Garrett Hylltun wrote:
Greetings,
How do I delete one field of data from a delimited string? Such as:
item 1,item 2, item 3, item 4
And I want to delete item 3 from the delimited string so that I end
up with:
item 1,item 2, item 4
Thanks,
-Garrett
put Ya,boo,hoo into tmp
delete item
Wishing, indeed, that there was such ensuing 'good humor'... as opposed to
rancour.
:-(
Am I the only remaining non-Vulcan??
Judy
On Sat, 25 Feb 2006, Dick Kriesel wrote:
Is there a Transcript implementation of dot syntax? Or how do non-dot
people learn about the benefits of dots? If the
Am I the only remaining non-Vulcan??
Live long and prosper. :-)
Scott
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On Feb 25, 2006, at 6:01 PM, Dan Shafer wrote:
Would you rather have:
(a) No object orientation
(b) OO with the current syntax with poor performance
or
(c) OO with dot notation and acceptable performance
I'm not saying those are the *only* choices but they're the big ones.
Off the top of
On Feb 25, 2006, at 10:59 PM, Scott Kane wrote:
What do dots enable that
Transcript does not?
Properties and methods.
Objects can already have properties, and methods as well. They can't
have _inherited_ methods -- at least not in the traditional OO sense.
An object inherits methods
On Feb 26, 2006, at 12:06 AM, Martin Baxter wrote:
Garrett Hylltun wrote:
Greetings,
How do I delete one field of data from a delimited string? Such as:
item 1,item 2, item 3, item 4
And I want to delete item 3 from the delimited string so that I
end up with:
item 1,item 2, item 4
Thanks,
(f) multi-channel sound support (I put this one in for Scott Rossi)
Ooooh! I'd like that.
Scott
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At 12:20 AM -0800 2/26/2006, Geoff Canyon wrote:
(g) co-routines
(h) anonymous functions
What are co-routines and anonymous functions? (Curious...)
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Without personal attacks, (well, as much as is human) my responses are
below:
On Sat, 25 Feb 2006, Dan Shafer wrote:
Perhaps more to the point, can you name ANY surviving xTalk? Nope.
They're all pretty much dead except for Transcript. I could argue with
equal weight and perhaps a tad less
Judy.
I preferred to take this off-llist. You chose to make it a public
fight. I choose not to engage.
I did not intend that anyone would see my comment about paranoia as an
attack on any individual or indeed on any specific position on this
issue. I was referring to the general level of
You and me both... for many a year now!!!
'cuz I look really stupid -- no, even stupider than people think I am,
really -- when I offer up to my students Scott Raney's explanation that
'it can't be done on Windows'...
Judy
On Sun, 26 Feb 2006, Scott Kane wrote:
(f) multi-channel sound
On Feb 26, 2006, at 12:41 AM, Dan Shafer wrote:
Judy.
I preferred to take this off-llist. You chose to make it a public
fight. I choose not to engage.
I did not intend that anyone would see my comment about paranoia as an
attack on any individual or indeed on any specific position on this
The Secret Cause of Flame Wars
By Stephen Leahy
Don't work too hard, wrote a colleague in an e-mail
today. Was she sincere or sarcastic? I think I know
(sarcastic), but I'm probably wrong.
According to recent research published in the Journal
of Personality and Social
On 26 Feb 2006, at 09:04, Richard Gaskin wrote:
The Secret Cause of Flame Wars
By Stephen Leahy
Don't work too hard, wrote a colleague in an e-mail
today. Was she sincere or sarcastic? I think I know
(sarcastic), but I'm probably wrong.
According to recent research published
The Secret Cause of Flame Wars
By Stephen Leahy
That's why the :-) ;-) :-( :-O
are so useful... -)
Scott
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On Feb 26, 2006, at 12:33 AM, Jeanne A. E. DeVoto wrote:
At 12:20 AM -0800 2/26/2006, Geoff Canyon wrote:
(g) co-routines
(h) anonymous functions
What are co-routines and anonymous functions? (Curious...)
A co-routine is kind of like a thread except that it only yields time
at certain
Hello Garrett,
Let me mention that in some other problem, you could need to keep room
for a further value of an item 3; then it would be :
put item 1,item 2, item 3, item 4 into tmp
put empty into item 3 of tmp
put tmp
tmp = item 1,item 2,, item 4
Thus later, you can do :
put new value into
On 2/26/06, Sivakatirswami [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Before I start a research project, let me ask: if your platform is
Mac OSX and you want to make application icons for both Mac and
Windows: what are our best tools?
I use Iconographer and find it really good.
Sarah
Garrett,
From the brief readings of your few previous posts, it's apparent while
you have very little history with our list and community, you are
certainly quick to join in the fray.
Both Judy and Dan are respected list members, who both have contributed
over a long time to this list,
Hi Sivaktirswami!
You may already know about it, but I have a full tutorial on making
cross platform icons for rev at:
http://www.altuit.com/webs/altuit2/StandaloneBuilderTutorial/BuildingIconsforMacOSXandWindowsXP.htm
best,
Chipp
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Hi,
Has anyone seen problems with inclusion of script libraries in Rev
2.7? I've been trying Quartam Reports and have included the XML
libraries in the standalone. On the Mac this work fine, on Windows
Quartam can't find the XML libraries. I've written to Jan on this,
but I'm not sure
People, this is not cool. Sleep time.
cheers
David
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On Feb 26, 2006, at 2:24 AM, Chipp Walters wrote:
Garrett,
From the brief readings of your few previous posts, it's apparent
while you have very little history with our list and community, you
are certainly quick to join in the fray.
Both Judy and Dan are respected list members, who
Hello,
Did you place Rev's folder in a folder containing accented chars. In
that case Revolution Online (as it is the case for the documentation)
misbehave.
Submitted as bug 3355 ( 3337). The bug concerning the Documentation
was present in previous versions, acknowledged and promised to be
Ahh, the Good Ol' Boy system, and since I'm the new kid on the
block, it's not my place to voice my opinion on something that came
through this list. But since Judy and Dan are part of the Good Ol'
Boy system, it's ok for them to voice their opinion, even
have a flame.
*Sigh*
Scott
A very respectful Hi to all on the forum,
I bought Revolution recently, and although I used Hypercard for many
years, and pushed it pretty hard, I understand that my learning curve
to Revolution will be long and eye-opening. I came on to this forum to
learn, and pretty quickly found several
Some exciting developments occurred this week.
1. fixed the windows xp problem
2. adapted Scott Rossi's PayPal button script
http://lists.runrev.com/pipermail/use-revolution/2005-May/058039.html
This button allowed me (after about 2+ hours of fiddling with it between
classes) to launch the
classMyObject:
def __init__ (self):
self.initialize()
def initialize(self):
self._value=None
def _setProperty (self, name, value):
print set property
setattr (self, name, value)
def _getProperty (self, name):
print get property
Couldn't resist not putting this on the list!
Regards ... Bob
The Spanish Computer
A Spanish teacher was explaining to her class that in
Spanish, unlike English, nouns are designated as
either masculine or feminine.
House for instance, is feminine: la casa.BRBRPencil, however,
is masculine:
On Feb 23, 2006, at 2:45 AM, Some Guy wrote:
This sucks.
On Feb 23, 2006, at 2:51 AM, Some Gal wrote:
No it doesn't
On Feb 23, 2006, at 2:52 AM, Some Guy wrote:
Yes it does.
On Feb 23, 2006, at 2:52 AM, Some Gal wrote:
Why can't you respect my feelings?
On Feb 23, 2006, at 2:53 AM, Some
This is actually a great idea. Francis.
Thanks
Tom
On Feb 26, 2006, at 7:40 AM, Francis Nugent Dixon wrote:
In your Subject, please indicate by codes (1), (2), (3), etc. the
type of post that you are sending :
Type (1) posts concern xxx
Type (2) posts concern yyy
etc.
Thomas J McGrath
Thanks Rand,
I had the same problem, so I downloaded the most recent version of
(free) StuffIt Expander
Tried it and this worked for me too. But only on Tiger. My main
computer is running OS 10.2.8, and even with the latest version of
Expander, the problem remains. This problem probably
if you guys allow me to squeeze a few words in this (hot) thread,
I'd like to say that the initial post by Dan Shafer contains a couple of
sentences that I would qualify as, ahem embarrassing, especially
due to Dan's huge contribution to the xTalk world for many years...
actually it reminds me of
Dan, Richard, et al:
Just
making dot syntax an alternative -- or even implementing OO syntax
using it -- doesn't have to corrupt the underlying Transcript syntax
*except* for those people who choose an OO approach to their Rev
projects.
So dot syntax is optional...UNLESS people choose to use
Hi Garrett,
Ahh, the Good Ol' Boy system
No, it's the family system.
Some of us began these discussions over 15 years ago on the early
HyperCard lists. We have discussed many on- and off-topic issues over
the years, publicly and privately. We explore off topic issues more
broadly than
Geoff-
Sunday, February 26, 2006, 12:20:10 AM, you wrote:
Heck, I think I could implement a significant chunk of OO in Rev as
it stands right now, and it wouldn't even take that long. Just insert
a front script, tag an object with a custom property representing its
class, test the class of
Dude, your rights to post to this list are rapidly diminishing. This
list is MODERATED, and Runrev and the listmom reserve the right to
boot you at any time, for any reason they wish.
I'd say cool it - for the rest of us, and for your own sake, if you
want to get anything out of this list.
I agree, but this is just human nature. People will always over-quote
and forget to change or redefine the topic headers, despite what
others might organize. And it's unenforceable. It will never happen
on any list, in the long run, unless it's dictated by company mandate
and one could get
Tom-
Saturday, February 25, 2006, 8:11:17 PM, you wrote:
I just uploaded/shared a stack on friday.
OK. Thanks for the confirmation. Somehow the revOnline fingerprint got
corrupted. I deleted it and the revonline entry and uploaded the stack
again and all is well. PITA though, especially with
I have slept on this. I have decided to take the advice of my wife and
other sages whose wisdom I admire. It is better to be happy than
right. This picture is not who I am or who I want to be, here or
anywhere else.
I sincerely apologize to Judy, and to any member of the list who was
insulted by
Those of us who haved trained our brains to think in those terms
does not seem to me to imply any claim of superiority, just the very
differences that you point out. I am sorry if you thought that was an
embarrassing comment about which I ought to feel some shame.
But I'm bowing, scraping, and
I've tried to wrap my head around this object/class stuff 20 times.
It just doesn't speak to me. My brain doesn't work this way, and I
wasted 300 bucks on Real Basic about 5 years ago trying it out.
Couldn't make one thing work. C and it's derivatives were just too
verbose and had to generate
Mark
Interesting implementation. My guess is that it's not going to be very
efficient in execution, but perhaps we just throw more hardware at it
as someone else has suggested.
The real problem for me is that it's not possible to create subclasses
of components. The recently departed Xavier
Dan,
Those of us who haved trained our brains to think in those terms
does not seem to me to imply any claim of superiority, just the very
differences that you point out. I am sorry if you thought that was an
embarrassing comment about which I ought to feel some shame.
well again my poor
Dear Revvers
Haven't used rev for a while - what am I doing wrong?
I created a function to add a named card to a stack like this:
function addCard cardname
create card cardname
end addCard
When I run it from the message box like this: addCard(AnotherCard), it
creates the new card twice!
Gordon,
in which script is your addCard function located ?
Dear Revvers
Haven't used rev for a while - what am I doing wrong?
I created a function to add a named card to a stack like this:
function addCard cardname
create card cardname
end addCard
When I run it from the message
On Feb 26, 2006, at 10:08 AM, Mark Wieder wrote:
That's sort of what I'm doing now. Inheritance is actually fairly
easy. The hard part is that scripts are associated with screen objects
- you can't have objects that don't have screen representations.
For instance, I have a linked-list class
On Feb 26, 2006, at 11:26 AM, Gordon Webster wrote:
function addCard cardname
create card cardname
end addCard
Not sure about the creating the card twice part, but try changing
to a handler:
on addCard cardname
create card cardname
end addCard
regards,
Geoff
It's in the stack script of the stack to which I'm trying to add the card. It's
the only stack in my prototype library at the moment, but in anticipation of it
being used as a library in other applications, I even had some code ahead of
the add card line to set the defaultstack and so forth.
Understood.
Paradox is inevitable. Resolution of paradox leads to new truth. And
that's quite enough philosophizing for me for one day.
:-)
On 2/26/06, jbv [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dan,
Those of us who haved trained our brains to think in those terms
does not seem to me to imply any
I'll watch for it.
On 2/26/06, Geoff Canyon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Right now it supports classes but no inheritance. I should have that
complete in a few minutes, at which point I'll upload version .1
--
~~
Dan Shafer, Information Product Consultant and
On 2/26/06 10:08 AM, Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Inheritance is actually fairly
easy. The hard part is that scripts are associated with screen objects
- you can't have objects that don't have screen representations.
Another approach distinguishes between Rev objects and domain
On Feb 25, 2006, at 10:59 PM, Scott Kane wrote:
What do dots enable that
Transcript does not?
Properties and methods.
Objects can already have properties, and methods as well. They can't
have _inherited_ methods -- at least not in the traditional IO sense.
An object inherits methods
Hi,
Is there or will there be Third Party Objects/Controls available.
For Example
Dials
LED Displays
LCD Displays
Graphs
and such like !
Being an ex Visual Basic/Studio programmer its something that's urgently need !
Camm
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Recently, Camm29 wrote:
Is there or will there be Third Party Objects/Controls available.
For Example
Dials
LED Displays
LCD Displays
Graphs
and such like !
There will be.
In the meantime, can you point (link) to any specific examples of what
you're looking for?
Regards,
Scott
Gordon Webster wrote:
I created a function to add a named card to a stack like this:
function addCard cardname
create card cardname
end addCard
When I run it from the message box like this: addCard(AnotherCard),
it creates the new card twice!
Before I run this function, the 'cardnames'
Stuff like ,
www.maani.us/gauge
www.dundas.com
These have to be a must for RunRev
Regards
- Original Message -
From: Scott Rossi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2006 9:15 PM
Subject: Re: Graphics , Objects and
Sorry , and another
www.9Rays.net
Camm
- Original Message -
From: Camm29 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2006 9:35 PM
Subject: Re: Graphics , Objects and Controls
Stuff like ,
www.maani.us/gauge
www.dundas.com
Greetings André
Thanks for this also, as it will be handy later in my project :-)
-Garrett
On Feb 26, 2006, at 2:13 AM, André.Bisseret wrote:
Hello Garrett,
Let me mention that in some other problem, you could need to keep
room for a further value of an item 3; then it would be :
put
Hello List,
It's been a while since I've posted here, but I've got a question about
something that's been bugging me for a long time. I'm trying to utilize the
filter container with regex command as opposed to looping through a list as
much as possible. Reason: it's faster. The only
dreamscapesoftware.com - List wrote:
Hello List,
It's been a while since I've posted here, but I've got a question about something that's been bugging me for a long time. I'm trying to utilize the filter container with regex command as opposed to looping through a list as much as possible.
capellan wrote:
Hi Marty,
i have made a stack to export vectors to pdf.
Alejandro - Great stack BTW. I don't understand it all, but it exports a
nice high-rez version of Rev images to PDF. You might want to let us
know where this stack can be downloaded, as I've long forgotten (I
suffer
Has anyone got the print command using the form 'from [topleft] to
[bottomright]' to work properly? I haven't tested this on Windows but
on a Mac (OS 10.3, Rev 2.6 and 2.7) 'offscreen' elements aren't printed
even though (according to the documentation) they should be.
Cheers,
Terry...
Dr
Hi,
I trying to print
On mouseUp
Print this cd from topLeft to rightBottom
End mouseUp
I get an error
executing at 5:28:58 PM
Typeprint: coordinate not a point
ObjectPrint
Lineprint cd from topLeft to righBottom
HinttopLeft
Thank you Hershel
On 2/26/06 5:31 PM, Terry Judd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
According tho doc. Its topLeft to rightBottom
Where its bottomRight which returns an integer when done in the message box,
but in a button returns the same error.
Hershel
Has anyone got the print command using the form 'from [topleft] to
Recently, Camm29 wrote:
Is there or will there be Third Party Objects/Controls available.
There will be.
In the meantime, can you point (link) to any specific examples of what
you're looking for?
www.maani.us/gauge
www.dundas.com
www.9Rays.net
These have to be a must for RunRev
Up
Like other users on this list, I also see serious stability problems with Rev
2.7 under WinXP. I have experienced several crashes while editing and testing
scripts, none of which seem to have any consistent pattern. I will try and
figure out what I was doing when the crashes occurred so that I
Is there a way I can detect when my main stack receives the openStack
message versus when my substacks receives the message and pass it all
the way down to the mainstack? I do once only initialization in my
mainstack, and I can't seem to reliably detect when a substack is
triggering the
No stability issues here. Just tried the repeat loop with no crashes
here at all. Tried to put lines in between the repeats at each point
and no crashes or errors.
Rev 2.7, Win XP
Tom
On Feb 26, 2006, at 9:12 PM, Gordon Webster wrote:
I am a fan of Rev but I feel compelled to say that it
Just tried this in Win XP in the regular script editor and I get:
on doSomething -- placed cursor here and hit Enter
beep
end doSomething
with no extra end statement.
Tom
On Feb 26, 2006, at 10:11 PM, Mark Smith wrote:
FYI, not that it'll be much consolation, but Constellation does
Hershel Fisch wrote:
On 2/26/06 5:31 PM, Terry Judd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
According tho doc. Its topLeft to rightBottom
Where its bottomRight which returns an integer when done in the message box,
but in a button returns the same error.
The term for getting a set of coordinates is
Terry Judd wrote:
Has anyone got the print command using the form 'from [topleft] to
[bottomright]' to work properly? I haven't tested this on Windows but on
a Mac (OS 10.3, Rev 2.6 and 2.7) 'offscreen' elements aren't printed
even though (according to the documentation) they should be.
Before Lingo adopted dot notation, it had an intermediate parent-child
xTalk varietal approach. I've forgotten now how it worked but I
recall it was hard to learn and very slow.
That may or may not have any bearing on this design, however.
On 2/26/06, Mark Brownell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On
FWIW,
RevOnline stopped working in my department's Mac lab (OS 9, regrettably)
nearly a year ago.
I can't blame Rev for it, as we're on our third sysadmin in less than that
many years, the current and prior one both being current/former students,
and the department has quite frankly let the Mac
I know this has been a long thread, but...
I am not sure how Revolution ISN't already OO? I create groups of objects to
achieve some specific task (during my authoring stage) then during runtime
in the compiled app, I clone that group with the attributes (approx 200 to
300 variable states plus
Problem is, I don't know of any emoticons that say:
I make this argument in all sincerity with no covert aspersions on your
character.
Unless you'd like to point me to it, of course (I could so clearly use it
in my arsenal...).
Judy
On Sun, 26 Feb 2006, Scott Kane wrote:
The Secret Cause
Richard Gaskin wrote:
Arthur Urban wrote:
Is there a way I can detect when my main stack receives the openStack
message versus when my substacks receives the message and pass it all
the way down to the mainstack? I do once only initialization in my
mainstack, and I can't seem to reliably
Arthur Urban wrote:
Richard Gaskin wrote:
If you put your mainStack's initialization into the card script of
your mainStack you never need to worry about substacks triggering it.
That sure is mighty clever...I might even have to do that. I'm surprised
that there is no official and correct
All,
I'd rather stick pins in my eyes. Seriously: what is gained here
that can't be accomplished with either a) copy and paste (my
favourite) or b) object duplication (my next favourite)?
I have programmed in virtually every language extant (and many no
longer), including most machine
Well, certainly Revolution is OO-like, but it's hard for me coming from
a strong OOD/OOP background to see it as a legitimate OO offering. The
number one rule of encapsulation seems broken most of the time in
xtalk-like languages. When I have multiple buttons on a card that have
the same
It's nice to see some new 'old school' programmers on this list! What
a great perspective...
welcome aboard to this listif you've just been lurking until now..
sqb
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s a n f r a n c i s c o
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email until now, a good or nearly 24 hours after the initial
conflagration, in order to try to gain some balance and composure and
understanding.
I've got a big mouth, by which I mean to convey that I am an opinionated
Love conquers all!!
It's a beautiful world today.
sqb
And so I apologize to Dan for having offended him.
Judy
On Sun, 26 Feb 2006, Dan Shafer wrote:
I have slept on this. I have decided to take the advice of my wife and
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No!
Dan: does not progress occur more often when people disagree than when
they agree?
What is the incentive for progress when everyone is one big mass of
contented, happy campers? (the Rev list comes to mind, for instance: is
it everybody being supremely contented that moves the company to
Mark-
Sunday, February 26, 2006, 12:36:57 PM, you wrote:
Perhaps a few of you around here will find this funny, I could do
an implementation of OOPs with a pull-parser. The trick to creating
a child object is to assign attributes of the parent object to a
child object. What is needed during
I'll watch for it.
Me, too.
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on preOpenStack
if the short name of this stack = the short name of me then
-- do initialization
end if
end preOpenStack
Maybe this is the better way, because you can control the message even if
your main stack has more than one card.
Greetings
Paul Claude
in octal on the face of the ``computer'' to initialise the ``boot-
loader'' so that the machine could get started.
Sometimes I miss converting hex and oct into decimal.
I started my professional career (as opposed to my teenage
programming) programming Data Checker DTS cash registers.
The
I'd rather stick pins in my eyes.
Kids, don't try this at home... ;-)
Scott
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