Re: Set DoubleClickInterval very low!

2016-08-04 Thread Mark Waddingham
All I was pointing out was that the current mechanism means you need to put in shim doubleMouse handlers in the controls which don't respond to double clicks *and* you have to write more code if you want to handle triple click. A simpler pattern (I think at least) is the one I suggested where

Re: Set DoubleClickInterval very low!

2016-08-04 Thread Mark Waddingham
In order for you to be able to do completely different things on click and double click you need to wait and see if a double click occurs before the doubleClickInterval and if it does not *then* do the single click action. After all, the engine is not clairvoyant. This is why click then double

error Previous request not completed

2016-08-04 Thread Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami
how do we clear this so that we can initiate a network connection again? If one is working on a complex script and gets a URL or something wrong, then the upload attempt fails and we start getting this in the result, from libURL (it is not among the lines of the scriptExecutionErrors) error

Re: Ideas for LiveCode workshops - help needed

2016-08-04 Thread dunbarx
Hi. It sounds like the workshops are intermediate-level and above, for those with considerable experience with LC already. True? Craig Newman -Original Message- From: Dave Kilroy To: How to use LiveCode Sent: Thu, Aug

Re: Ideas for LiveCode workshops - help needed

2016-08-04 Thread rjd318
Yikes! My eyes widened when I saw that you did a workshop previously on a messaging app utilizing a web service and MySQL since that is what I woke up this morning thinking about learning how to do  Do you have the materials or stacks available for us to look at? Sent from my iPhone > On

Re: Ideas for LiveCode workshops - help needed

2016-08-04 Thread Devin Asay
> On Aug 4, 2016, at 2:54 AM, Dave Kilroy wrote: > > This is a request for ideas for LiveCode workshops > > That is, where one of us is organising a day-long workshop on LiveCode and > are looking for a main topic for the day. > > I’m not looking for fully-worked

Re: Ideas for LiveCode workshops - help needed

2016-08-04 Thread Devin Asay
If you can remind me of when I did that I can try to find the materials. ;-) > On Aug 4, 2016, at 5:21 AM, rjd318 wrote: > > Yikes! My eyes widened when I saw that you did a workshop previously on a > messaging app utilizing a web service and MySQL since that is what I woke

Standalone randomly crashes on Win 7 & 10

2016-08-04 Thread jbv
Hi list One of my clients experiences random crashes on Win 7 & 10 with a standalone built with LC Community 6.5.2. The same standalone built for Mac simultaneously with the Win version never crashes... I also have other apps built with the same LC version and used by other clients on Win 7, 8 and

Re: Ideas for LiveCode workshops - help needed

2016-08-04 Thread Robert Mann
How about something really down to earth? >> a simple database, like filemaker, that help dealing with day to day web >> research : • grab web pages picture and the link, • allow to write notes & emails • and basic search & ordering functions. or is filemaker simpler to set and use than

Ideas for LiveCode workshops - help needed

2016-08-04 Thread Dave Kilroy
This is a request for ideas for LiveCode workshops That is, where one of us is organising a day-long workshop on LiveCode and are looking for a main topic for the day. I’m not looking for fully-worked up teaching resources (although that would be nice), but general ideas or topics for the

Re: Extracting list of errors from LiveCode 8

2016-08-04 Thread Thierry Douez
Hi Lyn, within LC 8.0, this works: *put* the cErrorsList of stack "revErrorDisplay" ​Regards, Thierry ​ > In LiveCode 7 and earlier, one could use the following to extract the list > of errors: > > the cErrorsList of cd 1 of stack "revErrorDisplay" > > However, this no longer works in

Extracting list of errors from LiveCode 8

2016-08-04 Thread Lyn Teyla
Hi all, In LiveCode 7 and earlier, one could use the following to extract the list of errors: the cErrorsList of cd 1 of stack "revErrorDisplay" However, this no longer works in LiveCode 8. What is the new method of extracting the list of errors? TIA, Lyn

Re: Extracting list of errors from LiveCode 8

2016-08-04 Thread Ali Lloyd
You can use the global property the scriptExecutionErrors To obtain this list. Note that this does not work in a standalone so if you need it you'll have to set a custom property on an included stack or something like that. On Thu, 4 Aug 2016 at 10:29, Lyn Teyla wrote: >

Re: Extracting list of errors from LiveCode 8

2016-08-04 Thread Lyn Teyla
Thierry Douez wrote: > within LC 8.0, this works: > > *put* the cErrorsList of stack "revErrorDisplay" Thanks Thierry! However, this doesn’t seem to work with 8.0.2 RC 4 and 8.1.0 DP 3. Lyn ___ use-livecode mailing list

Re: conference news

2016-08-04 Thread Paul Dupuis
I'm watching the streams right now and they both fine here in the northeast US. On 8/4/2016 9:48 AM, panagiotis merakos wrote: > What kind of problem are you seeing? Is there any problem in the streaming? > > > > On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 4:44 PM, Mike Kerner > wrote: >

Re: Ideas for LiveCode workshops - help needed

2016-08-04 Thread Rick Harrison
Hi Dave, A simple one might be on how to use the new dictionary interface to find anything one might be looking for. ;-) Hope that helps! Rick > On Aug 4, 2016, at 4:54 AM, Dave Kilroy wrote: > > This is a request for ideas for LiveCode workshops > > That

conference news

2016-08-04 Thread Mike Kerner
so is there a network or cell failure in Edinburgh? I haven't heard a peep -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and did a little diving. And God said, "This is

Re: LC 8 on Windows

2016-08-04 Thread Skip Kimpel
Finally determined it was PowerPlug that was causing all the problems in version 8. Everything seems to be working good now that it is no longer in my plugin folder. SKIP On Sun, Jul 10, 2016 at 11:12 AM, Mike Bonner wrote: > I don't have time to do it today but heres some

Re: conference news

2016-08-04 Thread Mike Kerner
No, I am doing other work things. I was hoping that someone was posting thoughts, summaries, etc. On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 9:54 AM, Paul Dupuis wrote: > I'm watching the streams right now and they both fine here in the > northeast US. > > On 8/4/2016 9:48 AM, panagiotis

Re: conference news

2016-08-04 Thread panagiotis merakos
What kind of problem are you seeing? Is there any problem in the streaming? On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 4:44 PM, Mike Kerner wrote: > so is there a network or cell failure in Edinburgh? I haven't heard a peep > > -- > On the first day, God created the heavens and the

Re: conference news

2016-08-04 Thread Paul Dupuis
Probably won't see much commentary until after the conference is over later today. On 8/4/2016 10:04 AM, Mike Kerner wrote: > No, I am doing other work things. I was hoping that someone was posting > thoughts, summaries, etc. > > On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 9:54 AM, Paul Dupuis

Re: conference news

2016-08-04 Thread Colin Holgate
We’re all paying attention! > On Aug 4, 2016, at 3:13 PM, Paul Dupuis wrote: > > Probably won't see much commentary until after the conference is over > later today. > > On 8/4/2016 10:04 AM, Mike Kerner wrote: >> No, I am doing other work things. I was hoping that

Re: Set DoubleClickInterval very low!

2016-08-04 Thread Richard Gaskin
Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami wrote: > Suffice it to say that > > set the doubleClickInterval to 100 > > Immediately turned our new app into a "snappy responsive" animal. > > Which is good, because the prevailing thought was beginning to become > "Livecode is really to slow for mobile." when in

Re: Set DoubleClickInterval very low!

2016-08-04 Thread Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami
@ Mark which confirms that lowering the doubleClick Interval to thereby increase responsiveness of a single click is not a bug, but, just the way it works… On 8/3/16, 9:02 PM, "use-livecode on behalf of Mark Waddingham"

Re: Set DoubleClickInterval very low!

2016-08-04 Thread Richard Gaskin
A moment ago I wrote: > Unless you have some other factor at play there, changing the value > of any property not related to an action should never be needed, and > should be considered a bug. The first clause is key there. I haven't spent much time with iOS yet, and perhaps there's a bug in

Re: Ideas for LiveCode workshops - help needed

2016-08-04 Thread Richard Gaskin
Robert Mann wrote: > or is filemaker simpler to set and use than livecode?? ah ah!! I would certainly hope so. FileMaker is a wonderful tool, but is designed to deliver one category of application, a database. LiveCode is a far more flexible tool designed to deliver thousands of categories

Re: Ideas for LiveCode workshops - help needed

2016-08-04 Thread Earthednet-wp
An app that interacts with the cloud and/or web services would be of great interest to me. Bill William Prothero http://es.earthednet.org > On Aug 4, 2016, at 8:04 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > > How about a client-server user registration system? > > Everyone needs

Re: Ideas for LiveCode workshops - help needed

2016-08-04 Thread Matt Maier
hostm.com has a tutorial with a desktop stack and server scripts that allows you to add users to a database on the server from the desktop using HTTPS. It would be neat to have a generic "track stuff" app in Livecode that's got all the if-then's and libraries and whatnot to be compiled and work

Re: Set DoubleClickInterval very low!

2016-08-04 Thread Peter M. Brigham
That's what I thought. The engine is certainly not clairvoyant. I can script around this. I was hoping that the newer LC versions had somehow made it easier to do different things with single and double clicks, since I'm not sure why you would ever want a doubleclick to default to including the

Re: Set DoubleClickInterval very low!

2016-08-04 Thread Richard Gaskin
Peter M. Brigham wrote: > So I must not be understanding this. If you want something to happen > on mouseup and something else to happen on mousedoubleup, then how > do you do it? The other question is *why* would you do it? A control usually has an interaction semantics role of either a verb

Re: conference news

2016-08-04 Thread Roger Eller
Here on the east coast, the stream is dropping out (pausing) every 5 seconds for about 1 second. It is very annoying. On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 10:23 AM, Colin Holgate wrote: > We’re all paying attention! > > > > On Aug 4, 2016, at 3:13 PM, Paul Dupuis

Re: conference news

2016-08-04 Thread Richard Gaskin
Mike Kerner wrote: > I was hoping that someone was posting thoughts, summaries, etc. So far the only comment I've seen about the conference was from a newcomer named Ewan in the forums who had some very nice things to say about it and the people he met:

Re: Ideas for LiveCode workshops - help needed

2016-08-04 Thread Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami
1) consider a way to do these on line… possibly shorter (I'm in Hawaii so…..attendance is limited) 2) go thru all past conferences and look at the different track subject matter: These were well thought out and could serve as a theme for a number of work shops. 3) try to solicit other to be

Re: Ideas for LiveCode workshops - help needed

2016-08-04 Thread Richard Gaskin
How about a client-server user registration system? Everyone needs one, and in addition to being widely useful it would demonstrate making HTTPS calls from LC clients, server-side DB use, and other things that play an ever more pervasive role in our increasingly cloud-driven world. --

Re: conference news

2016-08-04 Thread Richard Gaskin
Paul Dupuis wrote: > For me (attending via Webcasts) the highlight of the conference (which > is really hard to pick only 1 highlight as there were a lot of good > sessions!) was Kevin Millar's presentation on Kognition. How did you see that? When I log in Day 3 sessions don't appear to have

Re: Set DoubleClickInterval very low!

2016-08-04 Thread J. Landman Gay
Note that on Android double clicks are almost unheard of. Android uses a long press for alternative actions. On August 4, 2016 10:31:01 AM Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami wrote: @ Mark which confirms that lowering the doubleClick Interval to thereby increase responsiveness

Re: Ideas for LiveCode workshops - help needed

2016-08-04 Thread Dave Kilroy
Thank you all for your ideas and suggestions! I’m summarising them as follows: A drag and drop matching game. A to-do list app. A simple e-reader app. A walking tour app with a map that you can click for additional information and photos. An app that helps with web research (grab text and

Re: ios update issue

2016-08-04 Thread me
Which iPad, Mike? My update went fine. I've got the latest iPad Air. Best, Jerry On Aug 4, 2016, 2:32 PM -0500, Mike Kerner , wrote: > Ugh. This is becoming more of a problem, as it seems that there are more > than a few people dealing with it. Hold off on installing

Re: Extracting list of errors from LiveCode 8

2016-08-04 Thread Lyn Teyla
Ali Lloyd wrote: > You can use the global property > > the scriptExecutionErrors > > To obtain this list. Note that this does not work in a standalone so if you > need it you'll have to set a custom property on an included stack or > something like that. Thanks Ali! It looks like the

Re: What to do with long press? (was Re: Set DoubleClickInterval very low!)

2016-08-04 Thread J. Landman Gay
Well, if I said "only" I shouldn't have. It's used to select text, and a long press on an embedded link usually shows the full URL along with a list of options on what to do with the link (copy, open, save to disk, etc. ) Long pressing a word in my ebook reader puts up a mini menu above the

Re: conference news

2016-08-04 Thread AndyP
There's a little trickle re the conference on Twitter @LiveCode - Andy Piddock My software never has bugs. It just develops random features. Copy the new cloud space, get your free 15GB space now: Get Copy Script editor Themer for LC http://2108.co.uk PointandSee is a FREE simple

Re: error Previous request not completed

2016-08-04 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 8/4/2016 11:05 AM, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami wrote: it still failed and locked up.. that's where I added "put the result" at the end of the loop and there it was again: "error Previous request not completed" We've had the same issue, the problem occurs usually on slower connections.

Re: Set DoubleClickInterval very low!

2016-08-04 Thread Richard Gaskin
Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami wrote: It's very simple: on mouseup # do something right now and don't wait more than 100 milliseconds # because we don't use double clicks anywhere in this app end mouseup There is no "dual model" to even think about. If you have no interest in

Re: error Previous request not completed

2016-08-04 Thread Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami
Jacqueline.. thanks for these snippets what about reset? if pError is "Previous request not completed" behavior here I'm getting is that the attempt to run that repeat will fail because the network API is "locked up" BR On 8/4/16, 9:11 AM, "use-livecode on behalf of J. Landman Gay"

Re: Set DoubleClickInterval very low!

2016-08-04 Thread J. Landman Gay
On August 4, 2016 11:11:22 AM Richard Gaskin wrote: , you might consider removing that dual model altogether and finding a different means of delivering the options you're seeking to provide for the user. Just a personal anecdote: I've spent most of my mobile time

Re: What to do with long press? (was Re: Set DoubleClickInterval very low!)

2016-08-04 Thread Roger Eller
I remember an old webinar where LC demonstrated (at least on iOS) a desktop pop-up automatically "just worked" as a mobile pick list. I believe it was Ben Beaumont showing that. I never saw it for Android, but that was no surprise. ~Roger On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 12:46 PM, Richard Gaskin

Re: error Previous request not completed

2016-08-04 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 8/4/2016 2:37 PM, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami wrote: what about reset? if pError is "Previous request not completed" behavior here I'm getting is that the attempt to run that repeat will fail because the network API is "locked up" I haven't seen a lockup, so I'm not sure. Because the

Re: conference news

2016-08-04 Thread Paul Dupuis
On 8/4/2016 12:14 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > How did you see that? When I log in Day 3 sessions don't appear to > have been posted yet. > > Early riser? :) East coast time made it possible. It was 7:30AM my time. Which, becuase I accidentally overslept from when I normally get up, pretty much

ios update issue

2016-08-04 Thread Mike Kerner
Is anyone else having a problem with the latest ios security update? After going through the process to download and install it, when my ipad booted, it said that it wasn't eligible for the update. I've gone through this three times, and each time I get the same message, whether i do a restore

Re: Set DoubleClickInterval very low!

2016-08-04 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 8/4/2016 12:37 PM, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami wrote: Jacqueline: can you supply a small "long press" trap snippet for us here? tks I see Richard beat me to it, which was nice. Jacqueline: how do you give a mobile user on android the ability to select a range of text versus just a word?

Re: Answer Folder Prompt Message

2016-08-04 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 8/3/2016 4:59 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote: I just noticed that Answer Folder prompt is not showing up in El Capitan. The dialog shows and works okay, but there is no prompt. This may be an issue with El Capitan or it may be a bug. It's El Capitan, Apple changed the rules again. Somewhere along

Re: ios update issue

2016-08-04 Thread Mike Kerner
Ugh. This is becoming more of a problem, as it seems that there are more than a few people dealing with it. Hold off on installing this update for a day or two, I suggest. On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 2:50 PM, Mike Kerner wrote: > Is anyone else having a problem with the

Re: error Previous request not completed

2016-08-04 Thread Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami
"more details" very difficult to debug because there is no feedback mechanism by which to trap the actual cause(s) of the problem. Initially I had some obvious problem with creating an incomplete remote URL for libURL/TsNet to "put" the data into to… "developer/scripter's error" but later I

Re: Set DoubleClickInterval very low!

2016-08-04 Thread Richard Gaskin
Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami wrote: > On 8/3/16, 9:02 PM, Mark Waddingham wrote: > >> In order for you to be able to do completely different things on >> click and double click you need to wait and see if a double click >> occurs before the doubleClickInterval and if it does not *then* do >> the

Re: Extracting list of errors from LiveCode 8

2016-08-04 Thread Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami
FYI, not all errors from all included plug-ins will show with the scriptExecutionErrors. e.g. libURL errors can silently lock up the entire IDE and you will only know if explicitly check for the result at the right place in your script. On 8/3/16, 11:59 PM, "use-livecode on behalf of Ali

Re: conference news

2016-08-04 Thread Paul Dupuis
On 8/4/2016 11:13 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > Mike Kerner wrote: > > > I was hoping that someone was posting thoughts, summaries, etc. > > So far the only comment I've seen about the conference was from a > newcomer named Ewan in the forums who had some very nice things to say > about it and the

Re: error Previous request not completed

2016-08-04 Thread Charles Warwick
On 4/08/2016 4:42 pm, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami wrote: how do we clear this so that we can initiate a network connection again? To completely reset libUrl, there is a command libUrlResetAll that should reset all networking connections. If you are using libUrl with tsNet, and you want to

What to do with long press? (was Re: Set DoubleClickInterval very low!)

2016-08-04 Thread Richard Gaskin
J. Landman Gay wrote: > Note that on Android double clicks are almost unheard of. Android > uses a long press for alternative actions. ...as long as that alternate action is a tooltip ("toast"). :) I was thinking about long press recently with an app I'm making, and it reminded me of our