Re: Rev for Linux (was Re: iPadding around?)

2010-02-03 Thread Peter Alcibiades
In Ubuntu, you don't do anything - the OS checks for updates and prompts the user as needed, an experience very much like OS X. Yes, of course standard Debian has an update manager which pops up, if you want it to work that way. That's how you will get it out of the box. I don't, I want to

Re: Rev for Linux (was Re: iPadding around?)

2010-02-03 Thread Richmond Mathewson
On 03/02/2010 10:33, Peter Alcibiades wrote: In Ubuntu, you don't do anything - the OS checks for updates and prompts the user as needed, an experience very much like OS X. Yes, of course standard Debian has an update manager which pops up, if you want it to work that way. That's how you will

Polygonflow: clockwise or counter-clockwise?

2010-02-03 Thread Michael Kristensen
HI THERE Can you figure a smart way to check if the flow of a polygon goes clockwise or counter-clockwise? Thanks Michael ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage

Re: Rev for Linux (was Re: iPadding around?)

2010-02-03 Thread Bernard Devlin
On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 8:33 AM, Peter Alcibiades palcibiades-fi...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: My point about the Rev support is this.  I don't know exactly what you could do to STOP Rev running on Mandriva or the Slackware derivatives.  Its a crazy idea.  It runs on them by default.  Its not that Rev

Re: Links to programs in Windows?

2010-02-03 Thread Mark Schonewille
Hi Florian and Kresten, You give some interesting hints, Florian, but it can't be done by RunRev as far as I know. One needs to do this with VBScript for instance. One should read out the App Paths registry key and cycle through all entries under the Software key. Because Revolution can

Re: Getting data from a secure web page

2010-02-03 Thread Bernard Devlin
On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 12:01 AM, Sarah Reichelt sarah.reich...@gmail.com wrote: revBrowser allows me to get the login page, enter my details and login, then get the html source so I can find the usage data I need, but this is only a useful technique if I have a way to submit a form

Windows 'run as administrator' property of standalone.

2010-02-03 Thread David Glasgow
Whilst trying to solve a problem of a customer, I noticed that on Vista, a standalone can have a 'run as administrator' property set, which presumably does what it says on the tin. My recollection is that Pre Vista this was a property which could be set on a shortcut, but not the standalone

Re: Rev for Linux (was Re: iPadding around?)

2010-02-03 Thread viktoras d.
what about creating our own Debian based Linux distribution?.. We would give it a name of Revolinux with most of the system management utilities (or GUIs for these) written in RevTalk, its own software repositories. This would provide a lot of opportunities and motivation to test and polish

How do I resize a group when using 'grab'?

2010-02-03 Thread Hugh Senior
How do I resize a group when I 'grab' a control in it so the group rect automatically expands/contracts? I'm sure I have done this before, but cannot recall how! /H ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url

Re: Getting data from a secure web page

2010-02-03 Thread Dave Cragg
Sarah Not quite sure what you're wanting to do. Do you just want to get the html page normally returned after login from within a Rev script? If so, does this work? on mouseUp libUrlSetSSLVerification false ## SEE BELOW 1 put https://memberservices.optuszoo.com.au/login/; into tUrl put

Re: Rev for Linux (was Re: iPadding around?)

2010-02-03 Thread Richmond Mathewson
On 03/02/2010 12:17, viktoras d. wrote: what about creating our own Debian based Linux distribution?.. We would give it a name of Revolinux with most of the system management utilities (or GUIs for these) written in RevTalk, its own software repositories. This would provide a lot of

Re: How do I resize a group when using 'grab'?

2010-02-03 Thread Richmond Mathewson
On 03/02/2010 12:34, Hugh Senior wrote: How do I resize a group when I 'grab' a control in it so the group rect automatically expands/contracts? I'm sure I have done this before, but cannot recall how! /H Wow! I am naive and wishful; I tried this script in a group: on mouseDown grab

Re: Rev for Linux (was Re: iPadding around?)

2010-02-03 Thread viktoras d.
I agree :-), still a) is also valid for developers of any other existing Linux distribution - given enough motivation, people manage to cope with their plates; b) if onRev server is included, then it is not limited to development, but can also be deployed as a server (you know LAMP, so this

Re: Getting data from a secure web page

2010-02-03 Thread Sarah Reichelt
On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 8:40 PM, Dave Cragg dave.cr...@lacscentre.co.uk wrote: Sarah Not quite sure what you're wanting to do. Do you just want to get the html page normally returned after login from within a Rev script? Yes. That way I can get the data automatically, without having to log in

Re: Getting data from a secure web page

2010-02-03 Thread Dave Cragg
On 3 Feb 2010, at 10:54, Sarah Reichelt wrote: On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 8:40 PM, Dave Cragg dave.cr...@lacscentre.co.uk wrote: Sarah Not quite sure what you're wanting to do. Do you just want to get the html page normally returned after login from within a Rev script? Yes. That way I

RE: How do I resize a group when using 'grab'?

2010-02-03 Thread Hugh Senior
P.S. The 'grab' command does not update the formattedRect of the group, so set the rect of grp 1 to the formattedRect of grp 1 has no effect. I recently wrote: How do I resize a group when I 'grab' a control in it so the group rect automatically expands/contracts? I'm sure I have done this

Re: Rev for Linux (was Re: iPadding around?)

2010-02-03 Thread Bernard Devlin
Actually Viktoras, it might not be as much work as at first seems. OpenSuse have now produced a system whereby one can choose to build one's own version of Linux in the cloud. When all the configuration is done, the distro can then just be downloaded and installed. It is certainly within the

Re: Windows 'run as administrator' property of standalone.

2010-02-03 Thread Bernard Devlin
On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 9:59 AM, David Glasgow da...@dvglasgow.wanadoo.co.uk wrote: I was wondering whether setting this before distribution might reduce the occasional permissions problems which arise.  I was also slightly worried that user levels can apparently be so readily overridden by an

Re: Noise in Windows icon when standalone compiled on Mac

2010-02-03 Thread David Glasgow
Bill, I got quite excited about this, because I have struggled to get nice looking Windows icons. The Mac icon generated by iconverticons.com was fine, but the Win version choked the Rev standalone builder does not include 6 blah blah blah. I have encountered this lots of times with icons

Re: Rev for Linux (was Re: iPadding around?)

2010-02-03 Thread Björnke von Gierke
Are you nuts? No value??? this is the elusive x-talk OS! The holy grail and final goal of all x-talk evolution! you blasphemer, heretic, burn him! *foam* ;) On 3 Feb 2010, at 11:42, Richmond Mathewson wrote: On 03/02/2010 12:17, viktoras d. wrote: what about creating our own Debian based

Re: Polygonflow: clockwise or counter-clockwise?

2010-02-03 Thread Jeff Massung
Michael, I assume you are talking about 2D polygons... Just take a 3D cross product of the first two vector (P3 - P2) x (P2 - P1). If the resultant vector is coming out of the screen (Z 0) then the polygon is counter-clockwise. If it is going into the screen (Z 0) then the polygon is

Re: on-rev queries

2010-02-03 Thread Trevor DeVore
On Feb 2, 2010, at 6:33 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote: I think I see what is going on here. The connection is being made with sqlYoga initially, but of course like every good server, on-rev drops the connection after a period of inactivity. Now normally I would execute an SQL statement through

Re: Rev for Linux (was Re: iPadding around?)

2010-02-03 Thread Richard Gaskin
Bernard Devlin wrote: Sorry to disagree Peter, It is not just at the generic level where there are problems. I am assuming by the generic level you mean the way that Rev on Linux is treated like the unloved stepchild of Windows and OS X (developer previews meant to flush out bugs only being

Re: on-rev queries

2010-02-03 Thread Trevor DeVore
On Feb 2, 2010, at 7:53 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote: Okay, for anyone who is interested, the trick to adding and dropping tables (or executing any odd sql) when using sqlYoga is that you have to tell sqlYoga that the schema has changed. The db schema that SQL Yoga caches shouldn't affect running

Re: Getting data from a secure web page

2010-02-03 Thread Trevor DeVore
On Feb 3, 2010, at 6:04 AM, Dave Cragg wrote: What happens if you try get instead of post get url https://memberservices.optuszoo.com.au/login/?Action=loginusername=abcpassword=abc (Not sure about that final forward slash.) libUrl will follow redirects (the 302 response) when using get

lockLoc OR LockSize? (but not both)

2010-02-03 Thread Mark Swindell
Is there a property for locking just the size of an object while allowing a manual move? Setting the lockLoc to true does locks down both size and location. If it isn't possible do each individually, why is that? Shouldn't it be possible? Thanks,

Re: Getting data from a secure web page

2010-02-03 Thread Dave Cragg
On 3 Feb 2010, at 15:23, Trevor DeVore wrote: I added support for following 302 with POST, DELETE and PUT requests in the version of libURL that comes with the GLX App Framework. But then it isn't standards compliant. :-) From rfc2616 If the 302 status code is received in response to a

Re: lockLoc OR LockSize? (but not both)

2010-02-03 Thread Scott Rossi
Recently, Mark Swindell wrote: Is there a property for locking just the size of an object while allowing a manual move? Nope. Setting the lockLoc to true does locks down both size and location. Yes. If it isn't possible do each individually, why is that? Shouldn't it be possible?

Re: Getting data from a secure web page

2010-02-03 Thread Trevor DeVore
On Feb 3, 2010, at 10:40 AM, Dave Cragg wrote: On 3 Feb 2010, at 15:23, Trevor DeVore wrote: I added support for following 302 with POST, DELETE and PUT requests in the version of libURL that comes with the GLX App Framework. But then it isn't standards compliant. :-) From rfc2616 If

Re: Rev for Linux (was Re: iPadding around?)

2010-02-03 Thread Andre Garzia
Hello Folks, arriving late on the thread. I used many linux distros till I finally settled on OpenSUSE 11.2. I find Ubuntu very charming and used it from Gusty Gibbon till Karmic Koala (can't remember version numbers but I love those silly names, was waiting for hungry hippo), it was fun to use

Re: on-rev queries

2010-02-03 Thread Bob Sneidar
Ok Trevor thanks a bunch. I obviously have to go back to the docs and learn more. I thought I had read through the API and didn't find a command that would work for me. Bob On Feb 3, 2010, at 7:15 AM, Trevor DeVore wrote: On Feb 2, 2010, at 7:53 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote: Okay, for anyone

Re: Rev for Linux (was Re: iPadding around?)

2010-02-03 Thread Bob Sneidar
I guess the upshot of this whole discussion is that everything is a tradeoff. To gain stability we have to lose some freedom. The most stable government is a dictatorship, where only one man's wishes are done and everyone complies with the standard he issues. But of course, nobody wants that.

Re: Getting data from a secure web page

2010-02-03 Thread Dave Cragg
On 3 Feb 2010, at 15:58, Trevor DeVore wrote: That is why I installed a callback when I implemented it :-) I should have known you'd have taken care of things like that. Cheers Dave ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com

Re: Rev for Linux (was Re: iPadding around?)

2010-02-03 Thread René Micout
YES !! Le 3 févr. 2010 à 18:27, Bob Sneidar a écrit : I guess the upshot of this whole discussion is that everything is a tradeoff. To gain stability we have to lose some freedom. The most stable government is a dictatorship, where only one man's wishes are done and everyone complies with

Re: Rev for Linux (was Re: iPadding around?)

2010-02-03 Thread Bob Sneidar
Andre you are a certified genius. Bob On Feb 3, 2010, at 8:43 AM, Andre Garzia wrote: If people here are so inclined, I can try to build a simple suse that would bundle Rev without a license (so you would need to put a license on first run) and some useful tools. You could run it as a

Re: iPadding around?

2010-02-03 Thread Bob Sneidar
I apologize to any number of people I may have offended, but you have to admit, it was dam funny. :-) Bob On Feb 2, 2010, at 11:22 PM, Richmond Mathewson wrote: On 02/02/2010 23:57, Bob Sneidar wrote: No that is Israeli counter intel. Apparently the Palestinian government believed this,

Re: lockLoc OR LockSize? (but not both)

2010-02-03 Thread DunbarX
Is this so that one doesn't inadvertantly grab a handle and change the size? You can set a custom property and trap the resizecontrol message, I guess: The lockrect property might be something like 82,23 on resizecontrol set the width of me to item 1 of the lockRect of me set the

Re: How do I resize a group when using 'grab'?

2010-02-03 Thread J. Landman Gay
Hugh Senior wrote: How do I resize a group when I 'grab' a control in it so the group rect automatically expands/contracts? I'm sure I have done this before, but cannot recall how! Set the group's boundingRect property. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com

Re: Noise in Windows icon when standalone compiled on Mac

2010-02-03 Thread J. Landman Gay
David Glasgow wrote: So I imported it into Iconographer, and chose 'complete icon' from the icon menu, and it did some stuff. The resulting icon is now acceptable to Rev at build time, but doesn't look good on Vista, and behaves as if some sizes are missing (they're not, as far as I can tell).

Re: Rev for Linux (was Re: iPadding around?)

2010-02-03 Thread J. Landman Gay
Andre Garzia wrote: If people here are so inclined, I can try to build a simple suse that would bundle Rev without a license (so you would need to put a license on first run) and some useful tools. You could run it as a virtual machine under vmware or virtualbox and thus test your software

Re: Rev for Linux (was Re: iPadding around?)

2010-02-03 Thread Andre Garzia
I am no genius, the guys at SUSE (Novell??) are. They made the software, I am just using it. Speaking of software, suse studio is giving me error 500 as of half an hour ago. Must be overwhelmed, as soon as I it is up and running I will try to cook something. Now, a simple pool, for those wanting

Re: Rev for Linux (was Re: iPadding around?)

2010-02-03 Thread Pierre Sahores
Hi Andre, Very interessant synthese. Thanks. It seems it would be a good idea to be back to Suse (i used it from the 5.3 to 9.2 distros, in the past, at the time it was the most usable on the different platforms i had to do with, Yast behind... :-). Never had only one problem to run MC nor

Re: Rev for Linux (was Re: iPadding around?)

2010-02-03 Thread Pierre Sahores
Andre, If my memory don't freeze ;-) libXext.so.6, libX11.so.6, libm.so.6, libc.so.6, ld-linux.so. 2libraries are needed and installed out of most of the recent distributions, as long as the XWindows support is configured. Best, Pierre Le 3 févr. 10 à 19:34, Andre Garzia a écrit : I am

Re: Rev for Linux (was Re: iPadding around?)

2010-02-03 Thread Brian Yennie
One possibility for RevBrowser would be to build an alternative using WebKit (aka Chrome, Safari engine). That would allow for the same browser engine on all 3 platforms, instead of locking down projects to the lowest common denominator (i.e., IE). It would certainly support Linux as that is

RE: How do I resize a group when using 'grab'?

2010-02-03 Thread Hugh Senior
Q: How do I update the dimensions of a group when I 'grab' a control? 'Grab' is a really simple way of moving an object in 'browse' mode: Just 'grab me' in a mouseDown, and the object tracks the mouse until mouseUp (see the docs). There is, however, a problem when you 'grab' a control in a

Re: use-revolution Digest, Vol 77, Issue 7

2010-02-03 Thread Emmett Gray
How do you tell Rev to do something useful via applescript? I tried tell application Revolution Media activate --would like ideally first to: do script go stack quote Foo quote in a new window --but I couldn't even get the next command to work if the stack was already open and

stack compatibility

2010-02-03 Thread Rick Rice
Will stacks created with Rvolution 2.6.1 run under the latest Microsft OS Windows 7 and the latest Macintosh OS Snow Leopard? Thanks. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and

AppleEvents and RunRev

2010-02-03 Thread Kee Nethery
On Feb 3, 2010, at 12:15 PM, Emmett Gray wrote: How do you tell Rev to do something useful via applescript? I tried tell application Revolution Media activate --would like ideally first to: do script go stack quote Foo quote in a new window --but I couldn't even get the

Re: use-revolution Digest, Vol 77, Issue 7

2010-02-03 Thread zryip theSlug
2010/2/3 Emmett Gray fi...@handheldfilm.com: How do you tell Rev to do something useful via applescript? I tried tell application Revolution Media activate   --would like ideally first to: do script go stack quote Foo quote in a new window   --but I couldn't even get the next

Re: use-revolution Digest, Vol 77, Issue 7

2010-02-03 Thread zryip theSlug
2010/2/3 Emmett Gray fi...@handheldfilm.com: Nothing happens other than activation. While I'm asking, the next things I would want to have happen are to put the clipboard into a field and send a mouseUp to a button. Try this: tell application Revolution do script if the clipboard is

Re: stack compatibility

2010-02-03 Thread stephen barncard
I wouldn't count on compiled apps. Both OS versions you mentioned have moved quite a bit forward. The old stacks, of course could be used and compiled on the newer IDE and engine. sqb - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev On 3 February 2010

Re: lockLoc OR LockSize? (but not both)

2010-02-03 Thread zryip theSlug
2010/2/3 dunb...@aol.com: Is this so that one doesn't inadvertantly grab a handle and change the size? You can set a custom property and trap the resizecontrol message, I guess: The lockrect property might be something like 82,23 on resizecontrol set the width of me to item 1 of the

Re: Polygonflow: clockwise or counter-clockwise?

2010-02-03 Thread Alex Tweedly
Jeff Massung wrote: Michael, I assume you are talking about 2D polygons... Just take a 3D cross product of the first two vector (P3 - P2) x (P2 - P1). If the resultant vector is coming out of the screen (Z 0) then the polygon is counter-clockwise. If it is going into the screen (Z 0) then

Hypercard import ?

2010-02-03 Thread Pierre
I'm using Rev/enterprise version 4.5.0. with Leopard X.6.2 on a MacPro. I would like to convert an old Hypercard stack to Runrev. I did it a few years ago with an old version of Rev. I can't do it today. I can't open the stack directly from Rev, the stack isn't seen from Rev. I can't change the

Re: Rev for Linux (was Re: iPadding around?)

2010-02-03 Thread Bernard Devlin
On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 6:47 PM, Brian Yennie bri...@qldlearning.com wrote: One possibility for RevBrowser would be to build an alternative using WebKit (aka Chrome, Safari engine). That would allow for the same browser engine on all 3 platforms, instead of locking down projects to the

Re: Hypercard import ?

2010-02-03 Thread stephen barncard
hold the optionkey down before opening dialog. That should over-ride the type filtering at the system level. - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev 2010/2/3 Pierre pierre.berna...@mac.com I'm using Rev/enterprise version 4.5.0. with

Re: Rev for Linux (was Re: iPadding around?)

2010-02-03 Thread Bernard Devlin
On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 3:12 PM, Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com wrote: At the risk of soundy all FOSSy, is the problem with the scripted elements like revPrintField something that one of us scripters could address? I'm just re-iterating Peter's long-standing problems with Rev on

Re: lockLoc OR LockSize? (but not both)

2010-02-03 Thread Mark Swindell
That's what I thought, but wanted to be sure I wasn't missing something obvious. It makes no sense (to me) to have these be a joint property. They are two separate things. Example: I have several images I want to drag around and reposition on a card, but I also want to constrain their size

Re: Hypercard import ? Solved

2010-02-03 Thread Pierre
Many thanks Stephan Pierre Le 4 févr. 2010 à 00:12, stephen barncard a écrit : hold the optionkey down before opening dialog. That should over-ride the type filtering at the system level. - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev

Re: Polygonflow: clockwise or counter-clockwise?

2010-02-03 Thread Jeff Massung
Michael, Sorry, but the problem you are running into is that (in your second example) you are working with a concave polygon instead of convex. I promise, using the cross-product is correct. Concave polygons get tricky, because the winding actually does - in fact - change direction. You - as a

Re: Polygonflow: clockwise or counter-clockwise?

2010-02-03 Thread Alex Tweedly
Jeff Massung wrote: Michael, Sorry, but the problem you are running into is that (in your second example) The examples were from me (Alex) not Michael :-) you are working with a concave polygon instead of convex. Yes. Exactly. There *are* polygons which are concave. We could all look at

Re: Polygonflow: clockwise or counter-clockwise?

2010-02-03 Thread Jeff Massung
On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 6:22 PM, Alex Tweedly a...@tweedly.net wrote: Jeff Massung wrote: Michael, Sorry, but the problem you are running into is that (in your second example) The examples were from me (Alex) not Michael :-) http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Lol,

Re: Polygonflow: clockwise or counter-clockwise?

2010-02-03 Thread Alex Tweedly
Alex Tweedly wrote: I'll post a couple of suggested solutions shortly (once I've got the stack running properly) There are two approaches (at least) that consistently get the same answers as we all intuitively know are correct. By AREA. Calculate the (signed) area between each edge and

Re: Getting data from a secure web page

2010-02-03 Thread Sarah Reichelt
OK, I think I'm going round in every decreasing circles but I thought I would describe the steps I am taking, in case anyone else found it useful. Using Firefox and Firebug to check what is going on, I see the following: I connect to

On-Rev Long Delays (final pass)

2010-02-03 Thread Bob Sneidar
Hi all. I am going to make one more attempt at this before I drop it. When I try to execute queries against the on-rev mySQL server, and there has been a long period of idle time, the query takes a very long time to execute, and in the end the query fails. Even a simple query like SHOW TABLES

Re: Getting data from a secure web page

2010-02-03 Thread Trevor DeVore
On Feb 3, 2010, at 7:40 PM, Sarah Reichelt wrote: Trevor, I downloaded your framework and got the modified libURL, but the stack won't open - it says it is corrupt. I wonder is this due to the multi-dimensional arrays stored as custom properties bug? I opened the stack in a text editor and

Re: Getting data from a secure web page

2010-02-03 Thread Sarah Reichelt
The custom version of libURL is actually a plain text document. Here are the instructions for installing it: http://revolution.screenstepslive.com/spaces/revolution/manuals/glxapp/lessons/5615-How-Do-I-Install-the-Custom-Version-of-libURL- This version of libURL will also handle cookies for

Re: How to use Applescript to Run RunRev

2010-02-03 Thread Emmett Gray
On Wed, 3 Feb 2010 22:07:46 +0100, zryip theSlug zryip.thes...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/2/3 Emmett Gray fi...@handheldfilm.com: How do you tell Rev to do something useful via applescript? Simply specify the stack you need as follows: tell application Revolution to do script create card to

Re: iPadding around? Video glasses (OT)

2010-02-03 Thread Petrides, M.D. Marian
mated to a pair of LCD 3D compatible goggles + earphones. Oooh I love the idea! Video glasses that not only simulate a 50 inch screen but also do HD 3G. Now THAT I could go for!! But, then I'm not sure where the iPad would fit into this schema, since the video glasses should

ANN: Hinduism Today Navigator - Alpha Test Open

2010-02-03 Thread Sivakatirswami
Namaste, Aloha and Oi from Kauai, Hawaii and Niteroi, Brazil: Hinduism Today and Andre Garzia are happy to announce that the latest incarnation of Hinduism Today Digital Edition has been released under a new name: Hinduism Today Navigator I want to thank both Andre for his hard work on this

RE: Links to programs in Windows?

2010-02-03 Thread Jim Bufalini
Kresten, The quickest way on a PC would be to use the registry because it is in memory. But, if you are not comfortable with this, you can get a complete list of all installed programs on a PC by walking down the Program Files directory and all of it subdirectories and looking for .exe files. I