Re: Rev 2.7.4 standalone versions

2006-10-03 Thread Thierry Arbellot
I have tested an universal app made with Rev on an old iMac G3 with 10.2.8 and it does work. Thierry On 2006, Oct 3, at 05:56, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perhaps someone can clarify whether the Universal Binary version of Rev standalones will work on all versions of OS X or only on OS 10.3.9

Re: Rev 2.7.4 standalone versions

2006-10-03 Thread Robert Brenstein
Precisely why marketers would have a keen interest in quantifying this. It would be invaluable to know the percentages of those likely to buy products for OS X and those who haven't bought a new computer in more than half a decade. If the number of people using OS 9 is anything close to as

Re: Rev 2.7.4 standalone versions

2006-10-03 Thread Luis
What else are you going to run the 'Journeyman Project' on? Cheers, Luis. On 3 Oct 2006, at 20:10, Robert Brenstein wrote: Precisely why marketers would have a keen interest in quantifying this. It would be invaluable to know the percentages of those likely to buy products for OS X and

UB sizes (was: Rev 2.7.4 standalone versions)

2006-10-02 Thread Ian Wood
On 1 Oct 2006, at 15:52, Malte Brill wrote: One reason might be filesize. Universal apps are twice as big. Some thought and tests show that that's simply not true... ;-) I've seen this idea floating around plenty of times on Mac forums, but was a bit surprised to see it mentioned on a

Re: UB sizes (was: Rev 2.7.4 standalone versions)

2006-10-02 Thread Ken Ray
On 10/2/06 4:16 AM, Ian Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 1 Oct 2006, at 15:52, Malte Brill wrote: One reason might be filesize. Universal apps are twice as big. Some thought and tests show that that's simply not true... ;-) Actually I think what Malte was trying to say is that Universal

Re: UB sizes (was: Rev 2.7.4 standalone versions)

2006-10-02 Thread Richard Gaskin
Ken Ray wrote: On 10/2/06 4:16 AM, Ian Wood revlist at azurevision.co.uk wrote: On 1 Oct 2006, at 15:52, Malte Brill wrote: One reason might be filesize. Universal apps are twice as big. Some thought and tests show that that's simply not true... ;-) Actually I think what Malte was trying

Re: Rev 2.7.4 standalone versions

2006-10-02 Thread Peter T. Evensen
I don't see that anyone has pointed out the fact that a Universal Binary IS a PowerPC version and an Intel version merged together (so your option c IS a UB). I believe Universal Binaries will run on version of OS X prior to 3.9. It will just use the PowerPC verson. The whole point of a UB

Re: UB sizes (was: Rev 2.7.4 standalone versions)

2006-10-02 Thread Ian Wood
On 2 Oct 2006, at 15:06, Ken Ray wrote: On 10/2/06 4:16 AM, Ian Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 1 Oct 2006, at 15:52, Malte Brill wrote: One reason might be filesize. Universal apps are twice as big. Some thought and tests show that that's simply not true... ;-) Actually I think what

Re: Re: UB sizes (was: Rev 2.7.4 standalone versions)

2006-10-02 Thread Malte Brill
Apologies if that was the case! I've just seen too many people saying that UB apps are twice as big and assumed it was the same this time... No need to apologize Ian, I should have worded it clearer. Ken is right though. I meant to say it carries 2 engines. I am glad you cleared this up.:-)

Rev 2.7.4 standalone versions

2006-10-02 Thread Stgoldberg
Perhaps someone can clarify whether the Universal Binary version of Rev standalones will work on all versions of OS X or only on OS 10.3.9 and above. There seems to be a difference of opinion in the forum. If Universal Binary will work on all versions of OS X, then Universal Binary would

Rev 2.7.4 standalone versions

2006-10-01 Thread Stgoldberg
Regarding which of the standalone versions to include in distributing one's built applications, please correct me if my logic is wrong here: a. I assume that very few Mac users have operating systems that are earlier than OS X, so one does not have to be so concerned about distributing for OS 9

Re: Rev 2.7.4 standalone versions

2006-10-01 Thread Ken Ray
On 10/1/06 3:10 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Regarding which of the standalone versions to include in distributing one's built applications, please correct me if my logic is wrong here: a. I assume that very few Mac users have operating systems that are earlier than OS X, so

Re: Rev 2.7.4 standalone versions

2006-10-01 Thread Mark Schonewille
Steve, I still know very many people, schools, firms etc. who still haven't spend the resources on replacing their ancient hardware, their philosophy being, if it aint broke, don't fix it (plus the fact that especially schools are on a tight budget). If you can release software for Mac

Re: Rev 2.7.4 standalone versions

2006-10-01 Thread Richard Gaskin
Mark Schonewille wrote: I still know very many people, schools, firms etc. who still haven't spend the resources on replacing their ancient hardware, their philosophy being, if it aint broke, don't fix it (plus the fact that especially schools are on a tight budget). Does Apple or any

Re: Rev 2.7.4 standalone versions

2006-10-01 Thread Mark Schonewille
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Re: Rev 2.7.4 standalone versions

2006-10-01 Thread Sarah Reichelt
On 10/2/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Regarding which of the standalone versions to include in distributing one's built applications, please correct me if my logic is wrong here: a. I assume that very few Mac users have operating systems that are earlier than OS X, so one does

Re: Rev 2.7.4 standalone versions

2006-10-01 Thread Richard Gaskin
Mark Schonewille wrote: Mark Schonewille wrote: I still know very many people, schools, firms etc. who still haven't spend the resources on replacing their ancient hardware... Does Apple or any authoritative EDU body publish market stats quantifying this? It would be help ROI projections

Re: Rev 2.7.4 standalone versions

2006-10-01 Thread Mark Swindell
In my classroom I have 6 machines. Systems: 8 (1 machine), 9 (3 machines), 10.3 (Emac) and 10.4 (iBook). All are on our LAN. Both the latter machines access Classic mode from time to time. Schools still run OS 9 in many cases. Quantifiable stats I don't have, but I know it's true.

Re: Rev 2.7.4 standalone versions

2006-10-01 Thread Andre Garzia
System 8 :-O this is like seeing BeOS BeBox or Acord Risc Pcs... last time I used system 8 (and it was 8.5) was in my old university where we had some old macs for DTP classes... by the way, shouldn't the release of runrev engine for classic be near? Andre On Oct 1, 2006, at 9:41

Re: Rev 2.7.4 standalone versions

2006-10-01 Thread Marian Petrides
Andre wrote: by the way, shouldn't the release of runrev engine for classic be near? I certainly hope so! Been looking out for it... Marian ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe,

Re: Rev 2.7.4 standalone versions

2006-10-01 Thread Mark Swindell
Yeah, I know. Pretty funny. I think it's 8.5 and the 9's are 9.2, but I can't remember off the top of my head. The amazing thing is that the thing keeps chugging along, and for a terminal it still functions... slwwwly. No one is doing any work on it. Mark On Oct 1, 2006, at 6:13