On 9/6/18 9:02 PM, Mark Wieder via use-livecode wrote:
On 09/06/2018 06:08 PM, James At The Hale via use-livecode wrote:
Mark asked:
There's a new extension store on the way?
Well it is here already. Only it currently only offers widgets.
The plan, as presented in one of the LC Globals a
On 9/6/18 9:41 PM, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode wrote:
Is the some documentation the Script Editor, auto complete et. al.?
It's in the User Guide, page 498.
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On 9/6/18 10:56 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote:
On 9/6/18 9:02 PM, Mark Wieder via use-livecode wrote:
On 09/06/2018 06:08 PM, James At The Hale via use-livecode wrote:
Mark asked:
There's a new extension store on the way?
Well it is here already. Only it currently only offers
J. Landman Gay wrote:
> On 9/6/18 9:02 PM, Mark Wieder via use-livecode wrote:
>> On 09/06/2018 06:08 PM, James At The Hale via use-livecode wrote:
>>> Mark asked:
There's a new extension store on the way?
>>>
>>> Well it is here already. Only it currently only offers widgets.
...
>> Did I
Did anyone know that "6. " is equal to "6."???
THAT is disturbing! So now we have to check the length of a string as well to
make sure there is an exact match???
Bob S
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Curry:
Your last benchmark mentioned that this was a test for Windows 10. I may have
missed this qualifier in the previous discussion: do I take it that the
slowdown in performance noted are all Windows 10 tests? Has performance on Mac
and Linux also degraded by similar amounts?
I ask because
Mark asked:
> There's a new extension store on the way?
Well it is here already. Only it currently only offers widgets.
The plan, as presented in one of the LC Globals a while back, is for this to be
a one stop shop for all.
The current livecodeshare will be migrated across and the ability to
On 09/06/2018 06:08 PM, James At The Hale via use-livecode wrote:
Mark asked:
There's a new extension store on the way?
Well it is here already. Only it currently only offers widgets.
The plan, as presented in one of the LC Globals a while back, is for this to be
a one stop shop for all.
James At The Hale wrote:
> The plan, as presented in one of the LC Globals a while back, is for
> this to be a one stop shop for all.
> The current livecodeshare will be migrated across and the ability to
> upload snippets etc will be added.
When?
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Bob Sneidar wrote:
> Yes, but it's the kind of thing that can bite a new programmer in the
> butt.
HyperTalk had a reputation for being difficult to learn. ;)
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I don't have the dictionary handy, so check it for this, but I thought the:
dgHilitedIndex is the record number in the array
and
dgHilitedLine was the visible line number?
Look up dgHilitedLine vs dgHilitedIndex
On 9/6/2018 7:38 PM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote:
> It must be late in the
Mike Kerner wrote:
I like the is vs = idea.
Me too, but I'm afraid decades of code across the entire xTalk world
form a substantial enough legacy to render the change prohibitive.
Any suggestions for a new operator token to specify numeric equivalence?
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Is the some documentation the Script Editor, auto complete et. al.?
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Richard wrote of a repository but isn’t this what the new extension store is
supposed to provide?
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How did you do the JavaScript (in browser?) and
how did you do the timing?
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hh wrote:
> Jacques LG wrote:
>> We can upload zip files to Sample Stacks? ...
>
> No.
Unfortunate. Hopefully that will be changed soon. Zip is a common
foundation for many compound document types.
> But you can, of course, use a stack container for zips.
I used to do that, but ever since
James At The Hale wrote:
> Richard wrote of a repository but isn’t this what the new extension
> store is supposed to provide?
I haven't seen an announcement of a new extension store, but if it
includes widgets, libraries, externals, scripts, and stack files and is
searchable by type, license,
Was "ANN: LC Documentation Cache Cleaner"
Jacques LG wrote:
> We can upload zip files to Sample Stacks? ...
No. But you can, of course, use a stack container for zips.
I once uploaded a simple version:
http://livecodeshare.runrev.com/stack/805/ZipContainer
"Sample Stacks" had an update before
Hi Matthias,
On 2018-09-05 10:34, Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode wrote:
file "/home/xxx/public_html/xx/tz.lc"
row 4, col 5: extension: error occurred with domain (runtime)
row 4, col 5: extension: error occurred with description (unable to
load foreign library)
row 4, col 5:
Thank you very much Mark.
With that addition it works now. The timezone library is a great enhancement
for Livecode Server. No need to call external php code to do timezone
conversions.
And thanks for the ps. I can´t wait for 9.1 to test. :)
Regards
Matthias
> Am 06.09.2018 um 11:57
William Prothero wrote:
> Richard:
> Here’s what I found on the palette thing. I’m no longer worried about
> the backdrop because it was just me not seeing that there was a LC
> toolbar menu item that would turn it off. In fact, I may have been
> blaming Devo incorrectly, when it was LC’s
On Thu, Sep 6, 2018 at 5:55 AM Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>
> And thanks for the ps. I can´t wait for 9.1 to test. :)
>
No need to wait. I downloaded the LCB file and built it in the extension
builder using 9.0. I just had to comment out the “resolve
hh:
> How did you do the JavaScript (in browser?)
I wrote the JS code by hand, scripted the stack to copy it to clipboard
after each test, and ran it on js.do
> and how did you do the timing?
It's in the test code; download and all will be revealed! ;)
Later I will add the empty loop
Trevor, thanks for letting me know.
I am not very used with GitHub. Still learning how to organize my stuff.
So where do i find the .lcb file?
Regards,
Matthias
> Am 06.09.2018 um 13:18 schrieb Trevor DeVore via use-livecode
> mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>>:
>
> On Thu, Sep 6, 2018
Mark,
when using an other LCB library , where do i see what i have to enter in
set the revLibraryMapping[“?? ”] …….
I cannot find any information about revLibraryMapping in the dictionary.
Regards,
Matthias
> Am 06.09.2018 um 12:54 schrieb Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode
> :
>
>
Thanks Brian. I would have done it, but it seemed small potatoes to me. And I
never know if there is a good reason it works the way it does.
Bob S
> On Sep 5, 2018, at 21:06 , Brian Milby via use-livecode
> wrote:
>
> Bug report and PR submitted.
>
>
Hello Matthias,
In the PR Mark posted, click on the tab "Files Changed". Then scroll down
until you see the diffs for the macstatusmenu.lcb file. Click on the "View"
button for this file. Then click on "Raw". This should take you to this
page:
so the description seems to imply that the comparison should be as strings
if double-quotes are included around the literals.
On Thu, Sep 6, 2018 at 12:14 PM Mike Kerner
wrote:
> Dictionary:
> First, if you look in the operands, it says
> *The operands value1 and value2 can be numbers, literal
On 09/06/2018 09:06 AM, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote:
P.S. The engine has *always* worked like this - as have xTalks in
general. It's why you never have to put any explicit type conversion
anywhere when you are interchanging anything and things still work as
expected.
Yeah. IMO
On 2018-09-06 18:52, Mike Kerner via use-livecode wrote:
Right. If the explanation is clear then it's not an issue (even if it
is a
little weird - "6.abc"="6.xyz" is false but "6." is "6." is
true)
Well the explanation can be fixed :)
Its hard to say whether the language would be better or
dictionary says when comparing strings we go char by char, and says that
quotes around the literal causes it to be evaluated as a string.
On Thu, Sep 6, 2018 at 11:57 AM Mike Kerner
wrote:
> If I put anything else in place of the dot, I get a fail, but with the
> dot, i get true
>
> On Thu, Sep
On 2018-09-06 18:02, Mike Kerner via use-livecode wrote:
dictionary says when comparing strings we go char by char, and says
that
quotes around the literal causes it to be evaluated as a string.
Where in the dictionary? That should be revised.
Quotes make no difference - numbers and strings
On 09/06/2018 03:12 AM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote:
James At The Hale wrote:
> Richard wrote of a repository but isn’t this what the new extension
> store is supposed to provide?
I haven't seen an announcement of a new extension store, but if it
includes widgets, libraries,
actionDoubleClick message is not getting sent or else trapped by the widget
either. Is that a read/write function only? I have a tree view set to read
only.
Bob S
> On Sep 6, 2018, at 09:04 , Brian Milby via use-livecode
> wrote:
>
> I’ve done so much in that widget that it was easy to
Richard,
Thanks for looking into this. My problem came when the Devo palette wouldn’t
move to the left, even if the IDE tools palette was closed. But, it’s easy to
fix by just moving the IDE Tools palette to the right until it lets me move the
Devo palette to the left, then it no longer snaps
If I put anything else in place of the dot, I get a fail, but with the dot,
i get true
On Thu, Sep 6, 2018 at 11:55 AM Tore Nilsen via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> It seems to only compare the integer part of the statements. If you
> substitute the integer with a
I’ve done so much in that widget that it was easy to tackle. From an English
like syntax, I think it just makes sense to use the “empty” method of removing
the selection.
Thanks,
Brian
On Sep 6, 2018, 9:43 AM -0500, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
, wrote:
> Thanks Brian. I would have done it,
Dictionary:
First, if you look in the operands, it says
*The operands value1 and value2 can be numbers, literal strings of
characters (delimited with double quotes), or any sources of value,
including arrays.*
The example for comparing two strings is
"ABC" = "abc" -- true if and only if
On 2018-09-06 18:21, Mark Wieder via use-livecode wrote:
Yeah. IMO automatic type conversion is one of the failure points of
the xtalk paradigm, but it's always been thus.
To be fair, in the days of HyperCard when everything was strings (and
numbers were decimal strings) the rules worked
I think this is because the dot is also the decimal sign. Therefore it
interprets the strings as numerical values. And = and is are synonyms.
I guess if you write something like put «6» + «6» you will get 12 as the result.
Best regards
Tore Nilsen
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Curry,
sorry I overlooked the post with your download link
> http://curryk.com/showdown.zip
This is a *fine* comparison stack.
You could think about adding for LC 8/9 a browser widget and in
handler "work done", instead of copying to the clipboard,
set htmltext of widget "browser" to the cJS
wow. that's not cool. I just tried "is" and yep. is.
On Thu, Sep 6, 2018 at 11:47 AM Bob Sneidar via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> Did anyone know that "6. " is equal to "6."???
>
> THAT is disturbing! So now we have to check the length of a string as well
> to make
It seems to only compare the integer part of the statements. If you substitute
the integer with a letter, then it reports false. But still strange as the
quotation marks should indicates that this is a string.
Best regards
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It seems as long as all characters in the string can be numerical values, they
are treated as such. Space is treated as whitespace or empty. My guess for «6»
+ «6» to return 12 was right.
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On 2018-09-06 18:14, Mike Kerner via use-livecode wrote:
Dictionary:
First, if you look in the operands, it says
*The operands value1 and value2 can be numbers, literal strings of
characters (delimited with double quotes), or any sources of value,
including arrays.*
The example for comparing two
Right. If the explanation is clear then it's not an issue (even if it is a
little weird - "6.abc"="6.xyz" is false but "6." is "6." is true)
On Thu, Sep 6, 2018 at 12:43 PM Mark Waddingham via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> On 2018-09-06 18:21, Mark Wieder via
On 9/6/2018 11:46 AM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote:
> Did anyone know that "6. " is equal to "6."???
>
> THAT is disturbing! So now we have to check the length of a string as well to
> make sure there is an exact match???
>
This is the price of having a "type-less" programming language.
By way of rehtoric, and by no means a suggestion of any change in the engine,
it might have been better if "is" did a strict string comparison, while "=" or
"is equal to" attempted a numerical type conversion, and reverted to a string
comparison if either arguement failed.
What *might* be
Ignoring the leading or trailing whitespace is weird and counterintuitive.
If the language was more perfect, I think it would first not ignore the
other characters in the string no matter what they look like, then do the
implicit type coercion and then the comparison, even though there are
If it is supposed to, I can file the bug report. Not asking anyone to do my
work for me. I just need to know if it is supposed to and isn't, and I'll file
it.
Bob S
> On Sep 6, 2018, at 10:33 , Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
> wrote:
>
> actionDoubleClick message is not getting sent or else
I wonder is the reason "6" and "6." are treated as the same is because
"6." is read as "6.0"?
Late to the party, I know . . .
Richmond.
On 6/9/2018 10:34 pm, Jim Lambert via use-livecode wrote:
Did anyone know that "6. " is equal to "6."???
It’s somewhat similar to
value(“h “) is
"bite a new programmer in the butt" . . . well, as a person who was a
new programmer in 1975 and found
things very difficult to understand at first (FORTRAN IV) I certainly
don't remember having a sore bottom!
I do know, that is numerical calculations empty spaces are exactly that:
empty
It is working here. You only get the message for leaf nodes. In widget script I
have:
on actionDoubleClick pPath
put pPath
end actionDoubleClick
Thanks,
Brian
On Sep 6, 2018, 12:35 PM -0500, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
, wrote:
> If it is supposed to, I can file the bug report. Not asking
> Did anyone know that "6. " is equal to "6."???
It’s somewhat similar to
value(“h “) is equal to value(“h”),
while
“h “ is not equal to “h”.
I’m not disturbed but appreciative that the engine tries to convert both sides
to numbers when doing a comparison. Just must remember
I have come across this before . I think what I encountered was "" = 0
I had to do a workaround, figured it was a a decision based on other engine
factors.
I can see it being ok in 99% of cases.
On Thu, Sep 6, 2018 at 1:25 PM Mike Kerner via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>
I like the is vs = idea. I disagree with Paul that this is a price of it
being typeless. No other whitespace character in LC seems to cause this
behavior. It's not really true that it's typeless e.g. a blob (even though
technically a blob is a type). It's just that the typing is implied and
Yes, but it's the kind of thing that can bite a new programmer in the butt. And
the trouble with your comparison is that length("7. ") IS equal to length("6.
"). So multiple comparisons have to be made. But this is an edge case I admit.
I was only trying to maintain an index number for a
Oh I get it! Crap. I am creating a little pallette I am callign QuickNotes, and
the idea is that double clicking on an entry will add the thing you double
clicked on after the current selection in the topstack. I was hoping I could
just doubleclick a node to do this, but I can see I cannot.
I
> On 7 Sep 2018, at 12:34 am, Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode
> wrote:
>
> when using an other LCB library , where do i see what i have to enter in
>
> set the revLibraryMapping[“?? ”] …….
>
> I cannot find any information about revLibraryMapping in the dictionary.
It is not documented
On 09/06/2018 03:15 PM, Curry Kenworthy via use-livecode wrote:
Hello Everyone,
Updated stack and more complete results - let me know if you get
something very different on your machine.
I've added two additional LC benchmark test variations to the "showdown"
test stack. That gives it
On 09/06/2018 01:15 AM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote:
I see what's happening there. It appears the IDE team is attempting to
use a floating palette in a highly unusual way: rather than floating on
top of a document, it's assumed to be placed at the left and when it is
the
> On 6 Sep 2018, at 9:18 pm, Trevor DeVore via use-livecode
> wrote:
>
> I just had to comment out the “resolve file” line which
> that caused an error because it is new syntax.
It’s just important to remember if using the library with this commented out
that it will only find images where
Hello Everyone,
Updated stack and more complete results - let me know if you get
something very different on your machine.
I've added two additional LC benchmark test variations to the "showdown"
test stack. That gives it empty loop (with i) and math-intensive options
in the "root loops"
It must be late in the day, but I am having a hard time getting the VISIBLE
hilited line of a table datagrid. I can do the math based on the scroll and all
that, but what I want is for example, in a scrolled datagrid, the user clicks
on the first visible line. I want to return 1, or if the
ops, I should have waited for the next use-livecode email for the answer to my
question! Thanks Curry
Neville Smythe
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> RichardG wrote:
> Any suggestions for a new operator token to specify numeric equivalence?
Or maybe to specify string equivalence.
> Did anyone know that "6. " is equal to "6."???
string( "6. “) is not equal to string( "6.”)
where the function string() would tell LC not to try to
Is it possible to set the transparency of a background (or foreground) image
for a mergButton button?
Alternatively, are transparency settings used if using a PNG (if that's
possible)?
I see that we can set the transparency of the background, border and other
colours.
Monte or anyone else
J. Landman Gay wrote:
> We can upload zip files to Sample Stacks? If that's the case then
> I think the existing repository could work for now. Libraries,
> script-only stacks, externals, LCB files could all be accommodated.
> If something else is developed later, the files could be moved or
>
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