Recently, Mark Wieder wrote:
http://www.dontclick.it/
Another opinion: I enjoy the idea, though I don't see much revolutionary
there. I think the greater issue is effective communication to visitors
regarding where they can go from where they are.
But the clickable UI seems far from passé.
Hi Dan,
Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2005 11:23:49 -0700
From: Dan Shafer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: different UI approach
I don't see any real new thinking here, Mark. Maybe I'm missing
something. And I don't see ANY value in either being able to navigate
(sometimes unintentionally) by mouse moves
Really?
I personally have more problems with the mouse because it moves, even when
I don't want it to (as does the mousepad, as well as whatever it's
sitting on), whereas, hopefully, the trackpad ain't goin' anywhere (and,
if it does, I'm in big trouble 'cuz either my computer is
Charles,
Is the goal of your script to change the default font in text
fields, not only before but also after font and style tags?
The reason for inserting font tags in substacks may be that
substacks inherit all font and style information from the main
stack. If you change the font of the
I'm sure this issue has come up many times before, but I've been out of
the loop recently, so apologies in advance. If I ask rev (vers. 2.03,
Mac OS 10.2x) to put the files for long media file names I might get
something like this:
Hi list,
I'm facing a problem for the 1st time :
I have a stack built on MacOS9 which I transfered
safely to WinXP (zipped file via ftp). After improving
a few thing on Win, I'd like to transfer it back on OS9.
But whatever method I try, I get the message stack
corrupted when opening it on Mac...
Any illegal file name characters (:) in the name maybe?
just a thought...
On 11/07/2005 11:53:33 use-revolution-bounces wrote:
Hi list,
I'm facing a problem for the 1st time :
I have a stack built on MacOS9 which I transfered
safely to WinXP (zipped file via ftp). After improving
a few thing on
Nope, the file name is very straightforward : Demo.rev
(actually the same name as the original MacOS9 stack).
However, I'm wondering : the stack on WinXP has been
configured (via the Standalone application settings menu)
before being saved as a standalone (of course, it's the
source code that I'm
Quoting jbv [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Hi list,
I'm facing a problem for the 1st time :
I have a stack built on MacOS9 which I transfered
safely to WinXP (zipped file via ftp).
Is the FTP set to binary transfer. If it is set to ASCII transfer then it can be
corrupted. Mind you I cant explain the
JB,
Maybe a byte by byte file comparison could help...
cheers
X
On 11/07/2005 12:04:15 use-revolution-bounces wrote:
Nope, the file name is very straightforward : Demo.rev
(actually the same name as the original MacOS9 stack).
However, I'm wondering : the stack on WinXP has been
configured
Hi All.
I noted that the early 2.6 tiger caused some problems I think the ask command
was one. I have 2.5 on a winXP. Is it OK to go to 2.6 on WinXP or are there
still some issues to be resolved that were ok in 2.5?
All the best
Bob
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Jeanne A. E. DeVoto wrote:
At 11:52 AM -0700 7/10/2005, Rich Lague wrote:
I'm trying to set up a sort of a stack of address cards by zip code.
Some of the zips are only the first 5 numbers and
I enjoyed taking a look at this new [?!?] UI, but the proof of the
pudding, for me, was when I accidentally moved the mouse across the
answer to a question, and it assumed I had answered (with no way to
back up). I'd say I would have to pass on this one.
Jon
Scott Rossi wrote:
Recently,
If he is transferring a Zip, he could not have corrupted it during the
file transfer: the unZip processor would have detected it...
:)
Jon
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Quoting jbv [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Hi list,
I'm facing a problem for the 1st time :
I have a stack built on MacOS9 which I
I've been using 2.6 for weeks (albeit not at the rabid rate of some of
the other list users). I have never experienced a problem. Or if I
did, I am unaware of it sick grin
:)
Jon
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Hi All.
I noted that the early 2.6 tiger caused some problems I think the ask
Yep, and I also tried to transfer the unzipped stack via Iomega Zip,
and I get the same error...
BTW Jon, what makes you think I'm a he, and not a she ?;-)
JB
If he is transferring a Zip, he could not have corrupted it during the
file transfer: the unZip processor would have detected
On Jul 11, 2005, at 4:52 AM, Mark Schonewille wrote:
Charles,
Is the goal of your script to change the default font in text
fields, not only before but also after font and style tags?
Yes. The goal: everything in the script, that does not fall within an
area where I've specified a font,
Outside of rev, I recommend BBedit, which will do a multi-file batch
search. Just stick all the text files in one folder and give it a go.
The free light version of BB works fine for this. Does take some
time though.
Now, when i have all these decompressed
text files from this list in a CD
Sorry, jbv. I'll write s/he from now on.
:)
jbv wrote:
Yep, and I also tried to transfer the unzipped stack via Iomega Zip,
and I get the same error...
BTW Jon, what makes you think I'm a he, and not a she ?;-)
JB
If he is transferring a Zip, he could not have corrupted it
It is unfortunate that English lacks a gender-neutral personal pronoun.
Proper grammar would be to use the word he in a situation where you do
not know a person's gender, but perhaps some rules are best broken:)
That particular rule of grammar was probably thunk up by the same person
who decided
I don't know if he/she/it was the same person who decided that but I
bet he/she/it was actually a he/she/it and not a he/she/it.
Seriously, when doing presentations that are going to be in english but
presented in foreign speaking countries I always am asked to replace he
or she with he/she
Dan
Where do we get your book? I feel the same way as Tom.
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I second this question. I'm still running 2.51 on WinXP. Reason: Given the
choice between new features and less bugs, I always opt for less bugs. -Jim
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Tom,
Nice name My name is Tom as well.
When I started out in xTalk the single most helpful thing I found was
to download other peoples stacks and read through them and see how they
did it. It helps to have an idea of 'what' you want to accomplish so
that when you see how someone else did
Sometime around 11/7/05 (at 10:04 -0400) Thomas McGrath III said:
I don't know if he/she/it was the same person who decided that but I
bet he/she/it was actually a he/she/it and not a he/she/it.
Seriously, when doing presentations that are going to be in english
but presented in foreign
My book is available in print form thorugh RunRev directly from their
store. On the opening page of their site at http://www.runrev.com,
scroll all the way down and see the link on the left.
Dan
On Jul 11, 2005, at 7:14 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dan
Where do we get your book? I feel
Recently, mark wrote:
I'm sure this issue has come up many times before, but I've been out of
the loop recently, so apologies in advance. If I ask rev (vers. 2.03,
Mac OS 10.2x) to put the files for long media file names I might get
something like this:
Can anyone advise me on how I can access a FileMaker Pro 7 database
from Rev 2.6 (under OS X 10.3.8)? I have tried installing ODBC
support but whenever I try to connect I get revdberr,invalid
database type returned as the error!
Thanks
Peter
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Jon-
Monday, July 11, 2005, 4:37:32 AM, you wrote:
J I enjoyed taking a look at this new [?!?] UI, but the proof of the
J pudding, for me, was when I accidentally moved the mouse across the
J answer to a question, and it assumed I had answered (with no way to
J back up). I'd say I would have
I think a 100% no click interface has no interest,
although there are some actions that don't need a
click...
In the intranet project I mentioned yesterday (in
which I planed to implement such an UI approach),
users could browse (very quickly) through various
topics indexes just by moving the
I've been using it since it was released without any (noticeably
different) problems. I'm not the most sophisticated user however,
and my critics tell me that I tend to ignore bugs!!
Roger
On Jul 11, 2005, at 10:33 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005
This got a little off topic with the whole gender thing, so I thought
I'd share an interesting fact with you all.
In Estonian there IS only one word for he and she (same goes for him/
her and all other nominal cases.) In other words there is no gender
distinction whatsoever in the
Sarah:
That's a good clean simple test... and it fails here... All I get is
Up or Down regardless of what other keys are pressed.
I don't know if I have any front scripts loaded.. I don't think I
do... how does one wipe out front scripts
[time passes as he changes this script to put the
In addition to the Ask/Answer issue, which affects everyone, there is
the one with non-OS-drawn menus which extend beyond the height of the
monitor, which kills the MC IDE, devolution, and anything else that
enjoys having menus in specific font sizes.
Given the critical nature of the
Thanks you for your help. It works. How can I transfer the value of
clickline into a button so when user click on a button then it shows the
value of clickline
I'm no expert...
Turn on the list behavior checkbox in the field's basic properties
window. Also, lock the text of the field.
This works just the same in Rev, doesn't it? At least, it constrains
the line to (I guess) 22.5 degrees
Mark
Makes me long for the old Hypercard (was it HC? Was it something
else?) days of being able to press shift or whatever it was to draw a
straight line.
Judy
On Jul 11, 2005, at 11:16 AM, Ban Nguyen wrote:
Thanks you for your help. It works. How can I transfer the value of
clickline into a button so when user click on a button then it
shows the
value of clickline
You could put the clickline into a global variable (gClickVar) or
custom
I have this code in the scrolling list field:
global textOfClickedLine
on mouseUp
select the clickLine
put the value of the clickLine into textOfClickedLine
answer textOfClickedLine
end mouseUp
It prints the value of the clickline correctly
And then created a button on the same card
define it as a global, outside of the handlers
global textOfClickedLine
Hope this helps
Dave
I have this code in the scrolling list field:
global textOfClickedLine
on mouseUp
select the clickLine
put the value of the clickLine into textOfClickedLine
answer textOfClickedLine
end
Looks like you already have your variable textOfClickedLine set up as
a global. All you need to do is declare that same variable as a
global in your button's script. Should work how you want it.
Chris
On Jul 11, 2005, at 1:08 PM, Ban Nguyen wrote:
I have this code in the scrolling list
It works thank you so much for your help.
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Looks like you already have your
Thank you very much. It works
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Sent: Monday, July 11, 2005 12:06 PM
To: How to use Revolution
Subject: Re: Scrolling List field
On Jul 11, 2005, at 11:16 AM, Ban Nguyen wrote:
Thanks you
And no need to use the value() function in your button's script, btw.
On Jul 11, 2005, at 1:08 PM, Ban Nguyen wrote:
I have this code in the scrolling list field:
global textOfClickedLine
on mouseUp
select the clickLine
put the value of the clickLine into textOfClickedLine
answer
On 7/11/05 12:59 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote:
Given the critical nature of the Ask/Answer issue (many scripts use if
it is empty then... which will break with v2.6) I would have thought a
v2.6.1 would have been released by now.
The ask/answer fix is included in the current download of 2.6
I use play and stop command to play and stop an audio. What command do
I need to use to pause, rew and forwad an audio. How do I control the
volume? Thank you for your help.
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Hi Mark
How can I get the next value by clicking on the button and hightlight
that line
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On
Jacque,
If you 'check for updates' will it 'get it' ??
-Chipp
J. Landman Gay wrote:
On 7/11/05 12:59 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote:
Given the critical nature of the Ask/Answer issue (many scripts use
if it is empty then... which will break with v2.6) I would have
thought a v2.6.1 would have
Hello
What command do you use to select the previous and next clickline in the
scrolling list field. Thank you
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I'm not sure I understand your question or exactly what you want to
happen.
Each time you click a new line in field 1, that line replaces what
was previously in the global variable or custom property. Then,
clicking the button would place the new text into field 2.
Mark
On Jul 11,
Anyone have any idea on how to record audio from the internal speaker of
a Windows based PC?
I played with this a while ago where I would load a protected mp4 into a
QuickTime Player object and then I had a button which would begin to
play the player and record audio that is streaming to the
Hi Mark
I am creating an audio player
I created a scrolling list field contanins a list of audio
I created the button play and stop using this code:
on mouseUp
global gClickVar
play audioClip value(gClickVar) looping
end mouseUp
on mouseUp
global gClickVar
stop playing audioClip
Scott, thanks for the info. I looked up the exchange you mentioned:
As a work-around for this at the moment, try setting the filename of
a player to a *real* file URL:
e.g. file:///Volumes/Primary/Users/mark/Desktop/
mask_with_a_really_really_really_long_filename.tiff
I've got a bunch of
Ban Nguyen wrote:
Hello
What command do you use to select the previous and next clickline in the
scrolling list field. Thank you
I think what you're looking for is 'word 2 of the clickline'. When you
evaluate 'the clickline' (eg type 'put the clickline' so that the msg
box opens and 'the
OK, I've figured out the workaround. Rev will screw up the fonts in
_substacks_ when the default font of the main stack is changed**,
UNLESS the substack has a non-empty textFont, not just an effective
textfont, before you change the default/owner's/stack font in the
main stack.
The
Thank you David. It helps me a lot
By the way. How can I create a volume control to control a song? And I
would like to create a progress bar for an audio. You have any idea?
Thank you
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I'm sure I've done this before, but can't remember where, and can't
figure out how to do it again.
Sigh :-( Another CRAFT day :-)
I want to build a library where some of the functions in it have
parameters which are callbacks;
agtMyFunction pData, pCallBackMessage
the functions will
On Jul 11, 2005, at 3:08 PM, Alex Tweedly wrote:
I'm sure I've done this before, but can't remember where, and can't
figure out how to do it again.
Sigh :-( Another CRAFT day :-)
I want to build a library where some of the functions in it have
parameters which are callbacks;
I'd imagine that you'd have to include a third parameter - the long
name of the fld, cd, stack or whatever that called the function ie. the
long name of me:
Mark
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Alex Tweedly wrote:
I'm sure I've done this before, but can't remember where, and can't
figure out
On 11 Jul 2005, at 23:08, Alex Tweedly wrote:
I'm sure I've done this before, but can't remember where, and can't
figure out how to do it again.
Sigh :-( Another CRAFT day :-)
I want to build a library where some of the functions in it have
parameters which are callbacks;
Seems like it will. That's all I did and the ask/answer problem
disappeared for me.
Dan
On Jul 11, 2005, at 1:22 PM, Chipp Walters wrote:
Jacque,
If you 'check for updates' will it 'get it' ??
-Chipp
J. Landman Gay wrote:
On 7/11/05 12:59 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote:
Given the critical
I have 3 .wmv files. I want them to play on a card by selecting one by
one at a time. Anyone know how to implement this. Thank you
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My inclination is to agree with you, Dan,
agree with the agreement, but...
it -felt- good.
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On Jul 11, 2005, at 4:08 PM, Alex Tweedly wrote:
I want to build a library where some of the functions in it have
parameters which are callbacks;
agtMyFunction pData, pCallBackMessage
You can pass 'the long id of me' as an extra parameter.
If that is empty, you can use 'the target'.
On 7/11/05 3:22 PM, Chipp Walters wrote:
Jacque,
If you 'check for updates' will it 'get it' ??
It should, now that RR has fixed the update checker on the server.
-Chipp
J. Landman Gay wrote:
On 7/11/05 12:59 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote:
Given the critical nature of the Ask/Answer
In a message dated 7/11/05 3:02:59 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
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the clickLine
I create a button name play
I put this script on button:
on mouseUp
play videoClip MENTORS at 100,100
end mouseUp
It did not work. Please help me, thank you
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Dar Scott wrote:
On Jul 11, 2005, at 4:08 PM, Alex Tweedly wrote:
I want to build a library where some of the functions in it have
parameters which are callbacks;
agtMyFunction pData, pCallBackMessage
You can pass 'the long id of me' as an extra parameter.
Ick.
If that is empty, you
On Jul 11, 2005, at 6:13 PM, Alex Tweedly wrote:
Actually, I'd really like to have the syntax of socket functions
extended to user-defined functions
callMyHandler value with message callback
I really like Transcipt's neo-English style - just wish it could be
used for user-defined handlers
On Jul 11, 2005, at 6:13 PM, Alex Tweedly wrote:
You can vote for the enhancement in bugzilla to add a function to get
this: #1954. Hmmm. My search came up with 1243 and 2839, too.
Dups, maybe.
I prefer to use the original (i.e. lowest numbered) out of a set of
dups - but 1243 has
I still can't figure out whether I'm doing something wrong when I try
to use the debugger, or if there is something wrong with the
debugger. Eric suggested there's a flaw in the debugger, but his
comment was ambiguous. I'm on version 2.5.1 in OS X. If there is a
problem with the debugger, I'd
With soundbed and soundflower which I believe have windows verisions.
Soundbed redirects audio to wherever you want it.
On 7/11/05 4:30 PM, Derek Bump [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Anyone have any idea on how to record audio from the internal speaker of
a Windows based PC?
I played with this a
OK, it's OSX... I shut down.. rebooted with cmd-S ran fsck -fy ...
twice... there were some errors... now the option key and control
work in Rev.
Question remains though, why they worked in other apps and not in Rev.
but all's well now.
skts
On Jul 11, 2005, at 7:52 AM, Sivakatirswami
Assuming you are using a QuickTime Player object to do this work, you
can use the following properties to control pause and loudness:
set the playLoudness of player foo to 0
set the paused of player foo to true (and false to un-pause)
However, Rev does not include any commands to place the
Timothy.
I can only report that this same kind of debugging works just fine
and as expected for me running Rev 2.6.1 on OS X 10.4. I don't recall
any problem like the one you're describing in earlier versions of Rev
but I may have missed something.
The factthat the debug buttons are
Dar-
Monday, July 11, 2005, 4:34:33 PM, you wrote:
DS Your can write your own function to get the object of the caller using
DS the executionContexts property. The property is not supported, so I'd
DS encourage the wrapper incase it changes.
executionContexts is one of my few exceptions to my
I need to get an on-board spell check going asap for one of my
apps... before I take Hugh Senior's stack and start re-working it for
this specific use... I'd like to check if someone has already done this:
This spell checker wants to just do one thing: check all the words in
a single
Derek... any news on your spell checker plugin?
Sivakatirswami
On Jul 01, 2005, at 12:45 PM, Derek Bump wrote:
Douglas Gilliland wrote:
I'm new to Revolution and can't find a spell check built into the
program. Any suggestions other than purchasing a spell check program?
I'm working on a G4
On Jul 11, 2005, at 7:01 PM, Dan Shafer wrote:
Assuming you are using a QuickTime Player object to do this work,
you can use the following properties to control pause and loudness:
set the playLoudness of player foo to 0
set the paused of player foo to true (and false to un-pause)
However,
Timothy-
Monday, July 11, 2005, 6:34:09 PM, you wrote:
TM The details of my debugger frustration, previously described:
It works fine on, for example, a simple mouseUp script in a simple
button. However, if the button sends a message to a handler in a
stack script (for instance), which then
Sivakatirswami wrote:
Derek... any news on your spell checker plugin?
Sorry, was taken away from that project. I'll send you what I've got in
the morning. And yes, it does all that you want it to do.
Derek Bump
Dreamscape Software
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Timothy.
I can only report that this same kind of debugging works just fine
and as expected for me running Rev 2.6.1 on OS X 10.4. I don't
recall any problem like the one you're describing in earlier
versions of Rev but I may have missed something.
The factthat the debug buttons are
On 7/11/05 8:57 PM, Sivakatirswami wrote:
OK, it's OSX... I shut down.. rebooted with cmd-S ran fsck -fy ...
twice... there were some errors... now the option key and control work
in Rev.
Question remains though, why they worked in other apps and not in Rev.
I'm not sure why other apps
On 7/11/05 8:34 PM, Timothy Miller wrote:
The details of my debugger frustration, previously described:
It works fine on, for example, a simple mouseUp script in a simple
button. However, if the button sends a message to a handler in a stack
script (for instance), which then sends another
What command do you use to select the previous and next clickline
in the
scrolling list field. Thank you
Instead of tracking the clickLine in a global, you might do better to
have your button get the hilitedLines of the list field. If you allow
multiple selections, this will be a
Trevor.
Thanks for pointing those out. Searching the docs proves once again
to be less than useful.
But the docs at least imply that a playRate 1 plays forward at
slower speed. Would a negative number then result in a rewind?
Dan
On Jul 11, 2005, at 7:23 PM, Trevor DeVore wrote:
Duh. Rather than ask, why don't you try it, Dan? Well, that's not a
bad idea.
Yep, a number 0 for playRate rewinds at that rate, so -1 rewinds at
the frame rate of the movie, -2 rewinds at double speed, etc.
Cool.
Dan
On Jul 11, 2005, at 7:23 PM, Trevor DeVore wrote:
On Jul 11, 2005,
On Jul 11, 2005, at 8:40 PM, Dan Shafer wrote:
Duh. Rather than ask, why don't you try it, Dan? Well, that's not a
bad idea.
Yep, a number 0 for playRate rewinds at that rate, so -1 rewinds
at the frame rate of the movie, -2 rewinds at double speed, etc.
Cool.
Yeah, sorry about that.
Ken... just a thought... you might sell more software if you had a
full demo that timed out... even if you only gave it 24 hours or 72
hours...
I generally always want to know what I'm getting. and since the
standard ediiton of your XML library is locked... I can't see the
scripts.
I have this code
## tag paragraphs in the transcript node
put revXMLNodeContents(tCurrTree,/audio_transcript/
transcript_text/) into tTranscript
replace (cr cr crcr) with (cr cr) in tTranscript
replace (cr cr cr) with (cr cr) in tTranscript
replace (cr cr) with
I have this code
snip
which is meant to turn paragraphs inside and XML node
para1
para2
para3
into
ppara 1/p
ppara 2/p
ppara 3/p
but on dumping... Rev is converting all these to entities
===we get as output:
lt;pgt;'Learning from our Mistakes' lt;/pgt;
It converts them to
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