Live Code owned by Microsoft (and others) ? [Was: Re: GOOSE BUMPS]

2010-10-01 Thread Medard
René Micout rene.mic...@numericable.com wrote: 8th in France ! 1st here* -- but it is a trademark of codelab ;- and their start page is definitevely hideous [pity for my eyes!] the third is: http://www.abstractmachine.net/thesis/diagrams.php?name=livecode the 7th:

Re: Live Code owned by Microsoft (and others) ? [Was: Re: GOOSE BUMPS]

2010-10-01 Thread Richard Gaskin
Medard wrote: 1st here* -- but it is a trademark of codelab ;- In what country? The US Patent and Trademark Office shows two entries for livecode:

Re: Live Code owned by Microsoft (and others) ? [Was: Re: GOOSE BUMPS]

2010-10-01 Thread Richard Gaskin
Please forgive the links in my last post. It seems the USPTO uses unnecessarily time-sensitive session IDs, so the URLs I provided won't work. In fact, I can't find a way to make a useful URL to even the search page, so here's how to get to it: 1. Go to:

Re: Live Code owned by Microsoft (and others) ? [Was: Re: GOOSE BUMPS]

2010-10-01 Thread Kevin Miller
On 01/10/2010 15:44, Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com wrote: Please forgive the links in my last post. It seems the USPTO uses unnecessarily time-sensitive session IDs, so the URLs I provided won't work. In fact, I can't find a way to make a useful URL to even the search page, so

RE: Live Code owned by Microsoft (and others) ? [Was: Re: GOOSE BUMPS]

2010-10-01 Thread Lynn Fredricks
Please forgive the links in my last post. It seems the USPTO uses unnecessarily time-sensitive session IDs, so the URLs I provided won't work. I hope some patent troll has a patent on their time sensitive session ID system and rolls them for it - let them have a taste ;-) Best regards,

Re: GOOSE BUMPS

2010-09-22 Thread Alejandro Tejada
://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/GOOSE-BUMPS-tp2546937p2550170.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe

Re: GOOSE BUMPS

2010-09-22 Thread René Micout
. This is really good. Way to go! :D Al -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/GOOSE-BUMPS-tp2546937p2550170.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use

Re: GOOSE BUMPS

2010-09-22 Thread Alejandro Tejada
: richmondsrevolution.pbwiki.com. ;-) -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/GOOSE-BUMPS-tp2546937p2550202.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution

Re: GOOSE BUMPS

2010-09-22 Thread Richard Gaskin
Alejandro Tejada wrote: http://www.ries.com/articles-positioningera.php Excellent article. Google, Yahoo, Twitter, even Kodak are all colossally stupid names; for the reasons that article points, out positioning is about far more than names. The product experience is what people buy, and

Re: GOOSE BUMPS

2010-09-22 Thread Richmond
On 09/22/2010 03:39 PM, Alejandro Tejada wrote: By the way, Richmond should update this Wikipedia page with more recent information: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RunRev Notice that his Wiki appears in the body of the article. Runtime Revolution contains a built-in help system. A wiki for

Re: GOOSE BUMPS

2010-09-22 Thread Alejandro Tejada
are not updating it anymore, Why it is still included in the Wikipedia? I noticed that Ken Ray's Tips webpages are not included either... Al -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/GOOSE-BUMPS-tp2546937p2550532.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing

Re: GOOSE BUMPS

2010-09-22 Thread Richmond
On 09/22/2010 06:31 PM, Alejandro Tejada wrote: Hi Richmond, Richmond Mathewson-2 wrote: Quite frankly that project died a death quite a few years ago when there was insufficient uptake of editors and contributors. Previously, i though that this Wiki was your personal journal in the

Re: GOOSE BUMPS

2010-09-21 Thread Kevin Miller
On 20/09/2010 20:02, Timothy Miller gand...@doctortimothymiller.com wrote: I don't understand the significance of the name change to LiveCode. Is this an internal reorganization or marketing strategy? Or has ownership changed? The ownership has not changed. From the FAQ: The new name more

Re: GOOSE BUMPS

2010-09-21 Thread Richmond
On 09/21/2010 06:18 PM, Kevin Miller wrote: On 20/09/2010 20:02, Timothy Millergand...@doctortimothymiller.com wrote: I don't understand the significance of the name change to LiveCode. Is this an internal reorganization or marketing strategy? Or has ownership changed? The ownership has not

Re: GOOSE BUMPS

2010-09-21 Thread Richard Gaskin
DunbarX wrote: In a message dated 9/20/10 4:14:41 PM, janschenkel writes: And it is infinitely more internet-searchable. This alone may be the most important aspect... http://www.google.com/search?q=runrev http://www.google.com/search?q=livecode

Re: GOOSE BUMPS

2010-09-21 Thread DunbarX
Richard: Are you implying that there is very little returned when searching livecode? Give it a few days at least, no? Craig In a message dated 9/21/10 4:16:25 PM, ambassa...@fourthworld.com writes: http://www.google.com/search?q=rapid+application+development

Re: GOOSE BUMPS

2010-09-21 Thread Colin Holgate
On Sep 21, 2010, at 4:20 PM, dunb...@aol.com wrote: Are you implying that there is very little returned when searching livecode? In fact there is five times as much when searching for livecode (because it just knows that you really meant live code). Searching for +livecode cuts that down a

GOOSE BUMPS

2010-09-20 Thread Shadow Slash
I just checked the RunRev homepage right now only to find out about LiveCode!! I suddenly felt that goose bumpy feeling when I first saw it and also when I realized that revMedia, revStudio and revEnterprise is gone from the product lists. There's just LiveCode. xP

Re: GOOSE BUMPS

2010-09-20 Thread Michael Kann
Great name. Should also change the name of the company to LiveCode. Congratulations to the home team. Mike --- On Mon, 9/20/10, Shadow Slash shadow.sl...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Shadow Slash shadow.sl...@yahoo.com Subject: GOOSE BUMPS To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Date: Monday, September

Re: GOOSE BUMPS

2010-09-20 Thread Colin Holgate
For anyone already curious about this, if you have an existing license for a version of Revolution, when you go into your account settings you'll find that you're already licensed for LiveCode. You can download the release 4.5, now called LiveCode, and as you run it you do a log in using your

Re: GOOSE BUMPS

2010-09-20 Thread Andrew Kluthe
So, no revMobile? Just LiveCode? What about On-Rev? While the site still exists, there don't seem to be links on the new LiveCode site. Whats new about 4.5 that would make it a worthwhile investment? -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/GOOSE-BUMPS

Re: GOOSE BUMPS

2010-09-20 Thread wayne durden
Hello Colin, I am just a tad confused, have folks with a license received a new Rev account password yet. I don't want to get stuck in a bit of limbo. I have an enterprise license for a little over another year, but on the RC I downloaded you don't put in the license code any longer and I

Re: GOOSE BUMPS

2010-09-20 Thread Colin Holgate
On Sep 20, 2010, at 10:17 AM, wayne durden wrote: Thanks for any clarity on the situation. Perhaps I should email Heather if folks have received an account password already... She might be busy today! My account login email arrived only 85 minutes ago, and the general announcement one

Re: GOOSE BUMPS

2010-09-20 Thread Kevin Miller
On 20/09/2010 15:17, wayne durden wdur...@gmail.com wrote: I am just a tad confused, have folks with a license received a new Rev account password yet. I don't want to get stuck in a bit of limbo. I have an enterprise license for a little over another year, but on the RC I downloaded you

Re: GOOSE BUMPS

2010-09-20 Thread Heather Nagey
Dear Folks, Actually, quite a lot of you may still not have your new account details - please be patient, it is on its way to you. We have an extremely large database we are sending account details to and the mail server is taking a little time to work through them. Warm Regards,

Re: GOOSE BUMPS

2010-09-20 Thread DunbarX
Taking time? Why not have Rev do it? In a message dated 9/20/10 12:47:17 PM, heat...@runrev.com writes: We have an  extremely large database we are sending account details to and the  mail server is taking a little time to work through them. ___

Re: GOOSE BUMPS

2010-09-20 Thread Colin Holgate
On Sep 20, 2010, at 12:49 PM, dunb...@aol.com wrote: Taking time? Why not have Rev do it? Did you mean have LiveCode do it? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage

Re: GOOSE BUMPS

2010-09-20 Thread Malte Pfaff-Brill
Hi Andrew, Whats new about 4.5 that would make it a worthwhile investment? what´s new (in order of importance to me. mileage may vary) - On the majority of my projects the engine is a (measured) blazing 30% faster - PDF printing - a heap of annoyances fixed - much more stable Linux version (I

Re: GOOSE BUMPS

2010-09-20 Thread Richmond
Let's see now: I program with . . . xTalk, Transcript, RevTalk, Revolution, RunRev, LiveCode . . . Yer Wot? Plain confusing. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage

Re: GOOSE BUMPS

2010-09-20 Thread Colin Holgate
On Sep 20, 2010, at 2:19 PM, Richmond wrote: Let's see now: I program with . . . xTalk, Transcript, RevTalk, Revolution, RunRev, LiveCode . . . Yer Wot? Plain confusing. Make sure to list them all on your CV, it'll look impressive. ___

Re: GOOSE BUMPS

2010-09-20 Thread Shadow Slash
...@gmail.com wrote: From: Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.com Subject: Re: GOOSE BUMPS To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Date: Monday, 20 September, 2010, 6:19 PM Let's see now: I program with . . . xTalk, Transcript, RevTalk, Revolution, RunRev, LiveCode

Re: GOOSE BUMPS

2010-09-20 Thread Richmond
On 09/20/2010 09:28 PM, Colin Holgate wrote: On Sep 20, 2010, at 2:19 PM, Richmond wrote: Let's see now: I program with . . . xTalk, Transcript, RevTalk, Revolution, RunRev, LiveCode . . . Yer Wot? Plain confusing. Make sure to list them all on your CV, it'll look impressive. Well, I

Re: GOOSE BUMPS

2010-09-20 Thread Richmond
For those of you who have the 'benefits' of Safari 4.1.2 on Mac OS 10.4.11 it makes a right Horlicks of the new website; while on Firefox (same OS) it looks right spiffy, as, indeed, it does through Firefox, IceCat, Chromium and Midori on Ubuntu 10.10 Beta. Somebody, who probably got paid

Re: GOOSE BUMPS

2010-09-20 Thread Timothy Miller
Derrr... I don't understand the significance of the name change to LiveCode. Is this an internal reorganization or marketing strategy? Or has ownership changed? Tim ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this

Re: GOOSE BUMPS

2010-09-20 Thread Richmond
On 09/20/2010 10:02 PM, Timothy Miller wrote: Derrr... I don't understand the significance of the name change to LiveCode. Is this an internal reorganization or marketing strategy? Or has ownership changed? Tim I don't understand this either; certainly I thought product recognition

Re: GOOSE BUMPS

2010-09-20 Thread stephen barncard
It's a repackage and rebranding, partially in response to surveys. The ownership is the same as far as I can tell. The web site looks great. On 20 September 2010 12:02, Timothy Miller gand...@doctortimothymiller.comwrote: Derrr... I don't understand the significance of the name change to

Re: GOOSE BUMPS

2010-09-20 Thread Richmond
On 09/20/2010 10:09 PM, stephen barncard wrote: It's a repackage and rebranding, partially in response to surveys. The ownership is the same as far as I can tell. The web site looks great. That's funny; I completed several surveys. I don't remember anything about name changes and aggressive

Re: GOOSE BUMPS

2010-09-20 Thread DunbarX
This was a thead a while ago. What to call the language. I also prefer transcript. It sounds grown-up, professional, even. Something hypertalk lacked; which always seemed, well, not grown-up. I hope that the product name change (never mind the far less critical language name) is well

Re: GOOSE BUMPS

2010-09-20 Thread Richmond
On 09/20/2010 10:13 PM, dunb...@aol.com wrote: This was a thead a while ago. What to call the language. I also prefer transcript. It sounds grown-up, professional, even. Something hypertalk lacked; which always seemed, well, not grown-up. I hope that the product name change (never mind the far

Re: GOOSE BUMPS

2010-09-20 Thread Jim Kanter
It's New and Improved! Congrats to the team and good luck to all of us! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences:

Re: GOOSE BUMPS

2010-09-20 Thread Jan Schenkel
--- On Mon, 9/20/10, dunb...@aol.com dunb...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 9/20/10 2:28:49 PM, shadow.sl...@yahoo.com writes: I personally prefer it to be called Transcript though.because it just sounds unique and the sort. Plus SourceForge has officially accepted it as one

Re: GOOSE BUMPS

2010-09-20 Thread DunbarX
This alone may be the most important aspect... Craig Newman In a message dated 9/20/10 4:14:41 PM, janschen...@yahoo.com writes: And it is infinitely more internet-searchable. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please

Re: GOOSE BUMPS

2010-09-20 Thread Chipp Walters
OOPS. LiveCode.com isn't *owned*. I would've expected THAT to be a prerequisite before naming. On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 3:35 PM, dunb...@aol.com wrote: This alone may be the most important aspect... Craig Newman In a message dated 9/20/10 4:14:41 PM, janschen...@yahoo.com writes: And it

Re: GOOSE BUMPS

2010-09-20 Thread Dar Scott
On Sep 20, 2010, at 1:02 PM, Timothy Miller wrote: I don't understand the significance of the name change to LiveCode. Is this an internal reorganization or marketing strategy? Or has ownership changed? No doubt it is to keep it distinct from the revolution. When and if it comes. Dar

Re: GOOSE BUMPS

2010-09-20 Thread Mark Wieder
Dar- Monday, September 20, 2010, 2:01:40 PM, you wrote: No doubt it is to keep it distinct from the revolution. When and if it comes. ...won't be televised, though... -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-revolution mailing list

Re: GOOSE BUMPS

2010-09-20 Thread Mark Swindell
Will T-Rev still work with LiveCode? On Sep 20, 2010, at 2:06 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: Dar- Monday, September 20, 2010, 2:01:40 PM, you wrote: No doubt it is to keep it distinct from the revolution. When and if it comes. ...won't be televised, though... -- -Mark Wieder

Re: GOOSE BUMPS

2010-09-20 Thread stephen barncard
It does. sqb On 20 September 2010 15:06, Mark Swindell mdswind...@cruzio.com wrote: Will T-Rev still work with LiveCode? On Sep 20, 2010, at 2:06 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: Dar- Monday, September 20, 2010, 2:01:40 PM, you wrote: No doubt it is to keep it distinct from the revolution.

Re: GOOSE BUMPS

2010-09-20 Thread David C.
Will T-Rev still work with LiveCode? ...only if you use a Mac. The rest of us are out of luck. Best regards, David C. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your