I developed 5 engines (21 titles) in Prograph CPX. I loved Prograph,
although I was disappointed when they finally released it for Windows and
CPX (the ABCs) didn't live up to the cross-platform promises (it took a lot
of work to work around bugs on Windows). It seems their application
To: How to use Revolution
Subject: Re: Prograph (was Re: MacWorld part 2)
I developed 5 engines (21 titles) in Prograph CPX. I loved
Prograph, although I was disappointed when they finally
released it for Windows and CPX (the ABCs) didn't live up to
the cross-platform promises (it took
Thanks Dar.
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On Jan 15, 2005, at 5:41 PM, Paul wrote:
I see. I am re-writing my Buzz-o-sonic program (frequency analyzer
for measuring impulse-excited materials) in LabVIEW. I have not done
much with RunRev yet - except a diary app I hope to release when I
get the time.
Roger,
Ahhhyes! That was it. I really enjoyed using that tool almost as
much as I enjoyed all the Amigas I owned. I don't mean to take this in
another direction, but that OS was truly ahead of its time. I remember
switching to the Mac after I felt like I was the last one to still use
Yeah, I did a frustrating stint with iconic development as well. It was
the early days of the Mac and some of you may remember a new icon-based
driven database program called Odesta Helix.
It didn't take too long to figure out dragging icons around on a 512 x
342 resolution screen wasn't going
There is a very real sense in which words can be viewed as icons, but
complex icons which have certain possibilities of interrelationship
built into them. This is probably hard to simulate in iconic
programming
Regards
James
On 14 Jan, 2005, 2005 18:07:59 -0800, Richard Gaskin wrote:
Before
On Jan 14, 2005, at 6:45 PM, Dan Shafer wrote:
As some of you may know, I wrote one of two books published on
Prograph before that product/company essentially went belly-up. (Hmmm.
I hope I don't have the decidedly unhelpful effect on *all* the
companies whose products I write books about. heh
On Jan 15, 2005, at 7:24 AM, James Richards wrote:
There is a very real sense in which words can be viewed as icons, but
complex icons which have certain possibilities of interrelationship
built into them. This is probably hard to simulate in iconic
programming
I did a prototype of a
I never saw the kind of buggy performance you describe here, Dar, but I
do remember that the shift from simple Prograph to the far more complex
set of class libraries in CPX caused a LOT of bugs and performance
issues.
Dan
On Jan 15, 2005, at 8:22 AM, Dar Scott wrote:
On Jan 14, 2005, at 6:45
Hello There,
Le 15 janv. 05, à 16:24, James Richards a écrit :
On 14 Jan, 2005, 2005 18:07:59 -0800, Richard Gaskin wrote:
Part of Appleton's motivation for creating SuperCard was his feeling
that textual programming, such as scripting, offered much greater
expressiveness.
Seems us scripters don't
Bon soir Pierre,
Hello There,
...
XTalk is still the onest development paradigm able to let us build a
fourty different screens web app in less than 100 kb of code (PG
backend management included)... and it's just why we are right in
going head with Rev instead of any 10 years to old
Hi
I used to develop relational datab ase applications apps for company
internal use with something called Double Helix in the 80's. It was
completely iconic stuff, you only wrote the names of the things, everything
else was an icon. Stuff worked, could be quite complex. Maintenance was a
bit of
Dear Dan and Dar:
I just wanted to wrote in defense of Prograph CPX. I bought the Mac and
Windows versions and have written successful apps in both. I have a
business based on an app I wrote in Prograph CPX (Buzz-o-sonic,
http://www.buzzmac.com). It was a great language and I too was sad to
James Richards wrote:
There is a very real sense in which words can be viewed as icons, but
complex icons which have certain possibilities of interrelationship
built into them. This is probably hard to simulate in iconic programming
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On Jan 15, 2005, at 12:18 PM, Paul wrote:
I just wanted to wrote in defense of Prograph CPX. I bought the Mac
and Windows versions and have written successful apps in both.
On Windows?
I guess I was too early. I bought Prograph CPX for $599 because I
wanted to make double-clickable apps. It
Hi Dar:
Yes, I used Prograph on Windows. They did bring out new releases for the
Mac which were an improvement. I didn't pay quite so much for CPX as I
upgraded from the original version. Anyway, it's all history now. What
sort of apps do you write in LabVIEW?
Cheers,
Paul
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Double Helix was a really nice tool. I used it a good bit as well. I
think one of the reasons it worked better than lots of other graphical
languages was its focus on database solutions.
Dan
On Jan 15, 2005, at 11:12 AM, Hannu Kokko wrote:
Hi
I used to develop relational datab ase applications
Mark,
Was it AmigaVision? I used that allot to make slideshows of weddings with
music, animation, and it could be recorded to videotape easily with the
Amiga's built-in TV-out capability. AmigaVision had drag drop icons with
programatic if-then structures and control capabilities. It was
On Jan 15, 2005, at 1:43 PM, Paul wrote:
Yes, I used Prograph on Windows. They did bring out new releases for
the Mac which were an improvement. I didn't pay quite so much for CPX
as I upgraded from the original version. Anyway, it's all history now.
What sort of apps do you write in LabVIEW?
I start to include/understand how a bundle of radish can sometimes
contain the entire world. Jean Helium (painter... of bundles of radish
but not only).
Just a little correction to the first line of the previous post :
please read 100 ko instead of 100 kb where needed.
Gruss Gott, Klaus and
: MacWorld part 2
I start to include/understand how a bundle of radish can sometimes
contain the entire world. Jean Helium (painter... of bundles of
radish but not only).
Just a little correction to the first line of the previous post :
please read 100 ko instead of 100 kb where needed.
Gruss
I was reading a review of the Mac Faire in the NY Times.
Speaking of the Mac Mini: It's what Mac fans call aheadless Mac,
and what Mr. Jobs call BYODKM--Bring Your Own Display, Keyboard and
Mouse.
Now who is Mr. Jobs, I thought to myself.
NY Times; always first class.
Jim
I see. I am re-writing my Buzz-o-sonic program (frequency analyzer for
measuring impulse-excited materials) in LabVIEW. I have not done much
with RunRev yet - except a diary app I hope to release when I get the
time. Are there any user lists like this for LabVIEW? This user list is
one of the
On Jan 15, 2005, at 5:41 PM, Paul wrote:
I see. I am re-writing my Buzz-o-sonic program (frequency analyzer for
measuring impulse-excited materials) in LabVIEW. I have not done much
with RunRev yet - except a diary app I hope to release when I get the
time. Are there any user lists like this
All-
Much more briefly this time, since I've been laid up in bed for the
last couple of days with a cold and accompanying sinus headache which
has unfortunately kept me from even thinking about doing any real work
at the computer.
I dug through the pile of papers that I brought home from the
A friend of mine went to MacWorld, saw this thing, bought it, installed
it, poked at it, and sent me a note.
As some of you may know, I wrote one of two books published on Prograph
before that product/company essentially went belly-up. (Hmmm. I hope I
don't have the decidedly unhelpful effect
Dan Shafer wrote:
That said, the ultimate disappointment of Prograph was that even though
it seemed like it ought to be a way to bring programming to the
Inventive Users I know and love so well, alas, it embodies a very steep
learning curve. Combined with the fact that screen size limitations
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