I actually think that Rev is easier for newbies than converts. For
those of us that spend/spent a great deal of time in C/Java/C++/C#,
Rev is non-intuitive until you swap your old brain out.
I found that if I typed how I would explain what I was doing to my
wife (a non-programmer) it helped
On May 8, 2009, at 5:33 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote:
Stephen Cox wrote:
So I search the Dictionary on empty, got nothing;
It's in there, in its own entry. You do have to make sure that the
all category is chosen in the left side column though, otherwise
the dictionary will filter results to
Hi from Paris,
Jacqueline,
Did I correctly understand what you put in your recent post :
And if literal
names are not quoted, the engine takes twice as long to execute the
statement because of the additional lookup.
Do you mean that the statement :
If field MyField = YES then ...
Francis Nugent Dixon wrote:
Hi from Paris,
Jacqueline,
Did I correctly understand what you put in your recent post :
And if literal
names are not quoted, the engine takes twice as long to execute the
statement because of the additional lookup.
Do you mean that the statement :
If field
Stephen-
Friday, May 8, 2009, 1:08:34 PM, you wrote:
The manual is good, but has no reference to other languages. It would help
get my head out of OOP into Revolution.
Don't get your head *too* far out of OOP. Revolution's got
encapsulation, inheritance of a sort, and polymorphism is up to
From: J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com
Yes, that is what I meant. But Dave Cragg disproved my theory, since
apparently the engine works at the same speed in either case (but I am
still having trouble believing it; it seems counter-intuitive.) I
think
it is better scripting form to
Don¹t hate me for asking another nub question. ;) I am reading the docs. But
this language is so different then what I am used to it¹s hard to phrase
searches correctly.
Ok, so how do I clear the contents of a field? Namely a text Field. I wanna
offer a clear button.
I¹ve been trying various
put empty into fld x of stack b
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Stephen Barncard
San Francisco
http://barncard.com
2009/5/8 Stephen Cox step...@networkxfla.com
Don¹t hate me for asking another nub question. ;) I am reading the docs.
But
this language is so different then what I am used to it¹s
If you only have 1 stack do you have to include the stack ID?
On 5/8/09 5:48 AM, stephen barncard stephenrevoluti...@barncard.com
wrote:
put empty into fld x of stack b
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Stephen Barncard
San Francisco
http://barncard.com
2009/5/8 Stephen Cox
Hi Stephen,
if the field is on your current card then you only need to
put empty into field yourfieldname
You only need to add more specific details if you're referring to some
other card and/or some other stack
put empty into field yourfieldname of card thatcard of stack
theotherstack
Heh.
You know I tried that. But didn't use quotes. So I assume when referring to
objects on cards you have to use quotes?
On 5/8/09 5:54 AM, Phil Jimmieson p...@liverpool.ac.uk wrote:
put empty into field yourfieldname
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Ah, another potential can of worms!
Rev normally allows you to use unquoted literal names, except where
they're reserved words in the language, or have weird characters in
them that would be difficult to parse (like spaces etc). To err on the
side of caution I usually always quote my field
Stephen Cox wrote:
Don¹t hate me for asking another nub question. ;)
I embrace you for it, please don't stop. This list gets way too ethereal
sometimes, I love the new people. Go for it. Ask everything.
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Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com
HyperActive Software
Stephen Cox wrote:
Heh.
You know I tried that. But didn't use quotes. So I assume when referring to
objects on cards you have to use quotes?
Literals are always quoted, so this:
field myField
means a field whose name is the literal string myField. If the quotes
are omitted, the engine
Recently, J. Landman Gay wrote:
if literal
names are not quoted, the engine takes twice as long to execute the
statement because of the additional lookup.
Jacque, is this really true? I've developed a construction/coding style
over the years of naming card objects with an underscore (
Scott Rossi wrote:
Recently, J. Landman Gay wrote:
if literal
names are not quoted, the engine takes twice as long to execute the
statement because of the additional lookup.
Jacque, is this really true?
I confess I made up the twice as long part, I don't really have any
hard numbers on
Recently, J. Landman Gay wrote:
On a tangent, another thing that takes longer is the omission of the
when refering to properties; again, just because the engine has to do a
second level of interpretation. You see a lot of this:
set cursor to none
set name of field 1 to whatever
Not
Scott Rossi wrote:
Recently, J. Landman Gay wrote:
On a tangent, another thing that takes longer is the omission of the
when refering to properties; again, just because the engine has to do a
second level of interpretation. You see a lot of this:
set cursor to none
set name of field 1 to
And you just answered another question I was about to scan the Dictionary
for. Thanks.
-Stephen Cox
On 5/8/09 3:25 PM, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com wrote:
set cursor to none
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Stephen Cox wrote:
And you just answered another question I was about to scan the Dictionary
for. Thanks.
-Stephen Cox
On 5/8/09 3:25 PM, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com wrote:
set cursor to none
Yeah, well, since you're new, *you* have to write set the cursor to
none. The rest
Hey Jacque,
Has no one ever put together an FAQ for Rev newbies? I realize that
could be a pretty horrendous effort, but should be useful and doable.
Joe Wilkins
On May 8, 2009, at 12:44 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote:
Yeah, well, since you're new, *you* have to write set the cursor to
none.
On 8 May 2009, at 20:13, J. Landman Gay wrote:
Scott Rossi wrote:
Recently, J. Landman Gay wrote:
if literal names are not quoted, the engine takes twice as long to
execute the
statement because of the additional lookup.
Jacque, is this really true?
I confess I made up the twice as long
The biggest problem I am having is figuring out what to search for. The
language is so unique. So take my question about emptying a field. Be easy
in an OOP language: empty(Text_field.text) - or something to that effect.
So I would search on empty and get tons of info on the function and
various
Jacque-
Friday, May 8, 2009, 12:13:43 PM, you wrote:
I confess I made up the twice as long part, I don't really have any
hard numbers on the increase. But as I understand it, it takes longer.
Though with Rev being as fast as it is, the delay is probably not very
noticeable most of the time.
On May 8, 2009, at 2:08 PM, Stephen Cox wrote:
The biggest problem I am having is figuring out what to search for.
The
language is so unique. So take my question about emptying a field.
Be easy
in an OOP language: empty(Text_field.text) - or something to that
effect.
So I would search on
Stephen,
The majority of us who use Rev have a background in HyperCard; going
way back. There are an abundance of inexpensive, used books on that
topic. Since much of the basic rev language is derived from HC,
reading such a book would be an easy method of cluing you in to Rev's
Bookmarked. In fact, let me spend some time going over it now. Might have to
waste less of your time on this list. Thanks.
-Stephen Cox
On 5/8/09 4:30 PM, Devin Asay devin_a...@byu.edu wrote:
Welcome, Stephen.
shameless plug
I teach Revolution classes for complete novices, and I have my
Stephen Cox wrote:
Be easy in an OOP language
that begs the question:
Have you ever tried saying Please can I have a glass of beer? in
Bulgarian?
I find it easy, because I speak the language.
However, ask me to clear a field in an OOP language and I be quite
unable to do it. :)
By the way, I got the printed user guide. Now this guide is one of the
best tech books I've seen. Thank you Revolution for using a font I can
actually read without using a magnifier.
-Stephen Cox
On 5/8/09 5:00 PM, Richmond Mathewson richmondmathew...@gmail.com wrote:
Coupled with
the PDF
Stephen Cox wrote:
So I search the Dictionary on empty, got nothing;
It's in there, in its own entry. You do have to make sure that the all
category is chosen in the left side column though, otherwise the
dictionary will filter results to include only those in the selected
category.
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Dave Cragg wrote:
On 8 May 2009, at 20:13, J. Landman Gay wrote:
Scott Rossi wrote:
Recently, J. Landman Gay wrote:
if literal names are not quoted, the engine takes twice as long to
execute the
statement because of the additional lookup.
Jacque, is this really true?
I confess I made up
Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote:
Hey Jacque,
Has no one ever put together an FAQ for Rev newbies? I realize that
could be a pretty horrendous effort, but should be useful and doable.
In addition to Devin's excellent tutorials, there are also the scripting
conference stacks:
Jacque, So, why can't we have a very conspicuously placed something
that does just what you've done here; lists links to all these great
resources and LABEL them as being for Newbies. Like in the very
first paragraph of the Users' Guide, or on a button that appears
prominently on the
On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 6:08 AM, Stephen Cox step...@networkxfla.com wrote:
The biggest problem I am having is figuring out what to search for. The
language is so unique. So take my question about emptying a field. Be easy
in an OOP language: empty(Text_field.text) - or something to that effect.
Good idea! We could call it NoobNuggets.com!
Bob Sneidar
IT Manager
Logos Management
Calvary Chapel CM
On May 8, 2009, at 3:13 PM, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote:
Jacque, So, why can't we have a very conspicuously placed something
that does just what you've done here; lists links to all these great
Actually, I would like to see someone bend over backwards and THEN
look down their noses. Now THAT would be entertainment!
Bob Sneidar
IT Manager
Logos Management
Calvary Chapel CM
On May 8, 2009, at 2:00 PM, Richmond Mathewson wrote:
Actually, Joe Lewis Wilkins' advice is very good indeed.
Joe-
Friday, May 8, 2009, 3:13:13 PM, you wrote:
Jacque, So, why can't we have a very conspicuously placed something
that does just what you've done here; lists links to all these great
resources and LABEL them as being for Newbies. Like in the very
first paragraph of the Users' Guide, or on
I have a few such links on my mostly neglected blog:
http://revined.blogspot.com
Hope I didn't miss anybody! If I did, let me know!
Judy
On Fri, 8 May 2009, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote:
Jacque, So, why can't we have a very conspicuously placed something that
does just what you've done here;
Oh, but mine's for normal people ;-P Not programmers.
Judy
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Mark:
Or even that there have been such conferences and may be more in the
future!
Joe Wilkins
On May 8, 2009, at 5:38 PM, Mark Wieder wrote:
...and *WHY* isn't there a link on the runrev site to the scripting
conferences? WHY do you have to know where they are in order to get to
them
Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote:
Jacque, So, why can't we have a very conspicuously placed something
that does just what you've done here; lists links to all these great
resources and LABEL them as being for Newbies.
Yeah, RR needs to do that. In the meantime, I'd be happy to compile a
list and post
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