Re: Picking a framework

2005-11-09 Thread Dakota Jack
I would highly suggest you look at Spring and its web framework. You may find that in the long run the .NET apps and the JSF apps are a false time saving. This will be particularly clear when your engineers have become tool jockeys who spend a lot of their work time finding new iTunes don't know ho

Re: [OT] [LYNCHMOB]Re: Picking a framework

2005-11-09 Thread Yujun Liang
Struts Development can be very simple and productive if you design a POJO based view layer. I designed a POJO based View layer, the following are the core members of the layer, Page, -- Top panel Tab, -- differentiate active tab and inactive tabs and fields on each tab Button, -- you know Field,

Re: [OT] Re: Picking a framework

2005-11-09 Thread Frank W. Zammetti
Hey, your talking to an MCP and MCSD here! I'm already straddling the fence :) Actually, I can't remember the last time I did anything more than a trivial project with any MS technology. So no, I think I'll stick around a bit longer :) I just didn't know they had been ported. That *us* interes

Re: [OT] Re: Picking a framework

2005-11-09 Thread Michael Jouravlev
Want to jump the ship? ;-) On 11/9/05, Frank W. Zammetti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Cool! I had no idea, thanks! > > -- > Frank W. Zammetti > Founder and Chief Software Architect > Omnytex Technologies > http://www.omnytex.com > AIM: fzammetti > Yahoo: fzammetti > MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > On

Re: [OT] Re: Picking a framework

2005-11-09 Thread Frank W. Zammetti
Cool! I had no idea, thanks! -- Frank W. Zammetti Founder and Chief Software Architect Omnytex Technologies http://www.omnytex.com AIM: fzammetti Yahoo: fzammetti MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Wed, November 9, 2005 1:27 pm, Larry Meadors said: > Yes. > > On 11/9/05, Frank W. Zammetti <[EMAIL PROTEC

Re: [OT] Re: Picking a framework

2005-11-09 Thread Larry Meadors
Yes. On 11/9/05, Frank W. Zammetti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, November 9, 2005 1:14 pm, Ted Husted said: > > We use Subversion for version control, MySQL for the > > database, iBATIS for the data access layer, and Spring.Web for > > dependency injection. > > Are there iBATIS and Spring p

Re: [OT] Re: Picking a framework

2005-11-09 Thread Frank W. Zammetti
On Wed, November 9, 2005 1:14 pm, Ted Husted said: > We use Subversion for version control, MySQL for the > database, iBATIS for the data access layer, and Spring.Web for > dependency injection. Are there iBATIS and Spring ports to .Net? Frank

Re: [OT] Re: Picking a framework

2005-11-09 Thread Ted Husted
On 11/9/05, Dave Newton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Believe me, I have little love for the .NET development experience > (although C# is pretty nice as "normal" languages go) but... I've been working in .NET for about a year and a half now. Once we started to ignore the usual examples and try to

[OT] [LYNCHMOB]Re: Picking a framework

2005-11-09 Thread Dave Newton
Michael Jouravlev wrote: On 11/9/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Anyway, now we're moving to a new J2EE development environment and trying to decide how to build apps going forward Struts is the logical choice because we know it. However, one of the big issues we have with S

Re: Picking a framework

2005-11-09 Thread Michael Jouravlev
On 11/9/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Anyway, now we're moving to a new J2EE development environment and trying > to decide how to build apps going forward Struts is the logical choice > because we know it. However, one of the big issues we have with Struts > right now is that

Re: Picking a framework

2005-11-09 Thread Ted Husted
In your situation, you probably want to have a look at Struts Shale and Java Server Faces. JSF is similar to .NET. * http://struts.apache.org/shale/index.html * http://jsfcentral.com/ Shale is still pre-1.0, but I understand the essential features are in the nightly build. Meanwhile, some of us

Picking a framework

2005-11-09 Thread pantichd
Hello, I realize that this is not the most unbiased group : )  but it seems to be a very sensible and well behaved (no nasty name calling like you find on some other groups). So I'm hoping not to get beat up when I ask this. We have been using Struts for about 4 years now and we've never updated