And *why* did Apple drop something as useful as the Map control panel?
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-Mark
For the same reason the geeks from NEXT got not invented here
syndrome, fired Tog and the Human Interface Group, and changed about
200 conventions and features that worked real well.
I really despise what
Doug,
the properties returns an associative array, perhaps you were
treating it as a string?
Check out the following- with the recent CVS thread going on here, I
banged out this script to convince myself that textual representations
of stacks weren't too bad. There's a bunch of stuff in here,
Interesting. In his script (below) do you see what restricts the
images from
being dragged just to the image area, etc?
on dragenter
set the acceptdrop to true
## otherwise you could not drop anything... :-(
end dragenter
on dragdrop
put the dragdata
### just put the path into the msg
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Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2004 22:42:42 -0500
From: Thomas McGrath III [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Sticky palettes
I have this stack that does it. BUT i used someone else's code and
butchered it to suit my needs. It works. That is
Back again,
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2004 22:42:42 -0500
From: Thomas McGrath III [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Sticky palettes
I have this stack that does it.
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P.S.
I pretty much have to reject the other suggested alternative, which is a
smoke-and-mirrors workaround. I can make it do
Hi Scott,
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2004 21:05:39 -0800
From: Scott Rossi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Sticky palettes
Let me change the question: Can I poll a window's location as I drag it by
its titlebar?
You can if you create you own titlebar.
--
Well, you're right, and I thought
Ken, You know I applaud your efforts already with working with the
disabled on 'your little island'. I too find it to be the most
rewarding thin that I do, aside from maybe my art work which I use to
open everyones eyes to the beauty and magnificance around us.
Magnificance? Magnificness?
Thanks, everyone. A few more questions (sorry!)
1) Judy, were you able to buy just the electronic edition of volume 1
at the $37 price or did you end up buying all 3 volumes at once? I was
looking for volume 1 electronic edition only since my development
budget is strapped right now and the
Hi Ken
Subject: Re: Sticky palettes
...
Ken N.
just a thought:
Did you check the movestack message?
Might be helpful in your case...
You could script this to dock your things back to the mainwindow
after the user moved it around his screen...
Regards
Klaus Major
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I understand Ken,
In my stack (which I got the code from Scott) the reader can be dragged
away from the main but if the main is moved then it follows it.
Maybe a send in time to check the position of the main window might
help
Oh Well
Good luck
Tom
On Feb 14, 2004, at 3:51 AM, Ken Norris
Ken
If I remember there is a choice in the DB that let's you do this (or
not do this).
Tom
On Feb 14, 2004, at 2:34 AM, Doug Lerner wrote:
I believe if you just open them all up you can then, in the Inspector,
just
set the mainStack for each one.
doug
On 2/14/04 4:20 PM, Ken Norris [EMAIL
Ken,
The stack I gave does work in Windows?!?!
But yes it is a little more work to do...
Tom
On Feb 14, 2004, at 4:11 AM, Ken Norris wrote:
Back again,
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2004 22:42:42 -0500
From: Thomas McGrath III [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Sticky palettes
I have this stack that does
OS 9
I am not sure of the best way to bundle this for distribution, because the
app needs to preserve its macbinary resource fork. What do people use for
this so they can distribute it?
Hi Doug,
I use a MacBinary self-expanding Stuffit! archive.
--
Rob Cozens
CCW, Serendipity Software
What sounds are built into REV(such as beep) and where can we get other
sounds to import into stacks?
Jack
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Ken Norris wrote:
The drawer thing is pretty neat too, but
probably the wrong metaphor for my purposes. I want to do the UI for
convenience, but yet not show them unfamiliar stuff.
The tougher thing about drawers is that they're OS X-specific; there is no
corollary in other OSes.
But I found
On Feb 14, 2004, at 3:37 AM, Ryno Swart wrote:
And anybody on this else who is active in art, music, animation,
scriptwriting, poetry, dance?
I am into art, music and animation. Learning to illustrate again, I
used to be OK when I was younger.
My absolute favorite art program is Expression3
On Feb 13, 2004, at 9:35 PM, Judy Perry wrote:
I bought it about a week ago. I think I had within a 1-day
turnaround...
But I can't find a Kinko's to print out and bind the d*mned thing!
Post if you find a good solution. There has got to be a service online
somewhere that does binding of
Yes, I didn't see the way to get just vol. 1 (although, now that I think
about it and am looking at it, the pdf file does indeed say
RevBookVol1.pdfr ... hmmm..., where are my other volumes?!)
$97. Sorry that this doesn't help :(
Judy
On Sat, 14 Feb 2004, Marian Petrides wrote:
Thanks,
No joke! It was going to cost me nearly $50 to get it printed and bound IF
only they'd had the most recent copy of Reader...
I'll let you know if I find anything...
Judy
On Sat, 14 Feb 2004, Alex Rice wrote:
But I can't find a Kinko's to print out and bind the d*mned thing!
Post if you
If you use the Shakobox workaround, you have access to the boatload of QT
musical instruments.
Apple's also got some free sound downloads for use with iMovie.
Judy
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What sounds are built into REV(such as beep) and where can we get other
sounds to
You might try XMenu as an in-bar applications/document menu plugin.
it works well.
http://www.devon-technologies.com/download.php
Yours,
Chris
On Feb 14, 2004, at 2:24 AM, Stephen Quinn Barncard wrote:
And *why* did Apple drop something as useful as the Map control panel?
--
-Mark
. I
I suggested to a customer that a new family of programs in their
product be implemented in Revolution. The customer did (at some level)
consider Revolution, but decided to go with Qt.
How would folks here compare these?
Dar Scott
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On Feb 14, 2004, at 10:59 AM, Dar Scott wrote:
I suggested to a customer that a new family of programs in their
product be implemented in Revolution. The customer did (at some
level) consider Revolution, but decided to go with Qt.
How would folks here compare these?
QT = Quicktime or the
Richard Gaskin wrote:
Devin Asay wrote:
Does anyone know how to set the most commonly-used browsers in OS X to
automatically launch a rev stack (with Rev or some compiled Rev
launcher app) when it is clicked on in a web page? I want to be able to
have a user click on a stack link in my web
On Feb 14, 2004, at 1:24 AM, Stephen Quinn Barncard wrote:
I hate the way the windows work, and the loss of the Applications
menu...
Try LaunchBar- you'll never wish for a menu again
http://www.obdev.at/products/launchbar/index.html
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Maybe I'm missing something, but can't you just print it on your laser
printer (or a laser printer at work) and then take it to Kinko's for
binding? I've had them do spiral binding for me in the past and it
cost under $5, probably more like $2-3.
Are there color photos in the PDF that require
Hi Jack,
Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2004 10:30:57 EST
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: sounds
What sounds are built into REV(such as beep) and where can we get other
sounds to import into stacks?
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Generally, I don't think sounds aren't built in because of crossplatform
handling rules.
On Saturday, February 14, 2004, at 08:30 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What sounds are built into REV(such as beep) and where can we get other
sounds to import into stacks?
The beep command seems to use the current system beep sound. The
behavior is platform dependent. Well, it was last I
In SC there is a cool function called dragWindow wherein you
can get one window (in this case a palette window) to stick
to another window, i.e., when you drag the one, the other
sticks to it in the designated position.
Ken, dragWindow in SC is just a message sent ot the current window
Let me change the question: Can I poll a window's location as
I drag it by its titlebar?
You can in Windows by trapping the moveStack message. Unfortunately you
only get the window's location on the Mac after you release the mouse.
Ken Ray
Sons of Thunder Software
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Web
3. As a special promo for MacWorld only, I allowed RunRev to sell
copies of the first volume in eBook form for $37. That offer has now
expired.
Speaking of that, someone ought to change RunRev's main page that still
talks about MacWorld and the eBook promo. It's over a month old now and
Perhaps Kinko's will get better - FEDEX just bought the company.
Post if you find a good solution. There has got to be a service
online somewhere that does binding of color PDFs. I usually get
terrible service at Kinko's, and if you use their DIY workstations,
often they are crashed or virus
Hi all
I thought I read that rev can read and write to a pdb file.
Is this correct and where can I get more info?
Cheers
bob
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Which it did--that's where my confusion came from. I kept looking for
the $37 individual e-book.
Thanks for the clarification, Dan. Still a tough choice (buy hardcopy
and wait for delivery vs buy all three as e-books but then have to
print them all myself) but a worthwhile one--from what
On Saturday, February 14, 2004, at 12:47 PM, Bob Hartley wrote:
I thought I read that rev can read and write to a pdb file.
Chemistry files? Palm files?
Dar Scott
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On Saturday, February 14, 2004, at 12:57 PM, Dar Scott wrote:
I thought I read that rev can read and write to a pdb file.
Chemistry files? Palm files?
I'm an idiot. The answer is in the subject. And I'm just adding more
noise...
Dar Scott
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Palm Database Viewer was written by Lars Lewejohann. I don't know much
about it because it was v.0.01beta when I it was announced on this list (I
still have it). The about box has links to http://www.phwnotyping.com and
http://www.tiny-red-book.com I hope this helps.
Roger Eller
Oops! I mis-typed that first link. It should have been
http://www.phenotyping.com
~Roger
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On Feb 14, 2004, at 10:59 AM, Dar Scott wrote:
I suggested to a customer that a new family of programs in their
product be implemented in Revolution. The customer did (at some
level) consider Revolution, but decided to go with Qt.
How would folks here compare these?
I've never programmed in
Also, at least on my powerbook, apps compiled with Qt have a giveaway
buzz or hum when i move a window or panel. See
http://psi.affinix.com/ and see if it does it for you.
Also, as mentioned, this demonstrates how unMaclike the interface can
be... It's pretty lame, and the pop up windows are
FWIW, thanks to all the feedback and clarifications posted here, I
finally decided to spring for the subscription--I just HAVE to get my
copy as soon as possible! Now all that remains is waiting for my
unlock code. Thanks, everyone!
I'm sure I will be printing the PDF on my laser printer and
I just put together a very simple demonstration of the RevSpeak command
which consists of a card with 2 items on it:
A field named TextToSpeak into which one enters text and a button
containing the following simple script.
On mouseUp
Put field TextToSpeak into whatText
RevSpeak whatText
Addendum to previous
If I add a second field to accept text from the following command
(placed in the button's mouseUp handler in addition to the revSpeak
command): put whatText into field debug
Entire button script follows:
On mouseUp
Put field TextToSpeak into whatText
RevSpeak
My printer's out of business. I did start printing out pages 25 at a time
on the university's printers, but they're not always in the best of
shape...
Plus, when I print it out, it's not two-sided.
Haven't had the time to look through it really. I suppose that some of
the screen shots would
Ahhh... so that's it!
Thanks!
Judy
On Sat, 14 Feb 2004, J. Landman Gay wrote:
They aren't written yet. ;) Dan's working on volume 2 right now. As they
are produced, those who purchased the electronic package can download
the other volumes as they come out.
The purchasing options were
On Saturday, February 14, 2004, at 02:39 PM, Marian Petrides wrote:
What gives? Evidently there is some difference between the IDE and
the standalone that prevents the contents of the first field from
being properly captured and presented to the speech routine but also
prevents it from being
On Saturday, February 14, 2004, at 02:39 PM, Marian Petrides wrote:
In the IDE: the text entered into the first field gets spoken and
appears properly in the second field (debug)
In the standalone: No speech, no text placed into field debug
Your example has no 'try' structure. Perhaps your
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What sounds are built into REV(such as beep)
and where can we get other
sounds to import into stacks?
for rev MIDI apps google:
Kurt Kaufman
UDI
Shakobox on Jacquie L. Gay site
more explicit later, must practice piano.
Erik Hansen
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Do you Yahoo!?
Yahoo! Finance: Get your refund fast by filing online.
http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html
Here is a good site for searching for sounds:
http://www.findsounds.com/
- Mike
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QT = Quicktime or the Trolltech SDK?
Sorry. TrollTech SDK.
good because QT works WITH RunRev, right?
google:
MIDIBuilder
Shakobox
makeSMF
for expanded auditory horizens in RuRev/QT.
excuse the unsolicited plug, but what
these guys have done
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--- Dar Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
QT = Quicktime or the Trolltech SDK?
Sorry. TrollTech SDK.
good because QuickTime works
WITH RunRev, right?
google:
MIDIBuilder
Shakobox
makeSMF
for expanded auditory horizens in RuRev/QT.
On 2/14/04 10:08 PM, Rob Cozens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
OS 9
I am not sure of the best way to bundle this for distribution, because the
app needs to preserve its macbinary resource fork. What do people use for
this so they can distribute it?
Hi Doug,
I use a MacBinary
It could be the same reason why my video grabber worked in the IDE and did
not work at first in the standalone.
The speech feature requires that a separate file called revspeech.bundle
be in the data folder in the same location as the standalone. Make sure that
is also generated when building the
Doug
Thanks so much for the tip. I didn't know I needed to manually move
it. Or (rereading your message) is there some checkbox I need to
select to get it to be placed there in the process of making the
standalone?
In any event, that may well be PART of the problem but manually moving
You should not have to move anything manually. Unless you are moving
your app + .bundle's to CD or another folder!!!
IN the DB there is an option for All other Libraries and It must be
selected for the standalone to work right. The same goes for the
videograb library too.
Tom
On Feb 14, 2004,
sit, zip and dmg all work well via email/http etc.
Note:
A lot of people have files as http://something.com/download.php;
which on Mac OSX will open Dreamweaver, But the file is actually a .sit
file and if you change the extension to .sit the OS will ask if you are
sure, Just hit yeah and then
Hi Dar,
Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2004 11:43:39 -0700
From: Dar Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: sounds
On Saturday, February 14, 2004, at 11:10 AM, Ken Norris wrote:
What you want to do is import them from a sound file
collection such as you can D/L from sites like this:
Hi Ken,
Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2004 12:52:08 -0600
From: Ken Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: How to make a stack into a substack
If you know the name of the mainstack that it should be a substack of,
you can open the substack and type this in the message box:
set the mainstack of this
Dar,
That (checking all libraries) did the trick. Thanks!
And you were right about why my clever little debugging statement
didn't work--presumably because the mouseUp handler quit prematurely,
although you would think it would not see the RevSpeak command until
AFTER it had put the value of
Hi Ken,
Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2004 13:13:24 -0600
From: Ken Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Sticky palettes
Let me change the question: Can I poll a window's location as
I drag it by its titlebar?
You can in Windows by trapping the moveStack message. Unfortunately you
only get the
In a message dated 2/14/04 5:49:53 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
http://www.findsounds.com/
Thanks to all who responded with sound sites.
jack
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On Saturday, February 14, 2004, at 04:34 PM, Marian Petrides wrote:
Thanks so much for the tip. I didn't know I needed to manually move
it. Or (rereading your message) is there some checkbox I need to
select to get it to be placed there in the process of making the
standalone?
If you allow
On 14 Feb 2004, at 23:49, Thomas McGrath III wrote:
sit, zip and dmg all work well via email/http etc.
snip
Are you sure about zip? My experience is that applications never work
on Mac 9 or X after being zipped, as it doesn't preserve the resource
fork. I find sit dmg to be safer for apps.
On Saturday, February 14, 2004, at 04:58 PM, Ken Norris wrote:
But there's also several hundred free ones, i.e., you can D/L what you
want
for nothing. I haven't seen another site with that much (apparently
legal)
free stuff.
That's not how read it.
I read 30 bucks.
Dar
OSX has builtin zip. It is under the actions button labeled Create
Archive of...
OSX will also unzip via BOMArchiveHelper which is built in as well.
Of course it is best if zip files are created on the Mac since Windows
zip files are not always predictable in preserving the resource fork.
But
Hi
Did anyone get a solution to launching programs under OS X? I'm
using Rev 2.1.2 with OS X 10.3.2 and trying to launch the three
media players: Flash, RealOne and Windows Media Player with relevant
media files. Only the Flash one works!
I've tried using:
launch mediafile with
On Saturday, February 14, 2004, at 05:41 PM, Marian Petrides wrote:
for non-commercial use only
not free
Dar Scott
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On Saturday, February 14, 2004, at 05:03 PM, Marian Petrides wrote:
Wouldn't it see and execute the put whatText into field debug before
it even knew there was an unsupported revSpeak out there???
This is what you wrote earlier:
On mouseUp
Put field TextToSpeak into whatText
RevSpeak
You are right again. My bad. Thanks, Dar.
On Feb 14, 2004, at 7:55 PM, Dar Scott wrote:
On Saturday, February 14, 2004, at 05:03 PM, Marian Petrides wrote:
Wouldn't it see and execute the put whatText into field debug
before it even knew there was an unsupported revSpeak out there???
This is
On Saturday, February 14, 2004, at 05:50 PM, Dar Scott wrote:
for non-commercial use only
not free
Boy, that was blunt. Sorry. I was needing to run out the door and now
have a few seconds reprieve.
Aye, that is free in a limited sense and, perhaps, should be qualified
as such.
Normally, I
My test with OS X's built-in .zip archiving with OS 9 apps showed the
resource fork was not preserved. At least, an app archived that way could
not be successfully sent through email or ftp.
Also (and I mentioned this in my original note) when I .zip the Windows
build and then unzip on Windows I
Ayup. I missed that little caveat but it IS there.
The other site folks mentioned findsounds.com specifically has a caveat
indicating that they make no promises re: copyright status of the files
listed, so one probably needs to be careful what one uses from that
site as well.
For those who
I ended up deciding to spring for the full three-volume subscription
and can confirm it's well worth the money.
The first volume is right around 350 pages in length. The portions I've
glanced through appear to have LOTS of valuable information, clearly
presented. The photos are large enough
If I want to make a group out of all the objects in a card (all the objects
are graphics, images and text fields) so I can scroll the window, is there
an expression I can use to refer to all the objects?
If I do this, does it then prevent me from selecting individual objects in
the group?
doug
Peter,
Use the shell command open that you can run through Terminal. The
basic syntax at the command line is:
open pathToApp pathToDoc
So here's the code I used (watch wrapping):
on mouseUp
put open quote /Applications/Windows Media Player/Windows
Media Player.app \
quote
Occasionally Revolution will get into some kind of circular loop and I
have to use Cntrl-Alt-Delete and task manager to abort the program.
Hopefully I have saved not to long before.
I cannot find anything in the documentation (so far) which would
indicate that stopping such a circularity is
On Saturday, February 14, 2004, at 09:16 PM, Mark MacKenzie wrote:
Occasionally Revolution will get into some kind of circular loop and I
have to use Cntrl-Alt-Delete and task manager to abort the program.
Hopefully I have saved not to long before.
I cannot find anything in the documentation
The scenario: PowerBook G4 with Rev working under Panther. I create a
simple stack with one text field, font specified as Times. Type text
right into the field, then open the Character Palette via the Keyboard
Menu in order to insert special characters. This does not work and I am
told
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