Re: [FRIDAY] Re: has struts reached the saturation

2006-03-18 Thread Dakota Jack
Indeed! Hoo hah! Has anyone asked why Tapestry, which is just JSF done well in my opinion, is causing no difficulties on the Struts list? On 3/18/06, Paul Benedict <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> Ted's central principle that "darwin decides" > > This is a false principle in the terms of softwa

Re: [FRIDAY] Re: has struts reached the saturation

2006-03-18 Thread Dakota Jack
Yes, but thank god that the elected committers who are not elected officials have absolutely no responsibility and that the descent of Struts theory somehow will save the day? On 3/18/06, Alexandre Poitras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I think struts has reached Slashdot status. There are so many

Re: [FRIDAY] Re: has struts reached the saturation

2006-03-18 Thread Dakota Jack
Good lord, Mark, get off the science. Are you completely lost? This is about Struts, although the elected committers who are not elected officials will soon claim that we are as far off the beaten track as you. On 3/18/06, Mark Lowe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 3/18/06, Paul Benedict <[EMAI

Re: [FRIDAY] Re: has struts reached the saturation

2006-03-18 Thread Dakota Jack
No, Mark, as usual you set a whole new dimension. On 3/18/06, Mark Lowe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Phlogiston was an element that helped scientists explain why things > burnt.. It worked for a while (the model could explain the observed > phenomona) until the observation was made that when wei

Re: Struts CMS ?

2006-03-18 Thread Alexandre Poitras
If you want to use Lenya wich is based upon Cocoon, you should take a look at the Cocoon plugin for Struts : http://struts.sourceforge.net/struts-cocoon/ On 3/18/06, Shshank Jain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hii, > > Are there any Content management systems (CMS) which can be easily > integrated i

Re: [FRIDAY] Re: has struts reached the saturation

2006-03-18 Thread Alexandre Poitras
I think struts has reached Slashdot status. There are so many religious war lately. On 3/18/06, Mark Lowe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 3/18/06, Paul Benedict <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> Ted's central principle that "darwin decides" > > > > This is a false principle in the terms of softwar

Re: [FRIDAY] Re: has struts reached the saturation

2006-03-18 Thread Leon Rosenberg
On 3/18/06, Frank W. Zammetti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Thanks Simon, I'm in the office on a Saturday, and just found out I'll > have to stay four hours longer than I expected, so I appreciate the laugh! Maybe you should write some more posts to the list and stay 2 hours more :-) Your wife wi

Re: [FRIDAY] Re: has struts reached the saturation

2006-03-18 Thread Mark Lowe
On 3/18/06, Paul Benedict <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Ted's central principle that "darwin decides" > > This is a false principle in the terms of software development. > You don't have blind forces assembling the source code of Struts, > but real living people who can see what people want and c

Re: [FRIDAY] Re: has struts reached the saturation

2006-03-18 Thread Paul Benedict
>> Ted's central principle that "darwin decides" This is a false principle in the terms of software development. You don't have blind forces assembling the source code of Struts, but real living people who can see what people want and choose to write a solution for it. People decide in ASF, not Da

Re: [FRIDAY] Re: has struts reached the saturation

2006-03-18 Thread Frank W. Zammetti
On Sat, March 18, 2006 12:14 pm, Simon Chappell said: > Oh great, now I won't be able to sleep tonight. The remorse is too > much for me to bear. :-) > > There are some places in the world where the term "man of the cloth" > is a respected term. Of course, depending on your meta-physical > perspect

Re: [FRIDAY] Re: has struts reached the saturation

2006-03-18 Thread Simon Chappell
On 3/18/06, Frank W. Zammetti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, March 18, 2006 11:21 am, Simon Chappell said: > > Or maybe I have offended Dakota by associating him with Frank? I was > > just trying to indicate that they are both willing and able to speak > > out on issues that they see. I wasn'

Re: [FRIDAY] Re: has struts reached the saturation

2006-03-18 Thread Mark Lowe
Phlogiston was an element that helped scientists explain why things burnt.. It worked for a while (the model could explain the observed phenomona) until the observation was made that when weighing the chemical products of burning found that things didn't add up. Its a good example of selection at a

Re: [FRIDAY] Re: has struts reached the saturation

2006-03-18 Thread Frank W. Zammetti
On Sat, March 18, 2006 11:21 am, Simon Chappell said: > Or maybe I have offended Dakota by associating him with Frank? I was > just trying to indicate that they are both willing and able to speak > out on issues that they see. I wasn't trying to infer that they were > cut from the same cloth! It o

Re: [FRIDAY] Re: has struts reached the saturation

2006-03-18 Thread Simon Chappell
On 3/17/06, Steve Raeburn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Simon, I think you've nicely illustrated the problem. Rather than > interpret what people have said as their honest,educated opinion, > certain people choose to interpret it as bullshit. Some people can live > in a world that has many "right" a

Re: [FRIDAY] Re: has struts reached the saturation

2006-03-18 Thread Dakota Jack
You commit one of the largest howlers on the history of this list and you just avoid it by saying this? You cannot even admit saying that committers are not elected officials was a gaff of huge proportions? What we say around here to people like this is "Man up!" On 3/17/06, Steve Raeburn <[EMA

Re: [FRIDAY] Re: has struts reached the saturation

2006-03-18 Thread Dakota Jack
What you probably mean is that "market forces" will decide, but cannot bring yourself to say "market forces". That is too "un-community" like, so Darwin decides is better? Let me make a suggestion, if only for the advancement of the clarity of thought. Let's talk about the economic pressures of

Struts CMS ?

2006-03-18 Thread Shshank Jain
Hii, Are there any Content management systems (CMS) which can be easily integrated into Struts based systems ? Presently trying to get things working with lenya. -Shanky - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additiona

Re: [FRIDAY] Re: has struts reached the saturation

2006-03-18 Thread Dakota Jack
But, Mark, a diverse "ecosystem" does not have bears and fish in the same cave. These silly analogies are just a way of avoiding talk about the real thing. Ted does that all the time, substitutes wacky philosophy for engineering and process discussions. Also, Mark, a chair, a bear, and a piece o

Re: [FRIDAY] Re: has struts reached the saturation

2006-03-18 Thread Frank W. Zammetti
Supplying the wheel, so you don't have to reinvent it! On Sat, March 18, 2006 2:14 am, Steve Raeburn said: > I think the flaw in my analogy is that nobody will starve if they choose > not to eat at the Struts shelter :-) That, and I suspect the soup is better at the Struts kitchen :) LOL Frank

Re: [FRIDAY] Re: has struts reached the saturation

2006-03-18 Thread Mark Lowe
I've stayed out of this silly thread up until now, but i guess its time to be silly as well.. Now I imagine that I'll get burned by micheal o'grady (dakota jack) for quoting this, but Ted's central principle that "darwin decides" is a sound one. Its sound because it's also a principle that doesn't