Re: Livecode server UNIX version (not Linux).

2020-10-31 Thread doc hawk via use-livecode
heriberto harrumphed >3) Today's macOS is descended from NeXT (which Apple acquired and > transitioned macOS to in 1999) And they got a free Jobs to go with it! Or did they buy a Jobs, and get a free OS. I’ve never quite been clear . . > 6) The Mach microkernel was replaced with the App

Re: Livecode server UNIX version (not Linux).

2020-10-31 Thread Heriberto Torrado via use-livecode
Richard, Brian thank you very much, I read about this Livecode execution method a time ago and found it amazing. Livecode is an amazing product! So, these are my thoughts: 1) It seems we can run a Livecode headless binary on BSD using the Linux compatibility layer. Is that so? 2) How difficul

Re: Livecode server UNIX version (not Linux).

2020-10-31 Thread Heriberto Torrado via use-livecode
Not very sure, but months ago I read this (but he seems to talk about BSD user utils more than the Kernel). https://www.quora.com/Is-macOS-considered-to-be-a-BSD-UNIX Yes, Apple’s macOS can be considered to be a BSD UNIX.    1) Apple’s macOS is an officially certified UNIX, that takes care of

Re: Livecode server UNIX version (not Linux).

2020-10-31 Thread Heriberto Torrado via use-livecode
Hi Richard, Although I love UNIX, I think this is a much better point. Looking at the feedback comments I have realized that porting Livecode to BSD may not be worth it. However, I think it is critical for our community to be able to run Livecode scripting on IOT devices. IOT and Edge comp

Re: Livecode server UNIX version (not Linux).

2020-10-29 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Brian Milby wrote: > On Oct 28, 2020, at 11:57 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: >> But Heriberto's up for an adventure, one enhancement that would lower >> RAM use and speed things up a bit is this one: >> >> https://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=14115 >> >> Heriberto, if that's interesting to yo

Re: Livecode server UNIX version (not Linux).

2020-10-29 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Are we sure about this?? I thought Apple had moved completely away from BSD a long while back. Bob S > On Oct 28, 2020, at 12:53 , Heriberto Torrado via use-livecode > wrote: > > Thanks Andre, > > I realized that BSD kernels are not the same as MacOS kernels. > As you say: MacOS has a hybr

RE: Livecode server UNIX version (not Linux).

2020-10-29 Thread Ralph DiMola via use-livecode
Gaskin Subject: Re: Livecode server UNIX version (not Linux). What is the workaround that you ended up using? I looked at the code once but it quickly went over my head. I couldn’t see where the fonts were pulled in, at least not where it could be cleanly intercepted. Sent from my iPhone >

Re: Livecode server UNIX version (not Linux).

2020-10-29 Thread Brian Milby via use-livecode
What is the workaround that you ended up using? I looked at the code once but it quickly went over my head. I couldn’t see where the fonts were pulled in, at least not where it could be cleanly intercepted. Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 28, 2020, at 11:57 PM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode >

Re: Livecode server UNIX version (not Linux).

2020-10-29 Thread Andre Garzia via use-livecode
Hey Friends, I'm enjoying this thread a lot. I'll not be the person to tell someone not to port LC to some new ISA or OS, I think it would be great if LC would run in BSD. Personally, I don't have the time or even the skillset to help this, but I'd love to benefit from it. Incidentally this is the

Re: Livecode server UNIX version (not Linux).

2020-10-28 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Pi Digital wrote: > Here’s my take (for what it’s worth). Although Unix is used in 71.6% > (source: w3techs.com) of all known websites as of today and Linux only > 29.0%, at least we have ‘a’ distro that works on some server. That struck me as odd, so I took a moment to see how they derived that

Re: Livecode server UNIX version (not Linux).

2020-10-28 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Heriberto Torrado wrote: > So, here is my idea: What about to create non official versions of > Livecode server (for scripting purposes) for other platforms not yet > supported? > I think it could be good for RunRev: They won't have to work > supporting those versions and Livecode language will s

Re: Livecode server UNIX version (not Linux).

2020-10-28 Thread Pi Digital via use-livecode
It’s a great idea. How do you propose it be handled? Assuming this is a build based on the current system it will likely have to be compiled in Linux as the obvious choice. Do we have anyone with the appropriate skills in coding C to look into the various server platforms to be compiled for? Som

Re: Livecode server UNIX version (not Linux).

2020-10-28 Thread Heriberto Torrado via use-livecode
Thanks Andre, I realized that BSD kernels are not the same as MacOS kernels. As you say: MacOS has a hybrid kernel based on XNU and some parts of BSD. I'm only interested in running the Livecode server version and not the IDE. So, I think that compiling could be the best solution. I have been c

Re: Livecode server UNIX version (not Linux).

2020-10-28 Thread Andre Garzia via use-livecode
On Mon, 19 Oct 2020 at 21:31, Paul McClernan via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > > > OS X, Windows 95 through Windows 10, Raspberry Pi and "several variations > > of Unix (I think is just means Linux)". > > > > I'm thinking about tinkering with a FreeBSD server and LiveCod

Re: Livecode server UNIX version (not Linux).

2020-10-19 Thread Paul McClernan via use-livecode
> > OS X, Windows 95 through Windows 10, Raspberry Pi and "several variations > of Unix (I think is just means Linux)". > > I'm thinking about tinkering with a FreeBSD server and LiveCode server, > but I didn't see a "UNIX" version, so I suppose that I have to compile it. > Have any of you installe

Re: Livecode server UNIX version (not Linux).

2020-10-18 Thread Heriberto Torrado via use-livecode
Hi Richmond, I think it's because since the early 2000's, Linux is the UNIX-like standard platform in the world, and maybe Runrev realized that it is not worth it to put more effort into other UNIX platforms rather than Linux It is a pity because now, Linux runs on 90% of the internet servers

Re: Livecode server UNIX version (not Linux).

2020-10-18 Thread Heriberto Torrado via use-livecode
Barnand, Thanks for your kindly response "What amazes me nowadays is just how much more complex things are than they were 20 years ago" Yes,that's the main problem today. Regardless of the programming language, nowadays we have to deal with desktops, mobiles, servers, etc. and that is crazy.

Re: Livecode server UNIX version (not Linux).

2020-10-18 Thread Bernard Devlin via use-livecode
Which is why my sentence finishes with "... to be in a situation to take on this level of complexity." :-) Apple first bought the domain iphone.org in 1999. That the iPhone was under development was even being discussed by mainstream media such as the New York Times in 2002. The public availabilit

Re: Livecode server UNIX version (not Linux).

2020-10-17 Thread Richmond via use-livecode
"But rightly LC saw where the future was headed with mobile computing and they obviously had to make sacrifices along the way (e.g. FreeBSD, etc)" That sounds super if it were true, but I don't think it is as RunRev (as they then were) dropped support for SPARC, UNIX and so forth a long time b

Re: Livecode server UNIX version (not Linux).

2020-10-16 Thread Bernard Devlin via use-livecode
Hi Heriberto Back in the day (20 years ago) the engine/IDE ran on FreeBSD and various proprietary unixes. The Linux server version has been seen to work on FreeBSD back in 2011 (after installing Linux compatibility layer). http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Yay-Victory-RevServer-run