practical grunt

2005-08-06 Thread MisterX
Hi everyone saturday morning, first thing you do is naturally to dig in and enhance your scripting garden, clean the taoo scripting kitchen and hook some new databasing shelves on the walls a little bit! I love those endless streches of time in the weekend whence i can engage in a quiet

Scrollbar anomaly with lockscreen

2005-08-06 Thread Wilhelm Sanke
If a scrollbar value is changed when lockscreen is set, two thumbs appear instead of one, meaning that lockscreen is only partly effective here. After the handler has finished, only the changed thumb remains - as would be expected. See screenshot at

blend on Windows -- no go for graphics?

2005-08-06 Thread Richard Gaskin
While the docs claim that the blend ink effect is available on Windows, in practice I can only use it with images, but not with graphic objects. Am I missing something? If there's some trick to getting blend to work as documented on Windows I'd be forever grateful... -- Richard Gaskin

Re: blend on Windows -- no go for graphics?

2005-08-06 Thread Chipp Walters
Hi Richard, Check out the srcOr ink effect. Depending on the grayscale of the graphic will create the effective transparency, with a graphic of pure black being 100% transparent, and white being pure opaque. I don't think there's an equivalent of just 'blend' -Chipp Richard Gaskin wrote:

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2005-08-06 Thread Muaadh Salih
Our problem is as follows: We have two Unicode fields set for Arabic or Hebrew (that is from right to left system) .we put ,let's say four words into feild 1 (manually) then locked both fields. we scripted field 1 with something like on mouseUp put the clicktext into myword put myword after

selection case

2005-08-06 Thread Muaadh Salih
Our problem is as follows: We have two Unicode fields set for Arabic or Hebrew (that is from right to left system) .we put ,let's say four words into feild 1 (manually) then locked both fields. we scripted field 1 with something like on mouseUp put the clicktext into myword put myword after

SCRIPTS IN GROUPS

2005-08-06 Thread Bill
How come if you have a script in a group, and that group is the same size as a button, the mouse-up handler in the group responds when you click anywhere in the card and not just directly over the group? ___ use-revolution mailing list

Re: SCRIPTS IN GROUPS

2005-08-06 Thread Klaus Major
Hi Bill, How come if you have a script in a group, and that group is the same size as a button, the mouse-up handler in the group responds when you click anywhere in the card and not just directly over the group? if the backgroundbehavior of that group = true, then this is the correct

Re: SCRIPTS IN GROUPS

2005-08-06 Thread Bill
Thanks. It sure helps. I feel like a loser, sort of, but more and more I am avoiding groups because they confuse me. I should have realized what setting the background behavior to true would do. I have to think of a group as always taking up the whole area of the card and not just the bounded area

Re: SCRIPTS IN GROUPS

2005-08-06 Thread Jon
Is it really true that a Group that is not in the Background takes up (i.e., accepts mouse events from) the whole card?!? :) Jon Bill wrote: Thanks. It sure helps. I feel like a loser, sort of, but more and more I am avoiding groups because they confuse me. I should have realized what

Re: SCRIPTS IN GROUPS

2005-08-06 Thread Bill
It might not be true because I am looking again at that and I think I have one group inside another. The larger group holding an image so I can scroll it. But that one doesn't have the background set to true. On 8/6/05 9:02 AM, Jon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it really true that a Group that

Re: SCRIPTS IN GROUPS

2005-08-06 Thread Bill
I just looked at it again and the group with the script that responds to the mouseup is not inside another group. It is the only group on the card and it is very small and scripts in it respond to a mouse-up when you click anywhere in the card and well outside the group. It's background behavior

RunRev solution to selection problems

2005-08-06 Thread Muaadh Salih
Now I have a solution from runrev (who are extremely helpful): --- However, one workaround would be to have each word be an individual textrun and reversing the order of words so that the order is correct. word1 word2 word3 word4 - internal (4 text runs) word4

File location using go shell (startc:\..)

2005-08-06 Thread scott Yang
I have been using the go shell command to open up distant files deep in the Windows filing architecture, but having problems getting past the folder program files Seems I can't get past a folder with two words, eg. Program Files go shell (start c:/program_files/appz_folder/mainframe.exe)

Re: blend on Windows -- no go for graphics?

2005-08-06 Thread Richard Gaskin
Chipp Walters wrote: Richard Gaskin wrote: While the docs claim that the blend ink effect is available on Windows, in practice I can only use it with images, but not with graphic objects. Am I missing something? If there's some trick to getting blend to work as documented on Windows I'd

Re: SCRIPTS IN GROUPS

2005-08-06 Thread Richard Gaskin
Bill wrote: I just looked at it again and the group with the script that responds to the mouseup is not inside another group. It is the only group on the card and it is very small and scripts in it respond to a mouse-up when you click anywhere in the card and well outside the group. It's

Re: File location using go shell (startc:\..)

2005-08-06 Thread Klaus Major
Hi Scott, I have been using the go shell command to open up distant files deep in the Windows filing architecture, but having problems getting past the folder program files Seems I can't get past a folder with two words, eg. Program Files go shell (start

Re: SCRIPTS IN GROUPS

2005-08-06 Thread Dan Shafer
While I'm not sure this can be characterized as a bug, I'd call it a surprising feature. And it has a particularly intriguing problem if you have multiple background groups. In that case, the background groups live in layers, of course, each of which is the effective size of the card. So

Re: SCRIPTS IN GROUPS

2005-08-06 Thread James Spencer
On Aug 6, 2005, at 11:56 AM, Dan Shafer wrote: While I'm not sure this can be characterized as a bug, I'd call it a surprising feature. And it has a particularly intriguing problem if you have multiple background groups. In that case, the background groups live in layers, of course, each

Re: SCRIPTS IN GROUPS

2005-08-06 Thread Bill
The only thing confusing about it is that the user interface makes it so you can see the shape of your background group (and I have it set to background so the objects in it will duplicate each time I make a new card so I can't turn that off). So I guess when you set a group to background maybe

Re: File location using go shell (startc:\..)

2005-08-06 Thread Jon
You shouldn't need a start before an EXE in Windows. If you specify an EXE file name, Windows just runs the program. Start is for when all you know is a document name, and you want Windows to go find the associated EXE for you. I've never seen anyone successfully use an underscore to

Re: File location using go shell (startc:\..)

2005-08-06 Thread Alex Tweedly
scott Yang wrote: I have been using the go shell command to open up distant files deep in the Windows filing architecture, but having problems getting past the folder program files Seems I can't get past a folder with two words, eg. Program Files go shell (start

Re: SCRIPTS IN GROUPS

2005-08-06 Thread J. Landman Gay
Bill wrote: The only thing confusing about it is that the user interface makes it so you can see the shape of your background group (and I have it set to background so the objects in it will duplicate each time I make a new card so I can't turn that off). So I guess when you set a group to

European Revolution Conference Reminder

2005-08-06 Thread Mark Schonewille
Dear Revolution users, A week ago, I posted a message about plans to organise a revolution conference. Several of you have written me off-list, expressing their interest. Two people, who will be contacted within a few days, have offered to be a speaker. To know that organising a conference

ChatRev UP

2005-08-06 Thread Mark Schonewille
Hi, Several people told me to believe that ChatRev is still down. Two weeks ago, ChatRev was down for two days, because Björnke was moving the server to a different place. The ChatRev server is up and running now and you are welcome to join us. For more information, have a look at

Re: SCRIPTS IN GROUPS

2005-08-06 Thread Dan Shafer
James When I say it's a surprising feature, I have my Revolutionary hat on. As a HC user, of course, I'd expect this, but in HC: (a) a background occupies an entire card; and (b) you can only have one. So when I learned that one could have more than one bg group in Rev, I *assumed*

Re: blend on Windows -- no go for graphics?

2005-08-06 Thread FlexibleLearning
Richard: As an interim solution, have you tried setting the blend of a backgroundPattern image? I've found this works quite well (lock screen is needed to force redraw) though direct grc blend support would be welcome longer term. /H ___

Re: blend on Windows -- no go for graphics?

2005-08-06 Thread Richard Gaskin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Richard: As an interim solution, have you tried setting the blend of a backgroundPattern image? I've found this works quite well (lock screen is needed to force redraw) though direct grc blend support would be welcome longer term. That would be great for a

Re: blend on Windows -- no go for graphics?

2005-08-06 Thread TJ Frame
Thanks for adding that feature request Richard - I too would really like to see enhanced vector features including Wndows bend support. It would be extremly useful for the projects I'm working on. - TJ On 8/6/05, Richard Gaskin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: SCRIPTS IN GROUPS

2005-08-06 Thread Charles Hartman
In my very patchy experience, what's surprising and confusing -- whether you used HyperCard or not, though in different ways -- is the overlap / non-overlap between groups and backgrounds. Obviously they have a lot in common (since a Rev background _is_ a group, though one with a

OT: Mysterious line break and space

2005-08-06 Thread Sivakatirswami
I use a Revolution app that I built to generate our daily Hindu Press International News service (recently added RSS feed with Andre's help) It's pretty basic: the managing editor actually uses it: pastes some daily stories into a field, the app then builds and uploads some web pages

a few geometry questions...

2005-08-06 Thread TJ Frame
Hi everyone, 1) If I have the points A and B, how would I determine point C that lies along the slope but is X units in length from the origin (which will always be point A) I can find the total distance between A and B or the midpoint using the distance and midpoint formulas, but I'm not

Re: a few geometry questions...

2005-08-06 Thread James Spencer
On Aug 6, 2005, at 8:53 PM, TJ Frame wrote: Hi everyone, 1) If I have the points A and B, how would I determine point C that lies along the slope but is X units in length from the origin (which will always be point A) I can find the total distance between A and B or the midpoint using

Re: selection case

2005-08-06 Thread Ken Ray
On 8/6/05 5:05 AM, Muaadh Salih [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When we clicked the first word of field 1 we got the last word that has been placed into field 2, Clicked at the 2nd to have the penultimate word... It appears that when Rev shows text as right to left text it still thinks,sees from

Re: a few geometry questions...

2005-08-06 Thread TJ Frame
James, Thanks for your help. The code did not work for me as is. Namely point C was reflected negatively, so I fixed that by using -X, then I had to subtract Cx and Cy from A's location in order to offset C correctly. But after that it worked perfectly! Thanks again for your quick response.

Re: me vs. this?

2005-08-06 Thread Jeanne A. E. DeVoto
At 11:20 AM -0400 8/5/2005, Charles Hartman wrote: Well, I don't know. Now that it's pointed out to me, I see in the Doc under 'this' only mentions of 'this card' and 'this stack' . . . It seems a little counterintuitive, though, doesn't it? to have an apparent plain English command with what

Re: OT: Mysterious line break and space

2005-08-06 Thread Pierre Sahores
Hello katir, Did you test to output the same process from a Linux desktop box. In my experience it should work better than from the Mac OS X one. I suspect (and experimented without finding any definitive workaround) an issue with the length of the messages the shell can send under the