Re: Materialized views stability

[Hannu Kröger]

Ok, thanks for the info. This is what I wanted to know.

Cheers,
Hannu

On 2 October 2017 at 18:27:16, Carlos Rolo (r...@pythian.com) wrote:

I've been dealing with MV extensively, and I second Blake. MVs are not
suitable for production. Unless you're ready for the pain (The out of sync
is a major pain point), I would not go that way.

Regards,

Carlos Juzarte Rolo
Cassandra Consultant / Datastax Certified Architect / Cassandra MVP

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On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 4:50 PM, Blake Eggleston 
wrote:

> Hi Hannu,
>
> There are more than a few committers that don't think MVs are currently
> suitable for production use. I'm not involved with MV development, so this
> may not be 100% accurate, but the problems as I understand them are:
>
> There's no way to determine if a view is out of sync with the base table.
> If you do determine that a view is out of sync, the only way to fix it is
> to drop and rebuild the view.
> There are liveness issues with updates being reflected in the view.
>
> Any one of these issues makes it difficult to recommend for general
> application development. I'd say that if you're not super familiar with
> their shortcomings and are confident you can fit your use case in them,
> you're probably better off not using them.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Blake
>
> On October 2, 2017 at 6:55:52 AM, Hannu Kröger (hkro...@gmail.com) wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I have seen some discussions around Materialized Views and stability of
> that functionality.
>
> There are some open issues around repairs:
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-13810?
> jql=project%20%3D%20CASSANDRA%20AND%20issuetype%20%3D%20Bug%
> 20AND%20status%20in%20(Open%2C%20%22In%20Progress%22%2C%
> 20Reopened%2C%20%22Patch%20Available%22%2C%20Testing%
> 2C%20%22Ready%20to%20Commit%22%2C%20%22Awaiting%20Feedback%22)%20AND%
> 20component%20%3D%20%22Materialized%20Views%22
>
> Is it so that the current problems are mostly related to incremental
> repairs or are there also other major concerns why some people don’t
> consider them to be safe for production use?
>
> Cheers,
> Hannu
>
>

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Re: Materialized views stability

[Carlos Rolo]

I've been dealing with MV extensively, and I second Blake. MVs are not
suitable for production. Unless you're ready for the pain (The out of sync
is a major pain point), I would not go that way.

Regards,

Carlos Juzarte Rolo
Cassandra Consultant / Datastax Certified Architect / Cassandra MVP

Pythian - Love your data

rolo@pythian | Twitter: @cjrolo | Skype: cjr2k3 | Linkedin:
*linkedin.com/in/carlosjuzarterolo
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On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 4:50 PM, Blake Eggleston 
wrote:

> Hi Hannu,
>
> There are more than a few committers that don't think MVs are currently
> suitable for production use. I'm not involved with MV development, so this
> may not be 100% accurate, but the problems as I understand them are:
>
> There's no way to determine if a view is out of sync with the base table.
> If you do determine that a view is out of sync, the only way to fix it is
> to drop and rebuild the view.
> There are liveness issues with updates being reflected in the view.
>
> Any one of these issues makes it difficult to recommend for general
> application development. I'd say that if you're not super familiar with
> their shortcomings and are confident you can fit your use case in them,
> you're probably better off not using them.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Blake
>
> On October 2, 2017 at 6:55:52 AM, Hannu Kröger (hkro...@gmail.com) wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I have seen some discussions around Materialized Views and stability of
> that functionality.
>
> There are some open issues around repairs:
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-13810?
> jql=project%20%3D%20CASSANDRA%20AND%20issuetype%20%3D%20Bug%
> 20AND%20status%20in%20(Open%2C%20%22In%20Progress%22%2C%
> 20Reopened%2C%20%22Patch%20Available%22%2C%20Testing%
> 2C%20%22Ready%20to%20Commit%22%2C%20%22Awaiting%20Feedback%22)%20AND%
> 20component%20%3D%20%22Materialized%20Views%22
>
> Is it so that the current problems are mostly related to incremental
> repairs or are there also other major concerns why some people don’t
> consider them to be safe for production use?
>
> Cheers,
> Hannu
>
>

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Re: Materialized views stability

[Blake Eggleston]

Hi Hannu,

There are more than a few committers that don't think MVs are currently 
suitable for production use. I'm not involved with MV development, so this may 
not be 100% accurate, but the problems as I understand them are: 

There's no way to determine if a view is out of sync with the base table.
If you do determine that a view is out of sync, the only way to fix it is to 
drop and rebuild the view.
There are liveness issues with updates being reflected in the view. 

Any one of these issues makes it difficult to recommend for general application 
development. I'd say that if you're not super familiar with their shortcomings 
and are confident you can fit your use case in them, you're probably better off 
not using them.

Thanks,

Blake

On October 2, 2017 at 6:55:52 AM, Hannu Kröger (hkro...@gmail.com) wrote:

Hello,

I have seen some discussions around Materialized Views and stability of that 
functionality.

There are some open issues around repairs:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-13810?jql=project%20%3D%20CASSANDRA%20AND%20issuetype%20%3D%20Bug%20AND%20status%20in%20(Open%2C%20%22In%20Progress%22%2C%20Reopened%2C%20%22Patch%20Available%22%2C%20Testing%2C%20%22Ready%20to%20Commit%22%2C%20%22Awaiting%20Feedback%22)%20AND%20component%20%3D%20%22Materialized%20Views%22

Is it so that the current problems are mostly related to incremental repairs or 
are there also other major concerns why some people don’t consider them to be 
safe for production use?

Cheers,
Hannu

Materialized views stability

[Hannu Kröger]

Hello,

I have seen some discussions around Materialized Views and stability of
that functionality.

There are some open issues around repairs:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-13810?jql=project%20%3D%20CASSANDRA%20AND%20issuetype%20%3D%20Bug%20AND%20status%20in%20(Open%2C%20%22In%20Progress%22%2C%20Reopened%2C%20%22Patch%20Available%22%2C%20Testing%2C%20%22Ready%20to%20Commit%22%2C%20%22Awaiting%20Feedback%22)%20AND%20component%20%3D%20%22Materialized%20Views%22

Is it so that the current problems are mostly related to incremental
repairs or are there also other major concerns why some people don’t
consider them to be safe for production use?

Cheers,
Hannu