Re: OT: RE: Development philosophy and such (was: Base action class)

2005-10-10 Thread Ted Husted
On 10/7/05, Vic Cekvenich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: _Listen_ to the customer, +1 that requriements is the silver bullet. I address is w/ both mock ups and prototypes... to demonstrate active listening. In terms of requirements, my favorite silver bullet is Cockburn-style Use Cases. Looking

Re: OT: RE: Development philosophy and such (was: Base action class)

2005-10-10 Thread Leon Rosenberg
On 10/10/05, Ted Husted [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In terms of requirements, my favorite silver bullet is Cockburn-style Use Cases. Looking back over some of the requirements documents I've written over the the years, this Use Case format was my missing link. *

Re: OT: RE: Development philosophy and such (was: Base action class)

2005-10-10 Thread Michael Jouravlev
On 10/10/05, Ted Husted [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The book is quite good. Low signal to noise ratio. ? ;-) Michael. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: OT: RE: Development philosophy and such (was: Base action class)

2005-10-10 Thread Leon Rosenberg
On 10/10/05, Ted Husted [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cockburn includes examples of all that in his book. An author is just not compelled to include more detail than is needed for a particular case. Issues like granularity are a matter of taste for particular team, not an issue proscribed by the

More OT (possible rant) Re: RE: Development philosophy and such (was: Base action class)

2005-10-08 Thread Martin Gainty
be the *implementors of change* Have a good day all, Martin- - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: user@struts.apache.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 2:33 PM Subject: OT: RE: Development philosophy and such (was: Base action class) Hi Frank, Here's the thing

Re: Development philosophy and such (was: Base action class)

2005-10-07 Thread Michael Jouravlev
On 10/7/05, Frank W. Zammetti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think we unintentionally hijacked a thread, so just in case we discuss any further, a topic change is probably in order... Tell me about hijacking ;) On 10/7/05, Leon Rosenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But I'm absolutely with you, if

Re: Development philosophy and such (was: Base action class)

2005-10-07 Thread Frank W. Zammetti
On Fri, October 7, 2005 1:27 pm, Michael Jouravlev said: P.S. The last soldier's reply does not exist in original joke, but many people I told it to could not get the joke without it ;-) You really need to find some different people to talk to... the type of people that wouldn't get it without

OT: RE: Development philosophy and such (was: Base action class)

2005-10-07 Thread Dharmendra . Sharan
Message- From: Frank W. Zammetti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 1:10 PM To: Leon Rosenberg Cc: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Development philosophy and such (was: Base action class) I think we unintentionally hijacked a thread, so just in case we discuss any further

Re: OT: RE: Development philosophy and such (was: Base action class)

2005-10-07 Thread Frank W. Zammetti
On Fri, October 7, 2005 2:33 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Hi Frank, Here's the thing about technology, it *evolves*... and it comes as really odd that you *belive* that people introduce new technology solution, architecture, design changes, to just make them more market-able!!. It's not

RE: OT: RE: Development philosophy and such (was: Base action class)

2005-10-07 Thread Dharmendra . Sharan
, October 07, 2005 3:08 PM To: Struts Users Mailing List Cc: user@struts.apache.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT: RE: Development philosophy and such (was: Base action class) On Fri, October 7, 2005 2:33 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Hi Frank, Here's the thing about technology, it *evolves

RE: OT: RE: Development philosophy and such (was: Base action class)

2005-10-07 Thread Frank W. Zammetti
On Fri, October 7, 2005 4:10 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: And you are absolutely right that there is no justification for using new technology just for the heck of it... (And there is a reason some of the banks still have those mainframes lying around!.) like they say if it ain't broken,

Re: OT: RE: Development philosophy and such (was: Base action class)

2005-10-07 Thread Rafael Nami
PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 3:08 PM To: Struts Users Mailing List Cc: user@struts.apache.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT: RE: Development philosophy and such (was: Base action class) On Fri, October 7, 2005 2:33 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Hi Frank, Here's the thing

Re: OT: RE: Development philosophy and such (was: Base action class)

2005-10-07 Thread Leon Rosenberg
On 10/7/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Frank, Sorry couldn't help but remark that... it seems some people are forgetting the software engineering basics.. :) There is no silver bullet! Damned, and I actually thought I found one :-) But seriously, I think the

Re: OT: RE: Development philosophy and such (was: Base action class)

2005-10-07 Thread Vic Cekvenich
_Listen_ to the customer, +1 that requriements is the silver bullet. I address is w/ both mock ups and prototypes... to demonstrate active listening. .V http://roomity.com (version 1.3 is live) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: