Hm. I'm also using a widget spinner. Anyone else?
How do we know it keeps going when hidden?
On 6/27/19 5:35 PM, Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode wrote:
For those who have been encountering CutThroatDesparados while stepping
through the script editor,
For those who have been encountering
Just in Case i'm the only one who doesn't have an official meaning of CTD.
Can I ask, does it Mean Crash To Desktop?
I searched the uselist and lo and behold the earliest use of it is by Bob,
answered by Peter Brett - and Peter seemed to know what it means.
So by a process of induction
> JLG wrote:
> Hm. I'm also using a widget spinner. Anyone else? How do we
> know it keeps going when hidden?
See the LCB code:
The spinner widget updates every 0.3 seconds, whether
visible or not.
Instead of hiding you could delete it when done.
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Crash To Desktop?
Yes.
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Or you can create a custom version of the widget and change line 88 from
being a constant to a parameter we can set and then we can make it slower
or faster as we wish. Don't forget to change the refresh code in line 163.
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On Fri, 28 Jun 2019 at 10:52, hh via use-livecode <
Is that different from a just plain crash?
> On Jun 28, 2019, at 5:52 AM, Paul Dupuis via use-livecode
> wrote:
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> On 6/28/2019 5:02 AM, Lagi Pittas via use-livecode wrote:
>> Crash To Desktop?
> Yes.
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Thanks. In that case I'm going back to an animated gif.
I'm not sure the spinner is a problem though, since the crashes only happen
while debugging.
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On June 28, 2019 4:54:24 AM hh via
I've not looked inside the OSX app bundle, but on Windows, the mainstack
and its substacks are built into the EXE. What I am calling an
"external" stack is a regular livecode stack, separate from the Windows
EXE that is opened by a script in the built standalone (EXE). As in:
open stack
Hello,
Is there a way to us LC shell to do commands as administrator?
thanks,
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Too funny. While I'm not so fond of either management or Crash, I'm glad I
started this thread.
On the whole though, freah crashes are better than canned.
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On June 28, 2019 11:16:31 AM Devin
On 6/28/19 10:21 AM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote:
Too funny. While I'm not so fond of either management or Crash, I'm glad
I started this thread.
On the whole though, freah crashes are better than canned.
Every crash is sacred.
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Hi.
So much fun. Change the handler to this:
local pointsListon mouseDown show btn 1 at "200,200" set the points of grc 1
to "0,0" & comma & the loc of btn 1 put the points of grc 1 into
pointsList trackButtonend mouseDown
on trackButton if the optionKey is down then exit to top -- exit
Do the same thing, but use a polygon and add points.
> On Jun 28, 2019, at 12:21 PM, General 2018 via use-livecode
> wrote:
>
> Hi ,
>
> Thanks , so nearly - I have a line that follows the object from the top left
> corner.
>
> What I need is just like drawing with a pen , the object being
On 6/28/2019 2:08 PM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote:
Paul Dupuis wrote:
> We have an app we're porting to LC9 (currently doing internal beta
> builds under LC9.0.5rc1) that we're seeing some weirdness when
> external stacks are opened by the standalone.
>
> This is happening under OSX.
On 6/28/2019 12:48 PM, Dar Scott Consulting via use-livecode wrote:
I don't know if this is related or not... I have seen the rectangle of the
window off by a similar amount when it overlaps the LiveCode IDE toolbar.
This is occurring in a a standalone, so I don't think the IDE toolbar is
There is a note on open process in the Dictionary that says that on OS X
systems you can start an application but not a Unix process, so I suppose the
LiveCode app intermediary must be needed. However, I have a vague memory of
running a CLI program from open process, but I don't remember how. I
Double click to stop drawing?
Rick
> On Jun 28, 2019, at 4:16 PM, dunbarx--- via use-livecode
> wrote:
>
> Not sure how you want to stop drawing. Let me know how you decide that.
> Craig
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What good have the crashes ever done to us?
Tore Nilsen
> 28. jun. 2019 kl. 19:40 skrev Mark Wieder via use-livecode
> :
>
> On 6/28/19 10:21 AM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote:
>> Too funny. While I'm not so fond of either management or Crash, I'm glad I
>> started this thread.
>> On
Thanks Matthias,
will check it out in a few days, because it is getting really hot here
you know. Tommorow i'll go to The Hague and sunday i will be probably
lying in my swimming pool the whole day in the backyard. It's not so big
but good enough (2x3mtr) :)
Ciao!
Jerry
Op 27-6-2019 om
Bad formatting. Which is why I so like the forums. Anywa:
local pointsList
on mouseDown
show btn 1 at "200,200"
set the points of grc 1 to "0,0" & comma & the loc of btn 1
put the points of grc 1 & return into pointsList
trackButton
end mouseDown
on trackButton
if the optionKey is
Oh that is interesting. Still, I can see one use case where separating them is
a good thing. There have been times I made a change to one or two substacks,
and only needed to replace the versions from the "Standalone" with the new
one(s). Also, if a stack is a part of the EXE, aren't the read
I don't know if this is related or not... I have seen the rectangle of the
window off by a similar amount when it overlaps the LiveCode IDE toolbar.
> On Jun 28, 2019, at 9:54 AM, Curry Kenworthy via use-livecode
> wrote:
>
>
> Paul:
>
> > LiveCode thinks the mouse is about 30-40 pixels
Paul Dupuis wrote:
> We have an app we're porting to LC9 (currently doing internal beta
> builds under LC9.0.5rc1) that we're seeing some weirdness when
> external stacks are opened by the standalone.
>
> This is happening under OSX. We've not seen it (so far) under Windows,
> but most of our
On 6/28/2019 1:23 PM, Glen Bojsza via use-livecode wrote:
Hello,
Is there a way to us LC shell to do commands as administrator?
thanks,
Glen
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On 6/28/19 10:35 AM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote:
I'm under the impression that in a standalone, ALL stacks besides the one in
the executable are external stacks. That is, the Standalone Builder will copy
any substacks to a folder as individual stacks. Even in a MacOS standalone, the
A million ways to escape. One could substitute this for the optionKey the line:
if the mouse is down then...end if
That assumes that the drawing is always done with the mouse held down. Not sure
about that. And since "send in time" releases control to the machine
constantly, one could add an
Hi ,
Thanks , so nearly - I have a line that follows the object from the top left
corner.
What I need is just like drawing with a pen , the object being the tip. Where
the object moves a line is drawn and remains like ink.
Regards
Camm
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Can't u do it your stack is run as administrator? and can't you force admin
permissions using the UAC control in standalone settings?
On Fri, Jun 28, 2019 at 2:54 PM Paul Dupuis via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> On 6/28/2019 1:23 PM, Glen Bojsza via use-livecode wrote:
>
Bob belabored,
> I thought ALL developers knew what that meant! :-)
Some of us just call it, “Damnit!”
9.5 is doing a *lot* of damniting . . .
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wrote:
>
> When the standalone opens the external stack (which could be in an older
> stack file format), when the mouse is in the external stack window, LiveCode
> thinks the mouse is about 30-40 pixels ABOVE where the mouse actual
dar delivered,
>
> There is a note on open process in the Dictionary that says that on OS X
> systems you can start an application but not a Unix process,
Tha’ts not right:
From the message box,
put shell("pwd")
Yields
/Applications/LiveCode Business 9.5.0 (dp 1).app
(Under Catalna)
Well, I wasn't expecting the Scripting, Edit, Save, Crash question.
Hahaa! Nobody suspects the Scripting, Edit, Save, Crash question.
Our chief weapon is SURPRISE...surprise and FEAR...fear and surprise
Our two weapons are fear and surprise...and RUTHLESS EFFICIENCY
Our *three* weapons
Paul Dupuis wrote:
> Thank you for possible conforming, but this is not seen in the IDE.
> Jut in the built Standalone. It is also very clear that LiveCode
> thinks the mouse is 20-40 pixels towards the top of the window than
> it actually is.
> If I want to click on a button, I don't put the
I can’t come up with a recipe for this one, either . . .
When using the group editor and cutting a subgroup, it seems not to lose all of
its information. I then paste back in, and it frequently becomes part of its
prior owner, and sometimes part of another group.
So if I edit group A, and
Dar delivered,
> Only those who write code that crashes. ;-)
Uhm, don’t all of us here use livecode?
4-5 times an hour for 9.5 at the moment . . . fortunately, I have an autosave
every 30 seconds when not in the group editor . . .
And I never did get 6 to stay up long enough to use (or to
On 6/28/2019 8:04 PM, doc hawk via use-livecode wrote:
On Jun 28, 2019, at 8:24 AM, Paul Dupuis via use-livecode
wrote:
When the standalone opens the external stack (which could be in an older stack
file format), when the mouse is in the external stack window, LiveCode thinks
the mouse is
I'm not sure it's the same thing but even on a single screen the app
browser gets out of sync. If you right click on the right hand pane and
select "refresh" it fixes itself. I see this frequently when editing groups.
The same thing happens, but less frequently, on the left hand side, like
On 6/28/2019 6:47 PM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote:
Also, if a stack is a part of the EXE, aren't the read only? In other words,
you cannot save things like properties by saving the stack?
Correct. But not a problem for our app as they are full desktop apps
that read and write a
J jbied,
> . It's not so big but good enough (2x3mtr) :)
I sure hope that that’s the pool and not the yard . . .
:)
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Ah, I neglected to emphasize "open process" in contrast with "shell".
> On Jun 28, 2019, at 6:30 PM, doc hawk via use-livecode
> wrote:
>
>
> dar delivered,
>>
>> There is a note on open process in the Dictionary that says that on OS X
>> systems you can start an application but not a Unix
Those are good reasons to separate the substacks from the mainstack. If you
don't plan to save changes to them, leave them attached. They open faster
that way, which is particularly noticeable on mobile.
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I thought ALL developers knew what that meant! :-)
Bob S
> On Jun 28, 2019, at 02:02 , Lagi Pittas via use-livecode
> wrote:
>
> Just in Case i'm the only one who doesn't have an official meaning of CTD.
>
> Can I ask, does it Mean Crash To Desktop?
>
> I searched the uselist and lo and
Ah. I looked it up. (Should have done that first.) A CTD is a crash without a
dialog box explaining the crash or even indicating a crash.
I have gotten that.
Recently in 9.5.0 DP1, the IDE got a memory error, then the crash reporter got
the same error, and then something else deeper got the
Like I said, ALL developers. :-)
Bob S
> On Jun 28, 2019, at 08:06 , Dar Scott Consulting via use-livecode
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> Only those who write code that crashes. ;-)
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We have an app we're porting to LC9 (currently doing internal beta
builds under LC9.0.5rc1) that we're seeing some weirdness when external
stacks are opened by the standalone.
This is happening under OSX. We've not seen it (so far) under Windows,
but most of our initial QA testing is done
Sent from my iPhone
> On Jun 28, 2019, at 11:17 AM, Curry Kenworthy via use-livecode
> wrote:
>
> Edit Script Save and Crash - it doesn't have as much crash in it as Crash
> Script Edit and Crash.
We do have some Crash, Edit script and Crash; Edit script, Crash, Save and
Crash; Crash,
Hmmm... I'm under the impression that in a standalone, ALL stacks besides the
one in the executable are external stacks. That is, the Standalone Builder will
copy any substacks to a folder as individual stacks. Even in a MacOS
standalone, the package that is the app can be opened and you will
Code To Die
On Fri, Jun 28, 2019 at 07:52 Bob Sneidar via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> I thought ALL developers knew what that meant! :-)
>
> Bob S
>
>
> > On Jun 28, 2019, at 02:02 , Lagi Pittas via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> >
> > Just in
Only those who write code that crashes. ;-)
> On Jun 28, 2019, at 8:52 AM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
> wrote:
>
> I thought ALL developers knew what that meant! :-)
>
> Bob S
>
>
>> On Jun 28, 2019, at 02:02 , Lagi Pittas via use-livecode
>> wrote:
>>
>> Just in Case i'm the only
Dar:
> Is that different from a just plain crash?
Anyone trying to abstain from crash (e) could try the Edit Script
Save and Crash - it doesn't have as much crash in it as Crash Script
Edit and Crash.
Best wishes,
Curry Kenworthy
Custom Software Development
"Better Methods, Better
As I grab my chest and stagger, I realize that I have been bumped up to
management.
> On Jun 28, 2019, at 9:09 AM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
> wrote:
>
> Like I said, ALL developers. :-)
>
> Bob S
>
>
>> On Jun 28, 2019, at 08:06 , Dar Scott Consulting via use-livecode
>> wrote:
>>
Paul:
> LiveCode thinks the mouse is about 30-40 pixels ABOVE where
> the mouse actual is.
I've seen something similar with the mouse clicking at an offset. Can't
recall the context at the moment, or whether any external stacks were
involved - but I'll let you know when I remember!
Best
On 6/28/19 8:30 AM, Martin Koob via use-livecode wrote:
Sent from my iPhone
On Jun 28, 2019, at 11:17 AM, Curry Kenworthy via use-livecode
wrote:
Edit Script Save and Crash - it doesn't have as much crash in it as Crash
Script Edit and Crash.
We do have some Crash, Edit script and
On 6/28/19 8:47 AM, Dar Scott Consulting via use-livecode wrote:
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I'm not sure that's "up".
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> On Jun 28, 2019, at 11:59 AM, Mark Wieder via use-livecode
> wrote:
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> On 6/28/19 8:30 AM, Martin Koob via use-livecode wrote:
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> On Jun 28, 2019, at 11:17 AM, Curry Kenworthy via use-livecode
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Edit Script Save and
>> On Jun 28, 2019, at 11:59 AM, Mark Wieder via use-livecode
>> wrote:
>>
>> On 6/28/19 8:30 AM, Martin Koob via use-livecode wrote:
>>> Sent from my iPhone
On Jun 28, 2019, at 11:17 AM, Curry Kenworthy via use-livecode
wrote:
Edit Script Save and Crash - it doesn't have
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