Re: Window position management

2009-04-18 Thread Terry Judd
Checkout the screenrects function in the dictionary. You should be able to use it to see if your window rect is within the working rect of any active monitor. If it isn't then I'd set the topleft of the window to a default value. Terry... On 18/04/09 3:29 PM, Bill Vlahos bvla...@mac.com wrote:

3.5 on Debian Linux

2009-04-18 Thread Peter Alcibiades
Well, after a quick canter through, its a bit of a disappointment. 1) Rev Browser is still conspicuous by its absence. 2) Mutliple Desktops still do not work in Gnome. Haven't bothered to try KDE. This makes no sense: Rev is the only application I ever found where they do not work right

Re: on-rev example: 'globals.cgi' conversion

2009-04-18 Thread Andre.Bisseret
Le 18 avr. 09 à 06:03, Phil Davis a écrit : A quick on-rev example: Just to get started, I converted my 'globals' CGI script to an on- rev web page: !DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN HTML HEAD LANG=en TITLE?rev put the short date the long time ?/TITLE

Re: [OT] Opinions about On-Rev

2009-04-18 Thread Andre.Bisseret
Thank you very much Jacque for these clear explanations. If building web pages in On-Rev is really just building stacks as I do now then yes, that's a very nice progress. Up to now, I mainly use and feed 2 sites but which were built by friends of mine; I am myself not at all knowledgeable

Re: on-rev example: 'globals.cgi' conversion

2009-04-18 Thread Ian Wood
On 18 Apr 2009, at 09:33, Andre.Bisseret wrote: Bonjour, Clicking on the URL I get the following lines Being rather naive about web programming, I must confess, I am still in the dark ;-)) Was it really what you expected one discovers? I was expecting something like a beautiful web page

Re: on-rev example: 'globals.cgi' conversion

2009-04-18 Thread Andre.Bisseret
Le 18 avr. 09 à 11:35, Ian Wood a écrit : On 18 Apr 2009, at 09:33, Andre.Bisseret wrote: Bonjour, Clicking on the URL I get the following lines Being rather naive about web programming, I must confess, I am still in the dark ;-)) Was it really what you expected one discovers? I was

Re: [OT] Opinions about On-Rev

2009-04-18 Thread Ian Wood
On 18 Apr 2009, at 02:51, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote: Thank you for the timely, informative explanation. This does mean that on-rev has to be the hosting site for the webpages, however, does it not? In other words, a client could not hire one of us to create a website that they plan to run

Window position management

2009-04-18 Thread Richmond Mathewson
I tend to do this: set the topLeft of stack to 25,25 this keeps it clear of any menubars that may be hanging around. of course this is based on the assumption that the dimensions of the stack are smaller than those of the screen resolution. sincerely, Richmond Mathewson.

Re: 3.5 on Debian Linux

2009-04-18 Thread Bernard Devlin
Hi Peter, Not to ignore your disappointment, but I suspect it will be some years before the LInux version gets sufficient treatment to bring it to parity with the other platforms. The only thing one can do is abandon Rev, adjust one's expectations, or use Rev on a different OS. I know that it

Re: on-rev example: 'globals.cgi' conversion

2009-04-18 Thread Mark Smith
I just uploaded the 3.5 linux engine (which works fine for cgis in Dreamhost) to on-rev, and so far can't make it work - getting 500 server errors...will keep trying. Best, Mark On 18 Apr 2009, at 06:58, Jim Ault wrote: Very cool, Phil. And now it could be time for the benchmark wizard

Re-2: on-rev example: 'globals.cgi' conversion

2009-04-18 Thread runrev260805
Hi, asked support already, if this is possible. But had the time to test it myself. Made it as described in Jacqueline´s tutorial at http://www.hyperactivesw.com/cgitutorial/ Worked here. http://www.multitronic.me/cgi-bin/test.cgi Regards, Matthias Original Message

Re: data grid code (color)

2009-04-18 Thread sadhu
Trevor, You are right! It works. I closed the ticket (marked not a bug). Thank you again, very much. Sadhu ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription

Re: Re-2: on-rev example: 'globals.cgi' conversion

2009-04-18 Thread Mark Smith
Got it working - I though I'd set the permissions (with Transmit), but they hadn't taken - all working now. Best, Mark On 18 Apr 2009, at 15:22, runrev260...@m-r-d.de wrote: Hi, asked support already, if this is possible. But had the time to test it myself. Made it as described in

Re: [OT] Opinions about On-Rev

2009-04-18 Thread Jim Ault
On Apr 18, 2009, at 2:29 AM, Ian Wood wrote: If I've been reading the On-Rev FAQ/examples correctly, no - it would be possible to embed On-Rev pages within iframes in pages hosted on other servers. http://samples.on-rev.com/iframe.irev I'm not that up to date on iframes, but I think

radio buttons in group on mouseup behavior suggestions

2009-04-18 Thread william humphrey
I have eight or so radio buttons that are in a group. In the script of the group I have a on mouseup command that runs another script that checks which button is down and then does something. I've noticed that this script is inconsistent. Sometimes the mouseup is ignored. I'm looking for another

Re: radio buttons in group on mouseup behavior suggestions

2009-04-18 Thread Mark Wieder
william- Saturday, April 18, 2009, 10:54:44 AM, you wrote: I have eight or so radio buttons that are in a group. In the script of the group I have a on mouseup command that runs another script that checks which button is down and then does something. I've noticed that this script is

Re: 3.5 on Debian Linux

2009-04-18 Thread Peter Alcibiades
OK, I renamed, and on opening it recreated and restored the defaults. So at least that awful yellow has now gone. But I cannot figure out how to change the default appearance to motif and have it stick. Nor does it seem to remember any recently opened files. Recently opened files is empty,

Re: radio buttons in group on mouseup behavior suggestions

2009-04-18 Thread william humphrey
It was just a simple mouseup in the group script that goes through and checks the hilite of each button in the group and then does an action depending on that hilite like: *if* the hilite of button (CO) is true *then* do something On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 2:05 PM, Mark Wieder

on-Rev and Domain Names

2009-04-18 Thread Len Morgan
I've seen a few sample URLs of people using on-Rev and they all seem to be domain name.on-Rev.com (or something close). Is this going to be a requirement or can I have a domain name such as mydomain.com and still have it come up that way in the address bar? len morgan

Re: on-rev example: 'globals.cgi' conversion

2009-04-18 Thread Phil Davis
I just set up a CGI in my on-rev account that is 'mostly' equivalent to the .irev web page (on-rev) approach, and tried it out. I was a little surprised that the CGI execution speed is almost the same as with on-rev: revCGI = This page of code executed in 0.000242 secs. on-rev = This page of

Re: radio buttons in group on mouseup behavior suggestions

2009-04-18 Thread Mark Wieder
william- Saturday, April 18, 2009, 11:15:36 AM, you wrote: It was just a simple mouseup in the group script that goes through and checks the hilite of each button in the group and then does an action depending on that hilite like: *if* the hilite of button (CO) is true *then* do

Re: on-Rev and Domain Names

2009-04-18 Thread Phil Davis
Hi Len, You can host any domain names (and any number of them) in your account - but when you sign up, you first receive your own subdomain. That's what you have been seeing here. Other domain names will show up as you would expect. Phil Davis Len Morgan wrote: I've seen a few sample URLs

Re: on-Rev and Domain Names

2009-04-18 Thread Richard Gaskin
Len Morgan wrote: I've seen a few sample URLs of people using on-Rev and they all seem to be domain name.on-Rev.com (or something close). Is this going to be a requirement or can I have a domain name such as mydomain.com and still have it come up that way in the address bar? Yep - the front

Re: on-Rev and Domain Names

2009-04-18 Thread Colin Holgate
On Apr 18, 2009, at 3:10 PM, Phil Davis wrote: Hi Len, You can host any domain names (and any number of them) in your account - but when you sign up, you first receive your own subdomain. That's what you have been seeing here. Other domain names will show up as you would expect. With

Re: on-rev example: 'globals.cgi' conversion

2009-04-18 Thread Richard Gaskin
Phil Davis wrote: I just set up a CGI in my on-rev account that is 'mostly' equivalent to the .irev web page (on-rev) approach, and tried it out. I was a little surprised that the CGI execution speed is almost the same as with on-rev: revCGI = This page of code executed in 0.000242 secs.

Re: radio buttons in group on mouseup behavior suggestions

2009-04-18 Thread william humphrey
Thanks for the suggestion. I think I'll do that because I suspect the error is in the name of one of the buttons. On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 3:02 PM, Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net wrote: william- Saturday, April 18, 2009, 11:15:36 AM, you wrote: It was just a simple mouseup in the group

Re: on-Rev and Domain Names

2009-04-18 Thread Malte Brill
Hi Colin, If you forward from your original domain it is like someone asks you Where do I find your candy store that has the goodies at your office. You then tell them It is in abc.on-rev street, this is just the office, move along, nothing to buy here You redirect them there. If you do

Re: [OT] on-rev urls

2009-04-18 Thread Bill Marriott
You must 1) In GoDaddy's Domain Manager, Point your nameservers for yourdomain.com to ns1.on-rev.com and ns2.on-rev.com 2) In On-Rev's control panel, set up an add-on domain for yourdomain.com Voila, you have yourdomain.com working without all that subdomain business. (Don't use forwarding!)

Re: on-Rev and Domain Names

2009-04-18 Thread Yves COPPE
Le 18-avr.-09 à 21:32, Malte Brill a écrit : Hi Colin, If you forward from your original domain it is like someone asks you Where do I find your candy store that has the goodies at your office. You then tell them It is in abc.on-rev street, this is just the office, move along, nothing

Re: on-rev example: 'globals.cgi' conversion

2009-04-18 Thread Mark Smith
On 18 Apr 2009, at 20:24, Richard Gaskin wrote: The CGI is indeed fast, but if the timing is being measured inside the script it's not accounting for the biggest difference between the CGI and on-Rev: on-Rev has no load time to bring the engine into memory and initialize it since it's

Re: [OT] on-rev urls

2009-04-18 Thread Colin Holgate
On Apr 18, 2009, at 7:37 AM, Bill Marriott wrote: 1) In GoDaddy's Domain Manager, Point your nameservers for yourdomain.com to ns1.on-rev.com and ns2.on-rev.com 2) In On-Rev's control panel, set up an add-on domain for yourdomain.com Thanks, I had done #2 with setting up the

Re: on-Rev and Domain Names

2009-04-18 Thread Colin Holgate
On Apr 18, 2009, at 3:32 PM, Malte Brill wrote: The DNS stuff translates the domain name you enter to the actual IP address your content is hosted on. So am I right that it would require the fixed IP option? Wasn't that something like $8 per month? Meanwhile, I'm trying Bill's

Re: on-Rev and Domain Names

2009-04-18 Thread Malte Brill
Hi Yves, I wouldn´t say I am experienced with this either. :) This might shed some light though: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domain_Name_System#Domain_registration If you cancel the subscription with your current provider, you will need to make sure that your domain still can be found on

Re: on-rev example: 'globals.cgi' conversion

2009-04-18 Thread Ian Wood
On 18 Apr 2009, at 20:44, Mark Smith wrote: I'll leave it up for a few hours if anyone wants to try it out (I'd also be interested in other people's timing from different places - I'm in London). From Devon, some pretty varied results... irev:1518 md5-hmac =

Re: on-rev example: 'globals.cgi' conversion

2009-04-18 Thread Jim Ault
Changed the last line of your script to get irev: tTimA tResA cr cgi: tTimB tResB put msg cr cr it into msg --to concatenate results After waiting 30 seconds, 4 clicks 1 second apart = 4 results listed below - irev:115 md5-hmac = 7e5872da5d34a822584a698fe7db6c10 cgi:83

Re: on-Rev and Domain Names

2009-04-18 Thread Yves COPPE
Le 18-avr.-09 à 21:58, Malte Brill a écrit : Hi Yves, I wouldn´t say I am experienced with this either. :) This might shed some light though: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domain_Name_System#Domain_registration If you cancel the subscription with your current provider, you will need to

Re: [OT] on-rev urls

2009-04-18 Thread Colin Holgate
On Apr 18, 2009, at 7:37 AM, Bill Marriott wrote: Voila, you have yourdomain.com working without all that subdomain business. (Don't use forwarding!) I have two domains, and both are now set for not forwarding, and with the nameservers the same. Everything at godaddy and on-rev are the

Re: on-rev example: 'globals.cgi' conversion

2009-04-18 Thread François Chaplais
Le 18 avr. 09 à 10:33, Andre.Bisseret a écrit : Le 18 avr. 09 à 06:03, Phil Davis a écrit : A quick on-rev example: Just to get started, I converted my 'globals' CGI script to an on- rev web page: !DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN HTML HEAD LANG=en TITLE?rev

Re: radio buttons in group on mouseup behavior suggestions

2009-04-18 Thread william humphrey
Solved the radio buttons in group both by using *switch* the hilitedButtonName of *group* x -- to avoid the numbered button thing which changed depending on whether you added a new button. AND By deleting the button that the switch just couldn't seem to see and adding a new one with the

Re: on-rev example: 'globals.cgi' conversion

2009-04-18 Thread François Chaplais
Le 18 avr. 09 à 22:29, François Chaplais a écrit : I agree with Andre. To the average web user, what is displayed is pretty awful, and, even to a person with little rev experience such as me, the actual rev script is shorter and simpler to understand than to web output. This is not

Re-2: [OT] on-rev urls

2009-04-18 Thread runrev260805
Hi Colin, i have already moved 2 domains to on-rev. More will follow. On was registered at Godaddy. For that domain i just changed which nameservers are responsible for that domain. So i entered ns1.on-rev and ns2.on-rev. The other domain was registered at a german ISP. So therefore i had to

Re: Re-2: [OT] on-rev urls

2009-04-18 Thread Colin Holgate
On Apr 18, 2009, at 5:10 PM, runrev260...@m-r-d.de wrote: In you networksetting of your pc/mac change the dns/nameserver settings to 74.54.153.74 and 74.54.153.75. These are the on-rev nameservers. Then try to connect your domain with your browser. Does the url change? Thanks for the

Re: Sending Email with attachment

2009-04-18 Thread william humphrey
Since *Syntax: revMail address[,ccAddress[,mailSubject[,messageBody]]]* does not allow for attaching a file how do you do that? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage

Re: Re-2: [OT] on-rev urls

2009-04-18 Thread Scott Rossi
Recently, Colin Holgate wrote: In you networksetting of your pc/mac change the dns/nameserver settings to 74.54.153.74 and 74.54.153.75. These are the on-rev nameservers. Then try to connect your domain with your browser. Does the url change? Thanks for the ideas, but all is well now!

Re: Re-2: [OT] on-rev urls

2009-04-18 Thread Scott Rossi
Recently, I wrote: I believe you're generally supposed to allow 24 to 48 hours for DNS changes to propagate throughout the Internet. If changes don't show up after that time, it's probably worth contacting your ISP. Make that registrar, not ISP. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director

Re: Re-2: [OT] on-rev urls

2009-04-18 Thread Colin Holgate
On Apr 18, 2009, at 5:43 PM, Scott Rossi wrote: I believe you're generally supposed to allow 24 to 48 hours for DNS changes to propagate throughout the Internet. It's the weekend, so it managed it a couple of hours. It was just odd that the second one took 60 times longer than the first

Script Editor: (Object: cant set script while it is executing)

2009-04-18 Thread David Bovill
Not to up on the RevIDe script editor - keep getting this message, but can;t find which script is executing and command-period is doing nothing. Seems no way out save for force quitting? Any tricks? On a possibly related not - I'm getting stacks that seem to have their modal status changed - you

Re: Re-2: [OT] on-rev urls

2009-04-18 Thread Jim Lambert
Switching the DNS setting so that a site can live on different servers is straightforward. But what happens with mailservers if I want to move a domain that also has email from one ISP to another? Say, to on-rev? Jim Lambert ___ use-revolution

Re: on-rev example: 'globals.cgi' conversion

2009-04-18 Thread J. Landman Gay
François Chaplais wrote: I agree with Andre. To the average web user, what is displayed is pretty awful, and, even to a person with little rev experience such as me, the actual rev script is shorter and simpler to understand than to web output. This is not meant to be aggressive towards Phil,

Re: [OT] Opinions about On-Rev

2009-04-18 Thread Jerry J
From: J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com For me, I haven't seen such a cool thing since I was gobsmacked by the ability to run a stack from a remote server in one line of script. I just checked - gobsmacked.com is not available. 8-/ -- Jerry J

Domain names

2009-04-18 Thread -= JB =-
Here is a website that helped me learn about domain names and how to register one. file:///Save%20Stuff%20ƒ/How%20to%20Register%20Your%20Own%20Domain% 20Name:%20What%20to%20Do,%20Which%20Registrar,%20etc%20 (thesitewizard.com).webarchive

Re: Domain names

2009-04-18 Thread Mark Schonewille
Hi, If you don't want to pay for a domain name rightaway but just want to create one to experiment with, you could register one or two for free here http://www.co.cc/?id=155745. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com

Re: on-Rev and Domain Names

2009-04-18 Thread Bill Marriott
No, what we're proposing is the same thing. The fixed IP address is for other applications. Colin Holgate co...@rcn.com wrote in message news:ebdb07aa-0ee7-43b5-afa4-16561affc...@rcn.com... On Apr 18, 2009, at 3:32 PM, Malte Brill wrote: The DNS stuff translates the domain name you enter

Re: Re-2: [OT] on-rev urls

2009-04-18 Thread Jim Ault
On Apr 18, 2009, at 2:59 PM, Colin Holgate wrote: On Apr 18, 2009, at 5:43 PM, Scott Rossi wrote: I believe you're generally supposed to allow 24 to 48 hours for DNS changes to propagate throughout the Internet. It's the weekend, so it managed it a couple of hours. It was just odd

RapidWeaver

2009-04-18 Thread Marty Knapp
This is slightly off topic, but as there's been a lot of posts about On-Rev I thought that I'd let all you Mac users know that there's a sale on RapidWeaver at Smith Micro (I have no connection with either business). This web site creation software normally sells for $79.99 US, but you can get

Re: on-rev example: 'globals.cgi' conversion

2009-04-18 Thread Paul Looney
Phil, Very impressive. PL On Apr 17, 2009, at 9:03 PM, Phil Davis wrote: A quick on-rev example: Just to get started, I converted my 'globals' CGI script to an on- rev web page: !DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN HTML HEAD LANG=en TITLE?rev put the

Re: [OT] Opinions about On-Rev

2009-04-18 Thread J. Landman Gay
Jerry J wrote: From: J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com For me, I haven't seen such a cool thing since I was gobsmacked by the ability to run a stack from a remote server in one line of script. I just checked - gobsmacked.com is not available. 8-/ I learned that word from Susan Boyle.

Re: [OT] Opinions about On-Rev

2009-04-18 Thread Mark Smith
Gob - british english slang (probably from gaelic) for mouth Best, Mark On 19 Apr 2009, at 02:55, J. Landman Gay wrote: Jerry J wrote: From: J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com For me, I haven't seen such a cool thing since I was gobsmacked by the ability to run a stack from a

Re: on-rev example: 'globals.cgi' conversion

2009-04-18 Thread Mark Smith
I guess we'd expect it to be faster from within the US (data centre is in Texas, I believe), but the difference in cgi/irev seems similar. Ian - maybe your ISP has been hitting the cider :) best, Mark On 18 Apr 2009, at 21:10, Jim Ault wrote: Changed the last line of your script to

Re: on-rev example: 'globals.cgi' conversion

2009-04-18 Thread Richard Gaskin
François Chaplais wrote: I agree with Andre. To the average web user, what is displayed is pretty awful, and, even to a person with little rev experience such as me, the actual rev script is shorter and simpler to understand than to web output. This is not meant to be aggressive towards

Re: on-rev example: 'globals.cgi' conversion

2009-04-18 Thread Phil Davis
No offense taken, François. As others have said, visual appeal was not my purpose. I maintain several apps that 'reach out' to a specific server from time to time and either initiate an action on the server or get info from it. In both cases, all the app wants is an API to the server-side

Re: on-rev example: 'globals.cgi' conversion

2009-04-18 Thread Chipp Walters
No surprise there are such varied results. The server round trip times are probably dominated by the route intervals, as opposed to the script run times. IOW, the internet connection latency would be the decided factor for something like this. I suspect it will be most difficult to benchmark

Re: RapidWeaver

2009-04-18 Thread Chipp Walters
While I don't know anything about RapidWeaver, I do know a bit about the company who sells it, SmithMicro. They're an aggregataor of software companies in trouble, and they do as little as possible to update the programs they purchase. I might suggest people interested in creating their own

Re: RapidWeaver

2009-04-18 Thread Colin Holgate
On Apr 18, 2009, at 11:50 PM, Chipp Walters wrote: I might suggest people interested in creating their own websites, check out WordPress. Free, very easy to use and installs automatically on your On-Rev server account It took a couple of minutes of research to figure out that to

Re: [OT] Opinions about On-Rev

2009-04-18 Thread Mark Swindell
Shut yer gob yer fat get, or I kick your face in. -John Lennon (In His Own Write) On Apr 18, 2009, at 7:00 PM, Mark Smith wrote: Gob - british english slang (probably from gaelic) for mouth Best, Mark On 19 Apr 2009, at 02:55, J. Landman Gay wrote: Jerry J wrote: From: J. Landman Gay

Re: RapidWeaver

2009-04-18 Thread Stephen Cox
WordPress is a PHP blogging system. Has a template system for site design. It's well used and respected. And there are many plug-ins. It's open source. Drupal is a PHP framework. You can create any kind of website with it really. It's referred to as a 'CMS' framework because of huge 3rd party

Sending Email with attachment

2009-04-18 Thread Mark Stuart
Hi William, What platform are you aiming this feature to work on? If Windows, I have a VBScript that will allow an attachment. It launches the email client to populates all the relevant fields, and the attachment field. Let me know. Regards, Mark Stuart

Re: on-rev example: 'globals.cgi' conversion

2009-04-18 Thread J. Landman Gay
Phil Davis wrote: I was pretending to be an application. So I produced a web page only an application could love! ;o) Oh just confess. You're a bot, right? ;) -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com