Chipp Walters wrote:
The problem with Hypercard and xTalk is for many they represent
non-professional approaches to programming.
Surely only in an ever-diminishing circle of people who worked with Hypercard?
Also, as far as I am aware the language for programming Hypercard is
HyperTalk rather
I'm trying to add, as part of an installer app, the ability to
reproduce any original custom folder icons in OSX (and perhaps OS9 as
I think it uses the same mechanism). In other words, I would like to
be able to suck up the custom folder icon information along with
everything else so
Sorry, I cannot see anything 'stinky' or inadequate about saying what Runtime
Revolution is.
I know that Dropping your drawers and mooning them is a good way to
make a name for yourself (having done the written equivalent of that on
this list in the past); but I don't see what that has to do
Hello,
when building an automatic update function in your app, which checks the
internet for updates, I think the common approach is to have a splash stack,
which does all the checking, downloading and replacing of the needed files.
After having replaced the update files, including possibly your
Has anybody confirmed this ?
Is it a Bug ?
Regards
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If a Stack contains ANSWER Dialog and you set a password for the Stack in
Standalone settings if fails to buildin Rev 3 ?
This is no a problem in Rev 2.8
Regards
Camm
On Dec 1, 2008, at 8:17 AM, Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote:
But what do you do, if you want to exchange your splash stack it self?
What are your approaches to organise this issue?
The current approach I use on Windows is to launch a VBScript and then
quit the main application. The VBScript waits
Hiya,
Dunno, but 'RexTalk', for me, elicits the sounds a T Rex might
make... if it could talk...
Cheers,
Luis.
On 30 Nov 2008, at 22:27, Richmond Mathewson wrote:
It's what HyperCard could have been if Apple had more crunch!
Personally I like xTalk, so why not call the Runtime
Just recently, I told one company I'm working with that I'm using a
scripting language called revolution. They didn't seem worried.
Perhaps the phrase scripting language might once have caused
concern, but given the prevalence of perl, php, ruby and python, I
don't think it worries many
On 1 Dec 2008, at 13:17, Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote:
What are your approaches to organise this issue?
Here is the rough outline of an approach I've used before.
-- Build a standalone to act as the updater. The new engine file is
contained in a custom property of this standalone.
-- Have the
Thanks for proving the point, Richard. That reaction was exactly what
I was trying to illicit. If someone acts defensive, the reaction is
negative, i.e. harsh begets distance.
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Mark Smith wrote:
Just recently, I told one company I'm working with that I'm using a
scripting language called revolution. They didn't seem worried.
Perhaps the phrase scripting language might once have caused
concern, but given the prevalence of perl, php, ruby and python, I
don't think
Mikey wrote:
Thanks for proving the point, Richard. That reaction was exactly what
I was trying to illicit. If someone acts defensive, the reaction is
negative, i.e. harsh begets distance.
I apologize for any feather-ruffling; not my intention. I think we just
have a simple
Over the past several months I have been studying a lot, looking for
the perfect language that I enjoyed for working on desktop
applications as well as RIA/Web applications. The languages I have
purchased/used/enjoyed include:
Delphi 2009
C# 3.0
Realbasic 2008
Revolution
Ruby
Python
Objective C
Hi Trevor,
I'll think about it and perhaps come back
Thank you
Tiemo
If you need code examples I can point you at the files to look at in
the GLX Application Framework.
Regards,
--
Trevor DeVore
Blue Mango Learning Systems
ScreenSteps: http://www.screensteps.com
Developer Resources:
Hi Tareq,
Read the Windows Registry, using the following Key:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows
NT\CurrentVersion\CurrentVersion
Valid values = (5, 5.1, 6)
Where: 5 = Win2000, 5.1 = WinXP, 6 = Vista
If it = 5.1 OR 6 (Vista), then use: taskkill /IM ExecutableName.exe
This will
Hello Dave,
your approach brought me another idea.
What about if I would always have two launching standalones one behind the
other. First one only to check and do the updates, calling the second
standalone and quitting. The second standalone is nothing else, as a carrier
of the standalone engine,
hello! just wanted to ask what strategies can be used to solve the
following issue 'correctly':
there is one launcher (compiled stack) and several modules (ordinary
stacks). I would need to add several shortcuts to the Windows start
menu/MacOSX applications folder pointing to same loader stack,
I apologize for any feather-ruffling; not my intention. I think we just
have a simple misunderstanding here.
Absolutely not. I tried to write my original email several times
before I settled on TRYING to ruffle feathers to try to prove a point,
so if I didn't ruffle any then I suck.
Personally I like xTalk, (snip)
sincerely, Richmond Mathewson.
I vote for xTalk or X-talk.
Part of the reason is that I use it mainly just as a stand alone scripting
language without the IDE, for the kinds of tasks I might use Bash shell
script for - (or Perl if I felt more affinity for it)
Hello,
It's not possible to force a slider to scroll only at pageinc ?
(scroll only by multiple of 5 for example)
Thx.
PS : Rev 2.9.1
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what about recursive acronym like XIR meaning Xtalk Is Revolution (which
is correct in many senses). Language names like Rex, R are already
reserved and I do not know any language called XIR which is both Xtalk
and Revolution and everyone is happy :-)))
Viktoras
Sadhunathan Nadesan wrote:
sorry it is not recursive, but still acronym anyway...
viktoras didziulis wrote:
what about recursive acronym like XIR
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I agree that it's bad practice to draw attention to what you use in a defensive
way or in criticizing other well known methods. I also see the logic in not
using name overloading when describing RR, Rev, and Revolution as being a
trinity of modern symbolism. I always ask, what would you like it
Mikey wrote:
I apologize for any feather-ruffling; not my intention. I think we just
have a simple misunderstanding here.
Absolutely not. I tried to write my original email several times
before I settled on TRYING to ruffle feathers to try to prove a point,
so if I didn't ruffle any then I
Mark Brownell wrote:
I agree that it's bad practice to draw attention to what you use in a defensive way or in
criticizing other well known methods. I also see the logic in not using name overloading
when describing RR, Rev, and Revolution as being a trinity of modern symbolism. I always
ask,
You cant use xTalk without ruining the credibility of your company. xTalk is
the generic universal lable for the whole smalltalk spawned event and object
handler driven scripting lnguage family. The only reasonable and obvious
choice is revTalk.
-Original Message-
From:
Richard
Thanks for the illuminating history of RunRev.
M
On Dec 1, 2008, at 12:45 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote:
The misunderstanding here is simply that the MC engine *is* the Rev
engine.
It began life in 1992 under the name MetaCard, back when it was
owned and maintained by Scott Raney's
Just uploaded Text Bash to revOnline
( find it under 'Richmond' - surprise, surprise )
simplistic nonsense with text fields,
might be useful, you never know.
sincerely, Richmond Mathewson.
A Thorn in the flesh is better than a
I suppose to be fairest we might just use Microsoft. :)
Too much typing. Which is why C++ is so popular
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Richmond wrote
Personally I like xTalk, (snip)
Sadhu wrote
I vote for xTalk or X-talk.
Unfortunately xTalk, XTalk, X-Talk (or however you want to spell it) is
already part of the programming language landscape to cover any scripting
language from HyperCard onwards. See
Hey-Ho:
What I wrote was:
Personally I like xTalk, so why not call the Runtime Revolution dialect
RexTalk ?
Nothing like selective quoting (or quoting myself, come to that)!
The reason I would favour 'RexTalk' or 'RevTalk' is that, while showing
that the programming language is linked to
On Dec 1, 2008, at 12:50 PM, Richmond Mathewson wrote:
'Talk' is somehow perceived as
babyish, while 'Code' is a hairy-chested word used by 'real'
programmers.
I can think of no better reason for using Code.
The product must be sold. Sales are based on perception. Code is
perceived as
Mark Swindell wrote:
Transcript is a good name for the language.
No it isn't because it has no obvious link with Runtime Revolution.
Maybe Transit would be good for the IDE. It certainly gets you from one
place to another.
2 rather nebulous names could give an extremely nebulous idea!
Now
Hi Ludovic,
This is impossible, but you can make a script that sets the thumbPos
to the nearest rounded value in the scrollbarDrag handler.
--
Best regards,
Mark Schonewille
Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering
http://economy-x-talk.com
http://www.salery.biz
Dutch forum:
Transcript is a good name for the language. Maybe Transit would be
good for the IDE. It certainly gets you from one place to another.
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Bonsoir Ludovic,
I wrote a tiny tutorial after a discussion with Richard Gaskin and
some others that could help you:
It is named 'How to Manage Snap to Scrollbars'
How to manage a slider snap-to behavior to make sure that the
indicator lines up with the ticks on Mac OS X.
You will access
On 01/12/08 at 13:18 -0800 Richmond Mathewson apparently wrote:
Mark Swindell wrote:
Transcript is a good name for the language.
No it isn't because it has no obvious link with Runtime Revolution.
Why must there be a connection?
Despite all the marketing justification, I firmly believe
I noticed that you can't return a mix of an array and a variable. This
doesn't work (it only works if the params are both simple variables or if
you only have one parm - the array) :
*on* mouseUp
*put* the first item of MyTest() into myArray
*put* the keys of myArray
*end* mouseUp
Dear Robert Brenstein, there was no apparently about things, I wrote
what I wrote.
However, just to throw another spanner in the works:-
The very few times people ask me how I make my programs I state that I use:
Runtime Revolution, a complete programming package.
No 'language', 'IDE', 'GUI',
Richmond Mathewson wrote:
Hey-Ho:
What I wrote was:
Personally I like xTalk, so why not call the Runtime Revolution dialect
RexTalk ?
Because it's confusingly close to Rexx (an old favourite scripting
language from another universe ...)
-- Alex.
I'm sure that's the case in Bulgaria, but here in the US, most every
tech person I come in contact with over the age of 35 has heard of and
remembers Hypercard. It's not necessary they actually ever worked with
HC, only that it came from Apple and was considered a 'toy' by many.
Neither good when
On 01/12/08 at 14:22 -0800 Richmond Mathewson apparently wrote:
Dear Robert Brenstein, there was no apparently about things, I wrote
what I wrote.
However, just to throw another spanner in the works:-
The very few times people ask me how I make my programs I state that I use:
Runtime
Hi, how would be the appropriate way if there is, to work with SQLite
remotely?
Hershel Fisch
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I'm so sick of this thread... My new nomination is ExTalk. What is wrong
with RevTalk? It's the most natural name. But, if we really want to be cool,
how bout a play on the rotational meaning of the word revolution... Spin.
-Original Message-
From: Hugh Senior [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To:
William, if your example is as simple as it seems, I'd probaly not
bother with an array, and use chunks instead,
However, for bigger data I'd do something like this, in Rev 3.0
on mouseUp
put myTest() into tBigArray
put tBigArray[1] into myArray
put tBigArray[2] into mySimpleVariable
To end the thread, my final answer is
In my office
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Excellent! That's a keeper!
Cheers,
Luis.
Neal Campbell wrote:
To end the thread, my final answer is
In my office
#B-
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Abroham Neal Software
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Thanks. My arrays aren't that big but i like how I can call them in repeat
loops (I'm generating XML)
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On 12/1/08 2:24 AM, Scott Morrow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm trying to add, as part of an installer app, the ability to
reproduce any original custom folder icons in OSX (and perhaps OS9 as
I think it uses the same mechanism). In other words, I would like to
be able to suck up the custom
On Dec 1, 2008, at 4:43 PM, Ken Ray wrote:
On 12/1/08 2:24 AM, Scott Morrow [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I'm trying to add, as part of an installer app, the ability to
reproduce any original custom folder icons in OSX (and perhaps OS9 as
I think it uses the same mechanism). In other words, I
Remotely? like multi-user on a server?
On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 10:16 PM, hershel fisch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi, how would be the appropriate way if there is, to work with SQLite
remotely?
Hershel Fisch
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I say the same thing, except I call it Metacard.
On 1-Dec-08, at 7:16 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
However, just to throw another spanner in the works:-
The very few times people ask me how I make my programs I state that
I use:
Runtime Revolution, a complete programming package.
No
On Dec 2, 2008, at 12:05 AM, Chipp Walters wrote:
I'm like Richard. I rarely if ever have to defend RR as I've got some
long standing Rev projects in the works. I was only responding to the
originator of this thread regarding the subject:
When they ask, what is this written in?
'Twas I who
Max:
Could you please contact me off-list at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
We met at RevConWest this year and I've lost track of your math program (my
husband's the mathematician).
Kindest thanks,
Judy Perry
http://revined.blogspot.com
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Ya what up with the name revolution? Weird. Especially for a forth
generation great grandson of a derivative. That is the real source of awkward.
Product must be good.
-Original Message-
From: Jim Sims [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
Sent:
I dunno... I LIKE Revolution, but can see the Googling problems inherent in
it being *the name*.
Still, there's another problem -- that of changing the name of the product,
language, product lines numerous times.
Seems to me that, unless the above names suck markedly, leave them be! I
imagine
he knew too few about programming,- maybe it is better to avoid people
like that, because their expectations sometimes may be unreal. You know,
there are many Delphi/Pascal programmers around, the language being
ranked 8th place by its spread and usage, tons of stuff's written in
that language
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