Re: OT: Is there a more English-like Programming language than Transcript?

2006-08-15 Thread Andre Garzia
ho ho ho I am smiling now!!! :-) On Aug 15, 2006, at 12:45 AM, Sivakatirswami wrote: OK, so, we have this 2 minute window to talk with him about what we do while he boots up Powerpoint on his 17 Macbook Pro. His first question was: Hmmm, interesting, what is that coded in? he's a super

Re: [OT] When does VersionTracker hilite an application in blue?

2006-08-15 Thread Wally Rodriguez
I believe the developer pays a fee for the highlighted listing... W. On Aug 13, 2006, at 7:10 AM, Richmond Mathewson wrote: The RR upgrade (2.7.3) was listed on Versiontracker in plain black. I notice that upgrades that somebody ( ? ? Who ? ? ) considers important are listed in blue; and

Re: OT: Is there a more English-like Programming language than Transcript?

2006-08-15 Thread Peter T. Evensen
I hesitate to bring this up, but one problem with Revolution is the name. It is a unsearchable name. Image this guy going and Googling Revolution. Will the RunRev site come up? It's the 6th link when I do it, and it comes up after Revolution Software which sounds like what one would want.

Re: OT: Is there a more English-like Programming language than Transcript?

2006-08-15 Thread simplsol
You can be more specific with more knowledgeable people. When I travel overseas and people ask where I'm from, I say The United States. When people ask in the US, I say California. If they live on the west coast, I'll probably say Los Angeles. If they live in California, I'll just say LA. If

Message strangeness in 2.7.3

2006-08-15 Thread Chris Carroll-Davis
Hello all - I have a weird issue that *seems* to have started since upgrading to 2.7.3. On a project that I am working on, if I double-click on the file to open project and launch Rev at the same time, preopenstack, openstack, preopencard and opencard (of the 1st card) are not sent.

Re: OT: Is there a more English-like Programming languagethan Transcript?

2006-08-15 Thread jbv
The problem is Revolution is a normal word. Other names, like ReadBasic, are more unique, and will always take you to where you want to go. mh... what about RealRevolution...;-) JB ___ use-revolution mailing list

Revolution as a good name for programming software?

2006-08-15 Thread Bill
You have a very good point. Java is an example of nearly the best possible name for a programming language. It is a normal word but not such a common one. It is such a cool name that JavaScript took the name too. I think part of the success of Java was because of the name. But... Isn't it a

RevTalk . . .

2006-08-15 Thread Richmond Mathewson
RevTalk gets my vote. Transcript is just as awkward as Revolution for web searches (try it!!!). I suppose somebody ought to set up a poll somewhere. sincerely, Richmond Mathewson Philosophical problems are confusions arising owing

Re: OT: Is there a more English-like Programming language than Transcript?

2006-08-15 Thread Chipp Walters
Excellent point Paul. You often say the most interesting things! Thanks again for the advice about pricing you gave at the conference. I've implemented it on ButtonGadget and it seems to work :-) On 8/15/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can be more specific with more

Anyone use Simplehost ISP for Rev as CGI?

2006-08-15 Thread RGould8
I'm trying to use my ISP (www.simplehost.com), as a host for a Revolution CGI. I'm getting a bit confused about the cgi-bin folder, vs. the scgi-bin folder, and the exact Revolution engine I should be uploading. Has anyone else tried installing Revolution as a CGI on simplehost.com?

Re: Revolution 2.7.3 released, support for U3

2006-08-15 Thread Bob Warren
On 12/8/06 16:45, Richard Gaskin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And as Rev developers, it's always been a trivial matter for us to deliver fully self-contained apps which run from removable media without needing to modify the host computer. While Rev's work in the U3-specific additions are

Re: Scrolling List Field

2006-08-15 Thread John Baxter
Thanks for the help. You guys are great. I've got most everything working except for the font issue. I have a mainstack with a TabField. I use this code: on openStack put empty into field TabField end openStack I have two palettes, each one uses a different font. Palette1 - buttons use this

Re: Scrolling List Field

2006-08-15 Thread Mark Smith
To do this, I think you'll have to explicitly set the textFont of the text you have just placed in fld TabField. The text you have placed in the global variable chord has no font property - it is simply text. So you might put something like this at the end of the placeChord handler: put

Re: OT: Is there a more English-like Programming language than Transcript?

2006-08-15 Thread Stephen Barncard
Type in 'Runtime Revolution', its formal long name, and it comes up first. I always refer to 'Runtime' when speaking to others about it.. I hesitate to bring this up, but one problem with Revolution is the name. It is a unsearchable name. Image this guy going and Googling Revolution. Will

Galaxy Studio is available for Windows and MacOS X

2006-08-15 Thread Bob Warren
And since Rev is supposed to be cross-platform, it will also be available for Linux too after Rev 2.7 appears Bob ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage

Re: OT: Is there a more English-like Programming language, than Transcript?

2006-08-15 Thread Bob Warren
Peter T. Evensen wrote: The problem is Revolution is a normal word. Other names, like ReadBasic, are more unique, and will always take you to where you want to go. And my site, which mentions the name Revolution quite a lot, is constantly visited by the US military.

Windows standalone application to foreground upon un-minimizing?

2006-08-15 Thread Jon Seymour
Hello, When I minimize a standalone application for Win32 made with Rev, then click its button in the task bar at the bottom of the screen, my application's window is drawn behind other apps that are currently open. I've never observed this behavior before with mainstream Windows apps as

Re: OT: Is there a more English-like Programming language, than Transcript?

2006-08-15 Thread Richard Gaskin
Bob Warren wrote: And my site, which mentions the name Revolution quite a lot, is constantly visited by the US military. I wonder why? Getting started early for this year's Jam Echelon Day on Oct. 21, eh? :) -- Richard Gaskin Managing Editor, revJournal

Galaxy/Constellation

2006-08-15 Thread Dave LeYanna
What is the relationship between these two products. I don't see anything on Daniels Mara’s site about Constellation. Dave ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your

Re: Galaxy/Constellation

2006-08-15 Thread Jerry Daniels
Constellation has been replaced by Galaxy. Read all about it on our RevSelect blog: http://www.revdeveloper.com/include/blog/revselect/daniels_mara/?p=6 Best, Jerry Daniels Tool makers for the 21st century http://www.daniels-mara.com On Aug 15, 2006, at 2:05 PM, Dave LeYanna wrote:

Re: Scrolling List Field

2006-08-15 Thread Jim Ault
On 8/15/06 10:59 AM, John Baxter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What I'm trying to do is mix font styles in the mainstack field when I do the mouseUp from each Palette. I experimented with different code, but can't get the inserted characters to display in the proper font. Be careful of the mixed

Can Rev as CGI pull an URL's HTML into a variable?

2006-08-15 Thread RGould8
Is the put URL command something that is not permitted when running Rev as a CGI? I'm getting no data back when I run this short script. (I just put Google in as a sample URL) #!revolution on startup put Content-Type: text/plain cr cr put $QUERY_STRING into searchstring put

Windows NT

2006-08-15 Thread Peter T. Evensen
Has anyone here successfully run a standalone on Windows NT with version 2.7.x? With 2.7.2 or 2.7.3 I get the following: Entry Point Not Found The procedure entry point SHGetSpecialFolderPathA could not be located in teh dynamic link library shell32.dll Peter T. Evensen

Re: Can Rev as CGI pull an URL's HTML into a variable?

2006-08-15 Thread Phil Davis
Don't you need to be using libURL for this to work? So before you issue 'put url', your CGI would need to 'start using' a stack that includes libUrl. Phil Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is the put URL command something that is not permitted when running Rev as a CGI? I'm getting no data

Re: Can Rev as CGI pull an URL's HTML into a variable?

2006-08-15 Thread RGould8
In a message dated 8/15/06 3:36:02 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Don't you need to be using libURL for this to work? So before you issue 'put url', your CGI would need to 'start using' a stack that includes libUrl. Phil Davis I think I understand what you're saying - - - now since I'm

Re: OT: Is there a more English-like Programming languagethan Transcript?

2006-08-15 Thread Robert Sneidar
But what if they were searching for the French localized version of Revolution? Would they search for FrenchRevolution? Would google faithfully reply, Did you mean, 'French Revolution?' and so misdirect the user? Germany never had a revolution that I know if. They have historically been

Re: Can Rev as CGI pull an URL's HTML into a variable?

2006-08-15 Thread Phil Davis
In the IDE, you can create a stack (named inetCode below) and copy button revLibUrl of stack revlibrary to it. Then in the stack script: on libraryStack insert script of btn revLibUrl of this stack into back end libraryStack Near the beginning of your CGI script, you would then have this

Re: Can Rev as CGI pull an URL's HTML into a variable?

2006-08-15 Thread Phil Davis
Second thoughts... An alternate approach would be to forget the 'libraryStack' handler and just set the script of your new stack to the script of the revLiburl button. Then do everything else as already stated. This is a little more simple conceptually. Phil Phil Davis wrote: In the IDE,

Re: Galaxy Studio is available for Windows and MacOS X

2006-08-15 Thread Jerry Daniels
Bob, We will be watching closely when Rev 2.7 for Linux comes out to see what the level of work will be for a Linux version of Galaxy. Thanks for the interest. Jerry Daniels Tool makers for the 21st century http://www.daniels-mara.com On Aug 15, 2006, at 1:25 PM, Bob Warren wrote: And

Is there a more English-like Programming language ?

2006-08-15 Thread Francis Nugent Dixon
Hi from Paris, Paul explains it well - but let's look at it another way ! It all depends on who you are, where you are, and most important, who you are talking to ! From Hypercard, through Supercard to Dreamcard, in Transcript, or WHATEVER ! I find that the majority of people I talk to have

Re: Revolution as a good name for programming software?

2006-08-15 Thread simplsol
Why not just call it Rev (many of us do so anyway)? It is short. It is a word, a verb; you rev an engine to make it go faster (perfect name for the fastest programming language). It would google well. Transcript could become Revscript and we'd all live happily ever after. Paul Looney

Re: OT: Is there a more English-like Programming language than Transcript?

2006-08-15 Thread simplsol
Chipp, Thanks for the kind words. I'm always gratified when I hear folks implement the suggestions. Dan and I had a short talk after the conference about me giving a full session to disseminate similar marketing morsels. We both concluded that those who might benefit most would probably not

Re: Scrolling List Field

2006-08-15 Thread John Baxter
Mark, The code works great for my listfield stack! The TabField on my mainstack was displaying the ukefont, but when I clicked Insert on the chord Palette, the chord was inserted without changing the existing text. Exacty what I'm trying to do. But, I'm not sure what the code would be for the

Re: Subversion and online code libraries!

2006-08-15 Thread Frank D. Engel, Jr.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I've been playing around with using Subversion for Ada code. The problem with using SVN (or any other modern version control system, for that matter) with Revolution is the fact that the source code (stacks) are binary files. That's okay for

Re: Galaxy Studio is available for Windows and MacOS X

2006-08-15 Thread Rishi Viner
Hi Jerry, On Wednesday 16 August 2006 06:46, Jerry Daniels wrote: Bob, We will be watching closely when Rev 2.7 for Linux comes out to see what the level of work will be for a Linux version of Galaxy. Thanks for the interest. Jerry Daniels Just a quick note of support for this. And a

Re: OT: Is there a more English-like Programming language than Transcript?

2006-08-15 Thread Bridger Maxwell
Hey, I was just getting the Revolution update and I happened to notice that on one of the little info screens it displays as it installs it says, You don't have to have a degree in programming to develop in Revolution. Revolution uses an easy to understand English-based language also called

Re: Subversion and online code libraries!

2006-08-15 Thread Richard Gaskin
Frank D. Engel wrote: The problem with using SVN (or any other modern version control system, for that matter) with Revolution is the fact that the source code (stacks) are binary files. That's okay for simple versioning, but it is somewhat impossible to merge changes of multiple

Re: Scrolling List Field

2006-08-15 Thread Mark Smith
John, you might try using a more generalized approach. Create a handler in the script of your UkeTab stack (the mainstack) on placeChord theChord,theFont put length(theChord) into chordLength put theChord after field TabField of me set the textFont of char (0 - chordLength) to -1 of fld

Re: Subversion and online code libraries!

2006-08-15 Thread chris bohnert
I've used subversion for awhile now. From a development tool standpoint, besides a marginal savings in disk space, the best advantage of it is to be able to pull any branch and any build by looking through the log file. Where it really shines though is when used as part of a product

Re: Can Rev as CGI pull an URL's HTML into a variable?

2006-08-15 Thread Dave Cragg
On 15 Aug 2006, at 21:30, Phil Davis wrote: Second thoughts... An alternate approach would be to forget the 'libraryStack' handler and just set the script of your new stack to the script of the revLiburl button. Then do everything else as already stated. This is a little more simple

Re: Can Rev as CGI pull an URL's HTML into a variable?

2006-08-15 Thread Phil Davis
Thanks Dave. Phil Dave Cragg wrote: On 15 Aug 2006, at 21:30, Phil Davis wrote: Second thoughts... An alternate approach would be to forget the 'libraryStack' handler and just set the script of your new stack to the script of the revLiburl button. Then do everything else as already

Re: RichText Implementation

2006-08-15 Thread Jim Lyons
Another way to solve this problem easily and elegantly, with far more capabilities than you ask for, with off-the-shelf components: 1. Forget about Rich Text Format. 2. Get a copy of altBrowser from Altuit. 3. Learn CSS. 8^) Quite seriously, Jim Lyons On Aug 13, 2006, at 2:30 PM, Jan Sælid

Re: Galaxy Studio is available for Windows and MacOS X

2006-08-15 Thread Jerry Daniels
Thanks, Rishi. So noted. Best, Jerry Daniels Tool makers for the 21st century http://www.daniels-mara.com Voice: 512.879.6286 Skype: jerry.daniels On Aug 15, 2006, at 5:59 PM, Rishi Viner wrote: Hi Jerry, On Wednesday 16 August 2006 06:46, Jerry Daniels wrote: Bob, We will be

Getting version string for standalone app

2006-08-15 Thread Devin Asay
I want to be able to dynamically update the version number of my application--the number I assign in the Standalone Application Settings--to display in my app's About substack. My idea is to read it from wherever the Standalone Application Settings stack stores it. Except after some poking

Re: Can Rev as CGI pull an URL's HTML into a variable?

2006-08-15 Thread rgould8
Thanks so much for your help! That liburl stack seems to be doing the trick - - - - except for one thing: When I run the below script as a CGI, I get, maybe 90% of the html back, but it hangs at the end for some reason. Is there a character-limit to how much text libURL can retrieve at

Re: Getting version string for standalone app

2006-08-15 Thread J. Landman Gay
Devin Asay wrote: I want to be able to dynamically update the version number of my application--the number I assign in the Standalone Application Settings--to display in my app's About substack. My idea is to read it from wherever the Standalone Application Settings stack stores it. What a

Re: Getting version string for standalone app

2006-08-15 Thread Richard Gaskin
Devin Asay wrote: I want to be able to dynamically update the version number of my application--the number I assign in the Standalone Application Settings--to display in my app's About substack. My idea is to read it from wherever the Standalone Application Settings stack stores it.

Re: Getting version string for standalone app

2006-08-15 Thread Devin Asay
Thanks, Jacque. I was hoping you were listening out there. :-) On Aug 15, 2006, at 9:52 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: Devin Asay wrote: I want to be able to dynamically update the version number of my application--the number I assign in the Standalone Application Settings--to display in my

Re: Getting version string for standalone app

2006-08-15 Thread Sarah Reichelt
On 8/16/06, J. Landman Gay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Devin Asay wrote: I want to be able to dynamically update the version number of my application--the number I assign in the Standalone Application Settings--to display in my app's About substack. My idea is to read it from wherever the

Re: Getting version string for standalone app

2006-08-15 Thread Richard Gaskin
Sarah Reichelt wrote: I want to work the other way around. I want to be able to set a version number in my application and have it transfer this to all the various settings in the Standalone Builder. Me too, so I built my own standalone builder. The Universal Binary engine broke it, and in

Re: Getting version string for standalone app

2006-08-15 Thread Mark Wieder
Devin- Tuesday, August 15, 2006, 8:38:55 PM, you wrote: So how do I read the version string that I assign in the S.A.S. stack? Or is there some easy, obvious way to read that short version string? I'm not aure this answers your question, but I store the version string in the uRIP[version] of