Re: Harry Potter's magic button - a solution to another tricky group bug

2010-08-09 Thread Richard Gaskin
Wilhelm Sanke wrote: On August 7 you wrote: Yeah, the boundingRect property been a godsend on some projects, and I was quite pleased when Raney added it. Makes short work of things that can get quite complicated without it. Could you possibly provide us - the revolution users - with more de

Re: Harry Potter's magic button - a solution to another tricky group bug

2010-08-08 Thread Wilhelm Sanke
On Sat Aug 7, 2010, Richard Gaskin ambassador at fourthworld.com wrote: For the main dictionary entry, use the Documentation specifier when filing the request in the RQCC. > If the boundingrect of a group is such a powerful property I wonder why > the default for groups isn't "boundingrect not

Re: Harry Potter's magic button - a solution to another tricky group bug

2010-08-07 Thread Richard Gaskin
Wilhelm Sanke wrote: There seems to be no difference between "boundingrect empty and locLocation true" and "boundingrect not empty and lockLocation false", the option of "boundingrect not empty and lockLocaction true", which would describe the properties of the group as I use it now, is absent i

Re: Harry Potter's magic button - a solution to another tricky group bug

2010-08-07 Thread Wilhelm Sanke
On Sat Aug 7, 2010, Richard Gaskin ambassador at fourthworld.com wrote Wilhelm Sanke wrote: > Richard, > > Thanks for this really valuable information. > > "set the boundingrect of group x to the rect of group x" solves the > complete list of problems, the "setting" and "keeping" bugs are no

Re: Harry Potter's magic button - a solution to another tricky group bug

2010-08-07 Thread Richard Gaskin
Wilhelm Sanke wrote: Richard, Thanks for this really valuable information. "set the boundingrect of group x to the rect of group x" solves the complete list of problems, the "setting" and "keeping" bugs are no longer interfering and all side effects have gone away - like with the magic button,

Re: Harry Potter's magic button - a solution to another tricky group bug

2010-08-07 Thread Wilhelm Sanke
On Fri Aug 6, 2010, Richard Gaskin ambassador at fourthworld.com Wilhelm Sanke wrote: > Actually, there are at least two bugs: The problem of "setting" the loc > and that of "keeping" the loc - although the lockloc of the image is set > to true. "Lockloc" in the context of the definition abov

Re: Harry Potter's magic button - a solution to another tricky group bug

2010-08-06 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 8/6/10 12:08 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Yes, with the default dynamic behavior of groups this is what most folks will experience. But some time ago I needed more canvas-like behaviors, and Scott Raney accommodated me by adding the boundingRect property for groups. His group has only 2 object

Re: Harry Potter's magic button - a solution to another tricky group bug

2010-08-06 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 8/6/10 12:01 PM, Wilhelm Sanke wrote: I need to rephrase the bug definition after Jacqueline has found out about the effect of the group scrollbars: "If an image is smaller than the dimensions of a group and the vscrollbar and the hscrollbar are set to true, then you cannot set the loc of the

Re: Harry Potter's magic button - a solution to another tricky group bug

2010-08-06 Thread Richard Gaskin
Wilhelm Sanke wrote: Actually, there are at least two bugs: The problem of "setting" the loc and that of "keeping" the loc - although the lockloc of the image is set to true. "Lockloc" in the context of the definition above is also broken. After having succesfully centered the image, it will - as

Re: Harry Potter's magic button - a solution to another tricky group bug

2010-08-06 Thread Wilhelm Sanke
I need to rephrase the bug definition after Jacqueline has found out about the effect of the group scrollbars: "If an image is smaller than the dimensions of a group and the vscrollbar and the hscrollbar are set to true, then you cannot set the loc of the image to the loc of the group or relia

Re: Harry Potter's magic button - a solution to another tricky group bug

2010-08-04 Thread Wilhelm Sanke
On Tue Aug 3, 2010, J. Landman Gay jacque at hyperactivesw.com wrote: I downloaded your stack and took a look. The problem isn't an unlocked group (your group was locked.) Jacqueline, really thanks for taking a look. Thanks to the others who gave feedback, too, but I think by responding to J

Re: Harry Potter's magic button - a solution to another tricky group bug

2010-08-03 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 8/3/10 2:55 PM, Wilhelm Sanke wrote: 1. The magic button - as a workaround - resolves the group bug that YOU CANNOT SET THE LOC OF AN IMAGE IN A GROUP IF THE IMAGE IS SMALLER THAN THE GROUP. In the case of a smaller image the scriptline "set the loc of image "x" to the loc of group "y"" wil

Re: Harry Potter's magic button - a solution to another tricky group bug

2010-08-03 Thread Geoff Canyon Rev
Not sure, but I'd guess that the OP is falling afoul of the elastic nature of groups that have lockloc=false. When that is the case, groups automatically snap to the bounds of whatever they contain whenever they get the chance -- i.e. when the things they contain move or are themselves resized (I b

Re: Harry Potter's magic button - a solution to another tricky group bug

2010-08-03 Thread DunbarX
Me, too, with a group and an even smaller image. If I set the loc of the image to a point outside the group, the group expands to contain it, as usual. If I set it to a point anywhere inside the group, again, the group extent adjusts. On a Mac. Does this matter? Craig Newman __

Re: Harry Potter's magic button - a solution to another tricky group bug

2010-08-03 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 8/3/10 2:55 PM, Wilhelm Sanke wrote: YOU CANNOT SET THE LOC OF AN IMAGE IN A GROUP IF THE IMAGE IS SMALLER THAN THE GROUP. In the case of a smaller image the scriptline "set the loc of image "x" to the loc of group "y"" will place the image at the topleft corner of the group instead (unless

Harry Potter's magic button - a solution to another tricky group bug

2010-08-03 Thread Wilhelm Sanke
I was so intrigued by the various effects of the workaround that I included "magic" in the subject line. Bringing Harry Potter into play may also help to start the process of improvements for Revolution announced by Kevin last week, namely - among them - better communication with users and the