Re: [FRIDAY] Why isn't Java Open Source?

groovy! .V Frank W. Zammetti wrote: Oh no... here we go :) LOL - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [OT] Stinking IDEs

enough! only on fridays. and if particapate! .V - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [OT] Re: Unacceptable Behaviour of Mark Galbreath

On 6/30/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ... give Niall a break. Niall is one of the most helpful people I've ever met online. +1 .V - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e

[FRIDAY all week] Re: Struts Books Recommendations

Thai Dang Vu wrote: So, I can get a H1B just by learning Struts and use it decently? :) I heard if you *know OF* Swing, while you wash your hair, it can paint your house. .V - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Struts vs .NET???

Lets say it's true. Maybe you should check the asp list for that tool. .V Rafael Taboada wrote: Hi folks I've been reading all mails about VS.NET . I have a question. Is it true that software in ASP.NET is faster than in Struts???.. HOw true is this opinion? I

[FRIDAY] Re: Unacceptable Behaviour of Mark Galbreath

David G. Friedman wrote: I *did* think Mark was bad until I read a post from Ilias Lazaridis on the netbeans list. we seem to have a fascination w/ a trainwreck. .V - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For addition

Re: Struts vs .NET???

Rick Reumann wrote: John Henry Xu wrote the following on 6/30/2005 11:49 PM: you spend lots of time on getters and setters. You can use stuts w/ collections, maps, lists. I used to. No need for beans (I used own "baseBeans" and got rid of it when I found collections superior). For example mut

Re: Struts vs .NET???

Suppose your department used to spend 10 million dollars a year, now you need 15 million dollars to do the same work. So good GUIs to automate repeatable codes are neccessary to cut those 5 million dollars. Jack H. Xu Technology columnist and editor Ahh.. you are an editor... and not a

Re: Struts vs .NET???

John Henry Xu wrote: V., in any cases of programming, more lines and more classes means more work and more money. Don't you agree? Jack H. Xu Technology columnist and editor Unless I do fixed bid. Or have my own software company... where you try to reduce costs. So we only do things that r

Re: Struts vs .NET???

John Henry Xu wrote: code which can be automated by GUI and tools. Microsoft usually do this job better. Hope we learn from them. Jack H. Xu I am sure you write better than me. Look at it this way, you could be a sports journalist and I could be a pro basketball player, and you are writing

Re: Struts vs .NET???

Yan Hu wrote: How long did it take you to be this productive? Obviously, you are expensive for all the hard work you did in the past. But a bum who needs only 10 dollars hours could do the same thing with FrontPage as you would. Why would I pay you 50 dollars an hours to just draw a couple of

Re: Struts vs .NET???

John Henry Xu wrote: .V, I was working on Java until I became a manager. Hmmm. In struts and EJB, lots of codes fit into patterns and can be automated. If you think automating code generation is your best skill, go for it. It's telling that you selected EJB. You can generate more code

Re: Struts vs .NET??? -> Real Stats

Gregory Seidman wrote: Of course, I can't make any guarantees on how much traffic these sites get. They are, however, pretty popular. This is a good list: http://www.alexa.com/site/ds/top_500 So it this: http://news.netcraft.com/archives/web_server_survey.html In this 2nd you can see that MS

Re: Struts vs .NET???

Gregory Seidman wrote: You clearly missed my post on the advantages C# has over Java Clearly you are missing that we, users of Apache software, *don't care* which is better. news flash: We use both. A large chunk of people here also sigh up for iBatis DAO, we use both C# and Java. http:/

Re: Struts vs .NET???

John Henry Xu wrote: So tell me what does the owner of your company think most important? He is probably thinking how to get rid of ineffective managers. What is your agenda, to come tell us your's is bigger? There are plenty of large Struts sites, if that is what your aim was: http://wiki

Re: R: Struts vs .NET???

Simone - Dev wrote: For my point of view the differences between the 2 platforms are nil... (ok, one has that, the other has something else, but generally speaking they are the same) +1 While setting up Eclipse, to debug Struts application with Apache Tomcat is a pain... -1. It just not

Re: IDE Wars (was Struts vs World)

Craig McClanahan wrote: From a personal perspective, I was a die hard Emacs user until about a year ago, when IDEs finally started getting to the point where they could make *me* more productive. http://www.jroller.com/page/fate/20050305 I quote above bile: "JSF is NOT for real java develop

Re: IDE Wars (was Struts vs World)

Craig McClanahan wrote: to linking to it for entertainment value :-). Can anyone here remember any other case? Even if it's not the first, it is still ridiculous enough to be memorialized :-). Is there a shipping produciton app done w/ UI? > C'mon Vic ... you know the answer to that questi

Re:M Galbreath

We all all sincererly very sorry, we just wanted a slap on the wrist from all the noise. .V Mark Galbreath wrote: Thanks to whomever emailed last weeks nonsense thread to the Director of the Board of Elections. It made me look like a racist and I was fired this morning. The State is also lo

ot: Struts 1.3

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Re: Spring

David Whipple wrote: We use it for the primarily for application assembly and integration with iBATIS. The rap on Spring is that it's a bit more complicated than Struts. It does have a dao interfcace, and... Struts does not. A big benefit is that you can switch from EJB to something else.

Re: Spring

Alternatively, you could consider population of the chain Context to be roughly "application assembly" -- but the commons-chain library doesn't really provide much support for setting up a complicated Context. I know, but even digester lets me assemble objects. And hivemind. I do wish St

Re: [OT] Re: Fired???? was...Re: Struts Books Recommendations [OT]

Andrew Tomaka wrote the following on 7/8/2005 2:29 PM: in the past few weeks, it's all gone downhill. A good percentage of threads are now off-topic; not off topic like discussing the pros and cons of using an IDE, but off topic like what an H1B is and personal thoughts on outsourcing. I'm

Re: Using struts forms as Value Objects: your opinion?

of course... I use Collections (Maps and Lists) as VO/DTO. You can wrap them w/ DynaMaps, you can validate a map, you don't have to maintain deprecated gets/sets, it reduces duplication... your dao can return a map/collection/list... I think it vastly simplifies to use Maps in places where

Re: Using struts forms as Value Objects: your opinion?

Rick Reumann wrote: How does a developer working on your code know how to even get the properties out of your Map? I guess he has to look at some API contract saying put date of birth in the Map as "dob" not "dateOfBirth." As in iBatis, name of the map property is in my case the field name in

Re: Using struts forms as Value Objects: your opinion?

Larry Meadors wrote: Hmm, of course, who needs things like refactoring, and compile time name and type checking? That's why you have users, eh? They'll find the bugs eventually. ;-) Larry Get/Set, Get/Set Half the time I have no idea what the db date will come back as. Look, I think som

Re: Using struts forms as Value Objects: your opinion?

Rick Reumann wrote: They have to look at a database model in order to figure out how to get back a dateOfBirth field? Yup. Each develolper has a 24" poster of the data model. DBA is in charge, Model Driven. Just like client server days. Now they want to iterate over this list and display

Re: Using struts forms as Value Objects: your opinion?

Rick Reumann wrote: Call me stupid but I don't even know what p-langs are (languages I can urinate on?:) lol. PHP (Friendster tried J2EE, went to PHP). Part of LAMP stack, conisdered most effective. Try Tiki-Wiki or Drupal when you get a project, you are 80% done. Python (used by Google

Re: Using struts forms as Value Objects: your opinion?

Rivka Shisman wrote: Is it crucial for the Action Form to have String properties? Yes. Http/html is a String protocol. A user types in a string in your forms (unless it's a callendar tag for dates) rambles on: Only exception is if you have R/O, only getters, that you would not even nee

Re: Struts 1.2 v 1.3

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ted, is there a list of tasks for 1.3? By "volunteer", are you referring only to current Struts committers? Anyone can edit / search bugzila. Anyone can post a "diff" to code. Only a comiter can ... comit code. (you become a comiter when comiters get tired of comitin

Re: Releasing 1.3 [was: Re: Struts 1.2 v 1.3]

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[FRIDAY OT ANN] My new project is beta

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Re: [FRIDAY OT ANN] My new project is beta

We still have some JNI issues in Mac. :-( .V Simon Chappell wrote: I tried it on my Mac (OS X 10.3.9) and while it triggered the JNLP download, nothing happened after that. Bummer. :-( Simon On 7/15/05, netsql <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: roomity.com to check it out. it should he

Re: [FRIDAY OT ANN] My new project is beta

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Re: [FRIDAY] What technology do you use for authentication and authorization?

Craig McClanahan wrote: http://weblogs.java.net/blog/gmurray71/archive/2005/07/got_servlets.html My particular question (well, questions :-) for the Struts community: * What technology do you currently use for authentication and authorization in your web applications? I used JDBC relms

Re: [FRIDAY] What technology do you use for authentication and authorization?

Sergey Livanov wrote: In my project authentication and authorization are performed by certificates. Help me, please, to find right way to define WHos is logged on and What they are doing by JMX . 1. get a jmx tools servlet to work... it should display all jmx refistered objects and settings

Re: Struts 1.2 v 1.3

What does 1.3 bring to the party? I know there will be with the composable request processor and commons chain integration. What other innovations are there in the new version? I think they also said Struts 1.3 will also be built using JDK 1.4 and to Servlet 2.3. So during evoltion, some th

Re: whats new with struts?? no beta for download

Ashish Kulkarni wrote: Hello I have been using struts for a while now, when will be the next release of struts I belive that you have been using Struts for a while. That's why you know the answer to you question as to when. You can get any version or variation of Struts using T

Re: Copying of properties vs. nested VO

Michael Jouravlev wrote: I am not convinced that UI should be *that* different from domain model. +1. Example: You make a html mock up an go to contract, then do ren *.html to *.jsp for prototype. Beased on your approved prototype your most senior desigs a domain model! Domain Model is m

Re: [OT] Secure Email w/ java

Glen Mazza wrote: If you don't get a good answer here I would check \ SUn's mail mail list or jakrta commons (email) jar. .V project--ML's, docs, etc. Glen Brian McGovern wrote: Sorry for the off topic, but hopefully someone here has done this before. Im using a tomcat smtp resource a

Re: Hi-New to this group

I used JDBC realms for security. I tend to avoid EJB, even v 3 (it does not support collection) but EJB 3 is not bad (unlike 2.1.. it is bad). You can run 500 concurnet users on an old laptop, I my tests I get over $2K per CPU on older servers. What stress testing tool do you plan to use? .V

Re: Hi-New to this group

I think there is a Struts wiki page for this also. .V Maya menon wrote: If any one has any sample implementations using ibatis / hibernate, please send them to me. It would be really helpful - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMA

Re: Hi-New to this group

Rick's home page has one. .V Maya menon wrote: If any one has any sample implementations using ibatis / hibernate, please send them to me. It would be really helpful - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For addition

Re: Polymorphism

... ah... Formbeans extend ... and so do actions ... Then it pick the user implementations and executes. .V syed abrar wrote: Hello All This question might look some what stupid,but it is important for me..How is Polymorphism implemented in struts If any of you guys knows the answ

Re: [OT] Hibernate vs. iBatis vs. POJO

Ted Husted wrote: People can make any system work, but they have to *want* to make it work. That is deep! And very true. .V - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [OT] Struts and Content Management

Daniel Henrique Ferreira e Silva wrote: Hi BHansard, Do you really have to stick to Java for a CMS? If, and only if, java is not mandatory for your project, i'd go for Zope + Plone. Or PHP like drupal, tiki-wiki, etc. Html works best on p-langs imo. (which is why I wrote a webstart) .V -

Re: [OT] Hibernate vs. iBatis vs. POJO

Frank W. Zammetti wrote: It has not been unusual to estimate three months for something, and that's fairly realistic to do it right, and the business says "nope, 1.5 months is when we need it". I need you to paint the house, but I only have budget to wash my hair? That is no respect and a bi

Re: [OT] Hibernate vs. iBatis vs. POJO

Stéphane Zuckerman wrote: Larry Meadors a écrit : I agree with previous comments saying that Hibernate is useful if your project is quite large. Otherwise, the time taken to set it up would be better used to do something else. It does add some complexity when thinking through a new project, a

Re: [OT] Hibernate vs. iBatis vs. POJO

I used iBatis 2 w/ 7000 concurent users and subsecond response time (each users requested data from a page that had many tiles, 1up.com) It's much faster than others becuase of a simple row based cache. I am one of few SQL instructors certified to teach P&T, I would argue it's by far the most

Re: [OT] Hibernate vs. iBatis vs. POJO

Leon Rosenberg wrote: I think the sentence "clustering will help you scaling" is an urban myth :-) Leon +1 -- .V People are conversing... without posting their email or filling up their mail box. roomity.com No sign up to read and search. -

Re: JSF is the beginning of the end of Struts !!!

John Public wrote: After just finishing my JSF class, I can confidently confirm that JSF will eventually lead to Struts becoming OBSOLETE. :-) Enhydra and Torque would say that too circa 2001. Put up a site and lets see it. Let's all get behind JSF before MS takes over the web. Nothing wr

Re: JSF is the beginning of the end of Struts !!!

Mark Benussi wrote: I have never done any PHP so I can't comment, but agree with the previous comments in so far as Struts/Java/Servlets is for large applications. I would not build a suite of actions and database pooling for my old mans plane photos web site. You may be just repeating the

Re: JSF is the beginning of the end of Struts !!!

Mark Benussi wrote: Is it marketing hype to state that Struts/Java/Servlets is for large applications and I would not build a suite of actions and database pooling for my old mans plane photos web site Why would you say that? .V ---

Re: JSF is the beginning of the end of Struts !!!

John Henry Xu wrote: You are right. I worked on Java and hope Java success. That is the reason my links are java-based. I just want see more sites written in Java. That is why I think in Java world, we need more doers than talkers. If more java programmers code complex sites, java could compete

Re: JSF is the beginning of the end of Struts !!!

news to some: http://bugs.sakaiproject.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=4981 I think it was said "us Java dudes" should talk less and produce apps more in this thread, which is what I said +1 too. It's hard to debate PHP vs Java on the server, which is better, which is bigger... bla,

Re: [OT] Hibernate vs. iBatis vs. POJO

Hernandez, Mariano wrote: we use EJBs, although I and a colleague have tried to persuade our architech to use ANYTHING other than EJBs. Consider having a email "Dear Achitect, thanks for meeting w/ us, we brought you some good reasons not to use EJB; we understand you do want to use them".

Re: what is M (of MVC) in struts

The form"Bean". ;-) it maps to html form. .V Carl Smith wrote: Struts privide strong C (of MVC) components, tyical of which are ActionServlet, Actions and RequestProcessors, but I am wondering which part is the M (of MVC). Thanks. __ Do You Y

Re: what is M (of MVC) in struts

Joe Germuska wrote: Struts does not provide any part of the "M" (Model). oh yeah, that's right. .V - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [STRUTS 2X]: Ideas

Frank W. Zammetti wrote: See, now it gets interesting because debate starts :) I would say that key for any "new" framework is that it has to default to client side rendering of ui. DHTML/Ajax ... or others ;-) And then as option be able to do server side generated UI. .V roomity.com -

Re: [STRUTS 2X]: Ideas

Frank W. Zammetti wrote: what does it really mean for them to be rendered client-side and where does DHTML/Ajax fit in? DHTML renders client side(w Ajax RCP). Flex/Lazlo. Swing. XUL. X-Forms? .V - To unsubscribe, e-mail:

[OT ANN] Roomity mail lists version 1.0

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Why obtusify

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[OT] {BEER] commercial J2EE application server recommendations.

J2EE App Servers: Resin, Tomcat, Orion DB: MySQL, PostgresSQL, Sybase ASA (not ASE) Framework: APache/iBatis PetStore good luck. .V People are conversing... without posting their email or fi

AW: Nice try (was Java code generator including Struts 1.2)

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Re: Nice try (was Java code generator including Struts 1.2)

I think Swing is easy if you MVC. For example don't do inner classes and listners to this. Just separate out your action from the relizer. .V Frank W. Zammetti wrote: No argument here... Swing is a pain in the arse under the best of conditions. Frank Michael Jouravlev wrote: Apparently,

Should I use JSTL 1.1 & struts taglibs or JSTL 1.0 & struts-el taglibs?

W/ Tomcat 5 (Servlet 2.4) you should use latest JSTL and regualr Struts tags. You would only use Struts-el tags w/ Servlet 2.3. .V People are conversing... without posting their email or filli

Re: [OT] Swing, was Re: Nice try (was Java code generator including Struts 1.2)

Yan Hu wrote: But java is perhaps not suitable for fat client - type apps while it is a great language for the server side. Dave Newton wrote: How is it "not suitable" for fat clients? Yan Hu wrote: How many huge apps are written in Java Swing and how many are in C++,C or even

[FRIDAY] Link to "Don't use Struts" ;-)

http://jroller.com/page/RickHigh?entry=don_t_use_struts_on1 I think it funny. Be basicly says use anything but Struts. Anyday now, we will find a good excuse why it's # 1. I read someplace: "They chose Struts becuase they already had it, otherwise they would have used XYZ. But when we a new pro

Re: [OT] Tomcat, JAAS and Kerberos

1st answer is I duno. But... JAAS I think acts a bit like a filter, it just gets called. In your web-xml you tell it what url you want secured and somehow map how the users see it. Bea site has a good doc on web.xml. So I assume that when you get to the secure url, those classes fire and see

Re: [OT] Reasonable implementation time guesstimates

I guess some of this is ot, but you said any comments. In my shop lead enginers are most productive coders ( I measure LC via CVS stats) and also get to... lead the project. (I have no project managers, who'd respect them?). This is how I size my projects. Most similar is Scrum (minus scrum

Re: Struts weaknesses question

Frank W. Zammetti wrote: ... these are applications that don't necessarily flow from page to page, instead the user can navigate them at will, more or less. "Events" that occur on the client-side don't automatically have to result in a whole new page being rendered (and this DOES NOT require A

Re: Tiles standalone jar

So 1.3 is NOT using the standalone tiles but the old tiles? .V Craig McClanahan wrote: Be warned, however, that a couple of changes in the Struts 1.3 version of Tiles have not yet been ported over ... I hope to do that this weekend.

Ann: Book softcopy in wiki

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Re:How to Debug easier

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Re: [JSF] using a jsp:forward to get to backing bean method?

Rick, consider trying Faclets (from Java.net) w/ Struts Ti (from Dev List) combo; that may be more powerfull and more teachable. .V Rick Reumann wrote: David Haynes wrote the following on 8/22/2005 4:19 PM: I'm just fumbling my way through like most others... Trust me you don't want me a

Re: Shale/JSF/Java posts

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rick Reumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 08/25/2005 01:55:04 PM: Would starting up a separate shale mailing list be a bad idea? Defintely +1 for this idea. And now, for a comercial: I'd mirror it or start it in 2 minutes RiA, ex, click http://struts.roomit

Re: OT: Design Issue.

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Re: Struts Documentation

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Re: Select Options Question

e the volume of users that will use this application). Any other suggestions? -- thx, .V Broadband interface (RIA) + mail box safety = Roomity.com <http://roomity.com/demo.jsp> *Your* clubs, no sign up to read, ad supported; try broadband internet. cell: 917 825 3035 in DFW email: netsql at

Re: OT: Good Java host

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Shocking about Netbeans 4.2

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Re: Shocking about Netbeans 4.2

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Re: basics of struts

probs. Any idea wat setting I hav missed. I have set the classpath variable to sturts.jar file and am running tomcat server. Thanks for any kinda help. -- thx, .V roomity.com is the broadband portal <http://roomity.com/demo.jsp> cell: 917 825 3035 in DFW email: netsql at

Re: basics of struts

hell wrote: Someone should recheck the link from the wiki page, it points to "World Health Organization (WHO) HIV/AIDS Toolkits on the Web and CD-ROM", which I doubt was the intended target. Thanks. -- James Mitchell On Sep 5, 2005, at 8:58 AM, netsql wrote: There is a 30 hou

Re: Who decides?

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Re: [OT] Struts Approach

I call them API ex: http://www.sandrasf.com/other/sandra/javadoc/index.html?org/sandra/api/package-summary.html and Impl. .V Larry Meadors wrote: At any rate, it boils down to personal preference. As the tech lead where I work, I would publicly flog anyone who committed a ICustomerDao class to my C

chain article

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Re: Struts DB Access :: Best Practices

Larry Meadors wrote: - iBATIS has a lot of options to use JavaBeans, which I don't find useful. I just take parameters in a java.util.Map and return a java.sql.ResultSet directly. (I'm a DynaActionForm kind of guy, so using a form bean form this would be a little out of place.) OK, now I have to

Re: Struts DB Access :: Best Practices

Joe Hertz wrote: The point is... I use ArrayList of Maps now for my DTO,VO and ever as a message object for WS/SOA. Wherever I used to use a bean, now I use a collection, and I like DynaMaps. I think I'm buying what you say in a big kinda way. Cool. I worked for years in an architecture that esc

Re: Struts DB Access :: Best Practices

Scott Lamb wrote: NetSQL wrote: (RowSet is realy a ArrayList of HashMaps. Rows of Columns) What does a ArrayList of HashMaps get you over a java.sql.ResultSet? Collections are lighter and easier to SoA. I look at it like this: -SQL is a Set oriented lang.(row by row processing is exponentialy

Re: Of Struts and Tiles and Portals

Google on Tiles 101 and 201 artilces. 1up.com is a portal done in struts, you can see like 12 tiles per page (it has 100s of pages and each of the 12 tiles per page is CMS db driven, ex: top 10 games in category) It was done open source projeect basicPortal (if you have a big struts project and

Re: Struts Business Logic :: Best Practices

I used Hivemind and switch to CoR, which I consider a light weight container. Good article on CoR at onJava.com. .V Manfred Wolff wrote: Ted. +1 to this approach. I prefer leightweight container such as hivemind to manage the entrypoints to the business logic. Hivemind is easy to learn and you

Re: Typical Struts development team and distribution of tasks?

Radu Badita wrote: At 21:35 11.03.2005, you wrote: You can't get any closer than the two being the same person! :-) We have three Java/Web/SQL developers. We all pretty much have our hands in all of the layers of the application code, from SQL and PL/SQL all the way to HTML and JavaScript. Yeah

Re: Typical Struts development team and distribution of tasks?

Leon Rosenberg wrote: *ROFL* I hope the one real developer is the worst payed... To make the case complete :-) He's the lose canon! Allways downloading 3rd party jars instead of writing own code. And he can't even do his time card on time. ;-) Oh... if anyone fits that category in Dallas, and kn

Re: BRANCH: Typical Struts development team and distribution of tasks?

Larry Meadors wrote: After all that, I have to ask: Why should I bother? I tried it, I really did. In fact, I tried it several times. Each time, I got a little further before deciding there was too much pain involved to make it "easier" for me. So I switched to iBATIS . +1 for iBatis as faste

ann?: Linux Distro includes... Struts (and Tomcat and Eclipse)

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Re: Is It Possible to Code Using Struts and JSF at the Same Time?

Craig McClanahan wrote: I would caution new projects, however, to *not* use the Struts HTML tags. That part of Struts has received fairly little developer attention, and should be considered legacy at this point. I would disagree. JSTL replaced some tag, but HTML tag is IMO best practice and pro

Re: Is It Possible to Code Using Struts and JSF at the Same Time?

Frank W. Zammetti wrote: It strikes me as nothing more than a bunch of marketing-speak in place of substantive discussion. I agree. I also respect and admire Craig and know that he has indirectly put money in my pocket. But... he has an itch for JSF and he will go that way, and it's a loss for

Re: [Shale]: , , DialogController and Tiles

Craig McClanahan wrote: I'm quite intrigued by the Web Flow project in Swing's sandbox ... Not Swing. Spring or Don Brown's Ajax-Strtus sandbox I assume are both called "Flow". ( I am glad it's in the back of your mind Freud. XUL, Flex, XAML, Ajax (aka DHTML), JDNC all render on the client and im

Re: [Shale]: , , DialogController and Tiles

Craig McClanahan wrote: And there's even JSF components around that do this sort of thing too :-). AFAIK JSF was not designed for client rendering (hence "Server" faces, not "Client" faces). It can be done in the same way one can get JSP or Servlet API to render on the Client. Please somone corr

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