turns to a hand. Roger On Dec 8, 2014, at 9:28 AM, William de Smet williamdes...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Can someone post a screenshot because I don't see a small dot on the Yosemite color picker. I am also stuck with one row of colors. Greetings, William 2014-12-08 8:17 GMT+01:00 Howard Bornstein bornst...@designeq.com: I wouldn't have seen it myself if I hadn't used my large Holmesian magnifying glass.;-) On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 4:27 PM, Roger Guay i...@mac.com wrote: Thank you Howard! There’s a tiny dot there that I had not noticed. You don’t know how many times I tried to pull down from every point other than that tiny dot to no avail. What a twit I am!! On Dec 7, 2014, at 3:16 PM, Howard Bornstein bornst...@designeq.com wrote: Just pull down from the bottom of the color picker patches and you'll get 10 rows, just like earlier versions. On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 3:01 PM, Roger Guay i...@mac.com wrote: Just the flatness of it, but more importantly, the limit of just one row of color patches. I was used to using multiple rows to record and manage multiple projects. I realize now that It’s no biggie, and I overreacted! I’ll build a better tool for what I need and offer to all to make up for petulance. Roger On Dec 7, 2014, at 10:59 AM, Geoff Canyon gcan...@gmail.com wrote: How does the color picker look different to you? I'm on Yosemite and it looks the same as I remember: color picker choices across the top: color wheel (default), color sliders, etc.; then the color wheel itself below that; then the saturation slider below that; then the actual color selected and the saved colors below that; and finally the cancel and okay buttons below that. On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 10:21 PM, Roger Guay i...@mac.com wrote: I’m sure the new color picker is totally Apple’s (Yosemite) fault, but I hate it? It’s ugly and not as functional as the old one. Is there anything I can do about it, like go back to the old one? TIA, Roger ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Regards, Howard Bornstein --- www.designeq.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Regards, Howard Bornstein --- www.designeq.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: I Hate the New Color Picker
Here’s my screen grab clearly showing the dot. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/98788898/LiveCode/Screen%20Shot%202014-12-08%20at%2019.45.37.png https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/98788898/LiveCode/Screen%20Shot%202014-12-08%20at%2019.45.37.png All the best Terry On 8 Dec 2014, at 18:57, Geoff Canyon gcan...@gmail.com wrote: William, I'm with you: no small dot, no resizing -- vertically, at least -- I can make the color picker wider up to a point. Here's a link to a screen shot: ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: I Hate the New Color Picker
Well, this is strange. I was checking out the color picker in Yosemite using TextEdit, which incidentally, doesn't have those Cancel and OK buttons, but has the dot to pull down the color dock. When I call up the color picker in LC, I get the same view as Geoff, with two lines of palette docks and no dot to extend the dock section. Unlike Roger, I couldn't find the sweet spot to make this work. Apparently, LC has modified the system color wheel to a certain extent. On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 11:21 AM, William de Smet williamdes...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Geoff, This is my ColorPicker. I only have one visible line. I am on Yosemite 10.10.1 with LC 6.6.5 on a 21,5 inch iMac. https://www.dropbox.com/s/pkqwsgvu6i5q7tz/ColorPickerYosemite.png?dl=0 greetings, William 2014-12-08 19:57 GMT+01:00 Geoff Canyon gcan...@gmail.com: William, I'm with you: no small dot, no resizing -- vertically, at least -- I can make the color picker wider up to a point. Here's a link to a screen shot: https://www.dropbox.com/s/ahzx78f6kzudgcl/Screenshot%202014-12-08%2013.56.46.png?dl=0 On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 1:20 PM, Roger Guay i...@mac.com wrote: Poke around just between and above the Cancel and OK btns and you’ll find the sweet spot where the cursor turns to a hand. Roger On Dec 8, 2014, at 9:28 AM, William de Smet williamdes...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Can someone post a screenshot because I don't see a small dot on the Yosemite color picker. I am also stuck with one row of colors. Greetings, William 2014-12-08 8:17 GMT+01:00 Howard Bornstein bornst...@designeq.com: I wouldn't have seen it myself if I hadn't used my large Holmesian magnifying glass.;-) On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 4:27 PM, Roger Guay i...@mac.com wrote: Thank you Howard! There’s a tiny dot there that I had not noticed. You don’t know how many times I tried to pull down from every point other than that tiny dot to no avail. What a twit I am!! On Dec 7, 2014, at 3:16 PM, Howard Bornstein bornst...@designeq.com wrote: Just pull down from the bottom of the color picker patches and you'll get 10 rows, just like earlier versions. On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 3:01 PM, Roger Guay i...@mac.com wrote: Just the flatness of it, but more importantly, the limit of just one row of color patches. I was used to using multiple rows to record and manage multiple projects. I realize now that It’s no biggie, and I overreacted! I’ll build a better tool for what I need and offer to all to make up for petulance. Roger On Dec 7, 2014, at 10:59 AM, Geoff Canyon gcan...@gmail.com wrote: How does the color picker look different to you? I'm on Yosemite and it looks the same as I remember: color picker choices across the top: color wheel (default), color sliders, etc.; then the color wheel itself below that; then the saturation slider below that; then the actual color selected and the saved colors below that; and finally the cancel and okay buttons below that. On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 10:21 PM, Roger Guay i...@mac.com wrote: I’m sure the new color picker is totally Apple’s (Yosemite) fault, but I hate it? It’s ugly and not as functional as the old one. Is there anything I can do about it, like go back to the old one? TIA, Roger ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Regards, Howard Bornstein --- www.designeq.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences:
Re: I Hate the New Color Picker
BTW, I'm on Yosemite 10.10 and LC 6.6.2. Maybe this is a function of version idiosyncrasies. On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 11:49 AM, Terence Heaford t.heaf...@btinternet.com wrote: Here’s my screen grab clearly showing the dot. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/98788898/LiveCode/Screen%20Shot%202014-12-08%20at%2019.45.37.png https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/98788898/LiveCode/Screen%20Shot%202014-12-08%20at%2019.45.37.png All the best Terry On 8 Dec 2014, at 18:57, Geoff Canyon gcan...@gmail.com wrote: William, I'm with you: no small dot, no resizing -- vertically, at least -- I can make the color picker wider up to a point. Here's a link to a screen shot: ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Regards, Howard Bornstein --- www.designeq.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: I Hate the New Color Picker
Should have said my screen shot showing the dot is LC community 6.7.1 (RC3) running on iMac 21.5 Yosemite 10.10.1 The dot show on TextEdit, Numbers, Pages. All the best Terry On 8 Dec 2014, at 19:49, Howard Bornstein bornst...@designeq.com wrote: Well, this is strange. I was checking out the color picker in Yosemite using TextEdit, which incidentally, doesn't have those Cancel and OK buttons, but has the dot to pull down the color dock. When I call up the color picker in LC, I get the same view as Geoff, with two lines of palette docks and no dot to extend the dock section. Unlike Roger, I couldn't find the sweet spot to make this work. Apparently, LC has modified the system color wheel to a certain extent. On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 11:21 AM, William de Smet williamdes...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Geoff, This is my ColorPicker. I only have one visible line. I am on Yosemite 10.10.1 with LC 6.6.5 on a 21,5 inch iMac. https://www.dropbox.com/s/pkqwsgvu6i5q7tz/ColorPickerYosemite.png?dl=0 greetings, William 2014-12-08 19:57 GMT+01:00 Geoff Canyon gcan...@gmail.com: William, I'm with you: no small dot, no resizing -- vertically, at least -- I can make the color picker wider up to a point. Here's a link to a screen shot: https://www.dropbox.com/s/ahzx78f6kzudgcl/Screenshot%202014-12-08%2013.56.46.png?dl=0 On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 1:20 PM, Roger Guay i...@mac.com wrote: Poke around just between and above the Cancel and OK btns and you’ll find the sweet spot where the cursor turns to a hand. Roger On Dec 8, 2014, at 9:28 AM, William de Smet williamdes...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Can someone post a screenshot because I don't see a small dot on the Yosemite color picker. I am also stuck with one row of colors. Greetings, William 2014-12-08 8:17 GMT+01:00 Howard Bornstein bornst...@designeq.com: I wouldn't have seen it myself if I hadn't used my large Holmesian magnifying glass.;-) On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 4:27 PM, Roger Guay i...@mac.com wrote: Thank you Howard! There’s a tiny dot there that I had not noticed. You don’t know how many times I tried to pull down from every point other than that tiny dot to no avail. What a twit I am!! On Dec 7, 2014, at 3:16 PM, Howard Bornstein bornst...@designeq.com wrote: Just pull down from the bottom of the color picker patches and you'll get 10 rows, just like earlier versions. On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 3:01 PM, Roger Guay i...@mac.com wrote: Just the flatness of it, but more importantly, the limit of just one row of color patches. I was used to using multiple rows to record and manage multiple projects. I realize now that It’s no biggie, and I overreacted! I’ll build a better tool for what I need and offer to all to make up for petulance. Roger On Dec 7, 2014, at 10:59 AM, Geoff Canyon gcan...@gmail.com wrote: How does the color picker look different to you? I'm on Yosemite and it looks the same as I remember: color picker choices across the top: color wheel (default), color sliders, etc.; then the color wheel itself below that; then the saturation slider below that; then the actual color selected and the saved colors below that; and finally the cancel and okay buttons below that. On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 10:21 PM, Roger Guay i...@mac.com wrote: I’m sure the new color picker is totally Apple’s (Yosemite) fault, but I hate it? It’s ugly and not as functional as the old one. Is there anything I can do about it, like go back to the old one? TIA, Roger ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Regards, Howard Bornstein --- www.designeq.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Regards,
Re: I Hate the New Color Picker
Aha, the thought plickens! I’m running Yosemite 10.10.1 and find the dot appearing in LC 6.7.1 (rc2) but NOT in LC 6.6.5 nor in 6.7. On Dec 8, 2014, at 11:55 AM, Terence Heaford t.heaf...@btinternet.com wrote: Should have said my screen shot showing the dot is LC community 6.7.1 (RC3) running on iMac 21.5 Yosemite 10.10.1 The dot show on TextEdit, Numbers, Pages. All the best Terry On 8 Dec 2014, at 19:49, Howard Bornstein bornst...@designeq.com wrote: Well, this is strange. I was checking out the color picker in Yosemite using TextEdit, which incidentally, doesn't have those Cancel and OK buttons, but has the dot to pull down the color dock. When I call up the color picker in LC, I get the same view as Geoff, with two lines of palette docks and no dot to extend the dock section. Unlike Roger, I couldn't find the sweet spot to make this work. Apparently, LC has modified the system color wheel to a certain extent. On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 11:21 AM, William de Smet williamdes...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Geoff, This is my ColorPicker. I only have one visible line. I am on Yosemite 10.10.1 with LC 6.6.5 on a 21,5 inch iMac. https://www.dropbox.com/s/pkqwsgvu6i5q7tz/ColorPickerYosemite.png?dl=0 greetings, William 2014-12-08 19:57 GMT+01:00 Geoff Canyon gcan...@gmail.com: William, I'm with you: no small dot, no resizing -- vertically, at least -- I can make the color picker wider up to a point. Here's a link to a screen shot: https://www.dropbox.com/s/ahzx78f6kzudgcl/Screenshot%202014-12-08%2013.56.46.png?dl=0 On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 1:20 PM, Roger Guay i...@mac.com wrote: Poke around just between and above the Cancel and OK btns and you’ll find the sweet spot where the cursor turns to a hand. Roger On Dec 8, 2014, at 9:28 AM, William de Smet williamdes...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Can someone post a screenshot because I don't see a small dot on the Yosemite color picker. I am also stuck with one row of colors. Greetings, William 2014-12-08 8:17 GMT+01:00 Howard Bornstein bornst...@designeq.com: I wouldn't have seen it myself if I hadn't used my large Holmesian magnifying glass.;-) On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 4:27 PM, Roger Guay i...@mac.com wrote: Thank you Howard! There’s a tiny dot there that I had not noticed. You don’t know how many times I tried to pull down from every point other than that tiny dot to no avail. What a twit I am!! On Dec 7, 2014, at 3:16 PM, Howard Bornstein bornst...@designeq.com wrote: Just pull down from the bottom of the color picker patches and you'll get 10 rows, just like earlier versions. On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 3:01 PM, Roger Guay i...@mac.com wrote: Just the flatness of it, but more importantly, the limit of just one row of color patches. I was used to using multiple rows to record and manage multiple projects. I realize now that It’s no biggie, and I overreacted! I’ll build a better tool for what I need and offer to all to make up for petulance. Roger On Dec 7, 2014, at 10:59 AM, Geoff Canyon gcan...@gmail.com wrote: How does the color picker look different to you? I'm on Yosemite and it looks the same as I remember: color picker choices across the top: color wheel (default), color sliders, etc.; then the color wheel itself below that; then the saturation slider below that; then the actual color selected and the saved colors below that; and finally the cancel and okay buttons below that. On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 10:21 PM, Roger Guay i...@mac.com wrote: I’m sure the new color picker is totally Apple’s (Yosemite) fault, but I hate it? It’s ugly and not as functional as the old one. Is there anything I can do about it, like go back to the old one? TIA, Roger ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Regards, Howard Bornstein --- www.designeq.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___
Re: I Hate the New Color Picker
Here's mine in 6.6.2, which is the closest I have to 6.6.5. It has two rows, no matter how I resize it. I wonder if the international aspect is a factor here? https://www.dropbox.com/s/ahqcye1nmp3jn2r/Screenshot%202014-12-08%2017.32.53.png?dl=0 On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 5:18 PM, Roger Guay i...@mac.com wrote: Aha, the thought plickens! I’m running Yosemite 10.10.1 and find the dot appearing in LC 6.7.1 (rc2) but NOT in LC 6.6.5 nor in 6.7. On Dec 8, 2014, at 11:55 AM, Terence Heaford t.heaf...@btinternet.com wrote: Should have said my screen shot showing the dot is LC community 6.7.1 (RC3) running on iMac 21.5 Yosemite 10.10.1 The dot show on TextEdit, Numbers, Pages. All the best Terry On 8 Dec 2014, at 19:49, Howard Bornstein bornst...@designeq.com wrote: Well, this is strange. I was checking out the color picker in Yosemite using TextEdit, which incidentally, doesn't have those Cancel and OK buttons, but has the dot to pull down the color dock. When I call up the color picker in LC, I get the same view as Geoff, with two lines of palette docks and no dot to extend the dock section. Unlike Roger, I couldn't find the sweet spot to make this work. Apparently, LC has modified the system color wheel to a certain extent. On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 11:21 AM, William de Smet williamdes...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Geoff, This is my ColorPicker. I only have one visible line. I am on Yosemite 10.10.1 with LC 6.6.5 on a 21,5 inch iMac. https://www.dropbox.com/s/pkqwsgvu6i5q7tz/ColorPickerYosemite.png?dl=0 greetings, William 2014-12-08 19:57 GMT+01:00 Geoff Canyon gcan...@gmail.com: William, I'm with you: no small dot, no resizing -- vertically, at least -- I can make the color picker wider up to a point. Here's a link to a screen shot: https://www.dropbox.com/s/ahzx78f6kzudgcl/Screenshot%202014-12-08%2013.56.46.png?dl=0 On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 1:20 PM, Roger Guay i...@mac.com wrote: Poke around just between and above the Cancel and OK btns and you’ll find the sweet spot where the cursor turns to a hand. Roger On Dec 8, 2014, at 9:28 AM, William de Smet williamdes...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Can someone post a screenshot because I don't see a small dot on the Yosemite color picker. I am also stuck with one row of colors. Greetings, William 2014-12-08 8:17 GMT+01:00 Howard Bornstein bornst...@designeq.com : I wouldn't have seen it myself if I hadn't used my large Holmesian magnifying glass.;-) On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 4:27 PM, Roger Guay i...@mac.com wrote: Thank you Howard! There’s a tiny dot there that I had not noticed. You don’t know how many times I tried to pull down from every point other than that tiny dot to no avail. What a twit I am!! On Dec 7, 2014, at 3:16 PM, Howard Bornstein bornst...@designeq.com wrote: Just pull down from the bottom of the color picker patches and you'll get 10 rows, just like earlier versions. On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 3:01 PM, Roger Guay i...@mac.com wrote: Just the flatness of it, but more importantly, the limit of just one row of color patches. I was used to using multiple rows to record and manage multiple projects. I realize now that It’s no biggie, and I overreacted! I’ll build a better tool for what I need and offer to all to make up for petulance. Roger On Dec 7, 2014, at 10:59 AM, Geoff Canyon gcan...@gmail.com wrote: How does the color picker look different to you? I'm on Yosemite and it looks the same as I remember: color picker choices across the top: color wheel (default), color sliders, etc.; then the color wheel itself below that; then the saturation slider below that; then the actual color selected and the saved colors below that; and finally the cancel and okay buttons below that. On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 10:21 PM, Roger Guay i...@mac.com wrote: I’m sure the new color picker is totally Apple’s (Yosemite) fault, but I hate it? It’s ugly and not as functional as the old one. Is there anything I can do about it, like go back to the old one? TIA, Roger ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences:
Re: I Hate the New Color Picker
Yup, it’s a Cocoa thing. Not there in 6.6.x on Yosemite. Magically appears when you invoke the color picker in 6.7.x. Devin On Dec 8, 2014, at 3:34 PM, Geoff Canyon gcan...@gmail.com wrote: Here's mine in 6.6.2, which is the closest I have to 6.6.5. It has two rows, no matter how I resize it. I wonder if the international aspect is a factor here? https://www.dropbox.com/s/ahqcye1nmp3jn2r/Screenshot%202014-12-08%2017.32.53.png?dl=0 On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 5:18 PM, Roger Guay i...@mac.com wrote: Aha, the thought plickens! I’m running Yosemite 10.10.1 and find the dot appearing in LC 6.7.1 (rc2) but NOT in LC 6.6.5 nor in 6.7. Devin Asay Learn to code with LiveCode University http://university.livecode.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: I Hate the New Color Picker
Bummer! I find that versions 6.7.x are a problem for me, but I’ve also found that you can use the dot to reveal more swatches of the Color Picker in LC 6.7.1 (rc2), and it will stay “open” for when I go back to my current LC favorite, 6.6.5. Roger On Dec 8, 2014, at 3:20 PM, Devin Asay devin_a...@byu.edu wrote: Yup, it’s a Cocoa thing. Not there in 6.6.x on Yosemite. Magically appears when you invoke the color picker in 6.7.x. Devin On Dec 8, 2014, at 3:34 PM, Geoff Canyon gcan...@gmail.com wrote: Here's mine in 6.6.2, which is the closest I have to 6.6.5. It has two rows, no matter how I resize it. I wonder if the international aspect is a factor here? https://www.dropbox.com/s/ahqcye1nmp3jn2r/Screenshot%202014-12-08%2017.32.53.png?dl=0 On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 5:18 PM, Roger Guay i...@mac.com wrote: Aha, the thought plickens! I’m running Yosemite 10.10.1 and find the dot appearing in LC 6.7.1 (rc2) but NOT in LC 6.6.5 nor in 6.7. Devin Asay Learn to code with LiveCode University http://university.livecode.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: I Hate the New Color Picker
How much functionality do you want in a color picker? If you just want to allow a user to pick from a fixed set of colours, it’s easy to grow your own - cross-platform too. But of course that’s just a small subset of an OS’s picker. Graham On 6 Dec 2014, at 03:21, Roger Guay i...@mac.com wrote: I’m sure the new color picker is totally Apple’s (Yosemite) fault, but I hate it? It’s ugly and not as functional as the old one. Is there anything I can do about it, like go back to the old one? TIA, Roger ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: I Hate the New Color Picker
On 07/12/14 12:44, Graham Samuel wrote: How much functionality do you want in a color picker? If you just want to allow a user to pick from a fixed set of colours, it’s easy to grow your own - cross-platform too. But of course that’s just a small subset of an OS’s picker. Graham What I do not understand is why RunRev decided that Livecode should leverage an operating system's built-in colour picker rather than Livecode have its own colour picker as Metacard did. Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: I Hate the New Color Picker
Just uploaded the color picker from the Mac Classic version of Runtime Revolution 2.0 to https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ja47l87gg87s ... C5ORa?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ja47l87gg87sn0q/AAAIj99kEQVOb8ev3jz8C5ORa?dl=0 RCC.zip As far as I can see it is identical to the one from Metacard 2.5 Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: I Hate the New Color Picker
On 07/12/14 12:44, Graham Samuel wrote: How much functionality do you want in a color picker? If you just want to allow a user to pick from a fixed set of colours, it’s easy to grow your own - cross-platform too. But of course that’s just a small subset of an OS’s picker. The color chooser from RR/LC 2.0 has RGB sliders so one does NOT have to depend on the fixed palette of a limited selection of colours: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ja47l87gg87s ... C5ORa?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ja47l87gg87sn0q/AAAIj99kEQVOb8ev3jz8C5ORa?dl=0 RCC.zip Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: I Hate the New Color Picker
Perhaps so our apps would look native on every platform. The color picker is used for more than just development. On December 7, 2014 5:09:31 AM CST, Richmond wrote What I do not understand is why RunRev decided that Livecode should leverage an operating system's built-in colour picker rather than Livecode have its own colour picker as Metacard did. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: I Hate the New Color Picker
On 07/12/14 18:31, J. Landman Gay wrote: Perhaps so our apps would look native on every platform. The color picker is used for more than just development. BUT, it would have been quite possible to have a development color picker that was uniform across all platforms, and a way of leveraging the operating system's color picker in standalones . . . therefore having the best of both worlds. Richmond. On December 7, 2014 5:09:31 AM CST, Richmond wrote What I do not understand is why RunRev decided that Livecode should leverage an operating system's built-in colour picker rather than Livecode have its own colour picker as Metacard did. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: I Hate the New Color Picker
How does the color picker look different to you? I'm on Yosemite and it looks the same as I remember: color picker choices across the top: color wheel (default), color sliders, etc.; then the color wheel itself below that; then the saturation slider below that; then the actual color selected and the saved colors below that; and finally the cancel and okay buttons below that. On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 10:21 PM, Roger Guay i...@mac.com wrote: I’m sure the new color picker is totally Apple’s (Yosemite) fault, but I hate it? It’s ugly and not as functional as the old one. Is there anything I can do about it, like go back to the old one? TIA, Roger ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: I Hate the New Color Picker
Have a look at this: http://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?f=5t=22288 Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: I Hate the New Color Picker
The only differences I see from the color wheel in Snow Leopard is that the selected color choice is a small square at the bottom in Yosemite with an eye dropper and it's a bar across the top in Snow Leopard with a magnifying glass. The Saturation slider is on the bottom in Yosemite and down the right side in Snow Leopard. The color selector cursor is a circle with cross hairs in Yosemite and a small square in Snow Leopard. That's basically it. On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 10:59 AM, Geoff Canyon gcan...@gmail.com wrote: How does the color picker look different to you? I'm on Yosemite and it looks the same as I remember: color picker choices across the top: color wheel (default), color sliders, etc.; then the color wheel itself below that; then the saturation slider below that; then the actual color selected and the saved colors below that; and finally the cancel and okay buttons below that. On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 10:21 PM, Roger Guay i...@mac.com wrote: I’m sure the new color picker is totally Apple’s (Yosemite) fault, but I hate it? It’s ugly and not as functional as the old one. Is there anything I can do about it, like go back to the old one? TIA, Roger ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Regards, Howard Bornstein --- www.designeq.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: I Hate the New Color Picker
On 12/7/2014, 12:18 PM, Richmond wrote: BUT, it would have been quite possible to have a development color picker that was uniform across all platforms, and a way of leveraging the operating system's color picker in standalones . . . therefore having the best of both worlds. You can do that yourself, of course, by simply adding a plugin. But so far, I have heard from only two people who actually want that option. I'm happier with the system picker myself, since on OS X it allows extensions that provide many more color options. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
I Hate the New Color Picker
Feel free to download THIS: http://forums.livecode.com/download/file.php?id=4597 and you will suddenly love Livecode's built-in color picker. Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: I Hate the New Color Picker
On 08/12/14 00:20, Richmond wrote: Feel free to download THIS: http://forums.livecode.com/download/file.php?id=4597 and you will suddenly love Livecode's built-in color picker. Richmond. That download URL seems problematic. Better go to the message and download from there: http://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?f=5t=22288 ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: I Hate the New Color Picker
You’re right of course, I was just overreacting to the ugliness of it. One thing I do miss is multiple lines of color patches where I kept track of the colors I use for various purposes. I do intend to roll my own to fix that, Roger On Dec 7, 2014, at 2:44 AM, Graham Samuel livf...@mac.com wrote: How much functionality do you want in a color picker? If you just want to allow a user to pick from a fixed set of colours, it’s easy to grow your own - cross-platform too. But of course that’s just a small subset of an OS’s picker. Graham On 6 Dec 2014, at 03:21, Roger Guay i...@mac.com wrote: I’m sure the new color picker is totally Apple’s (Yosemite) fault, but I hate it? It’s ugly and not as functional as the old one. Is there anything I can do about it, like go back to the old one? TIA, Roger ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: I Hate the New Color Picker
Thanks again, Richmond. That will be very helpful when I build my own version. On Dec 7, 2014, at 3:48 AM, Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.com wrote: Just uploaded the color picker from the Mac Classic version of Runtime Revolution 2.0 to https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ja47l87gg87s ... C5ORa?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ja47l87gg87sn0q/AAAIj99kEQVOb8ev3jz8C5ORa?dl=0 RCC.zip As far as I can see it is identical to the one from Metacard 2.5 Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: I Hate the New Color Picker
What I want is a one-stop place where I can record and manage the color palettes of each and every one of my projects. A subset of the OS picker, as you note. I’m working on it. Roger On Dec 7, 2014, at 2:44 AM, Graham Samuel livf...@mac.com wrote: How much functionality do you want in a color picker? If you just want to allow a user to pick from a fixed set of colours, it’s easy to grow your own - cross-platform too. But of course that’s just a small subset of an OS’s picker. Graham On 6 Dec 2014, at 03:21, Roger Guay i...@mac.com wrote: I’m sure the new color picker is totally Apple’s (Yosemite) fault, but I hate it? It’s ugly and not as functional as the old one. Is there anything I can do about it, like go back to the old one? TIA, Roger ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: I Hate the New Color Picker
Just the flatness of it, but more importantly, the limit of just one row of color patches. I was used to using multiple rows to record and manage multiple projects. I realize now that It’s no biggie, and I overreacted! I’ll build a better tool for what I need and offer to all to make up for petulance. Roger On Dec 7, 2014, at 10:59 AM, Geoff Canyon gcan...@gmail.com wrote: How does the color picker look different to you? I'm on Yosemite and it looks the same as I remember: color picker choices across the top: color wheel (default), color sliders, etc.; then the color wheel itself below that; then the saturation slider below that; then the actual color selected and the saved colors below that; and finally the cancel and okay buttons below that. On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 10:21 PM, Roger Guay i...@mac.com wrote: I’m sure the new color picker is totally Apple’s (Yosemite) fault, but I hate it? It’s ugly and not as functional as the old one. Is there anything I can do about it, like go back to the old one? TIA, Roger ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: I Hate the New Color Picker
Just pull down from the bottom of the color picker patches and you'll get 10 rows, just like earlier versions. On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 3:01 PM, Roger Guay i...@mac.com wrote: Just the flatness of it, but more importantly, the limit of just one row of color patches. I was used to using multiple rows to record and manage multiple projects. I realize now that It’s no biggie, and I overreacted! I’ll build a better tool for what I need and offer to all to make up for petulance. Roger On Dec 7, 2014, at 10:59 AM, Geoff Canyon gcan...@gmail.com wrote: How does the color picker look different to you? I'm on Yosemite and it looks the same as I remember: color picker choices across the top: color wheel (default), color sliders, etc.; then the color wheel itself below that; then the saturation slider below that; then the actual color selected and the saved colors below that; and finally the cancel and okay buttons below that. On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 10:21 PM, Roger Guay i...@mac.com wrote: I’m sure the new color picker is totally Apple’s (Yosemite) fault, but I hate it? It’s ugly and not as functional as the old one. Is there anything I can do about it, like go back to the old one? TIA, Roger ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Regards, Howard Bornstein --- www.designeq.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: I Hate the New Color Picker
Thank you Howard! There’s a tiny dot there that I had not noticed. You don’t know how many times I tried to pull down from every point other than that tiny dot to no avail. What a twit I am!! On Dec 7, 2014, at 3:16 PM, Howard Bornstein bornst...@designeq.com wrote: Just pull down from the bottom of the color picker patches and you'll get 10 rows, just like earlier versions. On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 3:01 PM, Roger Guay i...@mac.com wrote: Just the flatness of it, but more importantly, the limit of just one row of color patches. I was used to using multiple rows to record and manage multiple projects. I realize now that It’s no biggie, and I overreacted! I’ll build a better tool for what I need and offer to all to make up for petulance. Roger On Dec 7, 2014, at 10:59 AM, Geoff Canyon gcan...@gmail.com wrote: How does the color picker look different to you? I'm on Yosemite and it looks the same as I remember: color picker choices across the top: color wheel (default), color sliders, etc.; then the color wheel itself below that; then the saturation slider below that; then the actual color selected and the saved colors below that; and finally the cancel and okay buttons below that. On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 10:21 PM, Roger Guay i...@mac.com wrote: I’m sure the new color picker is totally Apple’s (Yosemite) fault, but I hate it? It’s ugly and not as functional as the old one. Is there anything I can do about it, like go back to the old one? TIA, Roger ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Regards, Howard Bornstein --- www.designeq.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: I Hate the New Color Picker
I wouldn't have seen it myself if I hadn't used my large Holmesian magnifying glass.;-) On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 4:27 PM, Roger Guay i...@mac.com wrote: Thank you Howard! There’s a tiny dot there that I had not noticed. You don’t know how many times I tried to pull down from every point other than that tiny dot to no avail. What a twit I am!! On Dec 7, 2014, at 3:16 PM, Howard Bornstein bornst...@designeq.com wrote: Just pull down from the bottom of the color picker patches and you'll get 10 rows, just like earlier versions. On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 3:01 PM, Roger Guay i...@mac.com wrote: Just the flatness of it, but more importantly, the limit of just one row of color patches. I was used to using multiple rows to record and manage multiple projects. I realize now that It’s no biggie, and I overreacted! I’ll build a better tool for what I need and offer to all to make up for petulance. Roger On Dec 7, 2014, at 10:59 AM, Geoff Canyon gcan...@gmail.com wrote: How does the color picker look different to you? I'm on Yosemite and it looks the same as I remember: color picker choices across the top: color wheel (default), color sliders, etc.; then the color wheel itself below that; then the saturation slider below that; then the actual color selected and the saved colors below that; and finally the cancel and okay buttons below that. On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 10:21 PM, Roger Guay i...@mac.com wrote: I’m sure the new color picker is totally Apple’s (Yosemite) fault, but I hate it? It’s ugly and not as functional as the old one. Is there anything I can do about it, like go back to the old one? TIA, Roger ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Regards, Howard Bornstein --- www.designeq.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Regards, Howard Bornstein --- www.designeq.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: I Hate the New Color Picker
On 06/12/14 05:21, Roger Guay wrote: I’m sure the new color picker is totally Apple’s (Yosemite) fault, but I hate it? It’s ugly and not as functional as the old one. Is there anything I can do about it, like go back to the old one? TIA, Roger There seems to be quite a lot to hate about Yosemite. I wonder what Apple thought they were doing. Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: I Hate the New Color Picker
On Sat, Dec 6, 2014 at 1:43 AM, Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.com wrote: I wonder what Apple thought they were doing. there's a UI department at apple that has to change SOMETHING to prove their worth. *--* *Stephen Barncard - San Francisco Ca. USA - Deeds Not Words* ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: I Hate the New Color Picker
Richmond, Do I recall that you had converted an old MetaCard Color picker for LC about a year ago? If so, is it still available? Thanks! Roger On Dec 6, 2014, at 1:43 AM, Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.com wrote: On 06/12/14 05:21, Roger Guay wrote: I’m sure the new color picker is totally Apple’s (Yosemite) fault, but I hate it? It’s ugly and not as functional as the old one. Is there anything I can do about it, like go back to the old one? TIA, Roger There seems to be quite a lot to hate about Yosemite. I wonder what Apple thought they were doing. Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: I Hate the New Color Picker
On 06/12/14 22:12, Roger Guay wrote: Richmond, Do I recall that you had converted an old MetaCard Color picker for LC about a year ago? If so, is it still available? Thanks! Roger That's true: but I haven't a clue where it has gone. Possibly (???) I could just suck it out of the Metacard setup and post it again :) Don't hold your breath; it'll take a while. Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: I Hate the New Color Picker
No hurry, and no worries if you don’t. I can always use the ugly one. Thanks! On Dec 6, 2014, at 12:19 PM, Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.com wrote: On 06/12/14 22:12, Roger Guay wrote: Richmond, Do I recall that you had converted an old MetaCard Color picker for LC about a year ago? If so, is it still available? Thanks! Roger That's true: but I haven't a clue where it has gone. Possibly (???) I could just suck it out of the Metacard setup and post it again :) Don't hold your breath; it'll take a while. Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: I Hate the New Color Picker
On 06/12/14 22:12, Roger Guay wrote: Richmond, Do I recall that you had converted an old MetaCard Color picker for LC about a year ago? If so, is it still available? Thanks! Roger The file 'CP.zip' here: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ja47l87gg87sn0q/AAAIj99kEQVOb8ev3jz8C5ORa?dl=0 Best, Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: I Hate the New Color Picker
Got it. Thanks very much! Cheers, Roger On Dec 6, 2014, at 12:30 PM, Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.com wrote: On 06/12/14 22:12, Roger Guay wrote: Richmond, Do I recall that you had converted an old MetaCard Color picker for LC about a year ago? If so, is it still available? Thanks! Roger The file 'CP.zip' here: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ja47l87gg87sn0q/AAAIj99kEQVOb8ev3jz8C5ORa?dl=0 Best, Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
I Hate the New Color Picker
I’m sure the new color picker is totally Apple’s (Yosemite) fault, but I hate it? It’s ugly and not as functional as the old one. Is there anything I can do about it, like go back to the old one? TIA, Roger ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
