Re: strange issue

2005-11-21 Thread xavier . bury
After some testing, it seems this engine specific and not a revGUI issue. I thought it could have been the revmessage box but it also happens in MetaCard's msg box. So MC engine version 2.6.6 has a problem! Any confirmations to enter a concrete bugzilla is welcome... Second bugzilla today!!!

RE: problem waiting - spellchecker

2005-11-21 Thread xavier . bury
DUH! Appologies to Dave Cragg who suggested that... Sorry Dar, no cigar ;) i should learn to read sometimes ;) Thanks again Dave cheers Xavier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 02/09/2005 06:08:14: Woah cool the DarFunction! Some Interactivity seems to be showing handy thanks to the DarFunction

Re: Identifying objects by their tooltips

2005-11-21 Thread xavier . bury
Hi Richmond you can turn off tooltips by setting the tooltipdelay global variable... but im not sure what is the question for the rest... You seem to have drag and drop mastered... or? cheers Xavier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 21/11/2005 14:13:25: So I am working on some EFL programs for

Identifying objects by their tooltips

2005-11-21 Thread Mathewson
So I am working on some EFL programs for very young children and ended up with a lots of drag and drop images - now I could spend lines and lines of code of the sort: if the name of it is COW.gif then do TIDDLEY POM identifying each image individually - tedious, memory hungry and inefficient.

Re: Identifying objects by their tooltips

2005-11-21 Thread jbv
why don't you use custom properties instead ? JB So I am working on some EFL programs for very young children and ended up with a lots of drag and drop images - now I could spend lines and lines of code of the sort: if the name of it is COW.gif then do TIDDLEY POM identifying each image

Re: Identifying objects by their tooltips

2005-11-21 Thread Alex Tweedly
Mathewson wrote: So I am working on some EFL programs for very young children and ended up with a lots of drag and drop images - now I could spend lines and lines of code of the sort: if the name of it is COW.gif then do TIDDLEY POM identifying each image individually - tedious, memory hungry

Identifying objects by their tooltips

2005-11-21 Thread Mathewson
Wow - Xavier - that tip about how to turn off tooltips is extremely useful - Thanks a lot. I have no problem with Drag and Drop nor with drop-targets - and when I pull myself together and sort out my website I shall pop an example up there. I just thought I would share the idea about the

Identifying objects by their tooltips - custom props

2005-11-21 Thread Mathewson
Well, there are 3 possible answers to why I don't use custom props: 1. I have never bothered to learn how to use Custom props. 2. Tooltips seems rather straightforward. 3. I specialise in beeing bloody-minded. Needless to say, in my case, all 3 are partly true! sincerely, Richmond

A Very Large 'Thank You' to Runtime Revolution

2005-11-21 Thread Mathewson
THANK YOU VERY MUCH INDEED for allowing me to contribute to your use-lists again. Sincerely, Richmond Mathewson __ See Mathewson's software at: http://members.maclaunch.com/richmond/default.html ___

Re: Identifying objects by their tooltips - custom props

2005-11-21 Thread jbv
1. I have never bothered to learn how to use Custom props. custom props are worth bothering to learn... 2. Tooltips seems rather straightforward. custom props are quite straightforward too. JB ___ use-revolution mailing list

Re: Help for total newbie making a dissertation application

2005-11-21 Thread Thomas McGrath III
Ben, Welcome to your Revolution!!! Here are the simplified objectives for a standalone application to be individually administered to research participants. Mac and Windows and Linux??? 1. I have a series of .mpg files ~ 60 sec in duration that I want my participants to view, with no input

Re: Identifying objects by their tooltips - custom props

2005-11-21 Thread Thomas McGrath III
Sounds like me!!! Tom On Nov 21, 2005, at 8:59 AM, Mathewson wrote: Well, there are 3 possible answers to why I don't use custom props: 1. I have never bothered to learn how to use Custom props. 2. Tooltips seems rather straightforward. 3. I specialise in beeing bloody-minded. Needless to

Re: Living together BUT not married: RR/MC and Linux

2005-11-21 Thread David Bovill
Linux support is not about how many desktops you can sell applications to - it is about the quality of developers you can attract, and the ability to deliver intranet, and government contracts (at least here in Europe) which specify support for open platforms. It is also about being able

Re: SHA-1 algorithm in xTalk?

2005-11-21 Thread David Bovill
No but I need it badly for digital signatures! Don't think anyone knows about this though :( On 19 Nov 2005, at 03:10, Phil Davis wrote: I don't know much about hashes - is SHA-1 enough better than Rev's md5digest to warrant paying someone to do it? Or will md5digest do what you need?

Re: Identifying objects by their tooltips

2005-11-21 Thread xavier . bury
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 21/11/2005 14:55:45: Wow - Xavier - that tip about how to turn off tooltips is extremely useful - Thanks a lot. No big deal, it's in the docs ;) Search tooltip... Look at the related items ;) Learn 1 feature, discover 3 - 10 more - try not to recurse ;) I have no

Re: Living together BUT not married: RR/MC and Linux

2005-11-21 Thread Charles Hartman
On Nov 21, 2005, at 9:21 AM, David Bovill wrote: Linux support is not about how many desktops you can sell applications to - it is about the quality of developers you can attract, and the ability to deliver intranet, and government contracts (at least here in Europe) which specify support

Re: ANN: TreeView in Revolution!!

2005-11-21 Thread David Bovill
There are 3 or four sketches around but none which i have found that are what I would call finished objects - or truely general purpose. I guess there are many people on the list who have rolled their own custom solutions as it is relatively easy to do that in Rev. I am working on a tree

Re: ANN: ArchiveSearch 1.71

2005-11-21 Thread Dave LeYanna
Thanks mark! I noticed some other things you have made available to the community when I visited your site. Thank you very much. Dave Mark Wieder wrote: All- I took Xavier's suggestion seriously, and my Archive Search plugin now allows the stripping of the last signature if it's properly

Re: Living together BUT not married: RR/MC and Linux

2005-11-21 Thread Richard Gaskin
Charles Hartman wrote: Maybe only 1-2% of your typical desktop customers will be using linux - but I personally would not be using Revolution without good Linux support for the reasons above. And the Brazilian government's policy is worth keeping in mind, and watching as a plausible

Re: Living together BUT not married: RR/MC and Linux

2005-11-21 Thread David Bovill
On 21 Nov 2005, at 16:56, Richard Gaskin wrote: Charles Hartman wrote: Maybe only 1-2% of your typical desktop customers will be using linux - but I personally would not be using Revolution without good Linux support for the reasons above. And the Brazilian government's policy is

Re: Living together BUT not married: RR/MC and Linux

2005-11-21 Thread Richard Gaskin
David Bovill wrote: Linux support is not about how many desktops you can sell applications to - it is about the quality of developers you can attract I could write apps for the Pope, but if he won't give me something in return it'll be just as hard for me to pay my rent as writing for

Re: Living together BUT not married: RR/MC and Linux

2005-11-21 Thread Richard Gaskin
David Bovill wrote: On 21 Nov 2005, at 16:56, Richard Gaskin wrote: Charles Hartman wrote: Maybe only 1-2% of your typical desktop customers will be using linux - but I personally would not be using Revolution without good Linux support for the reasons above. And the Brazilian

Re: SHA-1 algorithm in xTalk?

2005-11-21 Thread Alessandro Manotti
Sorry if I introduce myself in this posts. Please note that md5 is no more reliable! Since it was officially cracked. Even Sha-0 was cracked, but it is far incomplete/primitive then sha-1, which is the only reliable hash system to verify digital signature, software integrity, etc... Sorry

Re: Living together BUT not married: RR/MC and Linux

2005-11-21 Thread David Bovill
On 21 Nov 2005, at 17:16, Richard Gaskin wrote: Depends on the license requirements, doesn't it? That is, even if I inherit enough wealth to be able to afford the luxury of working for free, at the end of the day the RunRev engine isn't open source so it's not possible for me to deliver

Re: SHA-1 algorithm in xTalk?

2005-11-21 Thread David Bovill
The SSL libraries that RunRev uses should be able to do this - and I would have thought considerably faster than a native and possibly less secure Transcript implementation - no? On 21 Nov 2005, at 17:35, Alessandro Manotti wrote: Sorry if I introduce myself in this posts. Please note

Living together BUT not married: RR/MC and Linux

2005-11-21 Thread Mathewson
Now, maybe I'm wrong, but . . . I believe that it is perfectly legal to download the Metacard IDE, download a copy of DC/RR, and then transfer the RR engine across to the Metacard IDE. I also know that DC/RR is a commercial product. However, I also know that Novell have some sort of agreement

Re: Living together BUT not married: RR/MC and Linux

2005-11-21 Thread David Bovill
On 21 Nov 2005, at 17:49, Mathewson wrote: What might be rather a good idea is if people in the know (i.e. Richard Gaskin, RR staff members, or the people involved in the MC IDE development) made an explicit statement as to what is FREE (as in totally and utterly free), what is SEMI-FREE (Um ?)

Re: Living together BUT not married: RR/MC and Linux

2005-11-21 Thread Andre Garzia
On Nov 21, 2005, at 2:13 PM, David Bovill wrote: Basically they insist on open source solutions for Government contracts - also very big supporters of open content (Creative Commons) with Gliberto Gil (Minister of Culture and renowned musician) being largely responsible for getting

Suppress Messages?

2005-11-21 Thread AbilityForms
Hi Everyone, I was running a script and at the end of it, buried behind the window I ended up on were Suppress Messages Message Watcher windows. What did I do to have that happen? I need to stop it from happening. Joe, Orlando, Florida We're more than just a mouse!

Difference between Step over and Run

2005-11-21 Thread Jim Hurley
I have noticed in the debugger that there is quite a difference in time of execution between Step over and Run even when Run takes me to the very next line of code--a line which is also a break point. When the handler to be Stepped over is complex, the time to execute Step over can

Thinking Graphically or Thinking Symbolically

2005-11-21 Thread Greg Smith
Jim Ault: Precisely. Richard Gaskin: The Ambrosia product is out of business as far as I can tell. Which brings an interesting point to bear on this subject: I've purchased more than a few off of the shelf products that have since ceased being supported. What a slap on the back of the

Scripting conference - Text Munging stack uploaded

2005-11-21 Thread J. Landman Gay
Alex Tweedly's scripting conference stack on Text Munging has been uploaded for review before this Saturday's conference. This is a very useful addition to our archives, and covers some of the text processing commands that are often opaque to many of us, including the format command and the

Re: Living together BUT not married: RR/MC and Linux

2005-11-21 Thread David Bovill
Hoping you would reply :) On 21 Nov 2005, at 18:00, Andre Garzia wrote: That's what happens when goverment decides to migrate itself to linux without thinking that in the Real world, people might need proprietary platforms, the zealots excuse is: if we all move, we'll create momentum to

Re: Thinking Graphically or Thinking Symbolically

2005-11-21 Thread Jim Ault
Programming does seem to be for people who really like that sort of thing. Yes, Greg, you are so correct in my case. Love to take bits of code to produce a result that takes less than a second of computer time. There are so many business tasks that are made difficult by poor interface or the

combine behavior

2005-11-21 Thread Harvey Toyama
Hi, I'm using the split and combine to manipulate database records. I notice that the documentation says that the order of the elements is based on an internal order. I require a known order for the INSERT and UPDATE commands to line up correctly. How can I know the order in which my elements

Re: You Either Think Graphically or You Don't

2005-11-21 Thread Mark Talluto
On Nov 20, 2005, at 11:33 AM, Greg Smith wrote: All of your questions have been answered by others, but I thought I would add a few thoughts on a couple of your questions as they pertain to me. What kind of application do you want to make? I like making applications for niche markets.

Message in an unprotected field...

2005-11-21 Thread Pierre Bernaert
Help needed, I'm writing an application in which I want to control the Key board input (Number of characters, type of characters ...). - Rev 2.6.5.108 - Mac Mini - Tiger X.4.2 The field into which the typing goes is unprotected LockText = false. Clicking somewhere into it

Re: keycodes??

2005-11-21 Thread Mark Talluto
On Nov 18, 2005, at 1:27 PM, Phil Davis wrote: Sarah Reichelt wrote: On 11/19/05, Charles Hartman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sometimes I need to use rawKeyDown handlers, which receive a keyCode parameter. Two questions: is there a table of these somewhere? and, are these cross-platform? (If I

Re: Living together BUT not married: RR/MC and Linux

2005-11-21 Thread J. Landman Gay
Mathewson wrote: Now, maybe I'm wrong, but . . . I believe that it is perfectly legal to download the Metacard IDE, download a copy of DC/RR, and then transfer the RR engine across to the Metacard IDE. Correct. However, note that since your copy of the IDE won't be licensed, all your scripts

Living together BUT not married: RR/MC and Linux

2005-11-21 Thread Mathewson
My wife is Bulgarian, her father was ina Communist prison camp . . . Oh, Dear, Richmond gets personal again! Yes, he does . . . I would like to take issue with Senor Garzia: (and, I suppose this all comes down to politics) I am not a socialist, and not a communist, and not a supporter of

Re: Living together BUT not married: RR/MC and Linux

2005-11-21 Thread David Bovill
On 21 Nov 2005, at 19:20, J. Landman Gay wrote: Mathewson wrote: Now, maybe I'm wrong, but . . . I believe that it is perfectly legal to download the Metacard IDE, download a copy of DC/RR, and then transfer the RR engine across to the Metacard IDE. Correct. However, note that since your

Re: Living together BUT not married: RR/MC and Linux

2005-11-21 Thread Charles Hartman
I assume that in DreamCard I can write an OSI-certifiable thingie that is a DM stack, with StackRunner bundled with it. Charles Hartman On Nov 21, 2005, at 1:20 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: Mathewson wrote: Now, maybe I'm wrong, but . . . I believe that it is perfectly legal to download the

Re: Message in an unprotected field...

2005-11-21 Thread Martin Baxter
Pierre Bernaert wrote: Clicking somewhere into it gives an Openfield message which allow me to get the ClickChunk and so the line, the item, the word and the select position. That's fine. If without going outside the field I click somewhere else it seems that no message is sent and I

StackRunner ?

2005-11-21 Thread Mathewson
Charles Hartman mentions something called 'StackRunner' sorry, obviously missed this I know about Dreamcard Player but not 'StackRunner' Please elucidate sincerely, Richmond __ See Mathewson's software at:

Re: Living together BUT not married: RR/MC and Linux

2005-11-21 Thread David Bovill
On 21 Nov 2005, at 19:19, Mathewson wrote: My wife is Bulgarian, her father was ina Communist prison camp . . . Goli Otok? Earliert his year I went to Sofia (Capital of Bulgaria) and listened to Richard Stallman, and reached the follwoing conclusions: 1. He is a long-haired hippy rather

Re: StackRunner ?

2005-11-21 Thread Ken Ray
On 11/21/05 12:29 PM, Mathewson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Charles Hartman mentions something called 'StackRunner' sorry, obviously missed this I know about Dreamcard Player but not 'StackRunner' Please elucidate StackRunner is a Dreamcard Player replacement - you can find more about

Re: Living together BUT not married: RR/MC and Linux

2005-11-21 Thread Richard Gaskin
Mathewson wrote: What might be rather a good idea is if people in the know (i.e. Richard Gaskin, RR staff members, or the people involved in the MC IDE development) made an explicit statement as to what is FREE (as in totally and utterly free), what is SEMI-FREE (Um ?) and what is COMMERCIAL (as

Re: combine behavior

2005-11-21 Thread Jan Schenkel
--- Harvey Toyama [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I'm using the split and combine to manipulate database records. I notice that the documentation says that the order of the elements is based on an internal order. I require a known order for the INSERT and UPDATE commands to line up

[OT] Web Services Dead? Don't Tell Amazon

2005-11-21 Thread Dan Shafer
During our recent thread on thin-client vs. desktop apps, several people suggested that Web Services were passe, outre and otherwise obsolete and deadsville. Someone forgot to tell amazon.com. They announced not one, not two, but three totally new Web services just this morning.

Re: [OT] Web Services Dead? Don't Tell Amazon

2005-11-21 Thread David Bovill
On 21 Nov 2005, at 20:08, Dan Shafer wrote: During our recent thread on thin-client vs. desktop apps, several people suggested that Web Services were passe, outre and otherwise obsolete and deadsville. Someone forgot to tell amazon.com. They announced not one, not two, but three totally

[OT] Game Engine (was Thinking Graphically or Thinking Symbolically)

2005-11-21 Thread Scott Rossi
Recently,Greg Smith wrote: The Ambrosia product is out of business as far as I can tell. Which product are you referring to? Unity still seems very alive: http://otee.dk/index.html Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Multimedia Design - E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W:

Re: You Either Think Graphically or You Don't

2005-11-21 Thread Dan Shafer
For me, primarily a writer who sees programming as an alternate form of communication, the answer to the question why program? is the same as the answer to the question why write? or why paint? It is in the nature of human beings to create. Each of us has different talents and interests

Spelling out the license - some geometry handlers

2005-11-21 Thread David Bovill
Agreed On 21 Nov 2005, at 19:50, Richard Gaskin wrote: The license is the best place to start. The MC IDE license spells out its own terms, and points to the Rev license which governs the engine. As an example: Some recent code I have been working on trying to formalise the exact

Re: You Either Think Graphically or You Don't

2005-11-21 Thread Rob Cozens
Hi Greg, I found your questions and the previous responses quite thoughtful. Rather than give you brief answers to all questions, I would like to focus on just one: why does it take so long to bring a software project from concept to completion? Development of software that interacts with,

Filter Command

2005-11-21 Thread Gregory Lypny
Hello Everyone, I'm having a bit of trouble with the Filter command giving me false positives. I'm picking off company names in a file containing news headlines. The headlines file has one headline per line, and each line is tab delimited, where the first item is a unique story number

Re: [OT] Web Services Dead? Don't Tell Amazon

2005-11-21 Thread Jan Schenkel
--- Dan Shafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: During our recent thread on thin-client vs. desktop apps, several people suggested that Web Services were passe, outre and otherwise obsolete and deadsville. Someone forgot to tell amazon.com. They announced not one, not two, but three

Re: Living together BUT not married: RR/MC and Linux

2005-11-21 Thread Dan Shafer
Richard I know you know this, but just to keep the conversation clear, open source doesn't mean free of charge. Not on any level. A lot of open source software is available for free. Some isn't (MySQL comes to mind immediately). But lots and lots of programmers make lots and lots of

Re: SHA-1 algorithm in xTalk

2005-11-21 Thread Sean Shao
I was busy this weekend learning about how to create MBR's and FileSystems in disk images, but I'll be finishing up the SHA-1 algorithm testing tonight (just need to finish my work first) _ Express yourself instantly with MSN

Re: [OT] Web Services Dead? Don't Tell Amazon

2005-11-21 Thread David Bovill
On 21 Nov 2005, at 20:30, Jan Schenkel wrote: However, I still don't think that letting the server do all the work while your computer is sitting there as a glorified VT100 terminal, is the optimal design of a distributed application. Let the server do what it's best at: serve shared data ; and

Re: Spelling out the license - some geometry handlers

2005-11-21 Thread David Bovill
Sorry some bug fixes - sure they can be improved sped up? License This work is licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution- NonCommercial-ShareAlike 2.5 License. To view a copy of this license, visit http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/2.5/ or send a letter to Creative

What I understand 'Open Source' to mean

2005-11-21 Thread Mathewson
I understand 'Open Source' to mean that the software, once I have obtained it - whether by paying money or FREE, can be altered, improved, messed-up, messed around by me and redistributed ( usually without charge) without fear of any legal penalties. HOWEVER, I'm a small time chap in a small time

Re: Filter Command

2005-11-21 Thread Eric Chatonet
Hi Greg, Just try something like: Filter it with * companyName Assuming there are not other items after the company name... If there are some: Filter it with * companyName * * means only any string (including tabs). Best Regards from Paris, Eric Chatonet. Le 21 nov. 05 à 20:29, Gregory

Re: Filter Command

2005-11-21 Thread Alex Tweedly
Gregory Lypny wrote: Hello Everyone, I'm having a bit of trouble with the Filter command giving me false positives. I'm picking off company names in a file containing news headlines. The headlines file has one headline per line, and each line is tab delimited, where the first item

Re: [OT] Web Services Dead? Don't Tell Amazon

2005-11-21 Thread Richard Gaskin
Dan Shafer wrote: During our recent thread on thin-client vs. desktop apps, several people suggested that Web Services were passe, outre and otherwise obsolete and deadsville. I must have missed that post. Aside from a few extreme positions advocating a false dichotomy which suggests that

Re: What I understand 'Open Source' to mean

2005-11-21 Thread Richard Gaskin
Mathewson wrote: I understand 'Open Source' to mean that the software, once I have obtained it - whether by paying money or FREE, can be altered, improved, messed-up, messed around by me and redistributed ( usually without charge) without fear of any legal penalties. HOWEVER, I'm a small time

Re: Filter Command

2005-11-21 Thread Jim Ault
Experiment with the following: My preferred method for this is to copy and paste into BBEdit (I am on a Mac) and look for high/low ASCII invisibles. This is especially true if the list is derived from a web source. --- Alternately --- start copy put url theHeadlinesFile into

Re: Living together BUT not married: RR/MC and Linux

2005-11-21 Thread Bob Warren
On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 15:00:01, Andre Garzia wrote: I think I must step in since I am the only Brazilian in the list. You may be the only true Brazilian on the list, but hopefully I might pass as an imitation! After 30 years in Brazil they make you Brazilian whether you like it or not - which is

Re: Living together BUT not married: RR/MC and Linux

2005-11-21 Thread Richard Gaskin
Dan Shafer wrote: Richard I know you know this, but just to keep the conversation clear, open source doesn't mean free of charge. Not on any level. As Richard Stallman patiently explained it over dinner in Chinatown to me once, there's free as in gratis and free as in freedom, and

Re: Living together BUT not married: RR/MC and Linux

2005-11-21 Thread Richard Gaskin
David Bovill wrote: On 21 Nov 2005, at 19:20, J. Landman Gay wrote: Mathewson wrote: Now, maybe I'm wrong, but . . . I believe that it is perfectly legal to download the Metacard IDE, download a copy of DC/RR, and then transfer the RR engine across to the Metacard IDE. Correct. However,

Re: SHA-1 algorithm in xTalk?

2005-11-21 Thread Alessandro Manotti
On 11/21/05, David Bovill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The SSL libraries that RunRev uses should be able to do this - and I would have thought considerably faster than a native and possibly less secure Transcript implementation - no? What do you mean when you talk about less secure? SHA-1 is a

Re: Living together BUT not married: RR/MC and Linux

2005-11-21 Thread Richard Gaskin
David Bovill wrote: On 21 Nov 2005, at 17:16, Richard Gaskin wrote: Depends on the license requirements, doesn't it? That is, even if I inherit enough wealth to be able to afford the luxury of working for free, at the end of the day the RunRev engine isn't open source so it's not

Living together BUT not married: RR/MC and Linux

2005-11-21 Thread Mathewson
Bob Warren's description of the Brazilian situation almost exactly mirrors that of Bulgaria: Pirate Windows everywhere: not because Bulgarians are crooks or lack morals (well, there are a few dubious characters lurking here and there; mainly in the government), but shear necessity caused by the

Re: Living together BUT not married: RR/MC and Linux

2005-11-21 Thread Richard Gaskin
Mathewson wrote: PCs running FREE (as in, you only pay the IT-bloke to install the stuff) software flattens the playing field quite effectively. A usable installer would level the playing field even more. -- Richard Gaskin Managing Editor, revJournal

Re: Message in an unprotected field...

2005-11-21 Thread Pierre Bernaert
Many Thanks for your Help, I tried this: On SelectionChanged Put the selectedChunk end SelectionChanged which gave what I was looking for : where the selection point is when changed. Le 21 nov. 05 à 19:33, Martin Baxter a écrit : Pierre Bernaert wrote: Clicking somewhere into it

Usable installers ?

2005-11-21 Thread Mathewson
Gosh, Richard Gaskin has obviously got the 'rough end' of Linux. Awfully sorry Richard, But have just installed Ubuntu 5.10 i386 on 4 fairly crappy old Pentium 3s: it was unbelievably easy . . . Frankly my knowledge of Linux would leave space on a US 1 cent coin! about 5 years ago I tried to

RE: Living together BUT not married: RR/MC and Linux

2005-11-21 Thread Lynn Fredricks
I never claimed that partially-open projects could not be made with Rev. All I said is that if a purchaser requires a FULLY OPEN solution, by definition that cannot include Rev (or for that matter Windows, OS X, or any other non-open parts). Partially-open solutions are a separate

Usable Installers ?

2005-11-21 Thread Mathewson
While I am on the topic of installers I thought I would point out that when I installed RR for Linux it was extremely straightforward, BUT, it did NOT install where the documentation said that it would. sincerely, Richmond __ See Mathewson's

RE: combine behavior

2005-11-21 Thread Harvey Toyama
Hi Jan, Thanks. Your solutions work. I wish a numeric sort were a switch enabled behavior for combine, though. -- Harvey -- -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jan Schenkel Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 11:07 AM To: How to use Revolution

Re: Usable installers ?

2005-11-21 Thread Ken Ray
On 11/21/05 3:21 PM, Mathewson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gosh, Richard Gaskin has obviously got the 'rough end' of Linux. No, I think Richard was talking about installers for other programs (not for installing Linux) and the lack of a consistent way of installing 3rd party programs on various

Re: Usable installers ?

2005-11-21 Thread Richard Gaskin
Ken Ray wrote: On 11/21/05 3:21 PM, Mathewson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gosh, Richard Gaskin has obviously got the 'rough end' of Linux. No, I think Richard was talking about installers for other programs (not for installing Linux) and the lack of a consistent way of installing 3rd party

Re: Usable installers ?

2005-11-21 Thread Dan Shafer
At least one brand of Linux does a wonderful job of facilitating the download and installation of applications and development software for Linux. Linspire has a CNR - Click-N-Run technology that even I can use with great ease. :-D On Nov 21, 2005, at 2:04 PM, Ken Ray wrote: On 11/21/05

Re: Filter Command

2005-11-21 Thread Gregory Lypny
Thanks Eric, Alex and Jim, I'm going to give your debugging suggestion a shot. Greg ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription

Usable installers ?

2005-11-21 Thread Mathewson
The installation system for Linspire is much more consistent than that for most other types of Linux. Linspire is a commercial Linux variant - and, Yes, Richard Gaskin, you do get what you pay for! However that was not my point; my point was that some people cannot pay for anything at all, and

Re: Usable installers ?

2005-11-21 Thread Richard Gaskin
Mathewson wrote: The installation system for Linspire is much more consistent than that for most other types of Linux. Linspire is a commercial Linux variant - and, Yes, Richard Gaskin, you do get what you pay for! I was sold on Linspire years ago: I have it installed on two systems. IMHO,

Macedonia, Ubuntu, RR and a few rude words about Visual Basic

2005-11-21 Thread Mathewson
Here's one good reason for a FREE Linux version of RR to be readily available: Macedonia is going over to Ubuntu ( http://www.metamorphosis.org.mk/eng_vesti_detal.asp?id=291 ), and, presumably, some poor students are going to have to learn programming skills xTalk / Transcript is a very

Near completion of Color Pattern Toolkit: IDE, engine, and font problems (part 1)

2005-11-21 Thread Wilhelm Sanke
While working on the public release of the Pattern Toolkit, by means of which the images of the pattern galleries Pattern Art and Pattern Art Two were created (see respective links on website http://www.sanke.org/MetaMedia), I encountered some new and revisited older problems that - at least

Re: Difference between Step over and Run

2005-11-21 Thread Jim Hurley
I have noticed in the debugger that there is quite a difference in time of execution between Step over and Run even when Run takes me to the very next line of code--a line which is also a break point. When the handler to be Stepped over is complex, the time to execute Step over can

[OT] Security Goes Visual

2005-11-21 Thread Scott Rossi
The recent thread regarding thinking graphically reminded of a recent update my bank made to enhance protection for online banking customers: they added a visual aspect to the login process. When logging into your account, you must now choose an image from a library containing hundreds

Re: revCommon library not part of app

2005-11-21 Thread Sarah Reichelt
I have a weird problem at the moment. I have an app that works perfectly in the IDE, but fails when built. After many tests, I found that the scripts just stopped running when they encountered either revChangeWindowSize or revMacFromUnixPath. Both these commands are part of the revCommon

Re: Difference between Step over and Run

2005-11-21 Thread J. Landman Gay
Jim Hurley wrote: I have noticed in the debugger that there is quite a difference in time of execution between Step over and Run I think this is because of the traceDelay. When you are debugging, every step includes a pause equivalent to the traceDelay setting. When you run, the

RE: [OT] Security Goes Visual

2005-11-21 Thread MisterX
Scott Most of those changes are made to work against keyloggers, and bots... http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/11/18/keylogger_growth_survey/ cheers Xavier -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Rossi Sent: Tuesday, 22 November,

group syntax question

2005-11-21 Thread Mark Wieder
All- Is there an easier way to get the label of the selected radio button in a group? I've got several occurrences where I've got something like the following ugly syntax. It seems like there should be something more intuitive, but I can't seem to come up with it. switch the label of button (the

Re: group syntax question

2005-11-21 Thread Richard Gaskin
Mark Wieder wrote: All- Is there an easier way to get the label of the selected radio button in a group? I've got several occurrences where I've got something like the following ugly syntax. It seems like there should be something more intuitive, but I can't seem to come up with it. switch the

Re: group syntax question

2005-11-21 Thread xavier . bury
Mark! That's funny! The Active search stack uses that same function in the search button! ;) BTW, did you get my modified stack? Xavier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 22/11/2005 07:59:07: Mark Wieder wrote: All- Is there an easier way to get the label of the selected radio button in a

Re: group syntax question

2005-11-21 Thread Phil Davis
Hi Mark, You could add a line of code like the following in the group script: on mouseUp set the uTargetLabel of me to the label of the target end mouseUp That would reduce the ugliness a little: switch (the uTargetLabel of grp gpFilter) etc. Just an idea... Phil Davis Mark Wieder

Re: You Either Think Graphically or You Don't

2005-11-21 Thread Judy Perry
Dan, For the record, And we agree again! (are pigs taking to space everywhere? Take a look out your windows...) :-) Judy On Mon, 21 Nov 2005, Dan Shafer wrote: Every year I receive hundreds of emails and correspondence from people who seek advice about starting or continuing their writing

Re: [OT] Security Goes Visual

2005-11-21 Thread Judy Perry
Yikes and people already have problems with maintaining hopefully unique logins/passwords for every blasted computer thingy they do... Judy On Mon, 21 Nov 2005, Scott Rossi wrote: Pretty soon we'll have to start keeping track of all our visual passwords, either in an image database, or

Re: group syntax question

2005-11-21 Thread Eric Chatonet
Hi Mark, Afraid not with this method... More redeable like this? put the label of btn ID (the hilitedButtonID of grp gpFilter) into tCurBtnLabel switch tCurBtnLabel Le 22 nov. 05 à 07:55, Mark Wieder a écrit : Is there an easier way to get the label of the selected radio button in a

Re: group syntax question

2005-11-21 Thread Mark Wieder
Richard- Monday, November 21, 2005, 10:59:07 PM, you wrote: do (the uAction of the hilitedbutton of grp gpFilter) ...interesting idea, but I don't want to trigger an event when the radio button is selected, I just want to be able to query it later on. I suppose I could have the mouseUp event

Object Orientation in arrays

2005-11-21 Thread xavier . bury
hello scripters Just wondering what scripters feel like about a few possible uses of arrays as objects... Way back in HyperCard, where no arrays existed, we did the good old approach repeat with x = ... get item x of anything do put it into object X Thanks to Scott Raney, we can use

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