RE: struts1 or struts 2?

2007-08-10 Thread Asthana, Rahul
Mailing List Subject: Re: struts1 or struts 2? On Thu, August 9, 2007 8:24 am, Ted Husted wrote: IMHO, if we had today's JavaScript/CSS/HTML environment available to us in 1998, then JSP, ASP, JSF, PHP, and all the rest of it, would not exist. We did all these things to make up

Re: struts1 or struts 2?

2007-08-10 Thread Frank W. Zammetti
Asthana, Rahul wrote: By the way, have any of you done any performance metrics on an ajax based implementation vs a non ajax based one? Early on we did a proof-of-concept that did exactly this... what we found was that the AJAX version was universally perceived as being faster, even when a

Re: struts1 or struts 2?

2007-08-09 Thread Ted Husted
On 8/8/07, Asthana, Rahul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Besides,I was also interested in how things like workflow are handled in an AJAX based framework, as opposed to a webapp that happens to use AJAX . Conventional web applications tend to use a different page for each top-level view. If we are

Re: struts1 or struts 2?

2007-08-09 Thread Frank W. Zammetti
On Thu, August 9, 2007 8:24 am, Ted Husted wrote: IMHO, if we had today's JavaScript/CSS/HTML environment available to us in 1998, then JSP, ASP, JSF, PHP, and all the rest of it, would not exist. We did all these things to make up for the shortcomings of the client-side environment, and,

Re: struts1 or struts 2?

2007-08-08 Thread Ted Husted
On 8/7/07, Frank W. Zammetti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Then again, if I *really* had my druthers, I'd use DWR for everything on the back-end and pick best-of-breed widgets on the UI to construct my own client-side framework... the last project I did more or less did this, although we used S1

RE: struts1 or struts 2?

2007-08-08 Thread Asthana, Rahul
: struts1 or struts 2? On 8/7/07, Frank W. Zammetti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Then again, if I *really* had my druthers, I'd use DWR for everything on the back-end and pick best-of-breed widgets on the UI to construct my own client-side framework... the last project I did more or less did

RE: struts1 or struts 2?

2007-08-08 Thread Frank W. Zammetti
? Thanks Rahul -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ted Husted Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2007 12:27 PM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Re: struts1 or struts 2? On 8/7/07, Frank W. Zammetti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Then again, if I

Re: struts1 or struts 2?

2007-08-08 Thread Paul Benedict
I have JavaScript, DOM Scripting and Ajax Projects -- good book for people who want to get into AJAX. On 8/8/07, Frank W. Zammetti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not specifically, no... although, both of my books go into this sort of thing, and the first one includes a DWR-based project. I'm also

Re: struts1 or struts 2?

2007-08-08 Thread Frank W. Zammetti
Thanks Paul... The envelope is in the mail! wink-wink/ :) Frank -- Frank W. Zammetti Founder and Chief Software Architect Omnytex Technologies http://www.omnytex.com AIM/Yahoo: fzammetti MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Author of Practical Ajax Projects With Java Technology (2006, Apress, ISBN

RE: struts1 or struts 2?

2007-08-08 Thread Asthana, Rahul
PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2007 2:13 PM To: Struts Users Mailing List Cc: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Re: struts1 or struts 2? Thanks Paul... The envelope is in the mail! wink-wink/ :) Frank -- Frank W. Zammetti Founder and Chief Software Architect Omnytex Technologies http

Re: struts1 or struts 2?

2007-08-07 Thread Antonio Petrelli
2007/8/7, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]: - For the job market, which one is in higher demand? It depends on the nation, I suppose. In Italy, there are lots of requests for Struts 1 (in fact they still call it Jakarta Struts, and Struts 1.1 is still in use, poor Italy :-) ) Antonio

Re: struts1 or struts 2?

2007-08-07 Thread Piero Sartini
- For a new project, which I would like to eventually move it to JSF? choose the technology (component based or action based) before choosing the framework. if you want to go for a component based approach like JSF then choose a framework like Apache Shale or JBoss Seam. Even VWP may be

Re: struts1 or struts 2?

2007-08-07 Thread Frank W. Zammetti
Not just poor Italy... my experience has been that this isn't uncommon in the United States either, and anecdotally in other countries as well... in fact, I'm willing to say that S1 usage, and even 1.1 usage, is still the most common Struts usage world-wide. Dunno where it'll be a year from now