quoting all names, the mystery (was Re: [ANN] News Reader Stack Available)

2003-07-03 Thread Alex Rice
On Thursday, June 19, 2003, at 12:15 AM, Dar Scott wrote: On Wednesday, June 18, 2003, at 11:08 PM, Chipp Walters wrote: I'm with Jacqueline. I always thought it took the interpreter longer to figure out what it's looking at. _HyperTalk 2.2 The Book_ Says on p. 45. Enclosing literals in

Re: quoting all names, the mystery (was Re: [ANN] News Reader Stack Available)

2003-07-03 Thread Dar Scott
On Thursday, July 3, 2003, at 12:15 PM, Alex Rice wrote: _HyperTalk 2.2 The Book_ Says on p. 45. Enclosing literals in quotation marks can result in considerable time savings-- up to 20% for loops with several hundred or thousand repetitions. I think this means --up to 20% which can be

Re: quoting all names, the mystery (was Re: [ANN] News Reader Stack Available)

2003-07-03 Thread Alex Rice
On Thursday, July 3, 2003, at 01:17 PM, Dar Scott wrote: On Thursday, July 3, 2003, at 12:15 PM, Alex Rice wrote: _HyperTalk 2.2 The Book_ Says on p. 45. Enclosing literals in quotation marks can result in considerable time savings-- up to 20% for loops with several hundred or thousand

Re: quoting all names, the mystery (was Re: [ANN] News Reader Stack Available)

2003-07-03 Thread Dar Scott
On Thursday, July 3, 2003, at 01:45 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: Okay, I got curious. I revised Dar's original script, which contained no repeats, to include a long repeat loop: I think this can be improved by putting an empty loop in the correction timing. That should get rid of the loop

Re: quoting all names, the mystery (was Re: [ANN] News Reader Stack Available)

2003-07-03 Thread Dar Scott
On Thursday, July 3, 2003, at 01:48 PM, Alex Rice wrote: Here is where I see a mystery-- Suppose I insert this line at the start of the the minimal unquoted test: if 0 = 1 then put cow into dummy The report at the end shows that 'get dummy' got empty. If I put that at the end, then 'get

RE: [ANN] News Reader Stack Available

2003-06-21 Thread erik hansen
--- Monte Goulding [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you can't use explicitVariables in rev i don't understand. do you mean that you would not advise using explicitVariables? or that you just can not? Put it this way: If you are looking to have a stressful experience then type set the

RE: [ANN] News Reader Stack Available

2003-06-20 Thread erik hansen
--- Monte Goulding [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you can't use explicitVariables in rev i don't understand. do you mean that you would not advise using explicitVariables? or that you just can not? because of the amount of undeclared variables in the IDE. for us lumpen, how does this work?

RE: [ANN] News Reader Stack Available

2003-06-20 Thread Monte Goulding
you can't use explicitVariables in rev i don't understand. do you mean that you would not advise using explicitVariables? or that you just can not? Put it this way: If you are looking to have a stressful experience then type set the explicitVariables to true into the msg box then watch

Re: [ANN] News Reader Stack Available

2003-06-19 Thread Dar Scott
On Wednesday, June 18, 2003, at 11:08 PM, Chipp Walters wrote: I'm with Jacqueline. I always thought it took the interpreter longer to figure out what it's looking at. ... Has anyone else any thoughts on the wisdom or otherwise of quoting all names? I believe there is a slight speed hit if you

Re: [ANN] News Reader Stack Available

2003-06-19 Thread sims
Glad to hear someone finds it useful. I was getting quite sick of clicking links, waiting for pages to load, clicking back to return to stories, etc., thus this project. There are a few more features I'd like to add, such as searching past stories, displaying reviews, and viewing forum comments,

Re: [ANN] News Reader Stack Available

2003-06-19 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 6/19/03 1:15 AM, Dar Scott wrote: On Wednesday, June 18, 2003, at 11:08 PM, Chipp Walters wrote: I'm with Jacqueline. I always thought it took the interpreter longer to figure out what it's looking at. ... Has anyone else any thoughts on the wisdom or otherwise of quoting all names? I

[ANN] News Reader Stack Available

2003-06-18 Thread Scott Rossi
Greetings List: - THE SHORT I've made available a small news browser for grabbing and reading the news off of MacCentral. The stack requires MetaCard 2.5 or Revolution 2. To access it, launch our stack player by entering the following command in your message box: go stack url

Re: [ANN] News Reader Stack Available

2003-06-18 Thread Victor Eijkhout
this project started me thinking about the development of specialized Web browsers or MiniBrowsers whose goal is to access and display publicly available HTML in focused and unique ways. Hm... Sherlock? Watson? -- Victor Eijkhout [EMAIL PROTECTED], 329 Claxton, Comp Sci, UT, Knoxville TN 37996.

Re: [ANN] News Reader Stack Available

2003-06-18 Thread Sarah
Hi Scott, I love it! Every morning I check out the latest MacCentral headlines and your interface provides a really clean, quick and easy way to do it. Thanks very much. Browsing through your scripts (always on the lookout for good techniques), I noticed that you start object names with an

Re: [ANN] News Reader Stack Available

2003-06-18 Thread Scott Rossi
Recently, Sarah wrote: I love it! Every morning I check out the latest MacCentral headlines and your interface provides a really clean, quick and easy way to do it. Thanks very much. Glad to hear someone finds it useful. I was getting quite sick of clicking links, waiting for pages to

Re: [ANN] News Reader Stack Available

2003-06-18 Thread Dar Scott
On Wednesday, June 18, 2003, at 04:28 PM, Sarah wrote: Has anyone else any thoughts on the wisdom or otherwise of quoting all names? Since I have the memory of a goldfish, I like to name objects the way I label them. This means names might have spaces and other interesting characters that

Re: [ANN] News Reader Stack Available

2003-06-18 Thread erik hansen
--- Scott Rossi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you start object names with an underline and don't put them in quotes. Have you had any problems with this? Never. Personally, I find quotes visually distracting and add unnecessary characters to the script. Also, the underscore makes it

RE: [ANN] News Reader Stack Available

2003-06-18 Thread Ken Ray
still, this is a big step. quote all object names goes all the way back. is this quoting taboo only designed to save programers from their own foulups? i had imagined there was some deep mysterious proto machine intelligence sensibility at work. In a way, you're right. It all boils down to

Re: [ANN] News Reader Stack Available

2003-06-18 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 6/18/03 5:28 PM, Sarah wrote: Has anyone else any thoughts on the wisdom or otherwise of quoting all names? I believe there is a slight speed hit if you don't use quotes, since the engine has to figure out whether the word is a variable or a name. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay |

RE: [ANN] News Reader Stack Available

2003-06-18 Thread Monte Goulding
In a way, you're right. It all boils down to what the interpreter will accept as well as understanding that if you program in other languages you probably won't be able to implement those bad habits. Personally, I'm all for doing whatever gets the job done with the least amount of typing.

RE: [ANN] News Reader Stack Available

2003-06-18 Thread Chipp Walters
] News Reader Stack Available On 6/18/03 5:28 PM, Sarah wrote: Has anyone else any thoughts on the wisdom or otherwise of quoting all names? I believe there is a slight speed hit if you don't use quotes, since the engine has to figure out whether the word is a variable or a name