Re: [OT] Deciding about On-Rev

2009-04-22 Thread Pierre Sahores
About point 2. : As long as on-rev give us a total control on both our document-root directory and our rev-application's .irev code, why would we need root access to a mutualised server ? Just would be an inacceptable security hole and the direct way to loose the best sand-box the server

Re: [OT] Deciding about On-Rev

2009-04-22 Thread David Bovill
Can we use ssh to compile and install binaries? I've had to do this a number of times with my Dreamhost account for instance - mainly to compile command line programs to be used with (Rev) cgi's. I can;t remember the details - but I must have used my user account and not sudo / root. For instance

Re: [OT] Deciding about On-Rev

2009-04-22 Thread George C Brackett
Yes, you can. I can do without sudo/root, but I can't do without SSH access. I've been thinking through what I actually use to manage my multiple domains, and command-line access -- to run scripts directly, to execute shell commands, to be sure I know for sure the contents of any

Re: [OT] Deciding about On-Rev

2009-04-22 Thread Robert Brenstein
On 22.04.09 at 10:59 -0400 George C Brackett apparently wrote: Yes, you can. I can do without sudo/root, but I can't do without SSH access. I've been thinking through what I actually use to manage my multiple domains, and command-line access -- to run scripts directly, to execute shell

Re: [OT] Deciding about On-Rev

2009-04-22 Thread George C Brackett
Thanks -- I didn't know that. George On Apr 22, 2009, at 11:31 AM, Robert Brenstein wrote: On 22.04.09 at 10:59 -0400 George C Brackett apparently wrote: Yes, you can. I can do without sudo/root, but I can't do without SSH access. I've been thinking through what I actually use to manage

Re: [OT] Deciding about On-Rev

2009-04-22 Thread Kevin Miller
On 22/4/09 16:59, George C Brackett gbrack...@luceatlux.com wrote: Yes, you can. I can do without sudo/root, but I can't do without SSH access. I've been thinking through what I actually use to manage my multiple domains, and command-line access -- to run scripts directly, to execute shell

Re: [OT] Deciding about On-Rev

2009-04-22 Thread George C Brackett
Thanks so much, Kevin, for taking time out from getting ready for your very important opportunity to present at the International World Wide Web Conference in Madrid! I appreciate the time and the thinking, and look forward to working with On-Rev. Break a leg at the Conference! George

Re: [OT] Deciding about On-Rev

2009-04-21 Thread Klaus Major
Hi George, I had a couple of questions that Heather answered, and others may be interested: 1. On-Rev will ultimately include domain registration services, as many other hosts do. That'ws very good news! I must confess I am a bit lost in my switch... Any timeframe for this service? Or

Re: [OT] Deciding about On-Rev

2009-04-21 Thread George C Brackett
Heather didn't give a time-frame, or I would have included it in my message. It was 'soon,' as I recall. George On Apr 21, 2009, at 3:31 AM, Klaus Major wrote: Hi George, I had a couple of questions that Heather answered, and others may be interested: 1. On-Rev will ultimately include

Re: [OT] Deciding about On-Rev

2009-04-21 Thread Colin Holgate
On Apr 21, 2009, at 1:16 AM, Phil Davis wrote: Colin Holgate wrote: What does SSH give you that you don't get with the secure disk image access? I assume when you say secure disk image access you're talking about WebDAV, which is what on-rev offers. I think I was probably thinking

Re: [OT] Deciding about On-Rev

2009-04-21 Thread George C Brackett
Phil's answer is a very good one; I'd like to expand on it a bit. When you log in to a server via SSH, you have command-line access to it, meaning that in essence you are sitting in front of it running the equivalent of Terminal on the Mac or Run on Windows (I think that's right). Many

[OT] Deciding about On-Rev

2009-04-20 Thread George C Brackett
I had a couple of questions that Heather answered, and others may be interested: 1. On-Rev will ultimately include domain registration services, as many other hosts do. 2. On-Rev will NOT offer root access (or near root access using sudo) to an account via SSH. I'm glad to hear the first

Re: [OT] Deciding about On-Rev

2009-04-20 Thread Alex Shaw
Thanks for that info George. I can understand not giving root access via SSH on a shared hosting environment but do you actually get any SSH access with on-rev? Can't find a reference on the website. regards alex George C Brackett wrote: I had a couple of questions that Heather answered,

Re: [OT] Deciding about On-Rev

2009-04-20 Thread Mark Smith
I don't think so - my attempts get this response: ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host Best, Mark Smith On 21 Apr 2009, at 02:00, Alex Shaw wrote: Thanks for that info George. I can understand not giving root access via SSH on a shared hosting environment but do

Re: [OT] Deciding about On-Rev

2009-04-20 Thread Colin Holgate
What does SSH give you that you don't get with the secure disk image access? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences:

Re: [OT] Deciding about On-Rev

2009-04-20 Thread Alex Shaw
Hi Colin In this case, I'm not sure what you mean by secure disk image access but SSH is useful for debugging traditional scripting languages (bash, php, ruby etc). You could compile debug on your own install of Linux and then upload to on-rev but as anyone who has used Linux knows, not

Re: [OT] Deciding about On-Rev

2009-04-20 Thread Phil Davis
Colin Holgate wrote: What does SSH give you that you don't get with the secure disk image access? Hi Colin, I assume when you say secure disk image access you're talking about WebDAV, which is what on-rev offers. In a nutshell: - SSH gives you the ability to execute any line command known