Re: Upcoming MacOS 14.5 with software “notarization” requirements

2019-04-11 Thread Andre Garzia via use-livecode
People forget that speed and latency are not related. Solving latency on networked apps is tricky. There will always be a place for Desktop apps (local apps on your computer I mean) On 10/04/2019 22:53, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote: Paul Dupuis wrote: > Of course this may all be a

Re: Upcoming MacOS 14.5 with software “notarization” requirements

2019-04-11 Thread Richmond via use-livecode
"There will always" reminds me of that James Bond film, "Never Say Never Again" . . . better be careful with pronouncements like that. Richmond. On 11.04.19 г. 11:12 ч., Andre Garzia via use-livecode wrote: People forget that speed and latency are not related. Solving latency on networked ap

Re: Panel/Form Widget

2019-04-11 Thread Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode
Richard Gaskin wrote: So for the foreseeable future, we have groups, sharable within a stack, and clonable anywhere, even into other stacks. --- BR: Jacques taught this trick, I sure others do it also, but FWIW Though "globals are bad" . I do use one global in the app

Re: Panel/Form Widget

2019-04-11 Thread Dalton Calford via use-livecode
Hi Richard, Thanks for your response! So for the foreseeable future, we have groups, sharable within a stack, > and clonable anywhere, even into other stacks. Using that as a > foundation, we may be able to write a handler or two to give you a very > Viewer-like experience, if you can share more

Re: Saving a tab formatted field to a file and retaining its formatting

2019-04-11 Thread Eller, Roger via use-livecode
Have you tried revPrintField? It's an oldie but goodie. From: use-livecode on behalf of Robert J. Earp via use-livecode Sent: Monday, April 8, 2019 12:24 PM To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Cc: Robert J. Earp Subject: Re: Saving a tab formatted field to a file and retaining its formatting T

Re: Panel/Form Widget

2019-04-11 Thread Håkan Liljegren via use-livecode
Maybe I don’t understand your idea but I do think you have kind of  the same using a group. If you design your group or your ”panel” you still need to place your controls. If you move a group you also move the controls within that group. You can also grab individual controls in a group if you cl

Re: Saving a tab formatted field to a file and retaining its formatting

2019-04-11 Thread Håkan Liljegren via use-livecode
If you want the tab stops to be included in the file I guess you need to add them manually to the rtf file. There is a \tx command in rtf that sets the tab size. I used it long time ago so I don’t remember of it was relative or absolut positions but I do think it should be doable… :-Håkan On 8

Re: Panel/Form Widget

2019-04-11 Thread Dalton Calford via use-livecode
Hi Hakan, I am not saying groups are not workable, I am just saying, that in comparison to other 'container' style controls on multiple other development platforms, they are not as easy to use, nor as versatile. In java, delphi, access, kde (the list goes on), you can do all the work you are desc

Documentation on Low Level Database Access

2019-04-11 Thread Dalton Calford via use-livecode
Hi all, I am looking at the git repositories, the widget documentation etc., looking for a solid guide on how livecode accesses database engines. For example, if I wanted to add low level support for another open source database that is available on all the same platforms as livecode, is there an

Re: Panel/Form Widget

2019-04-11 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Dalton Calford wrote: > I am not saying groups are not workable, I am just saying, that in > comparison to other 'container' style controls on multiple other > development platforms, they are not as easy to use, nor as versatile. Can you tell us more about how they differ in regard to what you'r

Re: Documentation on Low Level Database Access

2019-04-11 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Dalton Calford wrote: > I am looking at the git repositories, the widget documentation etc., > looking for a solid guide on how livecode accesses database engines. > > For example, if I wanted to add low level support for another open > source database that is available on all the same platforms

Re: Documentation on Low Level Database Access

2019-04-11 Thread Dalton Calford via use-livecode
Hi Richard, Thanks for the pointer. I will look that up this weekend. The database I am looking at is called firebird (www.firebirdsql.com). It has embedded and standalone libs. Supports windows, linux, osx and ios along with android. It is opensource and has native support for c++, c, pascal, .n

Re: Panel/Form Widget

2019-04-11 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
Hakan mentioned this but you may have missed it. You can definitely move controls around inside a group without breaking it apart or going into Edit Group mode. On the toolbar there's an icon called Select Grouped. Toggling that allows you to select the whole group (as you're doing now) or selec

Re: Panel/Form Widget

2019-04-11 Thread Dalton Calford via use-livecode
Hi Richard, I have no experience with such systems. I only work with computers, > where nothing happens until someone writes some code. :) > I understand where you are coming from, as I started out writing assembly for 8088 processors and the whole idea of writing a loop in a high level language

Re: Panel/Form Widget

2019-04-11 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Dalton Calford wrote: [lots of valuable stuff bookmarked but not quoted here only for brevity] > But, if you are still with me, I am willing to explain what I use, how > I use it, how it is used in many different applications and languages > and why. > > I can provide specifications, tests and o

Re: Panel/Form Widget

2019-04-11 Thread Dalton Calford via use-livecode
ok, In order to explain what I need the utility for, is as a front end to a highly normalized warehouse Temporal Graph database. That probably means nothing to you, but, lets assume it does for the time being. For a simple example, lets say we are dealing with addresses, 2.6 billion addresses, al

Re: Panel/Form Widget

2019-04-11 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
This is a very interesting description of a graph database application. But how does it relate to having a stack viewable within another stack? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems Dalton Calford wrote: ok, In order to explain what I need the utility for, is as a front end to a highly n

Re: Panel/Form Widget

2019-04-11 Thread Dalton Calford via use-livecode
I was about to explain using screen shots, flow diagrams etc., but, then I thought this may not be the best place to be discussing this. If you think this is as good a list as any, I can proceed, but, I will have to do so later this evening as I am about to start a MOP. best regards Dalton On T

Best strategy for dragging objects in an out of groups?

2019-04-11 Thread Michael Kristensen via use-livecode
Hi there What would be the best strategy for dragging objects in and out of groups? If anyone has a stack that demonstrate that it would be nice else just explain in plain words what you think is the best strategy. Thanks Michael PS While I write this Im thinking that maybe RELAYER in a mous

Re: Documentation on Low Level Database Access

2019-04-11 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode
On 4/11/19 9:12 AM, Dalton Calford via use-livecode wrote: Hi all, I am looking at the git repositories, the widget documentation etc., looking for a solid guide on how livecode accesses database engines. For example, if I wanted to add low level support for another open source database that is

Re: Panel/Form Widget

2019-04-11 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Dalton Calford wrote: > I was about to explain using screen shots, flow diagrams etc., but, > then I thought this may not be the best place to be discussing this. > > If you think this is as good a list as any, I can proceed, but, I will > have to do so later this evening as I am about to start a

Debugging in iOS 12?

2019-04-11 Thread William Prothero via use-livecode
Folks: I’m just diving into debugging my iPhone app after a long hiatus. I have iOS 12.2 on my iPhone and am using Xcode 10.1. Unfortunately, it appears that LC 9.0.4 (rc2) won’t support Xcode 10.2 (from the web site) and I get the following error message in Xcode: "This iPhone 6 is running iOS

RE: Debugging in iOS 12?

2019-04-11 Thread Ralph DiMola via use-livecode
That 10.1 error message will not affect your development. You can still drag apps into the devices window. You can also have both 10.1 and 10.2 on your Mac. Use 10.1 for building iOS apps and run 10.2 to access the devices window. If you have both versions then use 10.1 in the LC prefs. From the

Re: Debugging in iOS 12?

2019-04-11 Thread William Prothero via use-livecode
Thanks, Ralph! Bill > On Apr 11, 2019, at 2:04 PM, Ralph DiMola via use-livecode > wrote: > > That 10.1 error message will not affect your development. You can still drag > apps into the devices window. You can also have both 10.1 and 10.2 on your > Mac. Use 10.1 for building iOS apps and run

Re: Documentation on Low Level Database Access

2019-04-11 Thread Dalton Calford via use-livecode
Hi Mark, If I remember correctly, wasn't that DB-Layer rewrite promed back in version 5 or 6 along with full support for version control? On Thu, 11 Apr 2019 at 16:09, Mark Wieder via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > On 4/11/19 9:12 AM, Dalton Calford via use-livecode wrote