Re: Interview wtth inventor of hypercard Bill Atkinson

2017-10-20 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Richmond Mathewson write: > RunRev did buy Metacard, but not at the start. > > I believe (this is where Heather can put us ALL straight) RunRev was > initially designed as an alternative interface (front-end/GUI) to the > MeatCard one. Heather's asleep, so maybe I can help: MetaCard premiered

Re: Interview wtth inventor of hypercard Bill Atkinson

2017-10-20 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Hmmm... I find the basis of the article somewhat simplistic. I suppose you could go back far enough with anything, and say it is an old idea produced in a new way. For instance, the dissemination of information via writing has been around for millenia, but someone made a way to do it

Re: Interview wtth inventor of hypercard Bill Atkinson

2017-10-20 Thread Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode
A lot of what he is talking about here is what they are now calling Machine Learning. I didn't 'fully' understand how this worked. But a few paragraphs from Mr Atkinson here helped me immensely. I'm all the better for it. Thanks, Bill, on so many levels. Sean Cole *Pi Digital Productions Ltd*

Re: Interview wtth inventor of hypercard Bill Atkinson

2017-10-20 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
On 10/20/17 12:36 PM, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode wrote: For every single Shakespeare play barring "The Merry Wives of Windsor" there is a play that Shakespeare "ripped-off". So, does that make him a plagiarist and a prize plonker? Plagiarism is a direct copy, or one similar enough

Re: Interview wtth inventor of hypercard Bill Atkinson

2017-10-20 Thread Alejandro Tejada via use-livecode
By the way, according to this article, we already knew which could be the next breakthrough in technological progress... but, we don't know who will pour their blood, sweat and tears to build and sell it to the people. https://zurb.com/blog/the-next-big-innovation-it-s-already-10-o On Fri, Oct

Re: Interview wtth inventor of hypercard Bill Atkinson

2017-10-20 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
RunRev did buy Metacard, but not at the start. I believe (this is where Heather can put us ALL straight) RunRev was initially designed as an alternative interface (front-end/GUI) to the MeatCard one. I don't think RunRev ever plagiarised, especially as they always gave credit to Metacard.

Re: Interview wtth inventor of hypercard Bill Atkinson

2017-10-20 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Actually, RunRev BOUGHT Metacard didn't they? So they owned it, which is why that is not plagiarism. But saying that a pure copy is the only form that can be called plagiarism doesn't hold water in a court of law. If it can be shown that enough sections of code are identical in form and

Re: Interview wtth inventor of hypercard Bill Atkinson

2017-10-20 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
Ah widnae channer owermuch anent that Sudron is thon secont leid, monie o us hae it as war secont leid, forbye. I would not fuss a lot that English is your second language, a lot of us have it as our second language as well. An, eftir monie a towmond abune the Kinrick, Ah mynd Bulgarian is mair

Re: Interview wtth inventor of hypercard Bill Atkinson

2017-10-20 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
For every single Shakespeare play barring "The Merry Wives of Windsor" there is a play that Shakespeare "ripped-off". So, does that make him a plagiarist and a prize plonker? No, it doesn't, for the simple reason that the plays he ripped-off had crap dialogues and were second or third-rate:

Re: Interview wtth inventor of hypercard Bill Atkinson

2017-10-19 Thread Tom Glod via use-livecode
I wasn't aware that there was objections and controversies when it comes to this everything has a deeper history than just the surface I guess. Forgive my ignorance on the subject. Gonna leave this skeleton right where it is though. On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 4:48 PM, Mike Kerner via

Re: Interview wtth inventor of hypercard Bill Atkinson

2017-10-19 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
Wasn't yesterday VisiCalc's birthday? If ever there was a case of IP ripoff, it was that one. On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 4:24 PM, Alejandro Tejada via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Tom Glod wrote: > > Here is a great interview with Bill. in which he reveals > >