Re: Rev 3.0 problems

2008-09-13 Thread Chipp Walters
Peter, You might want to try a nifty tool I've worked on to help make 3.0's script editor work better for me. altXray is a plugin for Rev 3.0. It works best with altPlugin Toolbar. http://www.altuit.com/webs/altuit2/altPluginCover/About.htm It helps Rev in a number of ways: Outside Script Editor

Re: Arrays: new and old keys, i

2008-09-13 Thread Dick Kriesel
Maybe the benefit of unsorted keys is faster execution. Why wait for a sort if you don't need it? On 9/13/08 10:25 PM, "Ken Ray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> That would do me - except the most useful would be the ability to get the >> full ordered index. >> >> put the ordered keys of theDa

Re: Arrays: new and old keys, i

2008-09-13 Thread J. Landman Gay
Ken Ray wrote: "What benefit is it to the Rev developer (not the engine) to have the keys NOT sorted?" I mean, I understand why the *engine* may want to keep the keys in a special order, but every time I work with the keys of an array, either (a) I don't care what order they're in, or (b) I rea

Re: Arrays: new and old keys, i

2008-09-13 Thread Ken Ray
> That would do me - except the most useful would be the ability to get the > full ordered index. > > put the ordered keys of theDataA > > Because you want to things like: > > repeat for each key sortedKey in theDataA I've been watching this thread and I have to ask: "What benefit is it to th

Re: New to Rev & Use-Rev List - Some Questions - RevMentor

2008-09-13 Thread J. Landman Gay
Mark Srebnik wrote: Greetings Revolutionistas*, Just discovered the Use-Rev Listwanted to jump in and say "Hello" to everyone and also get some input from this illustrious group. Hello, and big welcome. This is the best place you could have found for Rev help. Oh, and you can call us just

Re: New to Rev & Use-Rev List - Some Questions - RevMentor

2008-09-13 Thread Mark Srebnik
Thanks for the welcome and advice, Thomas! Understand your point about developing on one platform right now... However, what about doing the opposite approach...if I go with Studio, get the Windows version so that I can practice on my P1610 when I have time during the day and then run Rev in Wind

Re: automating Excel

2008-09-13 Thread Ken Ray
> I had to automate importing a tab-delimited csv file into Excel > yesterday and I went through a lot of trial-and-error (lots of error) > in the process of figuring out enough of Excel's object model and how > to use vbscript. I figured I'd save someone else some effort. What your code has done

Re: New to Rev & Use-Rev List - Some Questions - RevMentor

2008-09-13 Thread Mark Srebnik
Hi Joe, Glad you remembered and great to hear from you! Thanks as always for your help and support. It is greatly appreciated! Hope you're on the mend and that architectural work will pick up. Having been through the architectural ups and downs, too many times, I feel quite fortunate that I move

Re: New to Rev & Use-Rev List - Some Questions - RevMentor

2008-09-13 Thread Thomas McGrath III
Mark, Welcome to the Revolution! First, I would seriously consider how much cross development you would be doing. Not Distribution but actual coding. I think it would be nice for you to have Enterprise but you may find that you only use the PC side (like I do) for a small period of time. W

Re: New to Rev & Use-Rev List - Some Questions - RevMentor

2008-09-13 Thread Joe Lewis Wilkins
Hello Mark! As soon as I saw your posting I remembered our having exchanged some emails about a year ago. Glad you took my advice and are going with Rev rather than RB. Welcome to the revList community. Great and extremely knowledgeable bunch of contributors. They'll field your questions

Re: New to Rev & Use-Rev List - Some Questions - RevMentor

2008-09-13 Thread Mark Srebnik
Thanks for your enthusiastic reply and thoughts, Judy. Every bit helps ;-) Mark on 9/13/08 8:07 PM, Judy Perry at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi Mark, > > Welcome! You're in the right place!!! > > I also, after more years than I care to admit, cannot code my way out > of a pap

Re: New to Rev & Use-Rev List - Some Questions - RevMentor

2008-09-13 Thread Judy Perry
Hi Mark, Welcome! You're in the right place!!! I also, after more years than I care to admit, cannot code my way out of a paper bag... yet I manage to do educational stuff with Rev that works wonders with my kids. Go figure. Almost as much as Hypercard itself, Rev is that unique development en

Re: New to Rev & Use-Rev List - Some Questions - RevMentor

2008-09-13 Thread Mark Srebnik
Thanks for all your suggestions, Marian. Very helpful! Mark on 9/13/08 7:27 PM, Petrides, M.D. Marian at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Mark > > If you might be developing on one platform (?Mac) but potentially > deploying your app on both platforms, I'd seriously consider > Enterprise. It

Vista mobile?

2008-09-13 Thread Isabella Marino
Will vista go mobile? I love any windows based phone. But, I would really love to see some vista features on mobile. Just a thought! Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to su

Re: New to Rev & Use-Rev List - Some Questions - RevMentor

2008-09-13 Thread Petrides, M.D. Marian
Mark If you might be developing on one platform (?Mac) but potentially deploying your app on both platforms, I'd seriously consider Enterprise. It's really nice to be able to develop on my Mac, save my stack(s) onto the PC partition and then go in and make final tweaks (mainly font fixes

New to Rev & Use-Rev List - Some Questions - RevMentor

2008-09-13 Thread Mark Srebnik
Greetings Revolutionistas*, Just discovered the Use-Rev Listwanted to jump in and say "Hello" to everyone and also get some input from this illustrious group. Basically, I'm a code noob, living smack in the middle of Silicon Valley, surrounded coders, hi-tech companies and work right next doo

Re: Having problem converting HC stack using Rev Beta 3.0

2008-09-13 Thread william humphrey
I believe there is a bug in 3.0 for converted hypercard stacks. When you use the property inspector on the grouped controls (that result from the conversion) you cannot open them in the inspector even after switching to edit group mode. On 8/19/08, Joe Lewis Wilkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >

Thanks, Revolution!

2008-09-13 Thread Curry Kenworthy
The new pricing system is an exciting development. I just wanted to pipe up and say thanks for that one. I haven't tried 3.0 yet, but I've used tools very similar to the new script editor debugging system as depicted in the info page, and I think that's a real step forward too. Best wishes, Cur

Named item order [was : Arrays: new and old keys, i]

2008-09-13 Thread Alex Tweedly
I don't want to take anything away from your very calid point about arrays - but on a tangent mention a cuple of techniques I use to overcome the problem with using the 'old' way. Björnke von Gierke wrote: I am constantly trying out systems for games, among other things making maps. I have mad

Re: List to checkboxes how to?

2008-09-13 Thread J. Landman Gay
Eric Chatonet wrote: Jacque- You know it yet: I'm an addict of custom controls* but I do prefer to use built-in controls when these ones are needed. That's what is so great about Rev. There are often so many different ways to do the same thing. Are you saying you are a control freak? ;) (A

Re: Rev 3.0 problems

2008-09-13 Thread J. Landman Gay
Peter Brigham wrote: Well, my personal frontscript only has handlers for suspend, resume, and controlkeydown messages, there are no backscripts, and I haven't tweaked the rev IDE scripts at all. The only stack in use is revAltLib. I'm mystified. Anyway, does anyone know where the IDE handles t

Re: Kudps for 3.0

2008-09-13 Thread Joe Lewis Wilkins
Peter, Thank you for making me look at the Universal Access System Preferences. Actually, what works is option/cmd/= to magnify and option/cmd/- to go back to the original size, setting the magnification to 2 works nicely. I had been using this for other stuff, and thought I had originally

Re: Kudps for 3.0

2008-09-13 Thread Peter Brigham
On Sat, 13 Sep 2008 09:59:35, Joe Lewis Wilkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote ... Obviously, my eyesight is not what I wish, and I don't want to have to use a magnifying glass to my screen, although that might be a great idea, and something that Apple may have already hidden away someplace. Most thin

Re: automating Excel

2008-09-13 Thread Mark Wieder
Martin- Thanks for the pointers. -- -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mail

Re: Arrays: new and old keys, i

2008-09-13 Thread David Bovill
2008/9/13 Mark Wieder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > push "title 1" onto theDataA[] > push "title 2" onto theDataA[] > pop theDataA[] into tCurrentTitle That would do me - except the most useful would be the ability to get the full ordered index. put the ordered keys of theDataA Because you want to t

Re: Arrays: new and old keys, i

2008-09-13 Thread Trevor DeVore
On Sep 13, 2008, at 2:38 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: Saturday, September 13, 2008, 6:10:42 AM, you wrote: Why force the developer to enforce an order after the fact? That is My point is rather that there's no need to impose an order on data that isn't ordered. Or at least not chronological order

Re: Arrays: new and old keys, i

2008-09-13 Thread Mark Wieder
Trevor- Saturday, September 13, 2008, 6:10:42 AM, you wrote: > Why force the developer to enforce an order after the fact? That is My point is rather that there's no need to impose an order on data that isn't ordered. Or at least not chronological order on xml data. > In addition once you have

Re: use-revolution Digest, Vol 60, Issue 25

2008-09-13 Thread Peter Brigham
On Sat, 13 Sep 2008 01:42:39, Bj?rnke von Gierke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 13 Sep 2008, at 01:25, Peter Brigham wrote: 1) In the new script editor, right-clicking/control-clicking on a function or handler hame is supposed to open a script editor panel for that function/handler ... I neve

Re: Arrays: new and old keys, i

2008-09-13 Thread Mark Wieder
David- Saturday, September 13, 2008, 3:41:51 AM, you wrote: > yes it is doable and not really "hard". So I think we are on the same wave > length. We differ in that I'm complaining about it :) > For beginners - it is counter intuitive (I remember having to ask on list > about it when learning

Re: Rev 3.0 problems

2008-09-13 Thread Peter Brigham
On Fri, 12 Sep 2008 19:12:01, Ken Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 2) More annoyingly, it used to be in versions <= 2.9 that command- option[alt]-clicking (in the IDE) on a button/locked field/graphic while using the browse tool used to open the script editor for that control. Now, it opens the sc

Re: List to checkboxes how to?

2008-09-13 Thread Eric Chatonet
Jacque- You know it yet: I'm an addict of custom controls* but I do prefer to use built-in controls when these ones are needed. * I have even written a tutorial about using PNG images to build any control ;-) Le 13 sept. 08 à 19:15, J. Landman Gay a écrit : Eric Chatonet wrote: Bonsoir

Re: Arrays: new and old keys, i

2008-09-13 Thread Trevor DeVore
On Sep 13, 2008, at 12:22 PM, Mark Brownell wrote: What about using "after" if you want order instead of "into." "After" could cause order for those that need it. It would be great for me because I could do this: "put thisData after myArray[1][1]" "put myArray[1][1][4] into holdParameterIm

Re: Arrays: new and old keys, i

2008-09-13 Thread Mark Brownell
-Original Message- >From: Colin Holgate <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >On Sep 13, 2008, at 1:08 PM, Mark Brownell wrote: > >> Wow, this is all coming back to me. The discussion list would fire >> up with two or three chiming in, in just a few seconds/minutes with >> work arounds for coding with

[OT] Great Cranky Geeks Episode on Encryption

2008-09-13 Thread Jerry Daniels
Although it is a "re-run", this is a great video podcast with real experts. Topics: encryption, security, defense dept. questions. Dan Farmer (security consultant) and Whitfield Diffie (one of the inventors of public encryption) are on the show! http://www.crankygeeks.com/ Best, Jerry Dan

Re: Arrays: new and old keys, i

2008-09-13 Thread Colin Holgate
On Sep 13, 2008, at 1:08 PM, Mark Brownell wrote: Wow, this is all coming back to me. The discussion list would fire up with two or three chiming in, in just a few seconds/minutes with work arounds for coding with lists and parameter lists. There were always these, beat ya moments. I'm n

Re: List to checkboxes how to?

2008-09-13 Thread J. Landman Gay
Eric Chatonet wrote: Bonsoir Jacque, If your solution works well it is not cross-platform I forgot to mention the cross-platform issue. What I generally do is create sets of images, one set for each platform. I load the IDs of the correct OS-based images into script-local variables the first

Re: List to checkboxes how to?

2008-09-13 Thread J. Landman Gay
Stephen Barncard wrote: Does this method work faster than using a background? I don't know, I've never used a background. I like the image solution. Though as Eric points out, the images may become obsolete if the OS changes. Whenever you want to set the state of the checkbox, do this:

Re: List to checkboxes how to?

2008-09-13 Thread J. Landman Gay
Eric Chatonet wrote: Bonsoir Jacque, If your solution works well it is not cross-platform and will be obsolete if controls design changes on the platform you are used to :-) It's the reason why I proposed to Michael to use a group with 'real' controls. Yes, that's true. It isn't very difficu

Re: Arrays: new and old keys, i

2008-09-13 Thread Mark Brownell
>> I'm going to do some experimenting now with Rev, or, have you >> already discovered these array within array tricks in single lines >> of code? > >Just doing v3 update now. Will report back soon! > Wow, this is all coming back to me. The discussion list would fire up with two or three ch

Re: List to checkboxes how to?

2008-09-13 Thread Stephen Barncard
Does this method work faster than using a background? Whenever you want to set the state of the checkbox, do this: set the imagesource of char 1 of line of fld "list" to The "imgID" variable is the ID of the correct image, "checked" or "unchecked". Your scripts can determine whether the

Re: Arrays: new and old keys, i

2008-09-13 Thread Colin Holgate
On Sep 13, 2008, at 12:53 PM, Mark Brownell wrote: I'm going to do some experimenting now with Rev, or, have you already discovered these array within array tricks in single lines of code? Just doing v3 update now. Will report back soon! ___ us

Kudps for 3.0

2008-09-13 Thread Joe Lewis Wilkins
Hi Gang, Just started using 3.0 and it rocks! My only complaint at this time is that, though I can enlarge the text in scripts using the preferences, I have been unable to find a way of enlarging the text in the Dictionary, which is now MUCH better than it was in the past. (huge smile) Obv

Re: Arrays: new and old keys, i

2008-09-13 Thread Mark Brownell
>peoplelist = [[name:"Tom",height:"72",city:"New York"], >[name:"Dick",height:"68",city:"San Francisco"], >[name:"Harry",height:"74",city:"New York"]] > >put peoplelist >-- [[#name: "Tom", #height: "72", #city: "New York"], [#height: >"68",#name: "Dick", #city: "San Francisco"], [#name: "Harry

Passing mention of Rev

2008-09-13 Thread Björnke von Gierke
"Touched: the making of a Mac-compatible multitouch monitor" http://arstechnica.com/articles/culture/multitouch-monitor.ars Recently there's lots of media coverage for Rev, but this one is especially intriguing to me, despite it's en-passant style. The article is about a teenager who made a m

Re: Arrays: new and old keys, i

2008-09-13 Thread Colin Holgate
On Sep 13, 2008, at 12:22 PM, Mark Brownell wrote: It's been a while but I believe that that ordering is how the Lists worked in Director. You didn't assign them key names. They could have parameters too, divided by ":" You just put data into an ordered spot. To be honest I like the non o

Re: List to checkboxes how to?

2008-09-13 Thread Eric Chatonet
Bonsoir Jacque, If your solution works well it is not cross-platform and will be obsolete if controls design changes on the platform you are used to :-) It's the reason why I proposed to Michael to use a group with 'real' controls. Le 13 sept. 08 à 18:24, J. Landman Gay a écrit : Michael

Re: List to checkboxes how to?

2008-09-13 Thread J. Landman Gay
Michael wrote: I thought I might be able to simply specify that the field is a "checkbox field", or is a button with contents that displays as checkboxes, but that doesn't seem to be the case. I can't find an example of this basic scenario in the manual. Is there a resource I can access for how

Re: Arrays: new and old keys, i

2008-09-13 Thread Mark Brownell
> >Multi-dimensional arrays are a powerful addition to Revolution as it >provides a basis for more powerful array manipulation features in the >engine moving forward. I feel that ordered keys form the basis for a >lot of those features. > >Trevor DeVore Good idea. It's been a while but I be

Re: Arrays: new and old keys, i

2008-09-13 Thread Björnke von Gierke
On 13 Sep 2008, at 09:37, John Vokey wrote: Again, I ask, what have we gained by the ``new'' array features, besides more brackets? Maybe you're more of a hands on guy, and no explanation found on this world will ever give you the same "aha" like trying it out yourself. Barring that, her

Re: Arrays: new and old keys, i

2008-09-13 Thread Joe Lewis Wilkins
On Sep 13, 2008, at 12:37 AM, John Vokey wrote: Thank you all -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See Joe Lewis Wilkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___

Re: Arrays: new and old keys, i

2008-09-13 Thread Trevor DeVore
On Sep 13, 2008, at 12:36 AM, Mark Wieder wrote: Friday, September 12, 2008, 10:22:26 AM, you wrote: Belgian Waffles $5.95 two of our famous Belgian Waffles with plenty of real maple syrup 650 ... Sorry,

Basic Printing Questions

2008-09-13 Thread David Bovill
I want to print a series of boxes in different orientations on a page. Some rotated, and maybe some flipped. It's great to see all the new print features since 2.9 - there are a lot! *First question* Is it possible to get Rev to print a card onto an area of a page (open printing then print), then

Basic Printing Questions

2008-09-13 Thread David Bovill
I want to print a series of boxes in different orientations on a page. Some rotated, and maybe some flipped. It's great to see all the new print features since 2.9 - there are a lot! *First question* Is it possible to get Rev to print a card onto an area of a page (open printing then print), then

Re: Arrays: new and old keys, i

2008-09-13 Thread David Bovill
2008/9/13 Mark Wieder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Still not getting it here. I often do that with arrays, but I just use > a multipart key (and now I can use multidimensional array keys). I've > never needed to retrieve elements in the order added and still can't > see the utility of it. The following

Re: List to checkboxes how to?

2008-09-13 Thread Eric Chatonet
Bonjour Ian et Michael, In such a case I prefer to set an invisible locked template group that contains one check box. When needed and on-the-fly, the group is cloned and its only check box cloned also as many times as needed. Then the scroll bar of the group is shown according to its height

Re: Arrays: new and old keys, i

2008-09-13 Thread Mark Brownell
>Subject: Re: Arrays: new and old keys, i > >Thank you all, for this discussion. Really. It was more informative >than the release notes could even hope to be. The exemplars of why >the new array features were so obviously useful helped me a lot in >exactly one way: I have no idea what y

Play iTunes protected videos

2008-09-13 Thread Richmond Mathewson
"Are you unhappy that you aren't allowed to go out an photocopy the latest #1 best seller?" Not really as my experience is that best-sellers are rarely worth reading :) Seriously, I have some books that are extremely precious to me (such as my Microbiblion 1650) which I have had professionally c

Re: Arrays: new and old keys, i

2008-09-13 Thread John Vokey
Thank you all, for this discussion. Really. It was more informative than the release notes could even hope to be. The exemplars of why the new array features were so obviously useful helped me a lot in exactly one way: I have no idea what you who promote these ``new'' features are on abo

Re: automating Excel

2008-09-13 Thread Jim Ault
On 9/12/08 9:24 PM, "Mark Wieder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I recorded a VBA macro of the task > to be accomplished, then copied the macro into a vbs file and fiddled > with it from there. I suppose I could have created a blank worksheet > with that single macro and tried to automate running th