Re: Can't seem to build standalone in LC9.0.0

[Richard Gaskin via use-livecode]

Panos wrote:

> In the error msg I saw a reference to "openstack". In LC 9 (started in
> RC-1 I *think*) we no longer lock messages when building a standalone.
> This was necessary to fix other problems and it is mentioned in the
> 9.0.0 Release Notes under the section "Breaking Changes".

I'm sure there's a good reason for that, but it sounds like a world of 
hurt.  In fact, standalone building has long been more disruptive to the 
development workflow than it could be.


Any reason standalone building can't be done in a separate process?

That way we could keep our setup just how we like it while we're 
working, initiate the build, and not have the flashing of flying windows 
coming and going and re-inititializing our apps just to get something 
tested as a standalone.


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Re: Can't seem to build standalone in LC9.0.0

[William Prothero via use-livecode]

Panos:
That fixed it. Hmm… It seems like there are a lot more interactions between the 
IDE and the project, though. I haven’t decided yet if this is a good thing, or 
if it doesn’t matter.
Bill

> On Apr 6, 2018, at 11:06 PM, panagiotis merakos via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Bill,
> 
> In the error msg I saw a reference to "openstack". In LC 9 (started in RC-1
> I *think*) we no longer lock messages when building a standalone. This was
> necessary to fix other problems and it is mentioned in the 9.0.0 Release
> Notes under the section "Breaking Changes".
> 
> So I wild guess is that you get that error because when building the
> standalone one of these stacks receives the "openstack" message, and does
> things that should not be done while building a standalone. If this is the
> case, you can add this in the (pre)openstack handlers of your stacks:
> 
> on openstack
>   if the mode of stack "revStandaloneProgress" > 0 then
> exit openstack
>   end if
>  ..
>  ..
> end openstack
> 
> The same applies to "(pre)opencard", "closeStack".
> 
> Please let us know if this fixes the problem.
> 
> Best,
> Panos
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Re: Can't seem to build standalone in LC9.0.0

[prothero--- via use-livecode]

Pianos,
Thanks for the hint. I’m busy this morning, but will try your fix this 
afternoon and get back.
Best,
Bill

William Prothero
http://earthlearningsolutions.org

> On Apr 6, 2018, at 11:06 PM, panagiotis merakos via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Bill,
> 
> In the error msg I saw a reference to "openstack". In LC 9 (started in RC-1
> I *think*) we no longer lock messages when building a standalone. This was
> necessary to fix other problems and it is mentioned in the 9.0.0 Release
> Notes under the section "Breaking Changes".
> 
> So I wild guess is that you get that error because when building the
> standalone one of these stacks receives the "openstack" message, and does
> things that should not be done while building a standalone. If this is the
> case, you can add this in the (pre)openstack handlers of your stacks:
> 
> on openstack
>   if the mode of stack "revStandaloneProgress" > 0 then
> exit openstack
>   end if
>  ..
>  ..
> end openstack
> 
> The same applies to "(pre)opencard", "closeStack".
> 
> Please let us know if this fixes the problem.
> 
> Best,
> Panos
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Re: Can't seem to build standalone in LC9.0.0

[panagiotis merakos via use-livecode]

Hi Bill,

In the error msg I saw a reference to "openstack". In LC 9 (started in RC-1
I *think*) we no longer lock messages when building a standalone. This was
necessary to fix other problems and it is mentioned in the 9.0.0 Release
Notes under the section "Breaking Changes".

So I wild guess is that you get that error because when building the
standalone one of these stacks receives the "openstack" message, and does
things that should not be done while building a standalone. If this is the
case, you can add this in the (pre)openstack handlers of your stacks:

on openstack
   if the mode of stack "revStandaloneProgress" > 0 then
 exit openstack
   end if
  ..
  ..
end openstack

The same applies to "(pre)opencard", "closeStack".

Please let us know if this fixes the problem.

Best,
Panos
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Re: Can't seem to build standalone in LC9.0.0

[Brian Milby via use-livecode]

I can say it is more complicated than the number of LiveCode stacks though
(just built a 3 stack app as a test). Any idea where in the 9 release cycle
this became an issue? Someone that can parse the error screen that you
captured should be able to provide a better clue to the problem (especially
if it hangs at the same spot regardless of which files are included).
On Fri, Apr 6, 2018 at 10:46 PM prothero--- via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> Tom,
> I just captured the relevant dialogs and Windows on my Mac. Never owned a
> Commodore, but did write some machine language for a radio shack model 100
> once in the distant past.
>
> I was sooo (naively) trusting of the perfection of lc9 that it took me way
> too long to try the build on lc8.2.
>
> Best,
> Bill
>
> William Prothero
> http://earthlearningsolutions.org
>
> > On Apr 6, 2018, at 6:59 PM, Tom Glod via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> >
> > Glad you found a solution...I have to ask how did you get that
> > commodore 64 look on your screens?  It was awesome! :D :D: D  please
> > please try to report the bug and help the team find it.  software is a
> hard
> > hard problem.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Apr 6, 2018 at 8:59 PM, William Prothero via use-livecode <
> > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Found solution:
> >> Don’t use LC 9.0.0.
> >> When I add more than one “.livecode” stack in the “Stacks” list, I get
> the
> >> errors referred to in the original posting
> >> However, when I use LC 8.2.0 (DP 2), I get a standalone. No errors.
> >>
> >> I’ll see if I can make a sample stack and report this as a bug.
> >> Best,
> >> Bill
> >>
> >>> On Apr 6, 2018, at 5:45 PM, William Prothero via use-livecode <
> >> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> More info:
> >>> When I only have a single “.livecode” stack and multiple
> >> “.livecodescript” stacks in the “Stacks” list, it makes a standalone,
> but
> >> with more than one (it doesn’t matter which one), “.livecode” stack, it
> >> fails.
> >>>
> >>> This is starting to seem like a bug.
> >>>
> >>> Bill
> >>>
>  On Apr 6, 2018, at 4:59 PM, William Prothero via use-livecode <
> >> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> 
>  Folks:
>  This has me extremely frustrated and I’ve spent way too many hours
> >> trying to get this to work. If anybody has a few minutes to look at the
> >> error dialogs in the link, I’d very much appreciate it. I’m probably
> >> missing something very obvious, but ….
> 
>  Link to zip of 3 screen shots that show the problem.
> 
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/wipzyr9523h7n60/wp-standaloneDialogs.zip?dl=0
> >> <
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/wipzyr9523h7n60/wp-standaloneDialogs.zip?dl=0>
> 
>  What I have is a splash stack named: "Start Earth Explorer"
>  Other stacks are used to actually do the work. One of the dialogs
> >> (StacksList.png) is the standalone settings “Stacks” window, which
> shows a
> >> list of the stacks. Another dialog (filesStructure.png) is my file
> >> structure for the app. The third dialog (ErrorDialog.png) is the error
> >> dialog that I get when I try to build a standalone. It appears, to me,
> that
> >> somehow it can’t find the first “.livecode” stack it gets to in the
> stacks
> >> list.
> 
>  I must be doing something incredibly stupid, overlooking some basic
> >> setting, or ……
> 
>  Any ideas would be much appreciated.
> 
>  Thanks,
>  Bill
> 
> 
>  William A. Prothero
>  http://earthlearningsolutions.org
> 
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Re: Can't seem to build standalone in LC9.0.0

[prothero--- via use-livecode]

Tom,
I just captured the relevant dialogs and Windows on my Mac. Never owned a 
Commodore, but did write some machine language for a radio shack model 100 once 
in the distant past.

I was sooo (naively) trusting of the perfection of lc9 that it took me way too 
long to try the build on lc8.2.

Best,
Bill

William Prothero
http://earthlearningsolutions.org

> On Apr 6, 2018, at 6:59 PM, Tom Glod via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Glad you found a solution...I have to ask how did you get that
> commodore 64 look on your screens?  It was awesome! :D :D: D  please
> please try to report the bug and help the team find it.  software is a hard
> hard problem.
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, Apr 6, 2018 at 8:59 PM, William Prothero via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> 
>> Found solution:
>> Don’t use LC 9.0.0.
>> When I add more than one “.livecode” stack in the “Stacks” list, I get the
>> errors referred to in the original posting
>> However, when I use LC 8.2.0 (DP 2), I get a standalone. No errors.
>> 
>> I’ll see if I can make a sample stack and report this as a bug.
>> Best,
>> Bill
>> 
>>> On Apr 6, 2018, at 5:45 PM, William Prothero via use-livecode <
>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> More info:
>>> When I only have a single “.livecode” stack and multiple
>> “.livecodescript” stacks in the “Stacks” list, it makes a standalone, but
>> with more than one (it doesn’t matter which one), “.livecode” stack, it
>> fails.
>>> 
>>> This is starting to seem like a bug.
>>> 
>>> Bill
>>> 
 On Apr 6, 2018, at 4:59 PM, William Prothero via use-livecode <
>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
 
 Folks:
 This has me extremely frustrated and I’ve spent way too many hours
>> trying to get this to work. If anybody has a few minutes to look at the
>> error dialogs in the link, I’d very much appreciate it. I’m probably
>> missing something very obvious, but ….
 
 Link to zip of 3 screen shots that show the problem.
 https://www.dropbox.com/s/wipzyr9523h7n60/wp-standaloneDialogs.zip?dl=0
>> 
 
 What I have is a splash stack named: "Start Earth Explorer"
 Other stacks are used to actually do the work. One of the dialogs
>> (StacksList.png) is the standalone settings “Stacks” window, which shows a
>> list of the stacks. Another dialog (filesStructure.png) is my file
>> structure for the app. The third dialog (ErrorDialog.png) is the error
>> dialog that I get when I try to build a standalone. It appears, to me, that
>> somehow it can’t find the first “.livecode” stack it gets to in the stacks
>> list.
 
 I must be doing something incredibly stupid, overlooking some basic
>> setting, or ……
 
 Any ideas would be much appreciated.
 
 Thanks,
 Bill
 
 
 William A. Prothero
 http://earthlearningsolutions.org
 
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Re: Can't seem to build standalone in LC9.0.0

[Tom Glod via use-livecode]

Glad you found a solution...I have to ask how did you get that
commodore 64 look on your screens?  It was awesome! :D :D: D  please
please try to report the bug and help the team find it.  software is a hard
hard problem.



On Fri, Apr 6, 2018 at 8:59 PM, William Prothero via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> Found solution:
> Don’t use LC 9.0.0.
> When I add more than one “.livecode” stack in the “Stacks” list, I get the
> errors referred to in the original posting
> However, when I use LC 8.2.0 (DP 2), I get a standalone. No errors.
>
> I’ll see if I can make a sample stack and report this as a bug.
> Best,
> Bill
>
> > On Apr 6, 2018, at 5:45 PM, William Prothero via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> >
> > More info:
> > When I only have a single “.livecode” stack and multiple
> “.livecodescript” stacks in the “Stacks” list, it makes a standalone, but
> with more than one (it doesn’t matter which one), “.livecode” stack, it
> fails.
> >
> > This is starting to seem like a bug.
> >
> > Bill
> >
> >> On Apr 6, 2018, at 4:59 PM, William Prothero via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Folks:
> >> This has me extremely frustrated and I’ve spent way too many hours
> trying to get this to work. If anybody has a few minutes to look at the
> error dialogs in the link, I’d very much appreciate it. I’m probably
> missing something very obvious, but ….
> >>
> >> Link to zip of 3 screen shots that show the problem.
> >> https://www.dropbox.com/s/wipzyr9523h7n60/wp-standaloneDialogs.zip?dl=0
> 
> >>
> >> What I have is a splash stack named: "Start Earth Explorer"
> >> Other stacks are used to actually do the work. One of the dialogs
> (StacksList.png) is the standalone settings “Stacks” window, which shows a
> list of the stacks. Another dialog (filesStructure.png) is my file
> structure for the app. The third dialog (ErrorDialog.png) is the error
> dialog that I get when I try to build a standalone. It appears, to me, that
> somehow it can’t find the first “.livecode” stack it gets to in the stacks
> list.
> >>
> >> I must be doing something incredibly stupid, overlooking some basic
> setting, or ……
> >>
> >> Any ideas would be much appreciated.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Bill
> >>
> >>
> >> William A. Prothero
> >> http://earthlearningsolutions.org
> >>
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Re: Can't seem to build standalone in LC9.0.0

[William Prothero via use-livecode]

Found solution:
Don’t use LC 9.0.0.
When I add more than one “.livecode” stack in the “Stacks” list, I get the 
errors referred to in the original posting
However, when I use LC 8.2.0 (DP 2), I get a standalone. No errors.

I’ll see if I can make a sample stack and report this as a bug.
Best,
Bill

> On Apr 6, 2018, at 5:45 PM, William Prothero via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> More info:
> When I only have a single “.livecode” stack and multiple “.livecodescript” 
> stacks in the “Stacks” list, it makes a standalone, but with more than one 
> (it doesn’t matter which one), “.livecode” stack, it fails.
> 
> This is starting to seem like a bug.
> 
> Bill
> 
>> On Apr 6, 2018, at 4:59 PM, William Prothero via use-livecode 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Folks:
>> This has me extremely frustrated and I’ve spent way too many hours trying to 
>> get this to work. If anybody has a few minutes to look at the error dialogs 
>> in the link, I’d very much appreciate it. I’m probably missing something 
>> very obvious, but ….
>> 
>> Link to zip of 3 screen shots that show the problem.
>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/wipzyr9523h7n60/wp-standaloneDialogs.zip?dl=0 
>> 
>> 
>> What I have is a splash stack named: "Start Earth Explorer"
>> Other stacks are used to actually do the work. One of the dialogs 
>> (StacksList.png) is the standalone settings “Stacks” window, which shows a 
>> list of the stacks. Another dialog (filesStructure.png) is my file structure 
>> for the app. The third dialog (ErrorDialog.png) is the error dialog that I 
>> get when I try to build a standalone. It appears, to me, that somehow it 
>> can’t find the first “.livecode” stack it gets to in the stacks list. 
>> 
>> I must be doing something incredibly stupid, overlooking some basic setting, 
>> or ……
>> 
>> Any ideas would be much appreciated.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Bill
>> 
>> 
>> William A. Prothero
>> http://earthlearningsolutions.org
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Re: Can't seem to build standalone in LC9.0.0

[William Prothero via use-livecode]

More info:
When I only have a single “.livecode” stack and multiple “.livecodescript” 
stacks in the “Stacks” list, it makes a standalone, but with more than one (it 
doesn’t matter which one), “.livecode” stack, it fails.

This is starting to seem like a bug.

Bill

> On Apr 6, 2018, at 4:59 PM, William Prothero via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Folks:
> This has me extremely frustrated and I’ve spent way too many hours trying to 
> get this to work. If anybody has a few minutes to look at the error dialogs 
> in the link, I’d very much appreciate it. I’m probably missing something very 
> obvious, but ….
> 
> Link to zip of 3 screen shots that show the problem.
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/wipzyr9523h7n60/wp-standaloneDialogs.zip?dl=0 
> 
> 
> What I have is a splash stack named: "Start Earth Explorer"
> Other stacks are used to actually do the work. One of the dialogs 
> (StacksList.png) is the standalone settings “Stacks” window, which shows a 
> list of the stacks. Another dialog (filesStructure.png) is my file structure 
> for the app. The third dialog (ErrorDialog.png) is the error dialog that I 
> get when I try to build a standalone. It appears, to me, that somehow it 
> can’t find the first “.livecode” stack it gets to in the stacks list. 
> 
> I must be doing something incredibly stupid, overlooking some basic setting, 
> or ……
> 
> Any ideas would be much appreciated.
> 
> Thanks,
> Bill
> 
> 
> William A. Prothero
> http://earthlearningsolutions.org
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Can't seem to build standalone in LC9.0.0

[William Prothero via use-livecode]

Folks:
This has me extremely frustrated and I’ve spent way too many hours trying to 
get this to work. If anybody has a few minutes to look at the error dialogs in 
the link, I’d very much appreciate it. I’m probably missing something very 
obvious, but ….

Link to zip of 3 screen shots that show the problem.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/wipzyr9523h7n60/wp-standaloneDialogs.zip?dl=0 


What I have is a splash stack named: "Start Earth Explorer"
Other stacks are used to actually do the work. One of the dialogs 
(StacksList.png) is the standalone settings “Stacks” window, which shows a list 
of the stacks. Another dialog (filesStructure.png) is my file structure for the 
app. The third dialog (ErrorDialog.png) is the error dialog that I get when I 
try to build a standalone. It appears, to me, that somehow it can’t find the 
first “.livecode” stack it gets to in the stacks list. 

I must be doing something incredibly stupid, overlooking some basic setting, or 
……

Any ideas would be much appreciated.

Thanks,
Bill


William A. Prothero
http://earthlearningsolutions.org

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