Hello folks, It's been a very long time since I've posted here.
I've got a fellow using one of my programs and he says it won't work on one of
his computers.
To rule out any fault of my scripts, I sent him a simple standalone with one
button on it that just did some text stuff.
This also
How do I find out if in the following theBuffer is empty?
--read info
put $QUERY_STRING into theBuffer
if theBuffer is empty then
--do stuff here
--for example, put Hey! The buffer is empty! into tresult
--later, you can print tresult to a log file or display it.
end if
Robert, I'll check my site (when I have time!) but in the meantime you should
just make your own LibUrl.rev stack.
It's a stack that handles internet protocols. Look in the archives for where to
get it. David Cragg maintains it.
My tutorial mentions that it must be set up for your version of
building a standalone with Rev 2.8.1 on my Mac 10.3.9
My apps are not displaying the icon I've assigned to themit worked before.
Anyone else have this problem?
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Sorry if this has been discussed already. I've been off the list for a
while...doing my day job...blah.
Will apps built with Rev 2.6 be useable with the new operating systems by
Mirosoft and Apple?
I'm assuming they will be!
Many thanks,
tm
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On my Mac this function works well:
set the htmltext of fld _selected to XBrowser_Get (selected)
But on my Windows XP box, unusual characters don't get displayed. (Japanese
worked in the demo stack)
Here is one such character: hodiê (the last char should have a circumflex over
it)
When the
Wouldn't PayPal do?
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Mark,
My mistake. I was converting from mp3 to wav in order to make sound clips.
To go the other way, converting batch to mp3, I use Audacity. It takes slightly
more mouse movements (importing the files into a project) but then you can use
the Export Multiple function from the file menu.
I'm not sure this will do flash, but it will do a lot. I've used it for a
while, mainly to convert various audio files to mp3. It has a batch convert
function that made it a breeze.
The price can't be beat either.
http://www.mikeash.com/software/qtamateur/
About a year ago, I posted a link to a freeware program that would batch
convert movie files (and I think swf ones) it was called Q something. I'll
check it at work tomorrow.
In the meantime, this is another interesting bit of freeware:
http://www.tucows.com/preview/319320
How about placing a graphic object on your card. Set the ink of it to something
funky and then when you want to flash, show, hide, show, hide
t. mccarthy
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Just rethinking this...
Your goal is to play both the student's recording and the original
simultaneously. I don't see the need for a single file.
1. play sound, student records
2. on playback just play both files.
files could be organized like this:
[prompt] prmt_1.mp3
[student] std_9_1.wav
Yes, that is cool.
It reminds me of a concordancer built with HyperCard [can't recall the name
off-hand].
This concordancer put the target word in the middle of the screen and then
surrounded it with common associated words discovered in a text. The more
common the assosiation, the thicker the
This is, uhmancient. And yet, it looks very useable even now.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4365247885921962429q=environmenthl=en
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On windows you can use mciSendString, I'm pretty sure about that. Don't know
about Mac, though. Possibly with Applescript?
tom
Is it possible to tell a player which speaker to play out of? If I
wanted certain sounds to come out of certain speakers, can this be
done? If so, how?
E-frontier and CP are a long time partner of yours truly.
Lynn, I need you to develop a partnership with the US mint so we can start
downloading cash... US bonds would also work for me.
Thanks for this opportunity!
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Stephen Barncard gave me the heads up on Dreamhost. Do it.
I've had rev cgi running from the get go (begining of this year) It was one of
the conditions I gave for signing up--the human (actual humman) in support told
me If rev doesn't work, we'll give you a full refund.
It worked (Linux
Just thought I'd toot my horn. My publisher decided to start selling the
software I'd developed for my book. You can check it out here (I also taught
myself some CSS while making the site.)
It's all rev from start to finish--well actually some parts were done in
MetaCard.
Greg,
I also was looking for this feature--first in SuperCard. But if you think about
it, something like Flash requires a multi-megabyte download and install plugin
for your browser. You can accomplish the same by having your users run
web-based stacks from a rev app on their hard-drive.
You
Richmond,
Just a suggestion, why not have a custom command/function to handle playing
audio in your stack script. That way when you run into trouble, you just have
to adapt the routine in your stack and not 200 buttons.
button:
get myPlay(the label of me) --e.g. Suspicious minds
stack:
Has anyone noticed this?
I have two games that sort a container (three lines, one line is the answer) by
random the number of lines. The answer should be in any one of the three
resulting lines, but is overwhelmingly in the first
any thoughts?
tm
Dar, I've been experiencing stacks and answer/ask dialogs opening up _behind_
my front window. Even a button opening my browser, opened the browser behind
the stack and clicking on the browser window wouldn't bring it forward. Only
minimizing the front window helped.
Could this be related? I
Am I right in assuming that Rev on Linux systems can play audioclips if they're
in au format?
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I download and use revert to update my stacks-- and it's made my life sooo much
better. Sometimes I update just because I can!
Now, because I've updated my player app [the standalone I use to run my stacks]
to 2.7, I'm sure I'll need to be able to get users to update that as well.
Is it
Richmond,
Interesting and useful. Thanks. I'm interested that you use AIFF files. I
thought these were more Mac specific. Have you tried AU files?
I run a small EFL school in Bulgaria with Pentium 3s running Ubuntu and using
RR programs made by myself. These programs use externally
Chris,
I sorry to say [actually happy] that I've not experienced this. Just tried it
with both 2.6 and 2.7
tm
Has anyone had problems with this combination?
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20, 2006, at 3:51 AM, Thomas McCarthy wrote: Has anyone noticed this? I have a
window, not a pallet, but it's decoration is set to minimize and close box.
Now in 2.7.1, other stacks open up _behind_ this window-- even the answer
dialogue! I was able to overcome
I decided to start using 2.7.1 because the .1 number at the end hinted that
most of the bugs were out.
Has anyone noticed this? I have a window, not a pallet, but it's decoration is
set to minimize and close box. Now in 2.7.1, other stacks open up _behind_ this
window-- even the answer
Rob, I'm wondering if this occurred because I opened a stack built in 2.6 and
then tried saving it as a legacy stack, rather than starting fresh [shouldn't
matter, I know.] It was also on Mac [heavily used and disc packed to overflow].
I'll look into it more later. Thanks
PS: I love the J.
Ben,
My gut is telling me that it three things:
1. could be a filepath issue.
2. Is the file extention ok?
3. I'm hungry.
Skip number 3. Could you put a button on your stack to manually direct your
stack to the mp3 file (and display the filename for you to copy and check
later.)? Also,
Katir,
I use my USB adapter for recording with rev all the time. (OSX). Just go to the
system preferences - sound - input and select your USB device (needs to be
plugged in, of course.) I haven't tried selecting it via rev, though.
You _may_ have to do this before starting rev. I'm pretty sure
Also QuickTime needn't be installed on Windows machines for the player object
to playback Mp3 (Windows Media Player can do it)
--also there was a bug with the player on windows. If it was not visible, it
would cut off. The solution for hiding the player is to place it off screen.
cheers,
tm
A mother of a disabled child asked me if I could adapt some stuff for her
computer. Apparently the stuff i have now doesn't work on Win95. Is this true?
tm
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Let's use the rest of this month in a purposeful way. I propose that for the
next few weeks everyone excercise personal will-power and choose the delete
button rather than the reply button to any post they find less than pleasing.
Let's also extend this exercise to our minds by deleting
I started using Dreamhost and rev cgi about a month or two ago. No problem.
1. create a folder named cgi-bin
2. get the linux rev engine from runrev
3. upload it and set the permission to 755
fiat accompli
Note 1: you will need the libURL stack if you want your cgi scripts to post.
Also, the
I just finished integrating my rev project with Paypal very nicely (details
comming soon). Then my publisher says,
I'd like to do this with MonsterCommerceargh! is someone pulling my
fingernails out?
As an added bonus, I see on their website that they're a NetworkSolutions
company- the
I'm about to finish a huge (for me) project. I need to work out the percentages
with my publisher before I hand over the keys to the car.
What is a reasonable price sharing equation? Pertinent facts:
1. I wrote the program and took care of all the media involved.
2. I created the web site (and
Is there a way to include the ecryption library in a stack (like when one makes
a libURL stack)?
I would like to use the encrypt command from my cgi.
thanks.
tm
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Last summer I wrote a message airing publicly my complaints about this product.
It was a bit of vitrol after frustrating attempts to get it to work (yes, I had
read the manuals!)
I shot off an angry letter to the Altuit team about what I found as
shortcommings:
1. the demo on the site was not
In my haste to bed the other night, I accidently put up some old [and nasty]
cgi scripts. I've updated them.
--and in the reg_stack.rev
Scott Rossi's PayPal button worked well in development mode, but not under my
standalone. I changed it to a revGoURL call and now it works.
Also prettied up
Some exciting developments occurred this week.
1. fixed the windows xp problem
2. adapted Scott Rossi's PayPal button script
http://lists.runrev.com/pipermail/use-revolution/2005-May/058039.html
This button allowed me (after about 2+ hours of fiddling with it between
classes) to launch the
You're not alone.
I also haven't been able to upgrade my mac to OSX either.
--yes I am connected to the Internet.
I've been too busy to try very hard and I am in no rush (always let others find
the problems and upgrade to x.1 version ;-)
Still, I'm feeling ready to move up. 2.7 (on XP --no bugs
Testing out my PayPal thing and running into a few walls:
My brand new Windows XP (home edition) is not allowing my stack to put some
text into my remote file server.
put cr theText after URL ftp://username:[EMAIL
PROTECTED]/revproject/reg/key_log.txt
This has worked on every other
Thanks Dave and Bruce for the info...
This (below) was very interesting;
(By the way, the engine makes two calls to the url to do this. First
it retrieves the entire url from the server, then writes back the
retrieved data with the new data appended. So this may not offer the
efficiency you
http://www.discamus.com/nunc/how/
Thanks to David Cragg,, I was able to get the POST function working...and now I
can say with much confidence that this thing works!
The How To web page is also almost done --not pretty, but 90% of the scripts
are up there. Enough for anyone to get started. My
Dave,
Wouldn't it be nice if rev had a stack running which we could post to and it
would post back so we could test this stuff?
Anyhow thanks for all your useful comments.
A local test server is useful for this, but not always practical. Putting
the script in a try handler can help, with the
Ken,
could you have the library check for something that would only return a value
when running from a desktop?
how about quicktime verstion, screenrec?
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My experience was mixed-- I had problems, paypal had problems and rev had
problems
my problems-- misstyping, missunderstanding
paypal-- sometimes unclear documentation (it's the little things they leave
out!)
rev-- same (especially the fact that the cgi engine doesn't have the POST
command
I'm assuming you want to post *from* the cgi (and not to it).
Yes
In that case, you'll need to have the libUrl library loaded somehow.
That's how I got it working before (Unix host, bsd rev engine). Now with a
Linux server, it doesn't appear to be working...hmm anyway of checking? is
there a
After making the myliburl.rev stack, edit the stack script and search
for lines that contain open secure socket (there should be 2) and
comment them out.
I just did the latter, and I can post from the cgi script on a Linux
server.
BINGO! many, many thanks!
tom
I just did the latter, and I can post from the cgi script on a Linux
server.
I forgot to ask, how did you test it? Do you have an easy way to test that
anyone could use? It would be very helpful in debugging.
thanks
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I'm running rev's Linux engine on my ISP.
Is there a problem with the POST command?
(checking in the mac finder, the engine seems to have been built in 2003)
thanks
tm
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I got my registration project working with PayPal and ran into a bunch of
problems along the way (see bottom of the page for pitfalls).
I wipped up a howto web page [embarrassingly incomplete] today between classes.
I hope it will encourage newbies to take advantage of rev as serious tool--it's
Ken, I think they got the RevZilla thing from my cgi script. I had adapted a
cgi from somewhere and RevZilla was in the comments.
I had emailed them again about this, but they pretty much said, We're not
touching our configuration so forget it!
Meanwhile I followed up on Stephen's suggestion
Ken, I just don't know. I asked them to run my [extremely simple] hello.cgi and
then check the error logs [which I can't access] to see what's missing.
I'm really upset about this. I had _just_ got my rev cgi's working at another
ISP. All set to interface with PayPal. Was going to write a
Took a look and it was good. Immediately sent an email asking about rev support.
Also, I think you're absolutely right about being firm and instisting on
changing hosts. In fact I'll offer to pay the first year.
many thanks
tm
From: Stephen Barncard
My own choice is Dreamhost - big bang for
I would gladly change, but this site I'm working on isn't mine. I think I'll
try picking up a little php to cover the basics and get a better host to run my
rev scripts from.
thnks
Tom McCarthy
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Ego sum rex Romanus et supra grammaticam.
Below is the reply I got from Networksolutions. I had asked them to check the
error logs (I don't have access) to see which libraries are missing for rev to
work.
We have reviewed your CGI scripts and it appears you are attempting to use a
custom CGI add-in called RevZilla. This is not a
I remember that SuperCard had a text to speech phomene editor. Does Rev have
that capability he asks hopefully
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Sarah, I just glanced at this, so if it's resolved already, forgive me.
I had a field that would allow users to record their voices when they pressed
on a 0 and play their recording when the pressed on a [I did this because
there were varying numbers of lines...long story]
Later I wanted to
I've learned that my provider is running Linux 1.1.3 with glibc 2.3.1
my scripts (which worked at another provider [unix]) are no longer working.
Checking Ken Ray's site, I found some clues to what needs to be done. However,
my provider doesn't allow telnet connections, so I can't do the
I've learned that my hosting service is using Linux 1.1.3
I've asked about the libC (as per Andre's suggestion), no word yet.
I downloaded the Linux distro (linux.tgz), unstuffed and uploaded the engine
(revolution.x86) to my cgi-bin. Renamed it revolution and changed the
permissions to 755
Happy New Year!
Just getting back to work
My publisher has moved to networksolutions.com for hosting (not my choice!) I
know the revolution site was located there at some time.
We have the Unix plan and I'm trying to get my cgi's working. Need to know what
flavor of Unix engine to upload.
If you need to batch convert a bunch of files from mp3 to .mov (as I recently
did) YOU NEED THIS!
I haven't tried it for the video side of things, but it worked great for me so
far--and you dont't need QuickTime Pro either!
requires QuickTime 7 and Mac OS 10.3.9
I used my rev cgi to call the UNIX sendmail process last summer. My site was
shut down by the provider shortly after on account of the enormous amout of
emails being generated. I thought I'd fixed the problem but I'm afraid it might
have happened again.
Are there any suggestions for securely
is there a convenient 'done' property for videoclips?
I want to import my mp3 sound files as quicktime movieclips (thanks for the
great suggestion by Marty Billingsley!)
I want to do something like this [but with videoclips]:
play audioclip whatever
wait until the sound is done
Also these
Date: Wed, 07 Dec 2005 08:42:31 +
Subject: Re: Accessing protected folders on a web server
Thomas McCarthy wrote:I update a file on my server using a script like
this:put x cr after URL ftp://username:[EMAIL
PROTECTED]/secretroom/somefile.txtI also retrieve info by getting the URL.
Some
What is a problem for me may be a solution for you.
I have a dictation program for language learners. Some of the vowels have
macrons (long marks) and are in unicode. My program checks each letter the
students have typed (checking for unicode letters along the way) and when it
reaches a
I'm updating a file on the web using a formula like this:
put x into url ftp://name:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/folder/the_file.txt
It's working great. But when I tried it see what would happen if there was no
internet connection--hoping there would be an error message-- the result was
empty. How can
From the docs:
The decrypt command is part of the SSL Encryption library.
Does this mean I have to create a library stack and start using it before my
cgi can use this command? If so, where is the library?
thanks
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I update a file on my server using a script like this:
put x cr after URL ftp://username:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/secretroom/somefile.txt
I also retrieve info by getting the URL. Some of this info is of a sensitive
nature (my daily body-mass-index). So I would like to protect it. I've already
put
I'm a high school teacher and support my family single-income-style. I pay for
my software/hardware out of pocket [not even tax credit.] I'm also the world's
cheapest man; to wit we have had marital difficulties because I will not let
love stand in the way of conserving cash.
The background
My program saves student's usage data in a stack (which also serves to
display/evaluate it). Some teachers wanted to have this info available from
anywhere.
My original solution (worked on my home machine) was to store the data stack on
a web server and ftp it down to the local machine to
I've put my mp3 recording rev stack on my site for download. It's the file
titled, Mp3Recording_stack.zip
http://homepage.mac.com/speakup/BasicChristian/FileSharing17.html
It contains everything you need, including the LAME encoders for both Windows
and Mac. [I should probably include a GNU
Have you folks heard about this? Especially you ed people.
http://laptop.media.mit.edu/laptop-contact.html
Runs on Linux. Let's make some great freeware for it!
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Aloha Sivakatirswami!
Do you know now many secs are dropped?
not sure, but it seemed to me about 1 or less.
then run a shell program to convert it to mp3.
what program? will it run on OSX?
Not only will it run on OSX (and windows) but it will run from within rev! It's
a unix exe. You have
Paul,
This keeps popping up now and then. Perhaps it should be mentioned in the
documentation.
MP3 files can be played with the player control on either Windows or Mac. Just
set the filename of the player to the mp3 file you wish to play.
(your Windows system will need Microsoft Media Player
Hi Cameron,
I've placed some thoughts in your code:
on startup
//the rev cgi engine doesn't know these commands
//you need to open a stack that does.
//Maybe you need to start using Liburl.rev as well?
pop3Open IP.ADDRESS.GOES.HERE, 110, AUTO,
[EMAIL PROTECTED],
password
put the result into
The Other T.M. wrote:
Obviously it is not PayPal doing it BUT someone IS gaining access to
either PayPal and/or eBay and their mailing lists 'when someone does
a transaction'. This started for me right after an eBay sale and
PayPal transaction.
I sent the email on to both and got a response very
Scott Rossi wrote:
Since your students are first going through your system and storing a unique
key, your CGI could also generate an HTML download page with that key (or some
other unique identifier) as part of the Web address (ie
http://www.mydomain.com/download/user72635463.html).
There's
I'm trying to implement a PayPal solution to registering my software. Here's
the flow:
1. students/users start up my app and click 'register'
2. A register_window rev stack is downloaded and the user chooses some basic
options.
3. They click send and my stack generates a key (thanks to Ken Ray
This is a little off the top of my head (extremely busy now)...
I was testing out an app of mine on Windows. It plays sound--both audioclips
and files. (some of the clips have had their volumes reduced in the Application
Browser)
Things were going well, then the sound volume dropped
I've already got a (clumsy) work around, but I thought it was an interesting
question, so I ask the group:
I've used revGoUrl to open user's browers to some particular cgi:
revGoURL http://someplace.com/something.cgi?parameters=whatever;
This seems to be a GET command (the '?' indicates that,
yes, it was very bad style to bring my complaint to this forum first. I
apologize--the folks at Altuit have been helping me a lot on this issue.
I had searched the list archives for help with the bug and then just fired off
a message without thinking. (note to self, Think less)
tm
I'm trying to make a worksheet generator for teachers, thinking through various
ways of doing it. I though I might use a .css template to get it to form-up
nicely.
So I thinks to meself, Great! we can have a little preview window with
altBrowser!
Is it just me, or does this thing crash like
This thread got off a little, I think. The original question was can you play
Mp3 sounds in your Rev stack.
The answer is 'Yes'--use a player object and set it's file name property your
Mp3 file.
It doesn't require QuickTime. Windows computers will use their own technology.
I have played Mp3
Specifically, Audio files.
I have a bunch of files which my program uses. I would like to keep these from
being removed, changed, etc by students.
Any ideas?
In the past, I've used AudioClips, importing the files into a number of stacks
and that worked ok, but...it seems to make it difficult
Completely off-topic but...
I've been investigating cascading style sheets and noticed that on the surface,
a lot of css sites resembled Pages templates. I exported a Pages file to html
and looked at it. Sure enough it used css.
It might be a good way to start using css. I haven't checked
There is egg on my cgi face.
1. form mail is only used for recieving submissions--not for sending out emails
to various address.
2. I tried plan B (use rev) I uploaded Andre's Raw SMTP stack (after adapting
it for testing) Failed. Then I remembered my host won't allow sockets to be
opened.
1: I imagine most students check their email via cell phones. Don't laugh, but
I don't have one (and yes, I'm in Japan--even my toilet has one). Can cell
phones accept / respond to html mail? (my doubt-meter is in the red zone)
2: What are the basic pixel dimentions of a cell display? Should I
Question 1:
Can my rev cgi engine do things (such as send out emails) at predetermined
intervals?
Question 2:
This is related to question 1. If my cgi script starts up the Rev engine. When
does the rev engine shut down?
thanks
tom
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1. Will libSMTP work from a rev cgi?
2. Any reason to use it instead of my host's built-in mail cgi?
Yes, Andre, 'cron' is my new friend. Actually more of an acquaintance.
Where is this going? I thought it would be nice to send my students emails
automatically--homework reminders, thoughts of
Sivakatirswami,
Wouldn't you know it? I just hooked up my iBook yesterday to a usb sound-thing
(not Griffith)
Results: Hugely better sound quality.
I tried with a number of mikes:
1. Karaoke-style mike (works well with my tape-deck): so-so, muffled 78 rpm
sound.
2. Headset--a little buzz
I'm making a language lab version of my program and thought it would be helpful
for teachers if I could make it stay on top.
I've searched the archives but nothing so far.
many thanks
tom
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Sorry for the completely off topic nature of this...but
Can my iBook's DVD play DVDs from any world zone?
I have a Japanese issued iBook (English system). So before I order any DVDs
from Amazon, I thought I'd better check.
thanks
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Depends on the distro. FreeBSD, for example, apparently does not yet support
this
Funny, I just started doing CGI and it was on FreeBSD. No problems! I just went
to the rev site and got the proper Unix version.
(I did this about 3 weeks ago)
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Hear hear! frustration!
Here are some of the problems (in addition to yours) that I've encountered.
Words are not wrapped properly. This may be that the space char is not being
properly read as the word delimiter.
I was going to type more, but gotta run!
tm
Sivakatirswami, Thanks for the enlightenment. I'm just starting to work with
cgi and I can see that this heads up will save me a lot of headaches. Thanks
tom
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I'm pretty sure you can do it--because I do it (and I'm not a guru)
Here's what I do:
put the num of items in myVariable into tnum --or lines, or words,or..
repeat with i = tnum down to 1
do something with item i of myVariable
--drink coffee
end repeat
I noticed that when I ran shell scripts to convert WAVE files to MP3, if the
file name was long it wouldn't work. If I set the default folder to the
location of the files, that seemed to help.
I haven't experienced this bug on Windows--but maybe I had already dealt with
it on my Mac? Can't
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