Re: CGI's on a linux server

2008-03-12 Thread Richard Gaskin
Björnke von Gierke wrote: you need to manually (codially?) close every stack that you open in a cgi, otherwise you get that error. On 12 Mar 2008, at 02:21, Michael Doub wrote: I have been able to install the current engine on my ISP's linux server in cgi-bin and am able to run the simple

Re: Should I have to check compiled programmes?

2008-03-12 Thread curry
Should I check my compiled app for errors? Feel I shouldn't have to... In my opinion, you should definitely expect to check standalone apps thoroughly. There are a number of things that can cause differences between IDE and standalones, plus making sure you have the correct standalone

Tutorials on using Arrays in REV

2008-03-12 Thread Thomas McGrath III
Where is the best place to find tutorials on using arrays in RR? I tried using XML in my project and have not been able to smoothly use it for what i want so I am thinking that arrays would be better. Thanks Tom McG ___ use-revolution mailing list

RE: CGI's on a linux server

2008-03-12 Thread Michael Doub
If the script was not terminating properly I would think that there would have been some output from the cgiOutput statement before script terminated. I don’t think that the start using stack statement is being executed to cause rockerscgi.rev to be loaded into memory. Note that the cgiOutput

Re: How to set a field to Caps or TitleCaps

2008-03-12 Thread FlexibleLearning
Duh! Thanks, guys... Too many late nights! /H I wrote: Anyone figured out how to force a field to display text as Caps only, or as TitleCaps, whatever the state of the capsLock key, AND as the user is typing? It's this last bit that has me beat at the moment. This doesn't work

Re: CGI's on a linux server

2008-03-12 Thread Björnke von Gierke
Yes start using only starts using the stack, but what makes you think the stack is not in memory while being in use? If you want to use stacks in cgi's, you need to make sure they all close before the cgi quits. It's just the way it is, and i don't know exactly why. My guess is, that cgi's

Re: 2.9 or 2.8.1 – Same problem

2008-03-12 Thread Tom Johnson
Hi Martin, I don't think so because I'm not using the answer printer command. Thanks for the reply, though. Tom Could it be anything to do with this - 'Important! If you have used the answer printer command during the current session, the paper size is set to the size selected in the dialog

Re: 2.9 or 2.8.1 – Same problem

2008-03-12 Thread Len Morgan
It sure sounds like that could be your problem. I was not aware of this issue but I don't use the answer printer command. Sometimes when you give the user too much control, they end up using it! :-) len Tom Johnson wrote: Hi Martin, I don't think so because I'm not using the answer

Re: CGI's on a linux server

2008-03-12 Thread Richard Gaskin
Björnke von Gierke wrote: Yes start using only starts using the stack, but what makes you think the stack is not in memory while being in use? If you want to use stacks in cgi's, you need to make sure they all close before the cgi quits. Anything in use is in memory, but a stack in use

Re: Tutorials on using Arrays in REV

2008-03-12 Thread Thomas McGrath III
I found the Array Docs! Since I had to go back to 2.8.3 I have been using the user guide from there which has blank entries for both XML and Arrrays in Rev. I just opened the newer version of the User Guide in the newer version of Rev and there is a lot of new info on these and a lot of

Re: Tutorials on using Arrays in REV

2008-03-12 Thread Devin Asay
On Mar 12, 2008, at 8:23 AM, Thomas McGrath III wrote: I found the Array Docs! Since I had to go back to 2.8.3 I have been using the user guide from there which has blank entries for both XML and Arrrays in Rev. I just opened the newer version of the User Guide in the newer version of

Enterprise 2.8.1 and SSL

2008-03-12 Thread Malte Brill
Hi all, something strange when working with https in Rev Enterprise 2.8.1 the result contains error: cannot load SSL library What can I do to work around? All the best, Malte ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please

Re: CGI's on a linux server

2008-03-12 Thread Björnke von Gierke
There are many differences between using the engine as a CGI and as a normal GUI app, but at least in my tests on Linux at Dreamhost with v2.9 it seems that termination does the sort of memory cleanup we'd expect. Ah, good to know, thanks for testing it. -- official ChatRev page:

Re: while I await my password...

2008-03-12 Thread Judy Perry
Jacquie Colin, I believe so. I have a vivid memory of a migraine-causing stack produced once by a student that had something like 9 or 12 default buttons on a single card. You can imagine what a literal headache that caused. I think I even wrote here about it. =:-0 Now I just have students

Re: Tutorials on using Arrays in REV

2008-03-12 Thread Judy Perry
Tom Devlin, Thank you for these. While my Rev lab no longer exists (sob!), this was a question I heard repeatedly from students and wasn't certain where to send them (this was WA pre 2.8.anything). Judy On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 8:00 AM, Devin Asay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mar 12,

Re: while I await my password...

2008-03-12 Thread Richard Gaskin
J. Landman Gay wrote: Default buttons don't behave like OS X default buttons. They constantly pulse. What is supposed to happen is that when you click on them they stop pulsing in the brighter state, and if you roll off them they become empty, like a non-default button. In Rev they just

Re: question regarding print out of objects listing from the application browser

2008-03-12 Thread Sadhunathan Nadesan
Joe, Thank you for responding! Would this need to be cross platform, or would a Mac solution be acceptable? 65-70% PC users, 30-35% MAC, we need both, but prefer one code base. I use a PC. Regardless, I think I would lay everything out using Rev stacks, take screen

newbie level question

2008-03-12 Thread Colin Holgate
Oh, this will make you all laugh no doubt, but how do I use variables in the message box? For example, if I try this: get 10 put it the word it is put into the message box. What would I do differently in order to see the value 10 appear? ___

Re: newbie level question

2008-03-12 Thread Mark Smith
You can separate statements with a semi-colon: get 10 ; put it or you can use the multi-line message box... Best, Mark On 12 Mar 2008, at 17:35, Colin Holgate wrote: Oh, this will make you all laugh no doubt, but how do I use variables in the message box? For example, if I try this: get

Re: newbie level question

2008-03-12 Thread Colin Holgate
At 5:39 PM + 3/12/08, Mark Smith wrote: get 10 ; put it Good to know. or you can use the multi-line message box... Yes, I tried that right after posting my question! It seems that message box variables are not global in the way they were with HyperCard.

Re: question regarding print out of objects listing from the application browser

2008-03-12 Thread Joe Lewis Wilkins
Sadhunathan, On Mar 12, 2008, at 10:30 AM, Sadhunathan Nadesan wrote: Joe, Thank you for responding! Would this need to be cross platform, or would a Mac solution be acceptable? 65-70% PC users, 30-35% MAC, we need both, but prefer one code base. I use a PC. Working on

Re: newbie level question

2008-03-12 Thread Devin Asay
On Mar 12, 2008, at 11:35 AM, Colin Holgate wrote: Oh, this will make you all laugh no doubt, but how do I use variables in the message box? For example, if I try this: get 10 put it the word it is put into the message box. What would I do differently in order to see the value 10 appear?

Re: newbie level question

2008-03-12 Thread Jim Ault
On 3/12/08 9:35 AM, Colin Holgate [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh, this will make you all laugh no doubt, but how do I use variables in the message box? For example, if I try this: get 10 put it the word it is put into the message box. What would I do differently in order to see the value

Re: newbie level question

2008-03-12 Thread Richard Gaskin
Colin Holgate wrote: Yes, I tried that right after posting my question! It seems that message box variables are not global in the way they were with HyperCard. HyperCard turned any variables used in the Message Box into globals? Ouch. -- Richard Gaskin Managing Editor, revJournal

Re: newbie level question

2008-03-12 Thread Jim Ault
Correction: Sorry about the confusion I might have caused. I forgot to put one line in the sequence of message box commands: The first line is a simple declaration of the global you want to use: global gVarToHoldString --now the rest should work put the dog barks into gVarToHoldString put

Re: newbie level question

2008-03-12 Thread Eric Chatonet
Le 12 mars 08 à 19:01, Richard Gaskin a écrit : Colin Holgate wrote: Yes, I tried that right after posting my question! It seems that message box variables are not global in the way they were with HyperCard. HyperCard turned any variables used in the Message Box into globals? Ouch.

Re: newbie level question

2008-03-12 Thread Jim Ault
On 3/12/08 10:01 AM, Richard Gaskin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Colin Holgate wrote: Yes, I tried that right after posting my question! It seems that message box variables are not global in the way they were with HyperCard. HyperCard turned any variables used in the Message Box into globals?

Re: question regarding print out of objects listing from the application browser

2008-03-12 Thread Rob Cozens
Hi All, Regardless, I think I would lay everything out using Rev stacks, take screen shots of the finished stacks/cards/etc., and assemble one or more PDFs of the results. I missed the original post; so I may be missing the point. :-[ If the goal is to create a PDF document from text

[OT] They Criticized Vista. And They Should Know.

2008-03-12 Thread Scott Rossi
Sadly disturbing. Makes one wonder who's making the decisions over in Redmond. http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/09/business/09digi.html?_r=1oref=slogin Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Multimedia Design ___ use-revolution

Re: newbie level question

2008-03-12 Thread Colin Holgate
At 10:54 AM -0800 3/12/08, Jim Ault wrote: The 'it' container is a special one for Rev, so you need to learn how it works, usually by testing to make sure what happens is what you want. Of course, after 20.5 years of programming in Talk like languages I do know that it is special, I only used

RE: [OT] They Criticized Vista. And They Should Know.

2008-03-12 Thread Lynn Fredricks
Sadly disturbing. Makes one wonder who's making the decisions over in Redmond. http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/09/business/09digi.html?_r=1or ef=slogin I've told everyone in my company not to upgrade - if we get a new Vista machine, leave it. But otherwise, don't upgrade. Way, way too many

Re: [OT] They Criticized Vista. And They Should Know.

2008-03-12 Thread Richard Gaskin
Scott Rossi wrote: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/09/business/09digi.html?_r=1oref=slogin Sadly disturbing. Makes one wonder who's making the decisions over in Redmond. Magic 8-Ball? :) -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation

Re: [OT] They Criticized Vista. And They Should Know.

2008-03-12 Thread Josh Mellicker
On Mar 12, 2008, at 12:38 PM, Scott Rossi wrote: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/09/business/09digi.html? _r=1oref=slogin Hee hee hee. - Steve Jobs ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to

Re: [OT] They Criticized Vista. And They Should Know.

2008-03-12 Thread Joe Lewis Wilkins
Jim, I love it. Of course, I love all sorts of conspiracy theories - even the really stupid ones. After the kinds of things Gates pulled, initially, he would have deserved such treatment. (smile) Besides, The Pirates of Silicon Valley needs a sequel. Joe Wilkins On Mar 12, 2008, at 1:27

.9 b5

2008-03-12 Thread Hershel Fisch
Sorry may somebody zilla this. In .9 b5 in a table field the tab key wouldn't work if the fld was activated via focus on command, only when activated with the mouse Click Hershel ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please

Re: Reminder: objects cannot be copied when stack is password-protected!!! Even in a standalone. Grrrrrr....

2008-03-12 Thread Josh Mellicker
The saga continues: Setting the passkey in the preOpenStack script (or other startup script) certainly allows a project (wherein objects need to be copied) to function normally. But now that preOpenStack messages get sent in the IDE in dp-5, I realize this technique of setting the passkey

Re: [OT] They Criticized Vista. And They Should Know.

2008-03-12 Thread Mikey
We've deployed exactly one vista box. Since that time I've bought several more XP boxes just to avoid vista. I still have a vista box we purchased sitting in its box. It's probably going to stay there for the foreseeable future. On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 3:37 PM, Joe Lewis Wilkins [EMAIL

Re: [OT] They Criticized Vista. And They Should Know.

2008-03-12 Thread Jim Ault
On 3/12/08 11:00 AM, Richard Gaskin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Scott Rossi wrote: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/09/business/09digi.html?_r=1oref=slogin Sadly disturbing. Makes one wonder who's making the decisions over in Redmond. Magic 8-Ball? :) My current theory is that in a

Re: .9 b5

2008-03-12 Thread Richard Gaskin
Hershel Fisch wrote: Sorry may somebody zilla this. In .9 b5 in a table field the tab key wouldn't work if the fld was activated via focus on command, only when activated with the mouse Click http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/ Since this forum isn't reviewed for bug reports, it's infinitely

Re: CGI's on a linux server

2008-03-12 Thread Andre Garzia
Michael, did you solved this? I suspect that the permissions are wrong, or that the stackfile format is wrong. The correct permission is 755. I don't think the rockets cgi stackfile is saved in the new format, just in case, I've uploaded new version that I am sure is in the old stack file format.

Re: question regarding print out of objects listing from the application browser

2008-03-12 Thread J. Landman Gay
Sadhunathan Nadesan wrote: I could take screen shots with Irfanview, write up a word doc in Open Office, and export to PDF. You could automate the screenshot part in Revolution so you don't need to do it manually. Rev offers lots of ways to get screenshots out of your stack, and you can

Possible bug with internet time on servers?

2008-03-12 Thread Richard Gaskin
Dreamhost is based in Los Angeles, yet when my CGIs hosted there use the internet date the time zone portion is always +, e.g.: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 08:42:26 + Is there a valid reason that should be the case, or is this a bug in the engine in which it's failing to get the appropriate

Re: Tutorials on using Arrays in REV

2008-03-12 Thread Thomas McGrath III
Thanks devin, I will check them out. What I need is deep arrays or .syntax I think or a creative mix of customProps and arrays. Tom McG On Mar 12, 2008, at 11:00 AM, Devin Asay wrote: On Mar 12, 2008, at 8:23 AM, Thomas McGrath III wrote: I found the Array Docs! Since I had to go back

Re: Possible bug with internet time on servers?

2008-03-12 Thread Mark Wieder
Richard- Dreamhost is based in Los Angeles, yet when my CGIs hosted there use the internet date the time zone portion is always +, e.g.: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 08:42:26 + Is there a valid reason that should be the case, or is this a bug in the engine in which it's failing to get the

Re: Possible bug with internet time on servers?

2008-03-12 Thread Richard Gaskin
Mark Wieder wrote: Richard- Dreamhost is based in Los Angeles, yet when my CGIs hosted there use the internet date the time zone portion is always +, e.g.: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 08:42:26 + Is there a valid reason that should be the case, or is this a bug in the engine in which it's

Re: question regarding print out of objects listing from the application browser

2008-03-12 Thread mfstuart
Hi Jacqueline and Sadhunathan, Testing Jacqueline's script on WinXP, I found the from rect (the rect of this cd) value is from the top right of the monitor, (for the size of the card) not from the top right of the stack or card. So in the image you end up with the screen back ground, the RunRev

Push button strangeness?

2008-03-12 Thread Bruce A. Pokras
I have never heard anyone talk about this, but it seems very strange. A Push Button under Mac OS X looks like an Aqua button, but when I add color to the button it becomes a Square Button. What gives??? Regards, Bruce Pokras Blazing Dawn Software www.blazingdawn.com [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: CGI's on a linux server

2008-03-12 Thread Michael Doub
I got the engine from the revolution site in the current folder. Since 2.6.1 is the most current folder I am assuming that I picked up the 2.6.1 engine. Is there an easy way to verify? Also where might I get a 2.8.x engine? -= Mike -Original Message- From: Andre Garzia [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: Push button strangeness?

2008-03-12 Thread Mark Schonewille
Hi Bruce, This is normal behaviour. As soon as you add colour, it is no longer a native control and can't be displayed as such. Best regards, Mark Schonewille -- Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz A large collection of

Re: Push button strangeness?

2008-03-12 Thread Scott Rossi
Recently, Bruce A. Pokras wrote: I have never heard anyone talk about this, but it seems very strange. A Push Button under Mac OS X looks like an Aqua button, but when I add color to the button it becomes a Square Button. What gives??? Rev doesn't offer the ability to colorize or otherwise

Re: question regarding print out of objects listing from the application browser

2008-03-12 Thread J. Landman Gay
mfstuart wrote: Hi Jacqueline and Sadhunathan, Testing Jacqueline's script on WinXP, I found the from rect (the rect of this cd) value is from the top right of the monitor, (for the size of the card) not from the top right of the stack or card. So in the image you end up with the screen back

Re: Push button strangeness?

2008-03-12 Thread Stephen Barncard
And Mr. Rossi is too humble to say, but his custom controls are quite amazing, functional and beautiful. Recently, Bruce A. Pokras wrote: I have never heard anyone talk about this, but it seems very strange. A Push Button under Mac OS X looks like an Aqua button, but when I add color to

Re: question regarding print out of objects listing from the application browser

2008-03-12 Thread Richard Gaskin
mfstuart wrote: I looked up the Documentation for export snapshot and found that you need to use the windowID property of the stack in the export snapshot line to get images of the stack or card, in this case. But first place the windowID into a variable: put the windowID of this stack

GIF question...

2008-03-12 Thread David Flanders
Hi, Can we create animated GIF's in RunRev? Will RR support playing of animated GIF's? Let me know. tia David David Flanders - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Environment: OSX 10.4.11 Intel core 2 duo 2.33 Ghz RunRev 2.8.1 SC 4.6.2 ___

Re: [OT] They Criticized Vista. And They Should Know.

2008-03-12 Thread Chipp Walters
On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 1:37 PM, Joe Lewis Wilkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jim, I love it. Of course, I love all sorts of conspiracy theories - even the really stupid ones. After the kinds of things Gates pulled, initially, he would have deserved such treatment. (smile) No arguing Gates has

Re: [OT] They Criticized Vista. And They Should Know.

2008-03-12 Thread Chipp Walters
No kidding. The simple fact is, it's an inferior product at this time. WinXP takes less memory, and generally work much faster. One of the issues as I see it is MS took what...5 years to release this, compared to Apple's regular release around every 2 years? Compound it with the contradiction

Re: [OT] They Criticized Vista. And They Should Know.

2008-03-12 Thread Joe Lewis Wilkins
Interesting article; but, as it also points out, the RECORD doesn't necessarily tell the whole story, since those with bad/evil images are the ones who need to make PUBLIC their good deeds in order to attempt to fix things, much as the philandering spouse who unexpectedly brings home roses

Re: [OT] They Criticized Vista. And They Should Know.

2008-03-12 Thread Thomas McGrath III
Chipp, others, I tried to open google docs in my REV browser and it said I needed to use a more up to date browser. BUT it will open in Safari. I think it is a catch all error though since on the web in safari it needs to or wants to open a new window. Has anyone or yourself tried to

Re: [OT] They Criticized Vista. And They Should Know.

2008-03-12 Thread Chipp Walters
Let me get this straight. You're telling me the most noteworthy CEO performer of all time, keeps all his charity contributions a secret, EXCEPT for those done for the Democratic Party. Right. Frankly, I doubt any of the school children aided by the 2 billion dollars care WHY they are the

Re: [OT] They Criticized Vista. And They Should Know.

2008-03-12 Thread Chipp Walters
Hi Tom, Nope, I haven't, but I'll ask Chris about it, and hopefully let you know what he says. best, Chipp On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 9:12 PM, Thomas McGrath III [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chipp, others, I tried to open google docs in my REV browser and it said I needed to use a more up to date

RE: [OT] They Criticized Vista. And They Should Know.

2008-03-12 Thread Lynn Fredricks
The simple fact is, there is ZERO compelling reason for the average user to want to upgrade. Period. That's pretty sorry for five plus years in development. With regard to Office, it's not the OS, but a completely different interface. So instead of evolutionary, it's revolutionary.

Re: [OT] They Criticized Vista. And They Should Know.

2008-03-12 Thread Chipp Walters
IMO, one of the most interesting parts of the new Office interface, is it's complete disdain for the past. In fact, ask any user of pre-2007 Office how to simply Open or Print a document, and they're confounded. The old File, Edit, ... menu structure is just GONE. Completely. Replaced by a round

Re: GIF question...

2008-03-12 Thread Nicolas Cueto
Yes. For more info, in the Rev documents see the properties: frameCount currentFrame repeatCount -- Nicolas Cueto ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your

Re: GIF question...

2008-03-12 Thread Chipp Walters
As Nicolas say, yes, RR supports playing them. No, other than exporting a single image as GIF, there is no known way to export an animated GIF in RunRev. On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 8:31 PM, David Flanders [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Can we create animated GIF's in RunRev? Will RR support

Re: Push button strangeness?

2008-03-12 Thread Chipp Walters
You can also use ButtonGaget2, which works as a plugin inside of Rev: www.buttongadget.com -Chipp On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 8:06 PM, Scott Rossi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2) create and script your own controls using images and/or graphics. ___

Re: [OT] They Criticized Vista. And They Should Know.

2008-03-12 Thread Richard Gaskin
Chipp Walters wrote: IMO, one of the most interesting parts of the new Office interface, is it's complete disdain for the past. In fact, ask any user of pre-2007 Office how to simply Open or Print a document, and they're confounded. The old File, Edit, ... menu structure is just GONE.

Re: [OT] They Criticized Vista. And They Should Know.

2008-03-12 Thread David Coker
On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 10:48 PM, Richard Gaskin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chipp Walters wrote: IMO, one of the most interesting parts of the new Office interface, is it's complete disdain for the past. In fact, ask any user of pre-2007 Office how to simply Open or Print a document, and

Re: Reminder: objects cannot be copied when stack is password-protected!!! Even in a standalone. Grrrrrr....

2008-03-12 Thread Jim Sims
On Mar 12, 2008, at 8:46 PM, Josh Mellicker wrote: Setting the passkey in the preOpenStack script (or other startup script) certainly allows a project (wherein objects need to be copied) to function normally. But now that preOpenStack messages get sent in the IDE in dp-5, I realize this

Re: GIF question...

2008-03-12 Thread David Flanders
Hi Chip, Nick I was just wondering for the sake of playing a low overhead gif animation on the web. I've got a gif animator but it's clutsy and chunky and doesn't go down well... Thought I might make a smoother flavor. thanks David David Flanders - [EMAIL