Re: place a group that is not on a card

2002-12-29 Thread Geoff Canyon
I just tested this in 1.1.1, and it worked. Exactly how are you trying to place the group? If you're scripting using the message box, you need to refer to it using the background keyword. On Saturday, December 28, 2002, at 03:55 PM, Dar Scott wrote: I removed a group from all cards it was on.

Re: Re[7]: groups and background

2002-12-29 Thread Geoff Canyon
On Saturday, December 28, 2002, at 03:15 PM, Dar Scott wrote: A group may have its backgroundBehavior property set to true. Such a group introduces interesting paths on any card it is on. This group is also placed on new cards under some conditions. The card/stack property backgroundNames

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2002-12-29 Thread Robert Presender
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Re: [OT] winmail.dat

2002-12-29 Thread Rob Cozens
Does MS even read the SMTP spec? (I know, I know, Microsoft and specification should never be used in the same sentence g). Specifications? We don't have any specifications. We don't need to follow specifications. We don't have to show you any stinking specifications: We're Microsoft...We

Re: [OT] winmail.dat

2002-12-29 Thread Jan Schenkel
--- Rob Cozens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does MS even read the SMTP spec? (I know, I know, Microsoft and specification should never be used in the same sentence g). Specifications? We don't have any specifications. We don't need to follow specifications. We don't have to show you

Re: Re[7]: groups and background

2002-12-29 Thread Jan Schenkel
--- Rob Cozens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You mean you can place a group across mutiple cards without having the backgroundBehavior set? One can place any group on any existing card. BackgroundBehavior just determines whether the group is automatically placed on each new card that is

Re: setting pointer location

2002-12-29 Thread Rob Cozens
Why modeless instead of modal dialogs? Alan, David, et al: My initial thought was to use modal dialogs, as one goal is to prevent the user from visiting other portions of the app until the input process is completed. OTOH, a modeless dialog would allow the user to, for example, copy/paste

Re: Re[7]: groups and background

2002-12-29 Thread Mark Swindell
on 12/29/02 7:39 AM, Rob Cozens at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You mean you can place a group across mutiple cards without having the backgroundBehavior set? One can place any group on any existing card. BackgroundBehavior just determines whether the group is automatically placed on each new

Re: setting pointer location

2002-12-29 Thread Bill Vlahos
Here is an altogether different approach to solving the original measured response problem. Use a different input method. I don't know if this program is for general distribution or for a specific center. You could either use a touchscreen or trackpad with a template. Trackpads cost less than

RE: [OT] winmail.dat

2002-12-29 Thread Chipp Walters
Jan, Are you talking about Microsoft...or Apple? ;-) http://developer.apple.com/techpubs/macos8/Legacy/legacy.html You forgot the part where they go Of course we can change our minds at random. And then you have a new standard. Until we change our minds again, that is. Jan Schenkel.

RE: [OT] winmail.dat

2002-12-29 Thread Jan Schenkel
Hehehe, I guess we're all a bit guilty about doing that ; whenever we update our software, there's usually something we change -- hopefully for the better, right? But whereas at Microsoft (and Sun as well, when it comes to Java) the drones seem to run off in different directions constantly with

Re: Groups and backgrounds

2002-12-29 Thread J. Landman Gay
Jim Hurley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This awesome probing of the deep and wondrous mysteries of groups suggest to me that this accomplished assembly of programmers might consider turning their talents to another group mystery that has plagued mankind for centuries: The mystery of the

Re: Groups and backgrounds

2002-12-29 Thread Rob Cozens
I suppose one could assume that God's backgroundBehavior is always set to true, Jacque, Jim, et al: Does this affect the message hierarchy among the Trinity? -- Rob Cozens CCW, Serendipity Software Company http://www.oenolog.com/who.htm And I, which was two fooles, do so grow three; Who are a

Re: Groups and backgrounds

2002-12-29 Thread Klaus Major
Hi Jaqueline, Jim Hurley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This awesome probing of the deep and wondrous mysteries of groups suggest to me that this accomplished assembly of programmers might consider turning their talents to another group mystery that has plagued mankind for centuries: The

Re: Groups and backgrounds

2002-12-29 Thread Björnke von Gierke
On Sonntag, Dez 29, 2002, at 18:52 Europe/Zurich, J. Landman Gay wrote: Jim Hurley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This awesome probing of the deep and wondrous mysteries of groups suggest to me that this accomplished assembly of programmers might consider turning their talents to another group

Re: Groups and backgrounds

2002-12-29 Thread Jan Schenkel
--- Björnke_von_Gierke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sonntag, Dez 29, 2002, at 18:52 Europe/Zurich, J. Landman Gay wrote: Jim Hurley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This awesome probing of the deep and wondrous mysteries of groups suggest to me that this accomplished assembly of

Re: Re[7]: groups and background

2002-12-29 Thread Dar Scott
On Sunday, December 29, 2002, at 02:43 AM, Geoff Canyon wrote: A group may have its backgroundBehavior property set to true. Such a group introduces interesting paths on any card it is on. This group is also placed on new cards under some conditions. The card/stack property

Re: Re[7]: groups and background

2002-12-29 Thread Dar Scott
On Sunday, December 29, 2002, at 12:26 PM, Dar Scott wrote: A group may be removed from all cards but still exist in the stack. Getting the owner of such a stack creates an error. Yikes! The owner is the stack. And the stack is next in its path. I had somehow corrupted the stack with some

What makes arrow keys work?

2002-12-29 Thread Dar Scott
How do arrow keys work? Is this the engine or some script? After I click in a group the arrow keys do not work. Maybe this is related to my arrow-key-in-TD problems. Dar Scott ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: place a group that is not on a card

2002-12-29 Thread Dar Scott
On Sunday, December 29, 2002, at 02:17 AM, Geoff Canyon wrote: I just tested this in 1.1.1, and it worked. Exactly how are you trying to place the group? If you're scripting using the message box, you need to refer to it using the background keyword. On Saturday, December 28, 2002, at 03:55

Re: [OT] winmail.dat

2002-12-29 Thread Wolfgang M. Bereuter
On Sonntag, Dezember 29, 2002, at 06:22 Uhr, Chipp Walters wrote: Are you talking about Microsoft...or Apple? ;-) http://developer.apple.com/techpubs/macos8/Legacy/legacy.html ?? regards Wolfgang M. Bereuter Learn easy with trainingsmaps© INTERNETTRAINER Wolfgang M. Bereuter

Re: Groups and backgrounds

2002-12-29 Thread Wolfgang M. Bereuter
On Sonntag, Dezember 29, 2002, at 06:52 Uhr, J. Landman Gay wrote: The mystery of the trinity, the grouping of three Persons in one God. I'm sure you could resolve this much simpler mystery in short order. It depends on whether God is placed on the card or not. I suppose one could assume

Re: What makes arrow keys work?

2002-12-29 Thread Jan Schenkel
--- Dar Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How do arrow keys work? Is this the engine or some script? After I click in a group the arrow keys do not work. Maybe this is related to my arrow-key-in-TD problems. I'm not sure I'm catching your drift here: are you referring to the ability to

OCX e/o VCL

2002-12-29 Thread Tony Di Berardino
A colleague asked me if Rev can use OCX and/or VCL. (terms that sincerely I don't understand) Thanks in advance Antonio Di Berardino ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution

Re: setting pointer location

2002-12-29 Thread Rob Cozens
An off-the-wall thought: Using dialogs for field input allows those who don't want to (by script) move the pointer over the button to instead move the button under the pointer using intelligent dialog positioning. -- Rob Cozens CCW, Serendipity Software Company http://www.oenolog.com/who.htm

RE: OCX e/o VCL

2002-12-29 Thread Chipp Walters
OCX and VCL are precursors to ActiveX on the Windows platform. They are small libraries which provide extensibility to other programs. Probably what he was referring to was whether Rev is extensible via custom C DLL's. Yes it is, but one has to write the correct interfaces for it to work. There

Re: setting pointer location

2002-12-29 Thread Alan Gayne
Just so Rob. I think of it as similar to the interview feature in programs such as Tax Cut, which is a perfect example of what I previously referred to as a data critical situation. Alan Gayne On Sunday, December 29, 2002, at 06:10 PM, Rob Cozens wrote: An off-the-wall thought: Using

What causes pause when pinging?

2002-12-29 Thread RGould8
I've got a revolution app that does a simple do field "runscript" as Applescript and then that field has: shell "ping -c 1 www.apple.com" I then take the result and display it. The question I have is that sometimes this call takes a very long time. (15-20 seconds). Part of the reason I'm

Re: Underlined characters in button label?

2002-12-29 Thread Howard Bornstein
Is it possible to format button label text so that only a few letters of the label are underlined? It seems to be all or nothing, but I'd like to be able to have a standard button with a label like black with just the bl underlined. I don't think it's possible using the textStyle property of a

Rounding off things...

2002-12-29 Thread Matt Denton
Hello Dear List, I'm just trying to Round off my year... so pardon me if I'm w-ong but: put round(-0.1) Shouldn't that return 0 and not -0?? -0 is what? The smallest point ever imaginable beyond 0 in the negative direction? Is this a bug or should I dig out my old school books? I

Re: What causes pause when pinging?

2002-12-29 Thread Alex Rice
On Sunday, December 29, 2002, at 08:11 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: shell ping -c 1 www.apple.com I then take the result and display it.  The question I have is that sometimes this call takes a very long time. (15-20 seconds).  I don't know what the delay could be. Maybe the DNS lookup for

Re: What causes pause when pinging?

2002-12-29 Thread Troy Rollins
On Sunday, December 29, 2002, at 11:42 PM, Alex Rice wrote: I then take the result and display it.  The question I have is that sometimes this call takes a very long time. (15-20 seconds).  I don't know what the delay could be. Maybe the DNS lookup for www.apple.com? We use a similar

Re: Underlined characters in button label?

2002-12-29 Thread Manuel Companys
Le dimanche, 29 déc 2002, à 21:57 US/Central, Howard Bornstein a écrit : Is it possible to format button label text so that only a few letters of the label are underlined? It seems to be all or nothing, but I'd like to be able to have a standard button with a label like black with just the

Re: Rounding off things...

2002-12-29 Thread David Vaughan
On Monday, Dec 30, 2002, at 15:28 Australia/Sydney, Matt Denton wrote: Hello Dear List, I'm just trying to Round off my year... so pardon me if I'm w-ong but: put round(-0.1) Shouldn't that return 0 and not -0?? -0 is what? The smallest point ever imaginable beyond 0 in the negative