???
The code of the revTools palette could be changed in further version,
so I prefer to keep my code outside it.
Plus, the lag-time seems not linked to the way I use but to the
LiveCode interaction with Linux, so reside directly in the code of the
revTools palette should be not helpful here, I think
Thanks
On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 8:39 AM, Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.com wrote:
On 11/13/2010 01:16 AM, zryip theSlug wrote:
On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 10:02 PM, zryip theSlugzryip.thes...@gmail.com
wrote:
Dear list members,
To follow the rev tools palette by a window (a palette), I use
palette by a window (a palette), I use the
send message in time form below :
command scanForRevToolsLoc
set the topLeft of this stack to the bottomLeft of stack Revtools
send scanForRevToolsLoc to me in 100 milliseconds
end scanForRevToolsLoc
This handler works as expect excepted for one thing
Why don't you just hack the revTools stack; then end-users can
swap-out their original revTools stacks with yours ???
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Dear list members,
To follow the rev tools palette by a window (a palette), I use the
send message in time form below :
command scanForRevToolsLoc
set the topLeft of this stack to the bottomLeft of stack
On 11/13/2010 01:16 AM, zryip theSlug wrote:
On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 10:02 PM, zryip theSlugzryip.thes...@gmail.com wrote:
Dear list members,
To follow the rev tools palette by a window (a palette), I use the
send message in time form below :
command scanForRevToolsLoc
set the topLeft
On 07/27/2010 11:06 PM, Alejandro Tejada wrote:
Hi all,
Which are the side effects, if any, of converting
the revMenubar in a palette in RevMedia:
write in the message box:
palette revMenubar
In this way, the revMenubar will float above
the stack in which i am working.
Not in Linux
works fine, as does script
control. Of course.
It seem counterintuitive to me, unless this is a bug, that an existing,
selected graphic is immune to the palette tools explicitly made to modify them.
Craig Newman
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Correct. The tool palette only sets the properties of the template
object, which controls how new objects look. To change the fill color of
an existing object, use its property inspector.
The same applies to any object; for example, setting a button style in
the tool palette only controls how
Thanks, Jacque.
That the template object is what is set by those tools is completely
understandable, and totally unresearchable. Longing for a Rev Goodman.
Craig
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Actually - this list is a kind of real-time Danny Goodman.
I don't think one person can profitably write and publish an
all-encompassing tome these days about Rev like Goodman did about HC - Rev
is too big now and constantly being improved. Witness Dan Shafer not
publishing volumes 2 and 3 ( or
On 7/28/10 11:30 AM, dunb...@aol.com wrote:
Thanks, Jacque.
That the template object is what is set by those tools is completely
understandable, and totally unresearchable. Longing for a Rev Goodman.
Like Stephen said, Rev got too big. I've considered writing a book a
couple of times and
There's one search mechanism you may not be aware of though. It needs
updating, but mostly still works. Under the Help menu, choose Revolution
search engine. There are lots of options there for searching web sites
(that's the part that needs updating,) lists, documentation, online search
Hi all,
Which are the side effects, if any, of converting
the revMenubar in a palette in RevMedia:
write in the message box:
palette revMenubar
In this way, the revMenubar will float above
the stack in which i am working. Previously
the revMenubar hides itself under the
stack and it becomes
Is there a way to discover if the Tools palette is visible (in
RevMedia)? I have a preOpenStack line to type t' with commandKey to
hide it when a stack launches (and launches Rev). But then if I open
another stack with the same openStack routine, it toggles it back
On Jun 24, 2010, at 4:02 PM, Emmett Gray wrote:
Is there a way to discover if the Tools palette is visible (in RevMedia)?
the visible of window revTools
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Hide/show stack revTools
Cool that all such gadgets are stacks.
Craig Newman
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preferences:
On 06/24/2010 11:02 PM, Emmett Gray wrote:
Is there a way to discover if the Tools palette is visible (in
RevMedia)? I have a preOpenStack line to type t' with commandKey to
hide it when a stack launches (and launches Rev). But then if I open
another stack with the same openStack routine
On Jun 24, 2010, at 4:09 PM, dunb...@aol.com wrote:
Hide/show stack revTools
Cool that all such gadgets are stacks.
It also reports as being a window, but in any case, the question was how to
know if it's current;y showing, and not how you would show it.
Colin.
Actually, he had a problem in that opening a new stack set the visible of
the tools palette back to true. So I think he also needs to know how to
access it, so he can hide it.
Craig.
In a message dated 6/24/10 4:16:05 PM, co...@verizon.net writes:
It also reports as being a window
On Jun 24, 2010, at 4:20 PM, dunb...@aol.com wrote:
Actually, he had a problem in that opening a new stack set the visible of
the tools palette back to true. So I think he also needs to know how to
access it, so he can hide it.
Any of the ways we've said to do it will work well, but he
Opie here; hide and show do what I need; I just want to hide it. But
how, other than asking here, was I to discover the name of that
stack? I poked all over including message-box asking the name of
stack n from 1 to 10, which turned up a bunch of stuff but not
revTools. It seems it has an ID
Emmett-
Thursday, June 24, 2010, 1:52:58 PM, you wrote:
Opie here; hide and show do what I need; I just want to hide it. But
how, other than asking here, was I to discover the name of that
stack? I poked all over including message-box asking the name of
put the openstacks
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Emmett Gray wrote:
Opie here; hide and show do what I need; I just want to hide it. But
how, other than asking here, was I to discover the name of that stack?
Handy trick: type this in the message box (but don't hit return yet):
put the short name of the mousestack
Then move your cursor
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Subject: Re: Tools palette showing?
Opie here; hide and show do what I need; I just want to hide it. But
how
On Jun 24, 2010, at 5:00 PM, Mark Wieder wrote:
put the openstacks
I used the older HyperCard form of:
answer the windows
which, as they are all stacks, amounts to the same thing.
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I had mentioned the function the stacks. There are several others. Check
the dictionary using the word stacks.
But your point is well taken. The dictionary is the primary resource for
learning the myriad capabilities of Rev, and, like searching with Google, you
need a certain flair in knowing
Colin-
Thursday, June 24, 2010, 2:22:12 PM, you wrote:
On Jun 24, 2010, at 5:00 PM, Mark Wieder wrote:
put the openstacks
I used the older HyperCard form of:
answer the windows
which, as they are all stacks, amounts to the same thing.
I opened the windows, but it was cold and overcast
as you go on.
When looking for a window name that might be the tools palette, my short term
memory coped with remembering revTools.
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Really, that is so cool!
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[use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Mark Wieder
[mwie...@ahsoftware.net]
Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 4:00 PM
To: How to use Revolution
Subject: Re: Tools palette
Dear list members,
To follow the rev tools palette by a window (a palette), I use the
send message in time form below :
command scanForRevToolsLoc
set the topLeft of this stack to the bottomLeft of stack Revtools
send scanForRevToolsLoc to me in 100 milliseconds
end scanForRevToolsLoc
You can also use keyboard shortcuts to switch between the browse and
pointer tools.
ctrl/cmd +9 or ctrl/cmd +0
This is technique I use, and it mostly works.
Bernard
On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 10:43 AM, Wilhelm Sanke sa...@hrz.uni-kassel.de wrote:
As I have found out now, in case the tools stack
is open, but always show the message box. (as a
debugging tool)
I agree that the matter of individual programming habits also plays a
role in our discussion - and that there may be only rare occasions to
use layout tools at the same time you edit a script, but the tools
palette also contains
On Fri, 18 Dec 2009, Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com wrote:
Wilhelm wrote:
What is really gained by hiding the tools palette when the script
editor
comes up - and it seems to me to be not only a matter of preferences,
but a real bug, that the tools palette does not reappear
On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 6:23 PM, Wilhelm Sanke sa...@hrz.uni-kassel.dewrote:
I had indicated the reproducible steps in my post of Dec 15 (thread Rev
IDE vs MetaCard IDE ):
- If you edit a script and close the editor with the close icon - instead
of the compile button - the tools palette
Kay C Lan lan.kc.macmail at gmail.com wrote:
- If you edit a script and close the editor with the close icon -
instead
of the compile button - the tools palette (which disappears when you
open
the script editor) will not re-appear.,
i.e. after you have made a change to the script
Wilhelm wrote:
On my medium-sized screen there is ample room besides the Rev tools
stack to accommodate two open script editor windows side by side, so
there is really no need to hide the tools stack in the default
preferences settings.
At the heart of this issue is the question: What would
Wilhelm wrote:
On my medium-sized screen there is ample room besides the Rev tools
stack to accommodate two open script editor windows side by side, so
there is really no need to hide the tools stack in the default
preferences settings.
I use the Rev 3.5 IDE editor for my development (single
Jim Ault wrote:
The option of individual script editor windows would be *very* nice,
This is a prefs setting too. Change it in the Script Editor pane and new
editor windows will open for each script. You can also right-click on
any tab in the editor to move that script to its own window.
Thanks for the tip... obviously I have not spent time exploring the
differences between 2.9 and 3.5.
On Dec 19, 2009, at 4:32 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote:
Jim Ault wrote:
The option of individual script editor windows would be *very* nice,
This is a prefs setting too. Change it in the
I will check if settings that preference
solves this problem.
Many thanks for your answer! :-)
Alejandro
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Just voted. The absolute worst thing for a technology teacher is to have the
technology fail in class!
George
On Dec 17, 2009, at 8:39 PM, Alejandro Tejada wrote:
Today, while teaching how to use RevMedia 4.00 v950
to a group of teachers, the tool palette dissapear
and sometimes reappear when
, this strange event will not repeat elsewhere,
anytime soon.
Alejandro
George C Brackett wrote:
Just voted. The absolute worst thing for a technology teacher
is to have the technology fail in class!
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Alejandro-
Friday, December 18, 2009, 7:10:14 AM, you wrote:
Not only that, but i could testify how some scripts
suddenly stopped working and stacks refused to
compile in any of the computers available...
Really weird. Later that day, when i received these
stacks via email, i was able to
George C Brackett wrote:
Just voted. The absolute worst thing for a technology teacher is to
have the technology fail in class!
Have you experienced the problem yourself? The team would like only
those people who actually have the problem to vote on it, and those
people should also add a
Jacqueline, I understand your point, and wouldn't be voting for this
'bug' anyway (it might be the case that Alejandro was caught out by
the behaviour of IDEs that were operating with defaults that he does
not see in his own IDE). But from what you're saying it seems to me
that the voting system
I find that fact disappointing.
that only a small subset of users ever bother to report bugs.
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Bernard Devlin wrote:
But from what you're saying it seems to me
that the voting system is being re-purposed.
Not exactly. I was basing it on a discussion I had with Mark Waddingham,
who bemoaned the fact that votes don't give him much indication of what
to work on next. The voting system
Confirmed here!
Judy
On Fri, 18 Dec 2009, Mark Wieder wrote:
This is a known problem.
Anytime you try to demonstrate any software it will fail randomly,
unexpectedly, and without apparent logical reason.
Recipe:
1. take known working application
2. demonstrate for prospective clients
On Thu Dec 17, 2009, J. Landman Gay jacque at hyperactivesw.com wrote:
Alejandro Tejada wrote:
Today, while teaching how to use RevMedia 4.00 v950
to a group of teachers, the tool palette dissapear
and sometimes reappear when users click at the
open stack. Sometimes, the tool palette
Goodness. I apologize, since I haven't seen the bug myself. I'll un-vote if
that's possible. I may have transgressed in the past, too. I guess I was voting
on the question, Is this an important bug to check out? rather than Is this
a bug that's causing you fits and ought to be fixed? Seems to
Wilhelm wrote:
What is really gained by hiding the tools palette when the script editor
comes up - and it seems to me to be not only a matter of preferences,
but a real bug, that the tools palette does not reappear when closing
the editor via the close icon?
Both presently existing defaults
It's not your job to make your bug voting habit the way runrev wants it to be.
it's runrevs task to make the vote system work in a way that is useful to them.
If the current system is not useful to them, then:
a.) your votes are superfluous, as they ignore votes, or use them only in
border
Recently, Björnke von Gierke wrote:
It's not your job to make your bug voting habit the way runrev wants it to be.
it's runrevs task to make the vote system work in a way that is useful to
them.
So wait, is this a vote FOR or AGAINST voting?
:-)
Regards,
Scott Rossi
Creative Director
I vote against voting for for, and I vote.
On Dec 18, 2009, at 3:12 PM, Scott Rossi wrote:
Recently, Björnke von Gierke wrote:
It's not your job to make your bug voting habit the way runrev wants it to
be.
it's runrevs task to make the vote system work in a way that is useful to
them.
George C Brackett wrote:
Goodness. I apologize, since I haven't seen the bug myself. I'll
un-vote if that's possible. I may have transgressed in the past, too.
Nah, I wouldn't worry about it. And I apologize for sounding harsh. When
I wrote, the voice in my head sounded so matter of fact. And
Wilhelm Sanke wrote:
What is really gained by hiding the tools palette when the script editor
comes up - and it seems to me to be not only a matter of preferences,
but a real bug, that the tools palette does not reappear when closing
the editor via the close icon?
Mostly it gains space
Today, while teaching how to use RevMedia 4.00 v950
to a group of teachers, the tool palette dissapear
and sometimes reappear when users click at the
open stack. Sometimes, the tool palette completely
dissapears and it was necessary to close the IDE and
restart RevMedia to use again the palette
Alejandro Tejada wrote:
Today, while teaching how to use RevMedia 4.00 v950
to a group of teachers, the tool palette dissapear
and sometimes reappear when users click at the
open stack. Sometimes, the tool palette completely
dissapears and it was necessary to close the IDE and
restart RevMedia
behaved the same way as if the palette were
open,
but none was visible. I was able to hit escape and get back
control. Today
I tried to change the bg color of a field and got the same freeze,
only now
there is no way to get control back.
Quick testing shows that
launch Rev
new mainstack
it again and got the following:
Rev 2.9/ OSX Leopardbehaved the same way as if the palette were
open,
but none was visible. I was able to hit escape and get back
control. Today
I tried to change the bg color of a field and got the same freeze,
only now
there is no way to get control back
yesterday.
Rev 2.9/ OSX Leopard
I was using Eric’s new trial stack, changed the row color once,
success,
then tried to change it again and got the following:
Rev 2.9/ OSX Leopardbehaved the same way as if the palette were
open,
but none was visible. I was able to hit escape and get back
All seemed to be well before yesterday.
Rev 2.9/ OSX Leopard
I was using Eric¹s new trial stack, changed the row color once, success,
then tried to change it again and got the following:
Rev 2.9/ OSX Leopardbehaved the same way as if the palette were open,
but none was visible. I was able
Is the small close window button used in palette windows available
from within Rev, or does one have to build a facsimile oneself? The
one on the tools palette, for example... on mouseOver it changes to
the red circle with the black x within. I'd like to apply it to a
faux window within
I know that the following command is used to open a stack in a palette window:
palette stack My Stack
What is the specific command to open a particular card in a stack as a palette
window? For instance, what if I wanted to open card Boy in stack My Stack
as a palette window?
I have tried
Bonsoir Steve,
go card Boy of stack My Stack as palette will make the job :-)
Le 18 nov. 08 à 22:28, Steven Axtell a écrit :
I know that the following command is used to open a stack in a
palette window:
palette stack My Stack
What is the specific command to open a particular card
Eric,
Thank you much for the help!
Steve
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Using Rev Media 2.9 in Windows XP
palette stack a -- no effect
go stack a as palette -- works correctly
Do others experience this?
David Epstein
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Using Rev Media 2.9 in Windows XP
palette stack a -- no effect
go stack a as palette -- works correctly
Do others experience this?
David Epstein
Hi David,
That's one of the built-in limitations of Rev Media,
along with database access and a few other
Hi Jan
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Using Rev Media 2.9 in Windows XP
palette stack a -- no effect
go stack a as palette -- works correctly
Do others experience this?
David Epstein
Hi David,
That's one of the built-in limitations of Rev Media,
OK, but if:
- palette stack a
does not work
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Using Rev Media 2.9 in Windows XP
palette stack a -- no effect
go stack a as palette -- works correctly
Do others experience this?
David Epstein
Hi David,
That's one of the built-in limitations of Rev
Media
-- skip if it is a palette or similar
if stackMode 2 then pass resumeStack
-- safety (stops messages and other stack causing recursion)
put the short name of stackObject into stackName
if char 1 to 3 of stackName = rev then pass resumeStack
-- do your stuff here
beep
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Hi david,
I'd trap the resumeStack message, sometimes the (pre)openStack
message, in
a front script.
Concerning the refreshing of a palette or a modeless stack when
something in the topstack changes or when the topstack itself changes:
three examples and hints:
1. Rev
Its been a while since I've done this... what's the best way to trap for
this? Do I need a front script (in case the stack blocks a message) - or can
I intercept and pass a Rev IDE specific message?
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Hi david,
I'd trap the resumeStack message, sometimes the (pre)openStack
message, in a front script.
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Yeah - and what a nightmare to debug! Not sure if it does this in Rev IDE
but any bug or event that causes something to be put into the messagebox -
triggers the resumeStack again which can then cause infinite loops - goto
block that
2008/6/2 Mark Schonewille [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Hi david,
Hi all,
can someone confirm that RevBrowser does not work (means nothing will
be displayed,
although no error or something occurs, the window is just empty) if
opened in a palette window?
Did not find a hint in the docs. I'm on OS X Leopard.
I even tried the Rev browser example stack
Hi Klaus - I seem to recall that altBrowser wouldn't work with palettes on OSX.
I guess that's still the case.
Terry...
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Subject: Problems with RevBrowser in palette
Thanks, Richard. I may do that. Or I may just leave it a plain
palette window without close or minimize buttons. That is allowed.
Mark
On Apr 6, 2008, at 11:27 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote:
Mark Swindell wrote:
What I'm after is a stack that behaves as a palette (floats above
everything
The default setup for a palette stack is a red close button for OS X.
Is it possible to include a minimize button in a palette stack?
Thx,
Mark
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On Sun, Apr 6, 2008 at 4:10 PM, Mark Swindell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The default setup for a palette stack is a red close button for OS X. Is it
possible to include a minimize button in a palette stack?
If the decorations of a palette stack are set to default, then you
get a close button
Hi Mark and Sarah,
Le 6 avr. 08 à 08:41, Sarah Reichelt a écrit :
On Sun, Apr 6, 2008 at 4:10 PM, Mark Swindell
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The default setup for a palette stack is a red close button for OS
X. Is it
possible to include a minimize button in a palette stack
Thanks Sarah and Eric,
I also observed that the decorations didn't stick when the window was
set to palette. Float over everything sets the style of the stack
to palette.
What I'm after is a stack that behaves as a palette (floats above
everything else in my application), but can still
Mark Swindell wrote:
What I'm after is a stack that behaves as a palette (floats above
everything else in my application), but can still be minimized.
Unfortunately that's not supported by the OS X HIG.
Is this important enough to write a few lines of script? If so, you
could make
On 02/04/2008, Richard Gaskin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Klaus Major wrote:
OK - no answer - but it only happens when the target of the text-
palette is
a non-list field?
No, ANY field.
Looks like the engine automatically puts the focus on the first field
in the stack, palette
Hi Richard,
Klaus Major wrote:
I have a couple of palettes and toplevel stacks open here.
Now when I select some text in a field of a non palette stack
and click on a button/list field in a palette, the selection
disappers,
so the selectedchunk is empty in that case.
Too bad if you
Hi Richard,
Klaus Major wrote:
I have a couple of palettes and toplevel stacks open here.
Now when I select some text in a field of a non palette stack
and click on a button/list field in a palette, the selection
disappers,
so the selectedchunk is empty in that case.
Too bad if you
OK - no answer - but it only happens when the target of the text-palette is
a non-list field? List fields seem OK - so maybe there is a clue in the
properties there?
On 02/04/2008, Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Richard,
Klaus Major wrote:
I have a couple of palettes
Hi David,
OK - no answer - but it only happens when the target of the text-
palette is
a non-list field?
No, ANY field.
Looks like the engine automatically puts the focus on the first field
in the stack, palette or not.
I will play a bit with the new focus on nothing command in 2.9x
Klaus Major wrote:
OK - no answer - but it only happens when the target of the text-
palette is
a non-list field?
No, ANY field.
Looks like the engine automatically puts the focus on the first field
in the stack, palette or not.
In my experience, IIRC, it's not limited to fields but any
Is there a closefield handler in the message path doing something?
On 01/04/2008, Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi friends,
I have a couple of palettes and toplevel stacks open here.
Now when I select some text in a field of a non palette stack
and click on a button/list field
Hi David,
Is there a closefield handler in the message path doing something?
no.
Regards
Klaus Major
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I have a couple of palettes and toplevel stacks open here.
Now when I select some text in a field of a non palette stack
and click on a button/list field in a palette, the selection disappers,
so the selectedchunk is empty in that case.
Too bad if you are working on a text
Hi Richard,
Klaus Major wrote:
I have a couple of palettes and toplevel stacks open here.
Now when I select some text in a field of a non palette stack
and click on a button/list field in a palette, the selection
disappers,
so the selectedchunk is empty in that case.
Too bad if you
Klaus Major wrote:
I have a couple of palettes and toplevel stacks open here.
Now when I select some text in a field of a non palette stack
and click on a button/list field in a palette, the selection disappers,
so the selectedchunk is empty in that case.
Too bad if you are working on a text
Klaus Major wrote:
Klaus Major wrote:
I have a couple of palettes and toplevel stacks open here.
Now when I select some text in a field of a non palette stack
and click on a button/list field in a palette, the selection
disappers,
so the selectedchunk is empty in that case.
Too bad if you
Hi Richard,
Klaus Major wrote:
Klaus Major wrote:
I have a couple of palettes and toplevel stacks open here.
Now when I select some text in a field of a non palette stack
and click on a button/list field in a palette, the selection
disappers,
so the selectedchunk is empty in that case
I am trying to get a stack to load as a Palette rather
than a Stack:
tried this;
on preOpenStack
palette stack XXX
end preOpenStack
and
on openStack
palette stack XXX
end openStack
neither worked,
obviously getting something wrong!
sincerely, Richmond Mathewson
Richmond,
Do you have these handlers in the palette stack itself? Although that
should be possible, it is causes an ugly flash on the screen. The use
of the palette command is correct, though. So, if you have a button to
open the stack, you would write:
on mouseUp
palette stack XXX
end
Mark Schonewille wrote:
on mouseUp
palette stack XXX
end mouseUp
If you are using Media, it might not work. If it
doesn't, use
go stack XXX as palette
Neither of which worked with either my stack under
DreamCard 2.6.1
or RR 2.9 most recent Beta!!!
This is very odd as I want my stack
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