Re: linebreak in text

2005-04-29 Thread Varen Swaab
Thanks Phil, that worked perfectly. Var On 4/27/05 5:06 PM, Phil Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Varen Swaab wrote: Hi everybody, I know this is probably a really simple matter but I'm trying to take this line of code: put session_nameon datesession_date into fld message and

Re: Problem with convert it to seconds

2005-04-29 Thread jbv
Paul, My remark was a kind of understatement... Of course I DO agree... JB JB You kind of agree ? This is an undocumented, non-intuitive way of handling dates and times which will break seconds and dateItem scripts created by non-suspecting users twice a year. How can the Rev. team justify

Re: Problem with convert it to seconds

2005-04-29 Thread Richard Gaskin
I have a further problem with the seconds which I will describe in case anyone else finds it a problem. It reports the number of seconds since midnight on 1/1/1970 GMT. The fact that it is GMT is crucial as it means that the number returned by the seconds is not an absolute date time but

Re: Problem with convert it to seconds

2005-04-29 Thread jbv
Richard, You will get a varying date time depending on your local time zone and current daylight savings setting. While the old HyperCard method failed to take DST into account when needed, when not needed the Rev method fails. I'll toss in my votes for a way to let the developer

Re: A Philosophical Point

2005-04-29 Thread Jim Carwardine
I don't need to know this, John. How is RunRev to stay in business if they don't charge for their product? You of all people should know how much overhead is required to produce bug-free code. RunRev could not sustain itself unless it turned open source and that's not the business model they

Richmond repays a Philosophical Debt

2005-04-29 Thread Mathewson
Dear Runtime Revolution Afficionados, Sarah - You Got Me There! My website now sports a BIG PURPLE BUTTON which leads to the source code for my Master's Thesis - weighing in at 17MB in its zipped form. Go Get It! Love, Richmond __ See

Richmond has uploaded 50+ RR widgets

2005-04-29 Thread Mathewson
Dear Runtime Revolution Afficionados, I dug around in my hard-drives and uploaded about 50 bits of fluff - ranging from a Bulgarian Text Analyzer to a silly program that flashes colours. Do with them what you want. Love, Richmond __ See

Re: Making Revolution faster with really big arrays

2005-04-29 Thread Wouter
On 28 Apr 2005, at 17:59, Dennis Brown wrote: Frank, This is a simplified algorithm that I think would best translate directly between Transcript and PostgreSQL for a time trial. Just make sure the PostgreSQL code is an item by item algorithm also. Thanks, Dennis Transcript output on my

Re: Making Revolution faster with really big arrays

2005-04-29 Thread Wouter
On 28 Apr 2005, at 17:59, Dennis Brown wrote: Frank, This is a simplified algorithm that I think would best translate directly between Transcript and PostgreSQL for a time trial. Just make sure the PostgreSQL code is an item by item algorithm also. Thanks, Dennis Transcript output on my

Re: Unicode Displaying in Runtime Revolution #2

2005-04-29 Thread Marisa K.
Hi, I'm using Sybase. Does the direct connection mean the connection from RunRev? Is there a way I can connect to Sybase directly from RunRev?? However, the unicode can be displayed correctly , together with ODBC, through other SQL executing tool; JISQL. Do you think it's because of JDBC help

Re: Making Revolution faster with really big arrays

2005-04-29 Thread Dennis Brown
Read the earlier versions of this thread for the fast methods. This example is just for a specific test between Transcript and PostgreSQL Dennis On Apr 29, 2005, at 6:24 AM, Wouter wrote: On 28 Apr 2005, at 17:59, Dennis Brown wrote: Frank, This is a simplified algorithm that I think would

RE: I hate mousedown

2005-04-29 Thread Lynch, Jonathan
Your're welcome! The Drag stuff can get quite tricky. When the scripts are not set up properly, it can cause your stack to freeze up, or to act as if there is a script that keeps running and stopping in the background, causing RunRev to act very sluggish. For a button to receive a drapdrop, you

Re: Making Revolution faster with really big arrays

2005-04-29 Thread Frank D. Engel, Jr.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Did my earlier reply even make it through? I'm not seeing it on the list. Transcript is actually faster than what I was able to come up with for PostgreSQL -- much faster, in fact. Ada is WAY faster than either one of them -- a fraction of a second

RE: A Philosophical Point

2005-04-29 Thread Lynch, Jonathan
For my sake, please stay off the list... Jim I strongly object to this sentiment. As one who participates in this list, I enjoyed this thread, and do not want John to stay off the list. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Carwardine

Re: A Philosophical Point

2005-04-29 Thread Bill
I thought John's comments were interesting. His upload of files is nice too but I wish there was some descriptions both so you would know what file to download and so search engines could find them. In addition to the coding examples and help I also enjoy the various conversations (Rev related)

RE: Making Revolution faster with really big arrays

2005-04-29 Thread Lynch, Jonathan
How hard would it be to create a math and array processing external for RunRev? This would be useful for numerous things, including complex image processing. It would need to do two things: 1) allow the user to pass a script (like in C) for processing the array to the external 2) send the

Re: Making Revolution faster with really big arrays

2005-04-29 Thread Dennis Brown
Frank, Your earlier reply did not make it through. This is kinda what I thought would be the case, even though I was hoping for better. It seems that the way to go is to use another compiled language for the number crunching and Rev for the UI. This is doable in my case because I write out

Re: Making Revolution faster with really big arrays

2005-04-29 Thread Dennis Brown
Jon, I agree, this would be worthwhile to come up with. In my case all I really need is a minimal compiled language that can read a disk file, do a bunch of array math, and write the results back out. Don't really need the usual complexities of the GUI etc. Any suggestions? Dennis On Apr

Re: Problem with convert it to seconds

2005-04-29 Thread simplsol
JB, It is kind of you to say so. ;-) I hope someone in Scotland is listening to us... Paul Looney -Original Message- From: jbv [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 08:31:40 +0200 Subject: Re: Problem with convert it to seconds

Re: Problem with convert it to seconds

2005-04-29 Thread Mikey
I just put this on the TAO of RunRev blog. If y'all would email me, too, I'd get this posted faster. -- http://taoof4d.blogspot.com http://4dwishlist.blogspot.com On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the

Re: Problem with convert it to seconds

2005-04-29 Thread Richard Gaskin
I just put this on the TAO of RunRev blog. If y'all would email me, too, I'd get this posted faster. I hope someone in Scotland is listening to us... Paul Looney Has anyone posted this enhancement request for optional DST-independent time calculations to Bugzilla? What's the BZ report number?

Re: Problem with convert it to seconds

2005-04-29 Thread Mikey
In the interim, it still, IMHO needs to be on the Tao blog. The reason is that it is an unexpected behavior (despite the fact that it's documented). So, when y'all have things like this that come up I'd still like to know about them so I can get them on the list. --

Re: Problem with convert it to seconds

2005-04-29 Thread Mikey
Oops, sorry, I have the wrong blogs in the sig. http://www.taoofrunrev.blogspot.com -- http://taoof4d.blogspot.com http://4dwishlist.blogspot.com On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a

Re: Displaying execution errors caught in 'try' during development

2005-04-29 Thread Dar Scott
On Apr 22, 2005, at 10:29 AM, Trevor DeVore wrote: I saw the same problem with trying to throw an error from within a catch statement. What I've done is in the first catch statement I assign the error text to a variable. Outside the try statement if the variable isn't empty I then throw it.

Re: Problem with convert it to seconds

2005-04-29 Thread Mark Wieder
Richard- Friday, April 29, 2005, 8:18:48 AM, you wrote: RG Has anyone posted this enhancement request for optional DST-independent RG time calculations to Bugzilla? RG What's the BZ report number? I coulda sworn this was in bz, but the closest I could come was #2387, still categorized as new,

Re: Problem with convert it to seconds

2005-04-29 Thread Heather Nagey
I hope someone in Scotland is listening to us... Paul Looney We listen. Sometimes we even respond... And if the discussion gets out of hand I'll pop up and look stern :) But, and you can all sing along with me here ladies and gentlemen, if you want action, you need to post it to bugzilla:

Format of thrown errors; IDE error integration

2005-04-29 Thread Dar Scott
What is the format of thrown errors? How do I add to the error-code list? Dar -- ** DSC (Dar Scott Consulting Dar's Lab) http://www.swcp.com/dsc/ A Sponsor of RevCon West **

Re: Making Revolution faster with really big arrays

2005-04-29 Thread Dennis Brown
Jon, It should actually be very easy to create such a thing. This is something I have requested as far back as 6 or 7 years ago for Transcript (I was using SC back then). I was told that Keyed Arrays were coming and would solve all my problems... think again. It is no different than having

Re: Format of thrown errors; IDE error integration

2005-04-29 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 4/29/05 11:46 AM, Dar Scott wrote: What is the format of thrown errors? How do I add to the error-code list? Some of it is in the docs under errorDialog: A list of possible execution errors is contained in the cErrorsList property of the first card of the stack revErrorDisplay. You can view the

Tiger and windowShape

2005-04-29 Thread Lars Brehmer
Has anyone installed Tiger and looked at a revStack or standalone that uses a windowShape other than rectangular? I just installed Tiger on my backup machine to try it out and one of my main Rev projects has three stacks with a shape that is basically rectangular with a small, round protrusion

MySQL connection accepted

2005-04-29 Thread Paul Salyers
Dear Rev Programmers I need a simple small stack that will try and connect to a MySQL db on a server shell. If it connects ok I want a message that says Connected else No Connection Anyone have such a stack. I don't know how to do this but I would think there should be 3 test boxes: URL, db

Our friend the proxy server

2005-04-29 Thread Trevor DeVore
I'm interested in hearing what people are doing (if anything) for proxy detection on Windows. Here is the situation I am up against. I have an app which grabs data from the web on occasion. Detecting and setting proxy settings on Windows is fine if they have manually configured IE since the

Re: Correct syntax

2005-04-29 Thread Pierre Sahores
Hi Thomas, Your statement is OK. You just need to declare the global vars before using them in your handlers, so you can : 1.- declare them on top of your script, before any opened script, like : global MyGlobal1, MyGlobal2,... on mouseup put 1 into MyGlobal1 ... your code ... end mouseup 2.-

Re: MySQL connection accepted

2005-04-29 Thread Frank D. Engel, Jr.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The command you need to look at is revOpenDatabase; you can find that in the docs. If that function returns an integer, it is the handle number of the opened connection. Otherwise, it is an error message explaining why the connection failed. So

Re: MySQL connection accepted

2005-04-29 Thread Stephen Barncard
Why would you want to access MySQL through the shell, when it's available in Rev? sqb At 2:47 PM -0500 4/29/05, Paul Salyers wrote: Dear Rev Programmers I need a simple small stack that will try and connect to a MySQL db on a server shell. If it connects ok I want a message that says Connected

Re: MySQL connection accepted

2005-04-29 Thread Paul Salyers
At 03:00 PM 4/29/2005, you wrote: Why would you want to access MySQL through the shell, when it's available in Rev? sqb Because we are butting up a non-rep program on a shell that will be accessed via http://address.com Paul Salyers PS1 - Senior Rep. [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Our friend the proxy server

2005-04-29 Thread Pierre Sahores
Trevor, Unfortunally, the windows based proxy servers don't works anytime (some times yes, sometimes no) as expected in the situation you are describing, even if your server-side forms are well formed, aka including the needed metatags : meta http-equiv=pragma content=no-cache meta

Re: Correct syntax

2005-04-29 Thread Mikey
You just need to declare the global vars before using them in your handlers, so you can : Hmm, so what happens if I assign a global before declaring it as such? put crap into myCrap global myCrap -- http://taoof4d.blogspot.com http://4dwishlist.blogspot.com On the first day, God created the

Re: Our friend the proxy server

2005-04-29 Thread Trevor DeVore
I should probably clarify that I need the proxy settings to stuff in the HTTPProxy property. I don't need authentication, I just want to save the user from having to enter in their proxy info that they most likely will not know. -- Trevor DeVore Blue Mango Multimedia [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Correct syntax

2005-04-29 Thread Rob Cozens
Hi Tom, My thinking is they only need declared if I am going to do something with them. Is this faster? I don't think so. A global statement is in essence a compiler directive specifying the scope of the variable name. I doubt it comes into play at runtime. Rob Cozens, Staff Conservator

[ANN] Reminder - online scripting conferences

2005-04-29 Thread J. Landman Gay
Just a reminder that the big kickoff is tomorrow. Here's a copy of the most recent news announcement. Note that you can also join the conference via the link on the web page at http://support.runrev.com/scriptingconferences/. *** Don't forget! The first online conference is THIS SATURDAY,

Re: [ANN] Reminder - online scripting conferences

2005-04-29 Thread Victor Eijkhout
On Apr 29, 2005, at 4:59 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: 11.30am EST (3.30pm GMT) I thought EST was GMT-5. V. -- Victor Eijkhout Innovative Computing Lab, University of Tennessee, Knoxville 865 974 9308 ___ use-revolution mailing list

Re: Problem with convert it to seconds

2005-04-29 Thread Ken Ray
On 4/29/05 11:38 AM, Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Richard- Friday, April 29, 2005, 8:18:48 AM, you wrote: RG Has anyone posted this enhancement request for optional DST-independent RG time calculations to Bugzilla? RG What's the BZ report number? I coulda sworn this was in

Re: Correct syntax

2005-04-29 Thread Mark Wieder
Mikey- Friday, April 29, 2005, 1:13:04 PM, you wrote: M Hmm, so what happens if I assign a global before declaring it as such? M put crap into myCrap M global myCrap I believe the 2.5.1 will let you try this for yourself. -- -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Problem with convert it to seconds

2005-04-29 Thread Mark Wieder
Mikey- I finally took a look at the blog. That's getting to be quite a collection. Thanks for putting that together. -- -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] Friday, April 29, 2005, 8:55:43 AM, you wrote: M Oops, sorry, I have the wrong blogs in the sig. M http://www.taoofrunrev.blogspot.com

Re: Correct syntax

2005-04-29 Thread Thomas McGrath III
Ok then, Thanks. I have been trying to keep my code clean and fast since I will be doing a lot of things. I thought it might be faster at first since in Debug mode I had to click to advance on each line. So if it is not faster at runtime and only at compile time I still might do it this way

Re: [ANN] Reminder - online scripting conferences

2005-04-29 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 4/29/05 4:35 PM, Victor Eijkhout wrote: On Apr 29, 2005, at 4:59 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: 11.30am EST (3.30pm GMT) I thought EST was GMT-5. V. We're on Daylight Savings Time right now, so everything shifted one hour. EST right now is -4. This fall, it will be -5 again. At least, I

Re: [ANN] Reminder - online scripting conferences

2005-04-29 Thread Alex Tweedly
J. Landman Gay wrote: We're on Daylight Savings Time right now, so everything shifted one hour. EST right now is -4. This fall, it will be -5 again. At least, I think so, because I'm in Central time zone and we are at -5 right now. Actually, EST never changes - right now the East Coast states

Re: [ANN] Reminder - online scripting conferences

2005-04-29 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 4/29/05 5:49 PM, Alex Tweedly wrote: J. Landman Gay wrote: We're on Daylight Savings Time right now, so everything shifted one hour. EST right now is -4. This fall, it will be -5 again. At least, I think so, because I'm in Central time zone and we are at -5 right now. Actually, EST

Re: Problem with convert it to seconds

2005-04-29 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 4/29/05 5:09 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: Mikey- I finally took a look at the blog. That's getting to be quite a collection. Thanks for putting that together. Good start, yes. Good work Mikey. A couple of them don't feel quite right though. I'm not sure whether they should be left alone because

Re: [ANN] Reminder - online scripting conferences

2005-04-29 Thread James Spencer
On Apr 29, 2005, at 8:47 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: On 4/29/05 5:49 PM, Alex Tweedly wrote: J. Landman Gay wrote: We're on Daylight Savings Time right now, so everything shifted one hour. EST right now is -4. This fall, it will be -5 again. At least, I think so, because I'm in Central time

Re: [ANN] Reminder - online scripting conferences

2005-04-29 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 4/29/05 9:17 PM, James Spencer wrote: Okay, that's it. I have the solution. We all stay online for 24 hours nonstop so we don't miss anybody. And no fair sleeping. For those of us who can't do this (stay online for the next 24 hours) :), what time is the conference: 3:30 GMT or 11:30 EST?

RE: Our friend the proxy server

2005-04-29 Thread MisterX
Asking these (very) non-technical folks to configure every time they movie creates obvious problems. Anyone have any insight on how to detect proxy settings under any circumstances? Trevor, Have you checked MSDN or shellcity.org? They might have what you need... bingo, somewhat...

RE: Format of thrown errors; IDE error integration

2005-04-29 Thread MisterX
As you can see, I produced this in MetaCard instead of Revolution, since the error codes and messages are easier to access from MC. Jacky, I've been thinking of this for so long... Finally made a working try-based debugger this week and your message drops in the list while im looking at

Re: Our friend the proxy server

2005-04-29 Thread Trevor DeVore
On Apr 29, 2005, at 8:17 PM, MisterX wrote: Have you checked MSDN or shellcity.org? They might have what you need... I've search around MSDN a bit looking for an API to get the info but haven't found anything. bingo, somewhat... http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/

RE: Our friend the proxy server

2005-04-29 Thread MisterX
Right now our app allows someone to manually enter proxy settings. The problem is the app is going to be distributed across corporate networks, hospital networks, etc. I will probably add a feature to load in a proxy settings file that will automatically configure it the first time it

Re: [ANN] Reminder - online scripting conferences

2005-04-29 Thread Judy Perry
Yikes So, on the west US coast, do I drag my sorry *ss out of bed at 8:30 am or...? (okay, in my defense, I'll be trying to get the 4-y.o. twins to sleep in their own beds until midnight or so... sigh... maybe wake-up @ 2 am, crawl back to my own sleeping abode, have them wake me up 2 hours

A really cool trick! (medium level scripting)

2005-04-29 Thread MisterX
you probably dont know but this cool little script from HyperCard, somewhat modified across the life of its utility, is great to keep around. Many plugins already do it anyway... But that's not the point... on xy local lastxy repeat until the mouseClick get the mouseLochorz: the

RE: [ANN] Reminder - online scripting conferences

2005-04-29 Thread MisterX
you can login now ;) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Judy Perry Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2005 06:40 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; How to use Revolution Subject: Re: [ANN] Reminder - online scripting conferences Yikes So, on

Re: [ANN] Reminder - online scripting conferences

2005-04-29 Thread Dan Shafer
Judy You and I may not always see eye to eye, but on this point we are in harmony. Yuk. I'll *try* to be there, but no promises. On Apr 29, 2005, at 9:39 PM, Judy Perry wrote: I hate mornings... @;-) ~~ Dan Shafer, Co-Chair RevConWest '05 June 17-18,