Re: OT: Apple at 30 - My Piece of the Big Fruit

2006-03-31 Thread kee nethery
Similar story, I was beta testing a Lisa at Chevron Research and we justified the purchase ($10K as I recall) solely on on the project management software app on the Lisa. Kee Nethery On Fri, 31 Mar 2006, Jim Carwardine wrote: A year or so later, Apple came out with MacProject and I use

Re: OT: Apple at 30 - My Piece of the Big Fruit

2006-03-31 Thread Judy Perry
Wow. Cool story! Judy On Fri, 31 Mar 2006, Jim Carwardine wrote: > A friend and I were responsible for the introduction of Macs to Saudi > Arabia. In about 1985, he came to me with this article on the Mac Plus and > said, hey look at this. Want to get one? We went to the local Apple dealer

Re: OT: Apple at 30 - My Piece of the Big Fruit

2006-03-31 Thread Dan Shafer
As Lynn said as he started this thread, he imagined that I and other long-time MacZealots might have some thoughts to share on this topic. I decided my thoughts were too long (and perhaps too personal) to post in this forum, but you can read them at my blog over at http://www.danshafer.com/onemind

Re: OT: Apple at 30 - My Piece of the Big Fruit

2006-03-31 Thread Jim Carwardine
A friend and I were responsible for the introduction of Macs to Saudi Arabia. In about 1985, he came to me with this article on the Mac Plus and said, hey look at this. Want to get one? We went to the local Apple dealer - yes, there were Apple IIs in Saudi. The dealer told he wouldn't order any

Re: OT: Apple at 30 - My Piece of the Big Fruit

2006-03-31 Thread jeffrey reynolds
those dev cds are great! I always waited each month to see what clever title and cool graphics were going to be on them (as well as all the goodies they contained!). certainly more creative and entertaining than all the other tech cds i had on the shelf... cheers, Jeffrey Reynolds On Ma

Re: OT: Apple at 30 - My Piece of the Big Fruit

2006-03-31 Thread Mark Wieder
Richard- Friday, March 31, 2006, 12:07:36 AM, you wrote: > OpenDoc evangelism ...is that another oxymoron?... -- -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsu

RE: OT: Apple at 30 - My Piece of the Big Fruit

2006-03-31 Thread Lynn Fredricks
Hi Mark, > > Ive been watching the nostalgia building over the last week for the > > Apple 30th anniversary (this Saturday on April 1) and > starting to feel > > a little nostalgic myself (digging out my much loved PowerCD). It > > wouldn't surprise > > Thanks for an enjoyable read. I still h

Re: OT: Apple at 30 - My Piece of the Big Fruit

2006-03-31 Thread Martin Baxter
jeffrey reynolds wrote: does anyone remember the Sinclair Z80? my first computer to own. whopping 32mb or ram and a micro tape drive (audio dictation tape) for its storage! what fun! Jeffrey, I wonder if maybe you mean the ZX81? - The ZX80 came with something like maybe 1K of ram as I rec

Re: OT: Apple at 30 - My Piece of the Big Fruit

2006-03-31 Thread Richard Gaskin
Mark Wieder wrote: I still haven't been able to bring myself to throw away my OpenDoc dev cds... sigh... I still have Apple's OpenDoc evangelism video -- sometimes I pull it out and it occurs to me, "Hey, that's Rev". :) -- Richard Gaskin Managing Editor, revJournal _

Re: OT: Apple at 30 - My Piece of the Big Fruit

2006-03-31 Thread Mark Wieder
Lynn- Wednesday, March 29, 2006, 7:20:54 PM, you wrote: > Ive been watching the nostalgia building over the last week for the Apple > 30th anniversary (this Saturday on April 1) and starting to feel a little > nostalgic myself (digging out my much loved PowerCD). It wouldn't surprise Thanks for

Re: OT: Apple at 30 - My Piece of the Big Fruit

2006-03-30 Thread Mark Wieder
jeffrey- Thursday, March 30, 2006, 2:47:59 PM, you wrote: > if anyone has a users manual for the sinclair z80 i would appreciate > talking with you, i lost mine a long while back and would love to > poke at it sometime! Not exactly a manual, but interested in a simulator? http://www.parse.com

Re: OT: Apple at 30 - My Piece of the Big Fruit

2006-03-30 Thread Judy Perry
Indeed, why not? I used to be able to do this in my FrankenLab... NetaTalk, anyone? We can't do this anymore even outside of my truly FUBAR'd lab??? (see how ignorance is bliss? all this time, I thought it was just our screwed-up environment). Judy On Thu, 30 Mar 2006, Andre Garzia wrote: >

Re: OT: Apple at 30 - My Piece of the Big Fruit

2006-03-30 Thread Judy Perry
Or, why on earth I would ever want to launch multiple instances of the SAME application :-/ Judy On Thu, 30 Mar 2006, Richard Gaskin wrote: > Chipp Walters wrote: > > > I still don't understand why I can't resize a > > window from any side :-( > > Funny, whenever I use Windows I wonder why I can

Re: OT: Apple at 30 - My Piece of the Big Fruit

2006-03-30 Thread Judy Perry
Oh yeah! I felt the exact same way. While everybody knows that I am certainly not a geek by even the most generous stretch of the definition, I had used and played around with DOS-based PCs, the Commodore64 (using the word processing app PaperClip -- anybody remember it? You could have 3 sizes o

RE: OT: Apple at 30 - My Piece of the Big Fruit

2006-03-30 Thread Judy Perry
Yeah, I'm remembering now that my $100 1 MB RAM upgrade probably didn't come through legit channels... a friend of the spousal unit made it happen... Judy On Thu, 30 Mar 2006, jeffrey reynolds wrote: > I remember getting my 2mb upgrade for my SE to go to 2.5mb in 1988. > it cost $350 through th

Re: OT: Apple at 30 - My Piece of the Big Fruit

2006-03-30 Thread Richard Gaskin
Chipp Walters wrote: Richard Gaskin wrote: Chipp Walters wrote: I still don't understand why I can't resize a window from any side :-( Funny, whenever I use Windows I wonder why I can't move a window from any side. :( Heh, cute (told you I'd use it). Still, when trying to 'grow' my scr

Re: OT: Apple at 30 - My Piece of the Big Fruit

2006-03-30 Thread Chipp Walters
Richard Gaskin wrote: Chipp Walters wrote: I still don't understand why I can't resize a window from any side :-( Funny, whenever I use Windows I wonder why I can't move a window from any side. :( Heh, cute (told you I'd use it). Still, when trying to 'grow' my script window (to see mo

Re: OT: Apple at 30 - My Piece of the Big Fruit

2006-03-30 Thread Stephen Barncard
My condolences on your switch to the dark side. Your Mac life has given you an edge on your cross-platform interface design, though. Before Revcon last year I could have sworn you were a Mac guy... sqb Apple II and Macs since 1980... Funny thing, I've got one now, and can't stand using it.

Re: OT: Apple at 30 - My Piece of the Big Fruit

2006-03-30 Thread Andre Garzia
On Mar 30, 2006, at 11:43 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Chipp Walters wrote: I still don't understand why I can't resize a window from any side :-( Funny, whenever I use Windows I wonder why I can't move a window from any side. :( The joy of difference... :) what about me that love my m

Re: OT: Apple at 30 - My Piece of the Big Fruit

2006-03-30 Thread Richard Gaskin
Chipp Walters wrote: I still don't understand why I can't resize a window from any side :-( Funny, whenever I use Windows I wonder why I can't move a window from any side. :( -- Richard Gaskin Managing Editor, revJournal ___ Rev tips,

Re: OT: Apple at 30 - My Piece of the Big Fruit

2006-03-30 Thread Chipp Walters
Yep, I was hired to head up industrial design at a small startup called 'Compaq.' Each day I hauled my Mac 128 up the elvator and the CEO would make some sort of comment about why I didn't use a Compaq, to which I replied, "as soon as it could do what the Mac could do I'd switch." Years late

Re: OT: Apple at 30 - My Piece of the Big Fruit

2006-03-30 Thread Dennis Brown
I can't even remember the year right now, but the place was Atlantic City (before they tore down the old casinos), at the First East Coast Computer Fair. I was there exhibiting my Wave Mate Jupiter II small computer systems (also available as a DYI kit). Everyone was wearing IBM tee shirt

Re: OT: Apple at 30 - My Piece of the Big Fruit

2006-03-30 Thread David Vaughan
On 31/03/2006, at 8:28, Robert Brenstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: We had Apple III (yes, the ill-fated 3 not 2) in the p-chem lab and nobody knew what to do with it, so I got a free rein in using it. That was a few years before Lisa and Macs. The Mac did not appear in Australia until 1985.

RE: OT: Apple at 30 - My Piece of the Big Fruit

2006-03-30 Thread jeffrey reynolds
Man I had forgot about the III, i was offered one cheap, but luckly had seen the lisa and had a Basis108 (it had both a 6502 and a z80) that had the umph of a III so i didnt bite! glad i didnt since i then got a 256K ram card for the Basis108 and i was the king with the huge ram drive! I

RE: OT: Apple at 30 - My Piece of the Big Fruit

2006-03-30 Thread Robert Brenstein
We had Apple III (yes, the ill-fated 3 not 2) in the p-chem lab and nobody knew what to do with it, so I got a free rein in using it. That was a few years before Lisa and Macs. My first programs allowed me to quickly check the correctness of calculations on student lab reports :) My first own

RE: OT: Apple at 30 - My Piece of the Big Fruit

2006-03-30 Thread jeffrey reynolds
I remember getting my 2mb upgrade for my SE to go to 2.5mb in 1988. it cost $350 through the berkeley education program (i was a grad student then). it was right when there was that short, but big, memory price spike (i think it was a fake shortage thing by some overseas suppliers) and when

RE: OT: Apple at 30 - My Piece of the Big Fruit

2006-03-30 Thread Lynn Fredricks
> > Ive been watching the nostalgia building over the last week for the > > Apple 30th anniversary (this Saturday on April 1) and > starting to feel > > a little nostalgic myself (digging out my much loved PowerCD). > > I'd totally forgotten about the PowerCD! I remember having to > buy one in

Re: OT: Apple at 30 - My Piece of the Big Fruit

2006-03-30 Thread David Burgun
On 30 Mar 2006, at 04:20, Lynn Fredricks wrote: Ive been watching the nostalgia building over the last week for the Apple 30th anniversary (this Saturday on April 1) and starting to feel a little nostalgic myself (digging out my much loved PowerCD). I'd totally forgotten about the PowerCD

RE: OT: Apple at 30 - My Piece of the Big Fruit

2006-03-30 Thread Lynn Fredricks
> What a fun 'blast from the past'! > > I was about to choke on your description of the $10k IIci but > then remembered that our own first Mac -- a II plain and tall > -- was a good $3k on an edu discount ca 1989, and that a > color monitor would have run us an extra $600 US. And that > the '

Re: OT: Apple at 30 - My Piece of the Big Fruit

2006-03-30 Thread Ian Wood
And to think I started with a Sinclair ZX81 with the massive expansion of the 16KB RAMpack... You lucky so-and-so! :-) Ian On 30 Mar 2006, at 05:35, Jim Ault wrote: May even try to start the luggable, but the lead batteries are toast. Maybe the adapter will still fire up the massive 2 Mb

Re: OT: Apple at 30 - My Piece of the Big Fruit

2006-03-30 Thread Judy Perry
Wow. What a fun 'blast from the past'! I was about to choke on your description of the $10k IIci but then remembered that our own first Mac -- a II plain and tall -- was a good $3k on an edu discount ca 1989, and that a color monitor would have run us an extra $600 US. And that the 'upgrade' fro

Re: OT: Apple at 30 - My Piece of the Big Fruit

2006-03-29 Thread Jim Ault
I think I will pull out my good ol' 128k Mac, 2nd HD, 2 Mb memory upgrade, Roger Bates Ram Disk+ and run a little Excel 1.0, Word 1.0, MacPaint, Hypercard 1.0, ResEdit, ResCopy, and a few of my favorite XCMD/XCFNs from Rinaldi and others. I actually wrote one XCFN in Pascal that *worked* using the

OT: Apple at 30 - My Piece of the Big Fruit

2006-03-29 Thread Lynn Fredricks
Ive been watching the nostalgia building over the last week for the Apple 30th anniversary (this Saturday on April 1) and starting to feel a little nostalgic myself (digging out my much loved PowerCD). It wouldn't surprise me if Dan and a few others have made some lengthy blog entries on "life with