Re: Message watcher and selectionChanged

[Mark Wieder via use-livecode]

On 7/6/20 3:39 PM, Mark Talluto via use-livecode wrote:


You know you have arrived when there are forks of your works in the wild.


Trust the forks, Luke...

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Re: Message watcher and selectionChanged

[Mark Talluto via use-livecode]

On Jul 6, 2020, at 2:05 PM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode 
 wrote:
> 
> Mark Talluto wrote:
> 
> > You might try Richard Gaskin’s ‘Flight Recorder’. I use it all the
> > time.
> > You can get it from his site at:
> > https://www.fourthworld.com/livecode/index.html
> >
> > I have a modified version that includes a performance boost that I am
> > not sure are part of the original distribution.
> > http://www.canelasoftware.com/pub/canela/4W_FlightRecorder.rev.zip
> 
> I was unaware that forks of my tool were being distributed, so I could not 
> have incorporated any change requests.
> 
> I'll find the diffs and incorporate them into the master at my site this week.
> 
> Thank you for the enhancement, and for letting me know about it.

You know you have arrived when there are forks of your works in the wild. 
I do not remember the changes I made. I’ll look up the email I sent you. In all 
fairness, it was many years ago. 
I know you are a busy developer with a full life.

I’ll dig up the original email and fire it over to you.

Best regards,

Mark Talluto
livecloud.io 
nursenotes.net 
canelasoftware.com 

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Re: Message watcher and selectionChanged

[Richard Gaskin via use-livecode]

Mark Talluto wrote:

> You might try Richard Gaskin’s ‘Flight Recorder’. I use it all the
> time.
> You can get it from his site at:
> https://www.fourthworld.com/livecode/index.html
>
> I have a modified version that includes a performance boost that I am
> not sure are part of the original distribution.
> http://www.canelasoftware.com/pub/canela/4W_FlightRecorder.rev.zip

I was unaware that forks of my tool were being distributed, so I could 
not have incorporated any change requests.


I'll find the diffs and incorporate them into the master at my site this 
week.


Thank you for the enhancement, and for letting me know about it.

--
 Richard Gaskin
 Fourth World Systems
 Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web
 
 ambassa...@fourthworld.comhttp://www.FourthWorld.com


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Re: Message watcher and selectionChanged

[Mark Talluto via use-livecode]

On Jul 6, 2020, at 9:41 AM, Alex Tweedly via use-livecode 
 wrote:
> 
> 
> On 06/07/2020 17:19, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote:
>> There's a button at the lower right of the window that allows you to select 
>> which messages are suppressed. The default is to suppress unused messages 
>> but you can change that. IDE messages aren't shown by default either and you 
>> can add your own if you want.
>> 
> Thanks Jacqueline.
> 
> I tried that button, and it tells me (or seems to tell me) that the only 
> 'suppressed' message is 'mousemove' (and it doesn't mention 'unused' at all - 
> only 'handled' and 'not handled' - and neither of those is selected as 
> suppressed). So it's a confusing 'default'.
> 
> Now that I know, I will always test with a handler rather than assuming the 
> Watcher is telling the truth.
> 
> (Hmmm - that last line feels like I'm in an episode of Buffy, or Once Upon a 
> Time, or ... :-)
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Alex.

Alex,

You might try Richard Gaskin’s ‘Flight Recorder’. I use it all the time. 
You can get it from his site at:  
https://www.fourthworld.com/livecode/index.html 


I have a modified version that includes a performance boost that I am not sure 
are part of the original distribution.
http://www.canelasoftware.com/pub/canela/4W_FlightRecorder.rev.zip 



Best regards,

Mark Talluto
livecloud.io 
nursenotes.net 
canelasoftware.com 

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Re: Message watcher and selectionChanged

[J. Landman Gay via use-livecode]

On 7/6/20 11:41 AM, Alex Tweedly via use-livecode wrote:


On 06/07/2020 17:19, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote:
There's a button at the lower right of the window that allows you to select which messages 
are suppressed. The default is to suppress unused messages but you can change that. IDE 
messages aren't shown by default either and you can add your own if you want.



Thanks Jacqueline.

I tried that button, and it tells me (or seems to tell me) that the only 'suppressed' message 
is 'mousemove' (and it doesn't mention 'unused' at all - only 'handled' and 'not handled' - and 
neither of those is selected as suppressed). So it's a confusing 'default'.


Now that I know, I will always test with a handler rather than assuming the Watcher is telling 
the truth.


(Hmmm - that last line feels like I'm in an episode of Buffy, or Once Upon a 
Time, or ... :-)


"Unused" = "not handled" when I'm not at the Mac to look. ;)

I just did a short test with "not handled" unchecked and I'm getting messages for things like 
resumeStack, openField, focusOut, etc. which have no supporting handlers in my scripts. I 
wonder if the messages you want to track are considered part of the (suppressed) IDE messages? 
Hard to say.


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HyperActive Software   | http://www.hyperactivesw.com

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Re: Message watcher and selectionChanged

[J. Landman Gay via use-livecode]

By the way, I'd keep mouseMove in the blocked messages or else the whole 
window will fill up and bump the stuff you do want to see off the top.


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Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com
HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com
On July 6, 2020 11:21:40 AM "J. Landman Gay via use-livecode" 
 wrote:



There's a button at the lower right of the window that allows you to select
which messages are suppressed. The default is to suppress unused messages
but you can change that. IDE messages aren't shown by default either and
you can add your own if you want.

--
Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com
HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com
On July 6, 2020 8:34:17 AM Alex Tweedly via use-livecode
 wrote:


I was using the Message Watcher in the IDE to check on which messages
were sent in different cases, and noticed that:

'selectionChanged' was not being reported when I changed the selection
or insertion point within a field.

BUT if I add a 'selectionChanged' handler to the field, the handler is
called, and the Message Watcher THEN does report it.

Does that seem right ?

Should messages only be reported if they are being checked for somewhere ?

-- Alex.

P.S. or if anyone wants to answer the *real* question :
   does anyone have a general purpose 'undo/redo' handler-set for text
fields that they could share :-) ?


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Re: Message watcher and selectionChanged

[Alex Tweedly via use-livecode]

On 06/07/2020 17:19, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote:
There's a button at the lower right of the window that allows you to 
select which messages are suppressed. The default is to suppress 
unused messages but you can change that. IDE messages aren't shown by 
default either and you can add your own if you want.



Thanks Jacqueline.

I tried that button, and it tells me (or seems to tell me) that the only 
'suppressed' message is 'mousemove' (and it doesn't mention 'unused' at 
all - only 'handled' and 'not handled' - and neither of those is 
selected as suppressed). So it's a confusing 'default'.


Now that I know, I will always test with a handler rather than assuming 
the Watcher is telling the truth.


(Hmmm - that last line feels like I'm in an episode of Buffy, or Once 
Upon a Time, or ... :-)


Thanks

Alex.


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Re: Message watcher and selectionChanged

[J. Landman Gay via use-livecode]

There's a button at the lower right of the window that allows you to select 
which messages are suppressed. The default is to suppress unused messages 
but you can change that. IDE messages aren't shown by default either and 
you can add your own if you want.


--
Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com
HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com
On July 6, 2020 8:34:17 AM Alex Tweedly via use-livecode 
 wrote:



I was using the Message Watcher in the IDE to check on which messages
were sent in different cases, and noticed that:

'selectionChanged' was not being reported when I changed the selection
or insertion point within a field.

BUT if I add a 'selectionChanged' handler to the field, the handler is
called, and the Message Watcher THEN does report it.

Does that seem right ?

Should messages only be reported if they are being checked for somewhere ?

-- Alex.

P.S. or if anyone wants to answer the *real* question :
   does anyone have a general purpose 'undo/redo' handler-set for text
fields that they could share :-) ?


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