Chipp, not saying you are wrong, but how would you know? That's the thing
that got me, and why I think Alejandro's thought of taking Windows offline
is quite sensible. The problem with windows getting compromised is I am not
sure you necessarily know when its happened. Most studies on anti
Peter,
AVG does regular scans of my drives. Furthermore, I every now and then
do spyware checks and I do a lot of high end rendering, which needs
about 99% of my processor, so I'm fairly familiar with the services
and apps I run. I have a network monitor gauge on my desktop which
let's me know
Hello All,
While i develop all my stuff under OSX and deploy mainly on Linux or OSX, i
have to deploy some kind of AI 24/7 calculation solutions under Win7 because,
as anyone knows, the most usefull feature of win is that it runs twice faster
as POSIX systems (no ixinetd,... services
Peter, with all due respect, in every case except the most recent, the hacks
involved convincing a user to click here on this button, enter your admin user
name and password and click OK. Don't worry we are only trying to help.
I don't deny that there have been vulnerabilities related to
Hah! I made the same mistake, but caught myself mid-reply. :-)
Bob
On Oct 31, 2010, at 1:07 PM, roger.e.el...@sealedair.com wrote:
Roger.E.Eller wrote:
It is in many cases the virus makers themselves who infect Windows,
and then use FAKE anti-virus messages that offer to cleanse your
Let me weigh in one more time, for those who think that setting up a machine
with all the security measures you can, but without using some kind of
anti-virus/anti-spyware solution is safe enough.
Recently, our radio station web site was hacked via a simple php exploit. The
people who we
Hi Chipp,
Chipp Walters wrote:
AVG does regular scans of my drives.
[snip]
And seeing how I make my living on my Windows machine,
and have since around 1994 (before that it was a Mac),
I would find it very debilitating to have to take it off the
network because I was scared of malware.
Alejandro,
Steve Gibson is a well known security consult who makes his living dealing
in cyber security-- and he lives right here in Austin, TX. I've known him
for a long time, and he's very respected in the industry, as is Leo Laporte.
Steve's extremely detail oriented to the point of compulsion
I listen to Leo on the radio every Saturday. I really respect his knowledge and
expertise, as I am an IT guy, and can verify that what he says is almost always
spot on.
However, a lot of what is discussed in these podcasts are what COULD be done,
not what is ACTUALLY HAPPENING on a regular
I don't know if its safer than current versions of Windows 7 intelligently
used. It certainly is a lot safer than earlier versions of XP, used as they
came out of the box.
One reason is that desktop linux is a small population and so not being
targeted.
A second is when you do an install, it
Peter Alcibiades wrote:
I don't know if its safer than current versions of Windows 7 intelligently
used. It certainly is a lot safer than earlier versions of XP, used as they
came out of the box.
Even as Dell gets bribed by MS to put those silly We recommend Windows
7 graphics on their
Every time I have installed a variant of Windows on a machine that is
connected to the
Internet, sooner rather than later, things have gone 'queer'.
Therefore, as I have to have a Windows box for software testing, I have
a machine that is NEVER connected
to the internet, and the ONLY files I
Coo!
Memo From Dell: Ubuntu Linux Is Safer Than Windows
http://www.thevarguy.com/2010/06/10/memo-from-dell-ubuntu-linux-is-safer-than-windows/
I wonder how long that will be there before the chaps in dark glasses pop
round to DELL for a friendly chat?
It really never ceases to amaze me
Yes, the interesting question, don't know the answer, is if you set up
windows in the same way Linux is normally set up, limited user accounts and
so on, how much more vulnerable would it be? Those hack fests they have
every so often suggest that OSX is a dead duck almost right away, Windows
not
Peter, where do you get these 'facts' about the security and vulnerability
of MacOS today? Your statement just doesn't match up with my experience with
the OS.
Dead Duck?
On 31 October 2010 02:22, Peter Alcibiades palcibiades-fi...@yahoo.co.ukwrote:
OSX is a dead duck almost right away,
On 10/31/10 4:22 AM, Peter Alcibiades wrote:
Those hack fests they have
every so often suggest that OSX is a dead duck almost right away, Windows
not long after, and Linux holds out longest.
Is that true? I'd always heard that OS X ranks about even with Linux
because it's core is *nix.
--
It's probably about a yearly hacking contest, where boxes are setup and then
people are invited to hack them. Mac OS X did indeed succumb most quickly there
in the last few years. In addition there has been reports of one infection in
the wild that uses java, and is able to run on mac os as
On 10/31/2010 07:57 PM, stephen barncard wrote:
Peter, where do you get these 'facts' about the security and vulnerability
of MacOS today? Your statement just doesn't match up with my experience with
the OS.
Dead Duck?
Well Idon't know; my ducks have been alive and quacking for years with
On 10/31/2010 08:12 PM, Björnke von Gierke wrote:
It's probably about a yearly hacking contest, where boxes are setup and then
people are invited to hack them. Mac OS X did indeed succumb most quickly there
in the last few years. In addition there has been reports of one infection in
the wild
Yes, it was the annual hackfests. I only know two people with OSX, and
neither one has been compromised. Whether the Unix underpinnings make OSX
more secure? I think the hacks, but maybe others recall better, were due to
applications and privilege escalation.
I am really not sure what to
Le 31 oct. 2010 à 19:00, J. Landman Gay a écrit :
On 10/31/10 4:22 AM, Peter Alcibiades wrote:
Those hack fests they have
every so often suggest that OSX is a dead duck almost right away, Windows
not long after, and Linux holds out longest.
Is that true? I'd always heard that OS X ranks
Richmond wrote:
The first thing I do when I install Mac OS X on a machine is enable the
ROOT account; that is dead easy;
especially as the Mac OS HELP system tells you how to do it. Set up the
FIREWALL, SHARING and so on.
Windows, on the other hand, starts telling you to fork out extra
Roger.E.Eller wrote:
It is in many cases the virus makers themselves who infect Windows,
and then use FAKE anti-virus messages that offer to cleanse your
machine for a fee.
URL?
I'm sometimes prone to notions that seem conspiratorial myself, but
while this meme has been floating around for
Roger.E.Eller wrote:
It is in many cases the virus makers themselves who infect Windows,
and then use FAKE anti-virus messages that offer to cleanse your
machine for a fee.
Richard Gaskin replied:
URL?
I'm sometimes prone to notions that seem conspiratorial myself, but
while this meme
Recently, Richard Gaskin wrote:
It is in many cases the virus makers themselves who infect Windows,
and then use FAKE anti-virus messages that offer to cleanse your
machine for a fee.
URL?
I'm sometimes prone to notions that seem conspiratorial myself, but
while this meme has been
Guess I should clarify, it's not put out by an antivirus company, it is
software that's been rewritten to rip off people whose machines it infects.
Recently, I wrote:
Recently, Richard Gaskin wrote:
It is in many cases the virus makers themselves who infect Windows,
and then use FAKE
On 10/31/2010 09:34 PM, roger.e.el...@sealedair.com wrote:
Richmond wrote:
The first thing I do when I install Mac OS X on a machine is enable the
ROOT account; that is dead easy;
especially as the Mac OS HELP system tells you how to do it. Set up the
FIREWALL, SHARING and so on.
Windows, on
Microsoft security essentials is the target of another spoof alert
attack, though I'm sure you got the real microsoft security essentials
from the microsoft site, I've had to fix this one for a friend,
recently in fact.
Sounds like you have users with unsafe browsing habits, who end up
falling for many of the social attacks out there. I have the same
problem in my household, but I've cured all but my Dad, who insists on
downloading and installing every exe he runs across which claims to
make his system run
Alejandro , When did you last hear about a Mac virus?
I don't like to boast, but..
I practice safe computing and a good router and don't use any anti-virus
software at all on any of my 4 macs. Haven't had a virus problem since 2002.
All running Leopard. Am I being foolish?
I find the need for
If you're only wanting to browse, and are not sure a particular site
can be trusted, you might try using a live linux cd and browse from
there. Might not hurt to unmount your hard drive partition if you do
this just as an added layer of protection. Some live cd's auto mount
what they can find,
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