Hi Marielle,
That particular site does indeed allow both style sheet control and an
easy download of all the page material in one shot.
However, the package for allowing one to have one's own domain name
costs $50 per month!
So, if we want out own domain name - that would not be the site.
_
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Subject: RE: docWikis
Jonathan,
Congrats for your website. Nice addition to the family. Feel free to
step on my toes... you are welcome to dance on them if you fancy :-).
You insisted that you did it to check out how difficult it would be.
Point taken.
But the point
Jonathan,
Congrats for your website. Nice addition to the family. Feel free to
step on my toes... you are welcome to dance on them if you fancy :-).
You insisted that you did it to check out how difficult it would be.
Point taken.
But the point made by Tim is an important one. You will ha
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Lange
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Subject: Re: docWikis
Hi Jonathan
What is your site for the revdoc wiki again?
My site is not for revdoc... it contains snippets and code examples.
http
Marielle
Lange
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 5:39 PM
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Subject: Re: docWikis
Hi Jonathan
> What is your site for the revdoc wiki again?
My site is not for revdoc... it contains snippets and code examples.
http://revolution.lexicall.org/wiki/tiki-index.php?p
Could an expert scripter create a template rev stack that would wikify
all the existing revdocs in one fell swoop and send them to their
appropriate places in the wiki/web structure (however that works for
wikis, no idea here). Just a question. I'm sure it's not easy or
someone would have
Hi Jonathan
What is your site for the revdoc wiki again?
My site is not for revdoc... it contains snippets and code examples.
http://revolution.lexicall.org/wiki/tiki-index.php?page=StandardsSMIL
(for the page on SMIL standards, to be in context... though this page
is quite empty for now)
Timothy Miller wrote:
I think your best strategy would be to convince potential
participants that their contributions will get recycled into other
revDocWikis if yours does not grow and thrive. Accordingly, no
contribution will ever be wasted.
I'm coming in late, so forgive me is this has alr
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Jonathan
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 11:09 AM
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Subject: RE: docWikis
I really like the wiki idea...
Webnotes seems great on the surface... But having the docs in a wiki
means we get
On 25 Oct 2005, at 03:26, Troy Rollins wrote:
On Oct 24, 2005, at 9:16 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote:
Why not use the user comment feature built into the Rev docs?
I was wondering the same... wouldn't it be best to put them right
where people are already looking?
Sure - but they are "user do
Alex-
Tuesday, October 25, 2005, 7:44:04 AM, you wrote:
> Maybe this is why a Wiki *might* work while Web Notes (based on the last
> 9 months experience or so since they were introduced) demonstrably don't
> work.
I notice that the Web Notes I have uploaded have just disappeared into
the void. I
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Tweedly
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Subject: Re: docWikis
Lynch, Jonathan wrote:
>I just checked the webnotes for allowFieldRedraw, and they said
"hkhfkj"
>
>
Lynch, Jonathan wrote:
I just checked the webnotes for allowFieldRedraw, and they said "hkhfkj"
Maybe the webnotes system isn't working yet?
More likely is that I'm just not good at exploiting apparent weaknesses :-)
Maybe the Web Notes special case the situation where the uploaded note
olution
Subject: Re: docWikis
Troy Rollins wrote:
>
> On Oct 25, 2005, at 1:37 AM, Chipp Walters wrote:
>
>> I seem to remember a bug in it where it would only save the last
>> comments?
>
>
> Well, that would put a damper on things. Would be nice to see that
> fi
I think your best strategy would be to convince potential
participants that their contributions will get recycled into other
revDocWikis if yours does not grow and thrive. Accordingly, no
contribution will ever be wasted.
I'm coming in late, so forgive me is this has already been answered
Hi Tim,
I found your comments really excellent. Thanks for them.
So the first thing we should be doing is to create standards for the
representation of code and snippets to guarantee interoperability,
ease of update, and exchange. I proposed Hugh (the author of the
scripter's scrapbook ) t
Troy Rollins wrote:
On Oct 25, 2005, at 1:37 AM, Chipp Walters wrote:
I seem to remember a bug in it where it would only save the last
comments?
Well, that would put a damper on things. Would be nice to see that
fixed, because it is probably the best way to have a system with
longevity t
Chipp Walters wrote:
Why not use the user comment feature built into the Rev docs?
>>>
>> I was wondering the same... wouldn't it be best to put them
>> right where people are already looking?
>
> I seem to remember a bug in it where it would only save the
> last comments?
Could be, but it
On Oct 25, 2005, at 1:37 AM, Chipp Walters wrote:
I seem to remember a bug in it where it would only save the last
comments?
Well, that would put a damper on things. Would be nice to see that
fixed, because it is probably the best way to have a system with
longevity that both RR and the use
I seem to remember a bug in it where it would only save the last comments?
-Chipp
Why not use the user comment feature built into the Rev docs?
I was wondering the same... wouldn't it be best to put them right where
people are already looking?
__
I suppose the obvious answer is that some of us are extremely dumb and not
looking... 'cuz we're not knowing (agnostic??)
@;-)
Okay, so I only speak for myself... and my other self... and any other
voices hanging about...
Judy
On Mon, 24 Oct 2005, Troy Rollins wrote:
>
> On Oct 24, 2005, at
Marielle,
What I would look for (in addition to Timothy's reply) is an easy way
to navigate to information based on general to specific structure.
Sort of like discovering what you want by 20 questions game.
Searching for information requires that you know what to call
something. Howev
On Oct 24, 2005, at 9:16 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote:
Why not use the user comment feature built into the Rev docs?
I was wondering the same... wouldn't it be best to put them right where
people are already looking?
--
Troy
RPSystems, Ltd.
http://www.rpsystems.net
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Timothy Miller wrote:
I think your best strategy would be to convince potential participants
that their contributions will get recycled into other revDocWikis if
yours does not grow and thrive. Accordingly, no contribution will ever
be wasted.
I'm coming in late, so forgive me is this has alr
Hi Marielle,
I appreciate all your thoughtful comments. I am completely sympathetic.
--very big snip--
You asked:
I am very curious... What would be needed to get more of you
register and contribute?
My reply is sort of selfish, I fear. It would take -- uhhh --
"critical mass" or "momen
Hi Tim,
I am certainly sympathetic to your goals and philosophical
position. Rev users generally seem sympathetic to the manufacturer
-- wish it well, want it to succeed. Me too.
It's their product I want to live long and prosper, really ;). If the
cheap option, dreamcard, could be acquir
On 19 Oct 2005, at 03:04, Timothy Miller wrote:
If Rev's native documentation can't be moved wholesale to a wiki,
with its hyperlinks, "see also" links, and so on, intact, for the
sake of wiki-type improving and supplementing, I fear too many
potential wiki users will be too daunted, and i
Hi Marielle,
I visited your site, and bookmarked it. I am certainly sympathetic to
your goals and philosophical position. Rev users generally seem
sympathetic to the manufacturer -- wish it well, want it to succeed.
Me too.
My initial reaction -- what's there is admirable. The documentation
Hi David,
I've spent 5 months building a framework in RunRev that avoids a
lot of the problems and makes it really fast to develop new objects
and make them reusable.
Possible to know more about this? It seems that many persons on this
list have done the same.
Again we are back to th
I know whatcha mean, Jim.
OTOH, the newsgroups and help boards and email lists, like this one,
are never-ending sources of free tech support, given generously.
(It's called "peer support" though the people who assist me almost
always know a great deal more than I do. Not peers, really.) You
a
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Bovill
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 6:43 AM
To: How to use Revolution
Subject: Re: docWikis
Hmmm... not going to convince you then :)
If you have seen the progress of wikipedia over the last 2 and a bit
years from unfunded nothing to one of the worlds mos
Hmmm... not going to convince you then :)
If you have seen the progress of wikipedia over the last 2 and a bit
years from unfunded nothing to one of the worlds most valuable
multilingual encyclopaedias based on idiotically simple technology
that could have been built in revolution in a mont
As a new Rev. user, I get a LOT from reading this list! But you know
what, I'm not sure that it's worth my time, at least the way that I am
doing it now. I need to find a more efficient way to manage this list.
Transforming this list into a docwiki seems like it has merit.
I ambiguous about th
Marielle Lange wrote:
clip
Exactly! ... but you also have to take into account economical factors.
For us, users, what counts is free access to quality information,
frequently updated.
But the ones who are likely to make a quality contribution to this
documentation are experts (see this
In our little corner of the programming universe, I think that most
anyone
only has time to skim, collect some valuable tidbits, contribute
answers as
time and mood permit, then go on with our lives.
If I decided to follow this path and contribute, my wife would kill
me.
That's a very impo
The examples go on forever. Why should the same weary volunteer
experts -- on newsgroups and help boards -- answer the same 200 or
300 questions over and over and over again? For such questions, all
that is needed would be a link to the right page on the wiki or the
right page in the onboar
Of course, who decides what qualifies as good/excellent content.. Expert
level, moderate, beginner, one example, two, five, .. fastest algorithm,
easiest to write.. how to put pieces together to solve scenarios.. catalog
the exceptions and bugs.. even to build a rudimentary decision tree for
some
It suddenly occurs to me that the docWiki issue goes far beyond
Revolution, though it's possible that Rev could be the first software
company to take full advantage of the opportunity. As others have
mentioned, Rev is a great platform for a comprehensive and
frequently-upgradeable help system.
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