RE: Best Update Standalone Scenario

2005-10-22 Thread Scott Kane
What is the best strategy to auto update standalones. I've never done this in Rev, but have in other languages on Windows. What I did was to execute a shell command to run a utility program (the updater) followed by an application close command (exit, quit). Then the updater ran, updates the

RE: strange issue

2005-10-22 Thread MisterX
the bad thing about superstition is bad luck... Unlike normal programming languages, this remains a weakness in Rev's engine... I find it strategic to be able to use the same names though... Nonetheless, this works usually... although that's not exactly without some luck behind... ;) X)

Re: database

2005-10-22 Thread Ruslan Zasukhin
On 10/22/05 12:49 AM, Chipp Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey guys. Pascal asks for NON-SQL database. Pascal, I believe that exists only one database for Revolution that fit your needs -- Valentina database. * Valentina support both: SQL and non-SQL ways to work with database. * Valentina

RE: Best Update Standalone Scenario

2005-10-22 Thread MisterX
Hi Sivakatirswami That's an excellent topic... I like the simplicity and safety of many programs I use - auto-watch web updates - with an option to turn it off - downloadable improvements, selectable in a list. keep old versions available - for old client (filter out the inaplicable or

Re: Phishy Paypal

2005-10-22 Thread Erik Hansen
i am getting bogus PayPal email asking for card info etc. so nfar just deleting is working but these guys are always pushing the envelope. Erik Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.erikhansen.org __ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel

RE: Phishy Paypal

2005-10-22 Thread MisterX
I can't tell you how much they do! And they certainly don’t take their customer's problems seriously either! X -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Erik Hansen Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2005 9:58 AM To: How to use Revolution

Re: database - valentina

2005-10-22 Thread Bill
I remember when I first looked at Valentina I didn't like it because I was moving from MySQL and was used to the many utilties that are available for working with the database and Valentina didn't seem to have one. I am now using SQLite and the SQLiteManager (and of course the Altuit plug-in).

Re: Phishy Paypal

2005-10-22 Thread Charles Hartman
On Oct 22, 2005, at 4:19 AM, MisterX wrote: I can't tell you how much they do! And they certainly don’t take their customer's problems seriously either! If you mean PayPal -- it's pretty clearly not PayPal sending out all that PayPal phishing spam. Charles Hartman X

Re: Phishy Paypal

2005-10-22 Thread Thomas McGrath III
Obviously it is not PayPal doing it BUT someone IS gaining access to either PayPal and/or eBay and their mailing lists 'when someone does a transaction'. This started for me right after an eBay sale and PayPal transaction. I sent the email on to both and got a response very quickly. The

Re: Phishy Paypal

2005-10-22 Thread Thomas McCarthy
The Other T.M. wrote: Obviously it is not PayPal doing it BUT someone IS gaining access to either PayPal and/or eBay and their mailing lists 'when someone does a transaction'. This started for me right after an eBay sale and PayPal transaction. I sent the email on to both and got a response very

How trim?

2005-10-22 Thread Bob Warren
Sometimes inexperienced Rev programmers have to ask questions that make them want to crawl under the table in shame because probably the answer is idiotically simple. Here is such a question. If I have a string, say:- The cat sat under the mat - and I want to trim off the leading and

Re: How trim?

2005-10-22 Thread Marcus van Houdt
Hello, With revolution this is even easier than Basic, all you need to do is: put word 1 to -1 of The cat sat under the mat. This will put The cat sat under the mat. into message. Regards, Marcus Software Developer Runtime Revolution Sometimes inexperienced Rev

How trim? P.S.

2005-10-22 Thread Bob Warren
Sorry, the 2 strings mentioned in the previous e-mail should have read: The cat sat on the mat The cat sat on the mat I was thinking about crawling UNDER the table! Bob [P.S. If anybody wants to send me e-mails directly, it can still be done via [EMAIL PROTECTED] (corresponding to the

How trim? P.P.S.

2005-10-22 Thread Bob Warren
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Re: How trim?

2005-10-22 Thread Alex Tweedly
Bob Warren wrote: Sometimes inexperienced Rev programmers have to ask questions that make them want to crawl under the table in shame because probably the answer is idiotically simple. Here is such a question. If I have a string, say:- The cat sat under the mat - and I want to trim

RE: How trim?

2005-10-22 Thread MisterX
Marcus, here's a new list of scripts from MonsieurX.com/taoo http://www.monsieurx.com/tiki/tiki-read_article.php?articleId=5 They do stripping of bad text in text... choose which you need and just put striplineendindspace(text) into text... quite handy ofr lists, text, field entries, etc...

Re: database

2005-10-22 Thread Rob Cozens
Hi Pascal, my interest now is in databases (I mean relational database without using SQL.) and I'm looking for, and not finding any example of databases build with Revolution. I mean something that looks like a FileMaker or a 4D product. Is ther any example on Revolution web site, or other ?

Re: How trim?

2005-10-22 Thread Bob Warren
Thanks a lot, Marcus. The double trim is easy as you say, but I would never have guessed it. However, by what I see from Alex Tweedly's first ideas about left and right trims, these may not be so trivial. Any ideas about simple solutions for these cases? Alex: I couldn't seem to make your

AW: How trim?

2005-10-22 Thread Thomas Fischer
Hi Bob, this is a classical application of regular expressions. Try get replaceText(The cat sat under the mat. ,^ *,) The ^ tells the search engine to start at the beginning. The * looks for as many of the previous characters (here space) as possible. To get rid of them at the

Re: OT: Bush in Free Fall

2005-10-22 Thread Mark Wieder
Jim- Friday, October 21, 2005, 5:51:36 PM, you wrote: Couldn't find the elephants. http://www.pekkasandborg.com/portfolio/?id=4 -- -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this

Re: database - valentina

2005-10-22 Thread Ruslan Zasukhin
On 10/22/05 2:56 PM, Bill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Bill, I remember when I first looked at Valentina I didn't like it because I was moving from MySQL and was used to the many utilties that are available for working with the database and Valentina didn't seem to have one. I am now using

Re: OT: Bush in Free Fall

2005-10-22 Thread Mark Wieder
Jim- Friday, October 21, 2005, 5:51:36 PM, you wrote: something else. There is some complicated physics there. Here's a paper on the free-fall physics behind the animation, although it's still beyond me at the moment, although using Verlet integration for molecular dynamics does sound

Re: Phishy Paypal

2005-10-22 Thread Mark Wieder
Thomas- Saturday, October 22, 2005, 5:28:50 AM, you wrote: Obviously it is not PayPal doing it BUT someone IS gaining access to either PayPal and/or eBay and their mailing lists 'when someone does a transaction'. This started for me right after an eBay sale and PayPal transaction. Well,

Re: OT: Bush in Free Fall

2005-10-22 Thread Mark Swindell
That is amazing. Mark On Oct 21, 2005, at 4:52 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: All- completely off topic But it's Friday and this is way too much fun... Here's a great flash animation with physics based on Pekka's rag doll. Be sure to check out Pekka's site while you're at it (especially the

Re: Phishy Paypal

2005-10-22 Thread Bruce A. Pokras
Obviously it is not PayPal doing it BUT someone IS gaining access to either PayPal and/or eBay and their mailing lists 'when someone does a transaction'. This started for me right after an eBay sale and PayPal transaction. I sent the email on to both and got a response very quickly. The

Re: Best Update Standalone Scenario

2005-10-22 Thread Mark Wieder
Chipp- Friday, October 21, 2005, 10:56:24 PM, you wrote: Check out http://lists.runrev.com/pipermail/use-revolution/2003-August/021590.html The only things I would add to Chipp's excellent writeup are: I have an aversion to apps that phone home on their own at startup, so I leave this as an

Re: strange issue

2005-10-22 Thread Mark Wieder
Stephen- Friday, October 21, 2005, 10:48:11 PM, you wrote: another reason to use labeling conventions I guess... pParameter tLocalVariable gGlobalVariable cCustomProperty (or kCustomProperty?) I've come around to the convention of using uCustomProperty for my own custom properties. and

Re: strange issue

2005-10-22 Thread Richard Gaskin
Mark Wieder wrote: pParameter tLocalVariable gGlobalVariable cCustomProperty (or kCustomProperty?) I've come around to the convention of using uCustomProperty for my own custom properties. and kConstant (never got out of that habit)... Me too. c is commonly used to denote classes in OOP

Re: OT: Bush in Free Fall

2005-10-22 Thread Jim Hurley
Message: 13 Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 09:48:43 -0700 From: Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT: Bush in Free Fall To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Jim- Friday, October 21, 2005, 5:51:36 PM,

Re: How trim?

2005-10-22 Thread Mark Smith
I got these: to strip leading spaces function trimL aString return char offset(word 1 of aString, aString) to -1 of aString end trimL to strip trailing spaces function trimR aString return char 1 to length(word 1 to -1 of aString) + (offset(word 1 of aString, aString) - 1) of aString

Re: Phishy Paypal

2005-10-22 Thread jbv
true. if you check carefully that kind of phishy emails, you'll notice that very often it sends data back to a server located in Romania... JB The phishers do not necessarily have PayPal mailing lists. I have neither a PayPal nor eBay account, and I get plenty of phishing spams for both

Re: Phishy Paypal

2005-10-22 Thread Charles Hartman
On Oct 22, 2005, at 1:49 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Sounds reasonable. Why would PayPal phish its own customers? Weird idea -- or an ultimate perfection of capitalism? Charles Hartman ___ use-revolution mailing list

Re: OT: Bush in Free Fall

2005-10-22 Thread Dom
Mark Swindell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That is amazing. awesome :-) in order to be in chart: no means to make something approaching this? arcade engine, for instance (not so much studied it, I must confess...) -- Revolutionario ___ use-revolution

Re: Best Update Standalone Scenario

2005-10-22 Thread Sivakatirswami
Aloha, Chipp and Mark: Excellent, thanks... I have copied Chipps scenario to my own knowledge base. Two questions: 1) How do you handle the Splash Screen-Engine-Player after the MainStack is opened... set it to invisible? Just let it sit in the background behind everything? I would

Re: How trim?

2005-10-22 Thread Bob Warren
Well, I am relieved to say it wasn't such a dumb question after all. Thanks chaps! And thanks particularly to Thomas Fischer who has come up with the most elegant solution. QED. Now I need to go off and study regular expressions. Bob -- This is a

Re: Phishy Paypal

2005-10-22 Thread Dennis Brown
I just used my Paypal for a transaction yesterday after a long period of not using it. Today I have been Phished twice by phony Paypal emails and sites! Dennis On Oct 22, 2005, at 1:22 PM, Bruce A. Pokras wrote: Obviously it is not PayPal doing it BUT someone IS gaining access to either

Re: How trim?

2005-10-22 Thread Buster
Hi, It is indeed elegant, but a condition check is necessary here as it will remove the first word + the space(s) if there is no space at the start of the line. The cat sat on the mat. will become The cat sat on the mat. But if no space in front the result

[ANN] StackRunner 1.0.3 available

2005-10-22 Thread Ken Ray
Just a quick note to let you all know that version 1.0.3 of StackRunner has been uploaded; this version fixes a bug where the 'closeStack' message wasn't being sent to the last closing stack. If this is the first time you've heard of StackRunner, StackRunner is a simple player application that is

Re: Phishy Paypal

2005-10-22 Thread Richard Gaskin
Dennis Brown wrote: I just used my Paypal for a transaction yesterday after a long period of not using it. Today I have been Phished twice by phony Paypal emails and sites! There may or may not be a cause-and-effect relationship there. After all, phishing is an attempt to get account

Re: How trim?

2005-10-22 Thread Alex Tweedly
Bob Warren wrote: Alex: I couldn't seem to make your first suggestions for L and R trims work. Would you mind spelling out some example routines for me? I've combined Mark Smith's versions, an alternate for one of his and mine all in the following script. Beware there are subtle

Re: Re: OT: Bush in Free Fall

2005-10-22 Thread Malte Brill
awesome :-) Indeed! While we are at cool flashes: The coolest skeleton I saw was done by vectorlounge, which seem to have disappeared (a pity) I found an archived version. http://web.archive.org/web/20030605104909/http://www.vectorlounge.com/ 04_amsterdam/jam/wireframe.swf If might

Re: Phishy Paypal -- those guys pushing the envelope

2005-10-22 Thread Erik Hansen
--- Richard Gaskin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PayPal phishing their own customers for info just doesn't make sense. those guys are always pushing the envelope refered to the bad guys in Romania or wherever. the range of responses was VERY informative. btw, spellcheck shows Gascony and

Re: strange issue

2005-10-22 Thread Stephen Barncard
yeah, I was wrong, I did it from memory. Of course I've seen and used the suggested forms by Richard. Mark Wieder wrote: pParameter tLocalVariable gGlobalVariable cCustomProperty (or kCustomProperty?) I've come around to the convention of using uCustomProperty for my own custom properties.

Re: Phishy Paypal

2005-10-22 Thread Stephen Barncard
But one will never know whether it was coincidence or not unless one uses a special email address for Paypal transactions. I have never gotten a 'phishing' email from anyone using the special email address I created. This is highly recommended if you can have multiple addresses or aliases on

Re: Phishy Paypal

2005-10-22 Thread Erik Hansen
--- Stephen Barncard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But one will never know whether it was coincidence or not unless one uses a special email address for Paypal transactions. I have never gotten a 'phishing' email from anyone using the special email address I created. This is highly

Re: [ANN] StackRunner 1.0.3 available

2005-10-22 Thread Jim Hurley
Just a quick note to let you all know that version 1.0.3 of StackRunner has been uploaded; this version fixes a bug where the 'closeStack' message wasn't being sent to the last closing stack. If this is the first time you've heard of StackRunner, StackRunner is a simple player application that

Re: OT: Bush in Free Fall

2005-10-22 Thread Dennis Brown
Malte, http://www.wireframe.co.za/f4/default1.htm is the address of some more interesting animations from the company that did the dancing skeletons. Dennis On Oct 22, 2005, at 6:13 PM, Malte Brill wrote: awesome :-) Indeed! While we are at cool flashes: The coolest skeleton I saw

Re: How trim?

2005-10-22 Thread Ken Ray
On 10/22/05 4:51 PM, Alex Tweedly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bob Warren wrote: Alex: I couldn't seem to make your first suggestions for L and R trims work. Would you mind spelling out some example routines for me? I've combined Mark Smith's versions, an alternate for one of his and

Re: Best Update Standalone Scenario

2005-10-22 Thread Mark Wieder
Sivakatirswami- Saturday, October 22, 2005, 12:44:33 PM, you wrote: 1) How do you handle the Splash Screen-Engine-Player after the MainStack is opened... set it to invisible? Just let it sit in the background behind everything? I would guess the former, which is more normal UI behavior (I

Re: How trim?

2005-10-22 Thread Buster
On 23 Oct 2005, at 03:17, Ken Ray wrote: -snip- So this next version is the fastest approach I've found that accommodates everything: function Trim what if the platform is MacOS then replace numToChar(202) with in what else replace numToChar(160) with in what end if

Re: How trim?

2005-10-22 Thread Jim Ault
True, but padding at each end should fix this. get replaceText(space The cat sat on the mat. space,^ *,) Jim Ault Las Vegas On 10/22/05 2:17 PM, Buster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is indeed elegant, but a condition check is necessary here as it will remove the first word + the

Re: How trim?

2005-10-22 Thread J. Landman Gay
Buster wrote: But what about this way (strips spaces and hard spaces from beginning and end): function Trim what return token 1 to -1 of what end Trim Hey. Cool! -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com