Re: How exactly does runrev for ipad/iphone work?

2010-05-08 Thread Ryno Swart
Rene, There is no violation. We do our thinking in English or in French or Afrikaans; using typewriters or computers or pencil and paper. This is the creative process, and is personal to me, as to you. The output may have to conform to certain specifications. Process is as open as musical

Re: Accessing data from HID compliant USB device

2010-05-08 Thread Sarah Reichelt
This one has been churning around in my head for ages, and I finally bought a couple of joysticks to experiment with. I want to build a standalone that responds to joystick input.  Nothing requiring huge amounts of data or processing, just detection of joystick position - onscreen

Re: Accessing data from HID compliant USB device

2010-05-08 Thread Sarah Reichelt
Fischertechnik® brings back memories of painfully standing barefoot  on bits my brother left lying around on the floor. Ah yes. Every parent knows that the most painful part of parenthood is standing on Lego bricks in the middle of the night :-) ___

Re: How exactly does runrev for ipad/iphone work?

2010-05-08 Thread René Micout
Thank you Ryno, I see your site and blog ! very nice... Bon souvenir de Paris René Le 8 mai 2010 à 08:13, Ryno Swart a écrit : Rene, There is no violation. We do our thinking in English or in French or Afrikaans; using typewriters or computers or pencil and paper. This is the creative

Re: Check out Jerry's new videos

2010-05-08 Thread Peter Alcibiades
Peter, you don't need the On-Rev client app to use On-Rev. But don't you need the browser plug-in to use the pages you've made? For instance, I seemingly can't get to the parts of your site that are Rev based, because of no plug-in. Or is this a mistake? Can you step through it, you want to

Re: Check out Jerry's new videos

2010-05-08 Thread Ian Wood
On 8 May 2010, at 02:21, Colin Holgate wrote: people like me who want to do iPad apps will realize that your tool won't work offline, and so won't be interested. That depends on how Rodeoapps sets up the pages - the HTML5 spec allows for data to be stored locally on the browsing device

Re: Check out Jerry's new videos

2010-05-08 Thread Peter Alcibiades
OK, just to be clear, is this how it is? -- If you have subscribed to the on-rev hosting service, you can then write and host pages on it, using any text editor, which will allow any web browser to run your web apps, but only (at least at the moment) from the on-rev server run by Rev itself.

On-Rev v. revBrowser v. revWeb etc. (was: Check out Jerry's new videos)

2010-05-08 Thread Ian Wood
On 8 May 2010, at 10:30, Peter Alcibiades wrote: OK, just to be clear, is this how it is? -- If you have subscribed to the on-rev hosting service, you can then write and host pages on it, using any text editor, which will allow any web browser to run your web apps, but only (at least at

RE: Check out Jerry's new videos

2010-05-08 Thread Randall Lee Reetz
I have no idea what you guys are talking about. But my god. A solution that complicated, with that many stacked conditions and contingencies can't actually be considered a solution to anything. The cloud is simply a scheme to get other people to provide services so that you don't have to,

Re: ***SPAM***RE: Check out Jerry's new videos

2010-05-08 Thread René Micout
Thank you Jerry, In a same morning I discover Rodeo + Posterus + tRev (rediscover) René___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences:

Check out Jerry's new videos

2010-05-08 Thread René Micout
Thank you Jerry, In a same morning I discover Rodeo + Posterus + tRev (rediscover) René___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences:

Re: Check out Jerry's new videos

2010-05-08 Thread Jim Ault
On May 8, 2010, at 2:30 AM, Peter Alcibiades wrote: OK, just to be clear, is this how it is? My attempt to clarify things by making a series of statements that should give some flow to a complicated subject... web hosting for the rest of us. Corrections welcome :-) With an On-Rev

Re: PDF import?

2010-05-08 Thread Peter Brigham MD
Thanks for reminding me of the tempname, I'll end up using it. Thanks to William Jim for trying out the browser window technique for displaying PDFs. I'll get busy trying these work-arounds. -- Peter Peter M. Brigham pmb...@gmail.com http://home.comcast.net/~pmbrig On May 7, 2010, at

Re: Check out Jerry's new videos

2010-05-08 Thread Jerry Daniels
Yes it is. Best, Jerry Daniels Use tRev's buy link during your free trial to get 20% off: http://reveditor.com/tag/shouldiswitch On May 8, 2010, at 12:47 AM, René Micout rene.mic...@numericable.com wrote: Hello Jerry, I am an on-rev founder, but I have not yet used... I begin to understand

Re: Check out Jerry's new videos

2010-05-08 Thread Jerry Daniels
Peter, The pages Rodeo server creates and that run on iPad Web browser do not involve revPlugin. These pages are rendered by CGI written in Rev running on On-Rev. Rodeo apps running on iPad are just running the app pages that On-Rev has served to it. When offline, iPad would be using local

Re: Check out Jerry's new videos

2010-05-08 Thread Jerry Daniels
Ian, YES that's exactly right. revServer is excellent for this chore and ones like it. Best, Jerry Daniels Use tRev's buy link during your free trial to get 20% off: http://reveditor.com/tag/shouldiswitch On May 8, 2010, at 3:58 AM, Ian Wood revl...@azurevision.co.uk wrote: I assume that

Re: Check out Jerry's new videos

2010-05-08 Thread Ian Wood
It's pure coincidence, I'd been thinking earlier this week that Rev would be perfect for generating HTML5 stuff online/on-the-fly, but without having the required amount of web knowledge. I'll be watching with interest, and it's sparked off a few ideas for 'intelligent' photo galleries...

Re: Check out Jerry's new videos

2010-05-08 Thread Jerry Daniels
Jim, That is correct. We are going to do this one thing for the iPad and do it extremely well. Once we're pleased with the results, we'll consider other devices and platforms. We are a small team and do not want to spread ourselves too thin. People always ask: What sorts of things can you do

Re: Check out Jerry's new videos

2010-05-08 Thread Jerry Daniels
One of the reasons that Sarah and I have been talking about Rodeo on the list is to inspire others to use Rev technology more creatively. We felt it would be a welcome relief from the anxiety over the revMobile wait. Best, Jerry Daniels Use tRev's buy link during your free trial to get 20%

Re: How exactly does runrev for ipad/iphone work?

2010-05-08 Thread Thomas McGrath III
Ryno, Love your artwork. Especially the style of your watercolor pieces. Regards, Tom McGrath III Lazy River Software http://lazyriver.on-rev.com 3mcgr...@comcast.net I Can Speak - Communication for the rest of us... http://mypad.lazyriver.on-rev.com I Can Speak on the iPad Store

Re: Check out Jerry's new videos

2010-05-08 Thread David C.
So what is the answer? Rodeo! Although they are plenty cool, up until now I have just about sworn off on the idea of purchasing an iPad. The whole Rodeo concept however, makes me want to turn lose with the $$cash$$ so I can dive off into the fun and games. I already have tRev and would be more

Re: On-Rev v. revBrowser v. revWeb etc. (was: Check out Jerry's new videos)

2010-05-08 Thread Peter Alcibiades
There's no revBrowser separate revBrowser product any more, it's part of the core engine these days. Yes, understand, but its not available for all OS versions of the core engine, of course. -- View this message in context:

Re: Check out Jerry's new videos

2010-05-08 Thread Jerry Daniels
David, We want to do a really superb job on the iPad. Once we're satisfied with that, the next logical target will be iPhone. We are also watching closely Android and WebOS. We are being careful not to over commit at this time. As far as getting an iPad goes, I recommend the repost I did of

Re: Datagrid can't not find stack

2010-05-08 Thread Andre.Bisseret
Buenos dias Josep, I replicated your two stacks according to your explanations The main stack s_document with - a data grid dg_lineas with 7 columns: Name, TaxNumber,Address,ZipCode,City,State,Country (I just suppressed customer to get the headers shorter ;-)) - a button OpenSheet with

Re: PDF import?

2010-05-08 Thread Josh Mellicker
Peter, What we do is turn PDFs into individual JPEGs and we've built a cool viewer that offers single and two page display, jump to any chapter, does a simple wipe on page turns, and even plays randomly chosen page turn sounds if you want, which strangely enhances the experience! We also

Re: Check out Jerry's new videos

2010-05-08 Thread Roger . E . Eller
On 05/08/2010 at 09:57 AM, Jerry Daniels wrote: People always ask: What sorts of things can you do with Revolution? Rodeo is an example of one of Rev greatest strengths: manipulating strings on a server to create web app pages for a very particular device. As a user of Revolution, know what

RE: [OT] Apple developing Flash alternative

2010-05-08 Thread Lynn Fredricks
Apple developing Flash alternative named Gianduia http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/10/05/07/apple_developin g_flash_alternative_named_gianduia.html Isn't this just another javascript framework? While I see some duplication of functions, I have been wondering how these (abeit

Re: [OT] Apple developing Flash alternative

2010-05-08 Thread Bernard Devlin
Over the past 2 or 3 years, I kept seeing references to Apple Gianduia on the WebObjects list. But as everyone was under NDA, they would never say exactly what it was. Bernard ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please

Re: Check out Jerry's new videos

2010-05-08 Thread Jerry Daniels
Roger, Kevin and I have worked closely together for some years now, and we communicate frequently. He has, of course, been privy to what we're doing and wants us to have great success. He has been pleased that we're really leveraging revServer technology and building our web app IDE in desktop

Re: [OT] Apple developing Flash alternative

2010-05-08 Thread Richard Gaskin
On 5/8/10 10:32 AM, Lynn Fredricks wrote: Apple developing Flash alternative named Gianduia http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/10/05/07/apple_developin g_flash_alternative_named_gianduia.html Isn't this just another javascript framework? As of 8 May at 10:49 AM that's true. But it's not

Re: PDF import?

2010-05-08 Thread Peter Brigham MD
Can I look at what you've done? Sounds intriguing. Do you convert the PDFs to JPGs automatically on the fly? -- Peter Peter M. Brigham pmb...@gmail.com http://home.comcast.net/~pmbrig On May 8, 2010, at 12:49 PM, Josh Mellicker wrote: Peter, What we do is turn PDFs into individual JPEGs

OT: Any MacZotters?

2010-05-08 Thread Lynn Fredricks
Hi all, Just a quick note for you mac users and Mac Zotters that our Mirye Shade 10 Designer is up for this weekend at 50% off. It supports exports to OBJ and Second Life - OBJ being useful if you got Franklin 3D for Runrev as a part of the MegaBundle and want to get some models into Franklin 3D

Re: Check out Jerry's new videos

2010-05-08 Thread Randall Reetz
Does anyone here remember what one used to have to do to write postscript to generate a circle? How in the world keeps confusing description and processing protocols with creation and editing workflow is beyond my scope of understanding. What makes for a good description protocol (machine

Re: [OT] Apple developing Flash alternative

2010-05-08 Thread Chipp Walters
Interesting. Very interesting. Richard, how long do you suppose until Apple bans web apps for the iPhone/iPad AppStore unless they are only made with their new tool? Chipp Walters CEO Shafer Walters Group, Inc President, Altuit, Inc On May 8, 2010, at 12:50 PM, Richard Gaskin

Re: Check out Jerry's new videos

2010-05-08 Thread Chipp Walters
On May 8, 2010, at 2:12 PM, Randall Reetz rand...@randallreetz.com wrote: If Jerry can pull off an english-like page description interpreter, my eyes are wide open and excited. What I have always wanted is a browser that goes way beyond view source, allowing instead an edit mode that

Re: Check out Jerry's new videos

2010-05-08 Thread Michael Kann
Randall Reetz: What I have always wanted is a browser that goes way beyond view source, allowing instead an edit mode that allows direct manipulation of page elements in vitro. Your wish is my command: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1843

RE: Check out Jerry's new videos

2010-05-08 Thread Randall Lee Reetz
If you don't need to output C than you don't output c. I don't need gif output but photshop allows it for those that do... -Original Message- From: Chipp Walters ch...@altuit.com Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2010 12:31 PM To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Subject: Re:

Re: Check out Jerry's new videos

2010-05-08 Thread Ian Wood
On 8 May 2010, at 21:28, Michael Kann mikek...@yahoo.com wrote: Randall Reetz: What I have always wanted is a browser that goes way beyond view source, allowing instead an edit mode that allows direct manipulation of page elements in vitro. Your wish is my command:

RE: Check out Jerry's new videos

2010-05-08 Thread Randall Lee Reetz
Really, I can edit my web page in the browser just by drawing and dragging? Wrong. -Original Message- From: Ian Wood revl...@azurevision.co.uk Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2010 1:56 PM To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Subject: Re: Check out Jerry's new videos On 8

Re: PDF import?

2010-05-08 Thread Josh Mellicker
We used Automator on Mac to convert to JPEG, then stored the images on a card in the stack. I will find some non-copyrighted content so I can show you. On May 8, 2010, at 11:38 AM, Peter Brigham MD wrote: Can I look at what you've done? Sounds intriguing. Do you convert the PDFs to JPGs

Re: Check out Jerry's new videos

2010-05-08 Thread Chipp Walters
I take it, by reading your plethora of rather uninformed posts, you're not a technical person. So, it's understandable you would compare creating an Xtalk to C translator as trivial as exporting an image in GIF format. The fact is, it's not. If you think this is a marketable idea, then by all

RE: Check out Jerry's new videos

2010-05-08 Thread Randall Lee Reetz
I made no such claims. I said that such output capacity wouldn't interfere with day to day xtalk use. I write artificial intelligence. I have always used xtalk. It allows me to think and create using the same cognitive resources. It would not be trivial to get runrev to export C source.

RE: Check out Jerry's new videos

2010-05-08 Thread Lynn Fredricks
resources. It would not be trivial to get runrev to export C source. But it would be invaluable to users and to the longevity and reach of the runrev product and market. It would definitely have an effect, but it may not be the best use of Rev resources. AFAIK, there are multiple bits of

Re: Check out Jerry's new videos

2010-05-08 Thread Chipp Walters
On May 8, 2010, at 4:38 PM, Randall Lee Reetz rand...@randallreetz.com wrote: I made no such claims. You did compare the two and I responded to your comparison. I said that such output capacity wouldn't interfere with day to day xtalk use. I have no idea what that means. I write

RE: Check out Jerry's new videos

2010-05-08 Thread Randall Lee Reetz
Lynn, we havwebeen a huge difference of opinion. Huge! Please plot runrev into the future as you see it. Then tell us why you see it that way and the motivations that support this opinion. -Original Message- From: Lynn Fredricks lfredri...@proactive-intl.com Sent: Saturday, May 08,

RE: Check out Jerry's new videos

2010-05-08 Thread Randall Lee Reetz
I made no such comparison. Period. -Original Message- From: Chipp Walters ch...@altuit.com Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2010 3:14 PM To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Subject: Re: Check out Jerry's new videos On May 8, 2010, at 4:38 PM, Randall Lee Reetz

RE: Check out Jerry's new videos

2010-05-08 Thread Randall Lee Reetz
Chip, please take my post, and show how I made the comparison you are claiming I made. Show us all. -Original Message- From: Chipp Walters ch...@altuit.com Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2010 3:14 PM To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Subject: Re: Check out Jerry's new

RE: Check out Jerry's new videos

2010-05-08 Thread Randall Lee Reetz
I have asked before. I will ask again. Who on this list is are stakeholder with runrev? I would like to know when I am getting direct line from the company and when I am simply talking to another xtalk user/developer. -Original Message- From: Randall Lee Reetz

RE: Check out Jerry's new videos

2010-05-08 Thread Randall Lee Reetz
That runrev could export C source would in no way interfere with the ongoing activity of runrev users (should they choose not to export their stacks into C source). The capacity to output C SOURCE WOULD OPEN THE REACH OF REV USERS TO ALMOST ANY PLATFORM AND IN A PROFESSIONAL LEVEL. CODE

Re: MySQL driver in Windows standalones

2010-05-08 Thread Sarah Reichelt
On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 10:38 PM, paolo mazza mazzapaoloit...@gmail.com wrote: Why from a stack using the MySQL commands i get a single file application for the  MACOS platform and a file with the Externals folder (with dirvers + .dll file) if I build the standalone for the windows platform?

Re: Check out Jerry's new videos

2010-05-08 Thread Scott Rossi
On May 8, 2010, at 3:56 PM, Randall Lee Reetz rand...@randallreetz.com wrote: BYTE CODE IS SLOW IN COMPARISON. INTERPRETED EVEN MORE SO. (SORRY ABOUT THE UPPERCASE... MY PHONE IS STUCK). CUPERTINO, CA. Today, Apple Inc announced that it will no longer accept input of lowercase letters

RE: Check out Jerry's new videos

2010-05-08 Thread Randall Lee Reetz
That is funny. Maybe I should wait even longer... for iphone 10. -Original Message- From: Scott Rossi sc...@tactilemedia.com Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2010 4:31 PM To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Subject: Re: Check out Jerry's new videos On May 8, 2010, at 3:56

Re: Check out Jerry's new videos

2010-05-08 Thread Sarah Reichelt
On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 6:16 PM, Peter Alcibiades palcibiades-fi...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Peter, you don't need the On-Rev client app to use On-Rev. But don't you need the browser plug-in to use the pages you've made?  For instance, I seemingly can't get to the parts of your site that are Rev

RE: Check out Jerry's new videos

2010-05-08 Thread Randall Lee Reetz
Sarah, would you please show us what rodeo LIST would look like. I would like to see a sample of the new language I rodeo users would be expected to learn. Is there a current scripting or markup language or API that would serve the purpose of comparison for now? How about an example that

Three Years of Rev (was RE: Check out Jerry's new videos)

2010-05-08 Thread Lynn Fredricks
Lynn, we havwebeen a huge difference of opinion. Huge! Please plot runrev into the future as you see it. Then tell us why you see it that way and the motivations that support this opinion. There's wishful thinking and then there's my perspective on the company and the product it makes.

Re: Check out Jerry's new videos

2010-05-08 Thread Web Admin Himalayan Academy
On 5/8/10 1:38 PM, Sarah Reichelt wrote: The actual Rodeo desktop editor will be built in Rev and the web apps will rely on using On-Rev servers to do the conversions from the Rodeo scripting to HTML/CSS/Javascript. Cheers, Sarah We need to see some actual examples of the end result of this

OT: Resources for Data Base Design

2010-05-08 Thread Sivakatirswami
I'm working on a content management database based on the Dublin Core and the Media Annotation Initiative. Much of the whole mode of discourse and terms translate well into a database scheme but when the discourse starts to talking about fine tuning and switches to an RDF framework it is

Re: Check out Jerry's new videos

2010-05-08 Thread Jerry Daniels
As I pointed out in the Roadmap video, we are in the process of developing Rodeo. Here's what and when: http://rodeoapps.com/rodeo-roadmap We're announcing now in order to Kickstart the project: http://rodeoapps.com/getting-there-faster-0 I also felt now was a good time to inject the

Re: OT: Resources for Data Base Design

2010-05-08 Thread Chipp Walters
Hi Sivakatirswami, FYI, I don't really understand what it is you are trying to accomplish, but I have had some excellent results using WordPress. If you're into WP at all, there's a must have book by Chris Coyier, Digging into WordPress. The great thing with WP is besides being open source, there

Re: Three Years of Rev (was RE: Check out Jerry's new videos)

2010-05-08 Thread Chipp Walters
Lynn, How would you suggest paying for all of this? Just wondering... Do you really think the current revenue stream can prop up this luxurious road map? I personally would rather see RunRev trim their efforts and focus better on technologies which can provide best in class cross platform