The output is universal - Webkit will be the predominant browser engine very
soon and most worthwhile of writing for. The potential is huge and the
actual development computer is such a small part of the ROI. Get a mini !
The percentage of Mac vs PC desktops has nothing to do with marketing
in
the OS they will run on.
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On 07/20/2010 10:58 AM, Peter Alcibiades wrote:
Yes, this is indeed a complete showstopper, there is no Mac hardware in the
future of quite a lot of us. Its very interesting, in particular the
Transfer package is very interesting, but nothing is interesting enough to
move one back into that
But hey, we'll see. It will be most interesting. Meanwhile, one assumes
that it means that Rodeo apps will run in Chrome or Konqueror or Galeon on
Linux? Now that is interesting. Its just a pity one cannot write them in
the OS they will run on.
You can, using a web-based editor.
You just
Jerry -
The screen shots look very nice. I noticed there's no seam between the
title bar of the window and the toolbar as is common in Rev apps because
we don't currently have a toolbar object. But since the language shown
looks like RevTalk I had thought it was made with Rev. What is the
But hey, we'll see. It will be most interesting. Meanwhile, one assumes
that it means that Rodeo apps will run in Chrome or Konqueror or Galeon on
Linux? Now that is interesting. Its just a pity one cannot write them in
the OS they will run on.
You can, using a web-based editor.
You
It's not written using Rev, but in XCode, it seems. It looks like someone with
good Objective-C and Cocoa skills wrote a lovely editor. Perhaps if the
programmer feels adventurous, he/she could experiment with Cocotron
http://www.cocotron.org/ to provide a Windows port.
The only rev-related
Jan, you are correct. We wrote the Rodeo client ourselves in Xcode without any
outside talent. We combined many of the elements of the Rev version of Rodeo
Editor and the web version of our editor.
MJ, me and Sarah worked on the Rodeo 2.0 release. Sarah did the heavy lifting,
but we all
Jan, You bring up an interesting point with suggesting a Windows port.
We feel the real target in the future is not desktop OS like Mac, Windows or
Linux, but environments like Webkit which are finding their way into an amazing
variety of devices.
Until that future arrives, we felt that to do
Richard,
The Mac client app that Rodeo 2.0 uses for it's editor is built in Xcode using
Objective-C, not Revolution.
Here's a link to a post about it:
http://rodeoapps.com/rodeo-20-built-as-an-xcode-app-so-you-can-bui
Best,
Jerry Daniels
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David,
Sarah is sound asleep in Australia at the moment, so I'll see if I can answer
that for you.
All transfer does is translate revTalk into Rodeo definitions. Rodeo server
then translates those definitions into HTML/CSS. Until our Deploy Anywhere
feature becomes available later in the
David,
I meant to include in my answer, our development time table, so you and others
interested can see where we're going to be with the product over the next five
weeks:
http://rodeoapps.com/rodeo-20-built-as-an-xcode-app-so-you-can-bui
Jerry
On Jul 20, 2010, at 8:42 AM, Jerry Daniels
On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 8:42 AM, Jerry Daniels jerry.dani...@me.com wrote:
David,
Sarah is sound asleep in Australia at the moment, so I'll see if I can answer
that for you.
All transfer does is translate revTalk into Rodeo definitions. Rodeo server
then translates those definitions into
David,
I only wish I was as good as Sarah at clarifying and answering questions. She's
gifted in that area where I am not...at least when it comes to text. I'm one of
those bullet point guys that the presentation experts hate.
See my answers/notes below, please...
Thank you for the
On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 10:06 AM, Jerry Daniels jerry.dani...@me.com wrote:
David,
I only wish I was as good as Sarah at clarifying and answering questions.
She's gifted in that area where I am not...at least when it comes to text.
I'm one of those bullet point guys that the presentation
Since this seems to be the day for questions, one more I haven't seen asked:
If I spring for Rodeo (and I'm very close to doing it) am I forever tied to
dependency on the Rodeo server? What about those of us who have invested in our
own on-rev account or in revServer? Can we produce code on the
Devin,
They way Jerry explained it to me is that you would be able to deploy
to any server.
I believe they are working on that this week.
BTW I am astounded at the progress they have made on this.
They have accomplished things in a month that I expected to take a year.
The outlook for
Devin,
Paul is correct in all his answers below. Especially the astounding...I'm
astounded by our team. We're on to something, here.
Jerry
On Jul 20, 2010, at 2:57 PM, Paul Looney wrote:
Devin,
They way Jerry explained it to me is that you would be able to deploy to any
server.
I believe
Devin,
I would add ONE point of clarification that is strongly implied in Paul's
answer, but not explicitly stated:
You are only dependent upon the Rodeo server for development and testing. When
you deploy in the release version, you can deploy to your own server, LAN,
cloud, desktop...even
Paul-
Yeah - I've signed on now even though I don't have any current
interest in deploying to the iPlatforms. I don't have a need for it
right now, but I want to support the team and it gives me a new toy to
play with g.
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For $89, I'm in. Just signed up, more because of my experience with past
projects Jerry's been involved with than my real need for Rodeo. I am hoping I
can get the other developers around here to toy around with it and see where it
goes from there.
Bob
On Jul 20, 2010, at 1:04 PM, Jerry
On Jul 20, 2010, at 12:57 PM, Paul Looney wrote:
BTW I am astounded at the progress they have made on this.
They have accomplished things in a month that I expected to take a
year.
The outlook for Rodeo is very bright. I can't wait. And, given
Jerry's reputation for followingthrough, it
I signed up a week or so ago too, in spite of my low funds this month. It
seems it's always a good deal investing in DM - (I'm a small kickstarter,
as well, and proud of it)
On 20 July 2010 14:29, Jim Ault jimaultw...@yahoo.com wrote:
On Jul 20, 2010, at 12:57 PM, Paul Looney wrote:
BTW I am
We want to thank everyone for their support of Rodeo and our team. It means a
lot to all of us.
In fact...
So much goodness is pouring out of my laptop from the list here, that I am
surrounded by cute little woodland creatures who now feel safe and secure. Even
the raccoons.
Seriously...
By the way, we just posted French and Brazilian translations of our Rodeo
Transfer documentation. We now have all our docs in three languages: French,
Portuguese/Brazilian and Texan.
Looking for volunteer translators for German, Italian and Spanish.
Best,
Jerry Daniels
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I am surprised by the many things revealed during this month's summit!
Data Objects
New ways to set object properties from other objects A New Editor A
clearer
explanation of the different forms
that you would pay if you were to get it now.
Plus if you get in now, you can get rodeo transfer for free!
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I am still iffy on where I put the business logic. Can I use standard
Revolution commands and functions? Can I define my own? Or do I have to code
all that in the html myself? Not really sure. Maybe these things are going to
come along later.
Bob
On Jul 20, 2010, at 2:29 PM, Jim Ault wrote:
I understand those issues completely. thanks.
On 20 July 2010 15:37, Jerry Daniels jerry.dani...@me.com wrote:
Stephen,
Video of the Summit being edited. It's a big file. Next couple days should
be done.
Best,
Jerry Daniels
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Hey, Bob!
Everything in Rodeo is a definition. And there are two types: UI elements and
actions.
You link your defined UI elements to actions. Your logic is in the action
definition. Everything written VERY much like Rev code.
Look at the examples in the Samples on the Rodeo home page. Read
Thanks just coming around. I was doing exactly that when you replied. Actions.
What a concept! As I mentioned in another post, I am just a very gifted
Chimpanzee, although I begin to suspect not so gifted as once I imagined. But
non-Texans can do this you say! I suppose is some broad sense I
This has happened before. Jerry (and Company) takes a known paradigm,
smashes it to pieces, and creates a whole new way of looking at a problem
and a solution - *out of the box* indeed. I am looking forward to setting
aside some time soon to learn and build something useful with this new tool.
On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 11:09 PM, Jan Schenkel janschen...@yahoo.com wrote:
It's not written using Rev, but in XCode, it seems. It looks like someone
with good Objective-C and Cocoa skills wrote a lovely editor.
I think I'm going to frame this email!
Thanks for the compliment Jan.
Cheers,
Same there ;-)
Le 20 juil. 2010 à 23:29, Jim Ault a écrit :
I agree with the crowd. Just signed up to support this stellar effort.
Not sure how I am going to use the web technology,
but I am sure there are many wonderful lessons ahead.
Jim Ault
Las Vegas
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mobile :
Stephen, great to be around your enthusiasm for learning, exploring and
delivering.
On Jul 20, 2010, at 5:56 PM, stephen barncard wrote:
This has happened before. Jerry (and Company) takes a known paradigm,
smashes it to pieces, and creates a whole new way of looking at a problem
and a
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Data Objects
New ways to set object properties
*Rodeo* is the price of about 4.5 high quality large PIZZAs at this moment.
Folks should not gain the weight and do this instead.
I just changed an image in an 'action' and it was an aha moment. It's a
game changer, just like the 'pad. I saw 6 or so iPads on each of my flights
to the south
On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 12:48 PM, stephen barncard
stephenrevoluti...@barncard.com wrote:
*Rodeo* is the price of about 4.5 high quality large PIZZAs at this moment.
Folks should not gain the weight and do this instead.
I just changed an image in an 'action' and it was an aha moment. It's a
with what
they have accomplished to this point that full freight on just that, alone, is
worth it.
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Had lunch with Jerry today and he walked me through their progress. Pretty
impressive going. He showed me how simple it is to create an app which
launched any other apps on the iPad-- which IMO was pretty cool. I've got
all these damn iPad icons blasted over a dozen or so screens, so some sort
of
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On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 1:39 PM, Chipp Walters ch...@chipp.com wrote:
Had lunch with Jerry today and he walked me through their progress. Pretty
impressive going. He showed me how simple it is to create an app which
launched any other apps on the iPad-- which IMO was pretty cool. I've got
all
Sarah, if you're still on the line for quick questions...
Can/Do/Will Rodeo pages work with Rev 3rd-party apps? Specially
Malte's Animation Engine, or Damien's NativeGeometry.
Thanks.
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Sarah, if you're still on the line for quick questions...
Can/Do/Will Rodeo pages work with Rev 3rd-party apps? Specially
Malte's Animation Engine, or Damien's NativeGeometry.
Still here...
No. Rodeo creates web pages,
On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 2:41 AM, Robert Mann r...@free.fr wrote:
Hi folks, it seems that it is the last minute to get onboard Rodeo for a
pre-release ride...
Version 2 seems to be coming this week...
with data storage??
I have no connection with Rodeo..
just sympathy to the team
and to
All of this looks very interesting. But what I can't see anywhere is
whether or not buying in now would keep my price at $89/year or
whether I would suddenly have to pay over $400 more next year when I
renewed. The current deal looks great, but I can't see spending
$499/year for Rodeo. It
Hey, Rodney!
Good hearing from you.
The price for Rodeo will go up after the first year. If, as you say, it's a
hobby and you're just fooling around, there's nothing to lose. Just don't
renew. Meantime, you had a lot of fun for a year.
On the other hand, if something comes to you in a vision
Well, I cannot say 100% whether it would make an absolute difference
in a purchase/license/subscription decision, but there is still at one
factor that makes it a total, 100% no-go...
...Mac only.
Looks like you all are doing some great and valuable work on Rodeo and
IMO, the new Transfer spin
Hey, David!
Thanks for the note. We had to make a hard decision with platforms and aim for
the future, which is actually not Mac desktop, but webkit, and its ilk. We ARE
limiting our current desktop editor to Mac, however. A short-term necessity for
us. Rodeo Transfer runs on any machine that
it.. !
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Data Objects
New ways to set object properties from other objects A New Editor A clearer
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I am surprised by the many things revealed during this month's summit!
Data Objects
New ways to set object properties from other objects A New Editor A clearer
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Data Objects
Thanks Jerry, sorry I couldn't be there; personal matters on Saturday at the
same time prevented, but I want to see what happened.
On 18 July 2010 20:15, Jerry Daniels jerry.dani...@me.com wrote:
Andre,
Once the said videos are posted to the site, they are available to all!
Best,
Jerry
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