Nobody *likes* RegEx. But it is powerful, and we use it because there
is no practical alternative. I wish there were.
Hi Dave,
I do like regEx very much. Simply because that's the optimal solution to the
problem they address. That's an extraordinarily clever solution, which let you
write in a
Hi Xavier,
Thanks very much for the reply and comments (should appear soon on this list,
hopefully). As expressed in a private reply to you and to others previously, I
am interested in your framework in the context of the following projects, all
under a same hood:
I guess I don't quite see how that would work in detail, but I can
look for it. It sounds, though, like an _awful_ lot of very finicky
work, on every individual example, of which there are a pretty large
number.
Is there some HTML-tag or RTF-tag approach to this problem?
The HTML-tag (div+css)
Same here it may have something to do with the RR server upgrade.
Best,
Mariele
Hi all,
I posted 3 or 4 emails since yesterday from my home mail adand none made
it in the list?
Any clues? TIA
cheers
Xavier
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Hi Sivakatirswami,
Same here. Has been like that since 2.5... is still the case in 2.6. I don't use
the backdrop much (for this reason), but any time I use it, that's exactly the
behaviour you describe (need to use the window menu as all stacks are *behind*
the backdrop after when going back and
(check out the wiki page on computers in education/design for information
on this).
Do you have a link to that page, or suggestions about what
categories to look under? I've tried various topics but...
Sorry, it may not have been clear that this was the path to follow
computers in education -
Cher Yhann,
Francophone :-)... Mais vivant depuis longtemps en pays anglophones, pardonnez
les fautes d'orthographe.
Je comprends sans problème que le fait que tout soit en anglais soit un
problème. Programmez en xTalk et comprendre un manuel en anglais sont deux
choses complètement différentes
Xavier,
I finally got the time to read your paper on the TAOO...
What's the difference with Design Patterns?
A pattern is a recurring solution to a standard problem. When related patterns
are woven together they form a ``language'' that provides a process for the
orderly resolution of software
Xavier,
I am investigating your ideas... is the taoo also related to the tao:
http://www.cs.wustl.edu/~schmidt/TAO.html
A decade of intense RD on these topics has yielded ACE, which is an
object-oriented framework that implements many core patterns for concurrent
communication software. We have
Hi Xavier,
Me again ;-)
from http://monsieurx.com/modules.php?name=Newsfile=articlesid=178
If you know what bittorent did for media sharing, imagine what this can do for
your scripting or applications' building or sharing...
Exactly... that's what I believe should be done as well. Ok...
Two palettes have been added this week to the education gallery
http://revolution.lexicall.org/stacks_education.php
HTML exporter
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Converts your rr stack into an html+css documents, within a framing system for
easy navigation from one card to another. (Note that you may need to use
Hi Claudi,
You are on the right track... but you need to tune your regular expressions a
bit.
Problem 1: $ means end of the line (not end of the chunk)
Problem 2: \ works with perl and unixy languages. I found it not to work with
revolution. I usually use font face= quote . Possibly \ is ok
My dictionary of 61,000 words comes in at 592 K--similar
to yours in size. The problem is that it includes a lot of words I've
never heard of. For example the dictionary begins with the following:
aardvark, aardwolf, aba, abaca, abacist, aback, abacus, abaft, abalone,
abamp, abampere,
OTH, allowing ``a=4'' as a shorthand for ``put 4 into a'' harms
nobody, and meets with the expediency criterion; just don't require
it.
Hi John,
I do often write myVar = x. But I like the fact that there is a different logic
for properties and variables.
set the width to 100
put 100 into
I am curious... So I had a look ;-)
In fact, if you strip repeated words in your list, it is 5065 words
long.
It wouldn't be a big deal to write a revolution script to delete any repeated
line, would it? Je parie que c'est ce que tu as fait [I bet it is what you have
done].
All that lexicall.org
control the land and grain;
Who attends to the state would control the whole world;
Truth is easily hidden by rhetoric.
(From the Tao Te Ching)
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Jim,
A suggestion: In your application, put the crypted version in uppercase and the
uncrypted version in lower case. Studies shows that it is easier to recognize
words when they are in the usual (lowercase) format.
(Besner, D., Davelaar, E., Alcott, D., Parry, P. (1984). Wholistic reading of
An idea for your situation would be to copy the original
stack, delete all cards but the one that has the correct
layering, etc, then write a script that will make a new card
for each in the original, getting and setting all the
card-by-card items/fld data/radio settings/x,y,w,h...
No need
I have been ask by a friend on a PC to send him some files in .csv
format. When I do, he complains that the returns are missing. I
guess I am still a bit unclear on this difference between platforms.
As I understand it the Mac uses LF for a delimiter, and the PC uses
CR. When I end the lines
Should I bugzilla this? It makes it hard to make a multi-media
application that plays nice in Windows.
What I have done for my graphic stacks is to have a main stack that is
the startup/splash stack with a title bar with the other windows as
substacks of this main stack and then when the
Hi Ton,
When such things happen to me, that's usually when I created a group, then added
the labels afterwards (i.e., the labels are on the same page, eventually inside
the group boundary, but not actually part of the group).
Make sure you are in select grouped mode, then click edit group to
...and not just user-configurable UIs, but also the... um... I forget
what Microsoft calls it, but it's the thing where the menus have the
most recently-used items rearranged on the fly by default.
Kids - don't try this at home. These are clowns^H^H^H^HMicrosoft
engineers at work designing your
The big problem with the decoder is the size of the dictionary (61,000
entries)--much too big. Many of the words you will not recognize.
Anyone know of a more reasonable dictionary?
Plenty at: http://lexicall.org/repository/listing.php?material=data (eh eh, a
website with easy access to
my brother is retooling in a linguistics
doctoral program at UT Austin after 20 years
as a mining engineer and proprietor of El
Universo del Ordenador in Puerto Ordaz,
Venezuela.
i am trying to interest him in Rev as a tool
for linguistics. he was intriqued by the
script, looks like English. he
Hi Sarah,
Interestingly, we had that discussion on the education-revolution list a month
ago. The transcript, re-organized by main issues, can be found at:
http://revolution.lexicall.org/wiki/tiki-index.php?page=EducationWhatIsNeeded
Feel free to add your two cents or more to this discussion (see
There was mention of University of Vienna in the keynote 2 (thanks for these
movies, they are great for persons who were unlucky enough to make the trip).
It was mentioned in Kevin's talk that they had put rev to good use to provide
easier to manage networked systems. I am very much interested in
I'm also concerned that Revolution out of the box is not, as Dan put it,
seductive. Maybe these goals are not compatible?
Trying to sell revolution to educators (and meeting funders in 10 days to try to
convince them of supporting me in this endeavours), I share this concern.
I haven't tried too
No problem with it at all, I don't think. Sandy Beadle was talking to me
about porting over the old HC example stacks and she talked to Kevin
about it at the Monterey conference. He was fully supportive. I
encouraged her to do it, and in those cases where the scripts or
examples were outdated, to
Dear Kat,
About http://rugusa.linguistix.net Intrigued by the name, I followed the link (I
am a psycholinguist).
RevUG USA Wiki: This is the prototype for a Wiki homepage for Revolution User
Groups USA.
Good idea to create a wiki. It's good to see the community extending its
presence on the web
Dear all,
Is there any possibility to have something equivalent for dreamcard.
http://www.littlefishsw.co.uk/card/roadster.html
I have been surfing supercard websites... my impression:
Plenty of very clever changes have been introduced in Dreamcard/revolution,
compared to supercard, the IDE
Any Game Theory adepts in the list?
In theory, yes... in practice too many other things to do :-.
Why not create an entry page on the education wiki, projects page
http://revolution.lexicall.org/wiki/tiki-index.php?page=RevolutionProjects.
It's easier to manage for us, educator... we
Xavier,
I do like your ideas... Printed out the doc and other stuff. It made it in the
pile to read the details... coming closer and closer from the top of the pile
everyday. If we are both lucky, I may get back with questions before a month
time ;-).
Marielle
PS. Do some of you ever do some
That reminds me of exactly the tree structure thing for the xml example
stack except you can click on nodes in that and they collapse and open and
you can save as xml.
It is more than a DOM (web page elements) viewer... it doesn't just collapse and
expand.
The feature I needed was the ability to
Hi Pat, Bob,
Thanks for that. I forgot to remove them (used when debugging). I have uploaded
a stack with these lines revomed. Let me know if there is any problem
remaining.
When is it that put xxx into message causes problems? When the stack is ran in
the player?
Marielle
Bob,
I'm using a
Bjoernke,
I think that this could be very fun!!! As for prize, I've got one copy
of Revolution: Software on the speed of thought by Dan Shaffer left,
I would gladly give this backup copy (owning more then one copy of a
given book is smart sometimes) as prize for a competition, also I offer
space
Hi Andre,
I know that Dar Scott looks into ICFP coding compos, those
competitions are a nice and should provide inspiration for us to create
a coding compo. Maybe we could create a map, like a labirynth put some
jewels in it and people should make routines to crawl the maze and
collect the
snipped for brevity
I remember a game called Chip Wits. You had a robot and had to teach him
to walk around rooms and halls in a house using a simple programming
language. It was so much fun!!!
Great logic game. I loved it!!!
This? http://www.c64gg.com/Images/C/Chip_Wits_ingame.gif
Following a search for chip-wits on the web:
Specifications for the chip-wits program (which received best educational award
in 1985).
http://www.textfiles.com/apple/DOCUMENTATION/chipwits
I couldn't find any source code for it anymore. There is an announce that some
guys tried it in java:
If anyone is interested, the function below converts HSV to RGB format.
It can be found in use in this stack:
go url
http://revolution.lexicall.org/stacks/education/presentation_tools/skin_colors.rev;
I used it to automatically create components of an interface made of the same
hue, with
Dear all,
I needed a way to organise keywords I use to organize my bookmarks. It didn't
take me more than an afternoon (very long afternoon) to come up with:
go stack url
http://revolution.lexicall.org/stacks/education/presentation_tools/tree_structure.rev;
The complexity is in the organization
On May 26, 2005, at 8:33 AM, Marielle Lange wrote:
Dar, would you try it again?
ICFP Programming Contest.
Maybe.
June 24-27 AND July 9-10. Hmmm. I wonder if this will turn into a
16-day contest.
They give you two days to solve a first problem. Two weeks later they
give you another
Dear all,
this came up on the education revolution list:
I wonder if anyone may consider this. Dar, would you try it again? I work in a
dept called Adaptive Neural Computation (Markov models, genetic programming,
etc.). Nobody does revolution programming there, but I can ask my colleagues
for
Dear all,
The previous email mentionned the education-revolution list. I am glad to say
that this list has become very active now... some of you may like to keep an
eye on what we do.
The easiest way, check out the wiki: http://revolution.lexicall.org/wiki/ and
the growing gallery of education
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Informatics
University of Edinburgh, UK
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Hi Dennis,
There is a trade-off, there. As a researcher, it matters more that something
takes me 1 day rather 5 to progam. It does not matter that much that it takes 1
minute rather than 3 to run (I can always use it as an excuse for a coffee
break). What I frequently need to do is create word
Hi Xavier,
I am glad you followed up on this. I did not want to push too much in my
previous email, to avoid to appear rude to the english speakers of the list.
When writing my previous post, the idea of newlang (novlang for the ones
who read Orwell in French) popped to my mind. Newlang is an
Xavier,
(thanks for answering with a meaningful title, I was juggling with the webmail
interface I use to check my work account from home and noticed the absence of
title right after pushing on send).
I regularly have a look at your blogs and forums. My intention
was not to create concurrence,
Hi Ro,
I am not sure the issue there is politeness. The translation of your post to
French and back from French to English is the following (and, believe me, it is
worse in French than the translation back to English):
Frankly, I do not have any problem with a (road) post in an alternative
Hi Sarah,
On where to install applications on macs... the usage is to provide a disk image
with the instruction to drag and drop the software in the /Applications folder,
but to leave the user free to drag and drop the software wherever they want
without it affecting performance in any way. You
Cher Dom,
Merci pour l'info. J'ai jeté un oeil. Le trafic a l'air en descente douce, en
effet. Domage, apparemment l'existence d'une liste française avait attiré des
petits commerces désireux d'employer des revolutionarios. [Babelfish ;-): Thank
you for information. I threw an eye. The traffic
advantage of any of this... but
please, be patient, my day job does not involve programming with revolution, I
may take a few days (i.e., next week-end) to answer your emails.
Best,
Marielle
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Dear all,
I will be discussing eLearning projects with somebody at Open University
Scotland, this week.
On top of the projects I introduced in my previous post, I am also of the
oppinion that many of their course could probably greatly benefit from a short
programming with revolution module
,
Marielle
(I will need to send a copy on the education-revolution list using my
other email... apologizes if you received one of the previous email
twice... I had received a bounce message because I used the home
email and at the time had seen no trace of the first message).
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Thanks Dan,
I had come across a few commercial multimedia authorware but did not know about
that one yet... I am University Lecturer. Still, I believe that the learning by
doing advertised by the likes of Papert and Dewey do not apply only to young
kids.
In the context of my teaching at MSc
Hi Xavier,
Thanks for this warning. I am aware of this. I have come across some of these
when investigating about how wikis are used in education.
Editing is only allowed for registered users but I still expect random spam to
happen occasionally, like on this wiki:
. -Peter Cochrane
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