Re: OM 5 - Userlist, only visible for moderator/admin

[Maxim Solodovnik]

the fix for 5.0.x should be in build #2798+
Fix for 4.0.9 will be postponed for a while ...

On Tue, 2 Apr 2019 at 13:26, René Scholz
 wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I try (and I hope its successful) to write this in JIRA.
> (After a hint from Maxim I know what JIRA is. Thanks.)
>
> What do you think about the period? Not exactly, days, weeks, month, years...
> When this feature is implemented I want to make a try with a "higher" 
> quantity of persons.
> (higher =~ 50).
>
> Best regards,
>
> René
>
>
>
> Am 02.04.2019 um 07:37 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>
> I guess it might be misleading to get list of 1 participant and let's say 5 
> video pods :)))
> But if this feature request is supported by community I can add it :)
>
> Could you please file JIRA?
>
> On Tue, 2 Apr 2019 at 04:55, BBS Technik  wrote:
>>
>> this functionality is also available in commercial products such as webex.
>> best regards
>>
>> Ed
>>
>>
>> Gesendet: Montag, 01. April 2019 um 20:48 Uhr
>> Von: "R. Scholz" 
>> An: user@openmeetings.apache.org
>> Betreff: Re: OM 5 - Userlist, only visible for moderator/admin
>> Hello Maxim,
>>
>> in my opinion it is not a "fake" or a "false information".
>> When I make a "webinar" I think it is not necessary that all viewer can see 
>> how many and who is viewing.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> René
>>
>>
>> Am 01.04.2019 um 14:57 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>
>> So it will be "fake user list", not "hidden user list" 
>> not sure it is good idea to display false information
>>
>> Maybe others have some thoughts on topic?
>>
>> On Mon, 1 Apr 2019 at 19:54, René Scholz  
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello Maxim,
>>>
>>> it's not necessary to hide the userlist completely.
>>> It will be enough when the the user only see himself in the list. And the 
>>> moderator (admin?) see the complete list.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> René
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 01.04.2019 um 14:17 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>
>>> Hello René,
>>>
>>> It is currently impossible to hide user list
>>> And, to be fair, I see no way how this can be implemented: currently 
>>> buttons to start/stop audio/video stream and to request ant rights are 
>>> located on sidebar
>>> In case user list and files area will be hidden - sidebar also need to be 
>>> removed
>>>
>>> Maybe you can share some picture demonstration how this could look like?
>>>
>>> On Mon, 1 Apr 2019 at 01:45, R. Scholz  
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> yesterday I had installed the newest Snapshot  of OM5.
>>>>
>>>> Fantastic the "step-by-step-installation-manual" from Alvaro. Easy to
>>>> understand, without problems. Very very Nice!
>>>> And Maxim: I remembered our discussion in the past about "Flash or not
>>>> to be (Flash)": Very good work from you.
>>>> With the WebRTC OM is prepared for the future.
>>>>
>>>> Today I tried to configure a room where only the moderator can see the
>>>> userlist. All other members shoulöd not see which other persons are online.
>>>>
>>>> I have a look into the "hidden room elements" in the room-configuration.
>>>> But the userlist is not one of the elements I can hide.
>>>>
>>>> Have anyone an idea?
>>>>
>>>> With best rergards,
>>>>
>>>> René
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> WBR
>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> WBR
>> Maxim aka solomax
>
>
>
> --
> WBR
> Maxim aka solomax
>
>


-- 
WBR
Maxim aka solomax

Re: OM 5 - Userlist, only visible for moderator/admin

[Maxim Solodovnik]

Will try to do it right after M1 release
seems to be simple enough :)

On Tue, 2 Apr 2019 at 13:26, René Scholz 
wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I try (and I hope its successful) to write this in JIRA.
> (After a hint from Maxim I know what JIRA is. Thanks.)
>
> What do you think about the period? Not exactly, days, weeks, month,
> years...
> When this feature is implemented I want to make a try with a "higher"
> quantity of persons.
> (higher =~ 50).
>
> Best regards,
>
> René
>
>
>
> Am 02.04.2019 um 07:37 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>
> I guess it might be misleading to get list of 1 participant and let's say
> 5 video pods :)))
> But if this feature request is supported by community I can add it :)
>
> Could you please file JIRA?
>
> On Tue, 2 Apr 2019 at 04:55, BBS Technik  wrote:
>
>> this functionality is also available in commercial products such as webex.
>> best regards
>>
>> Ed
>>
>>
>> *Gesendet:* Montag, 01. April 2019 um 20:48 Uhr
>> *Von:* "R. Scholz" 
>> *An:* user@openmeetings.apache.org
>> *Betreff:* Re: OM 5 - Userlist, only visible for moderator/admin
>> Hello Maxim,
>>
>> in my opinion it is not a "fake" or a "false information".
>> When I make a "webinar" I think it is not necessary that all viewer can
>> see how many and who is viewing.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> René
>>
>>
>> Am 01.04.2019 um 14:57 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>
>> So it will be "fake user list", not "hidden user list" 
>> not sure it is good idea to display false information
>>
>> Maybe others have some thoughts on topic?
>>
>> On Mon, 1 Apr 2019 at 19:54, René Scholz <
>> rene.sch...@abakus-edv-systems.de> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello Maxim,
>>>
>>> it's not necessary to hide the userlist completely.
>>> It will be enough when the the user only see himself in the list. And
>>> the moderator (admin?) see the complete list.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> René
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 01.04.2019 um 14:17 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>
>>> Hello René,
>>>
>>> It is currently impossible to hide user list
>>> And, to be fair, I see no way how this can be implemented: currently
>>> buttons to start/stop audio/video stream and to request ant rights are
>>> located on sidebar
>>> In case user list and files area will be hidden - sidebar also need to
>>> be removed
>>>
>>> Maybe you can share some picture demonstration how this could look like?
>>>
>>> On Mon, 1 Apr 2019 at 01:45, R. Scholz <
>>> rene.sch...@abakus-edv-systems.de> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> yesterday I had installed the newest Snapshot  of OM5.
>>>>
>>>> Fantastic the "step-by-step-installation-manual" from Alvaro. Easy to
>>>> understand, without problems. Very very Nice!
>>>> And Maxim: I remembered our discussion in the past about "Flash or not
>>>> to be (Flash)": Very good work from you.
>>>> With the WebRTC OM is prepared for the future.
>>>>
>>>> Today I tried to configure a room where only the moderator can see the
>>>> userlist. All other members shoulöd not see which other persons are
>>>> online.
>>>>
>>>> I have a look into the "hidden room elements" in the room-configuration.
>>>> But the userlist is not one of the elements I can hide.
>>>>
>>>> Have anyone an idea?
>>>>
>>>> With best rergards,
>>>>
>>>> René
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> WBR
>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> WBR
>> Maxim aka solomax
>>
>>
>
> --
> WBR
> Maxim aka solomax
>
>
>

-- 
WBR
Maxim aka solomax

Re: Re: OM 5 - Userlist, only visible for moderator/admin

[Maxim Solodovnik]

I guess it might be misleading to get list of 1 participant and let's say 5
video pods :)))
But if this feature request is supported by community I can add it :)

Could you please file JIRA?

On Tue, 2 Apr 2019 at 04:55, BBS Technik  wrote:

> this functionality is also available in commercial products such as webex.
> best regards
>
> Ed
>
>
> *Gesendet:* Montag, 01. April 2019 um 20:48 Uhr
> *Von:* "R. Scholz" 
> *An:* user@openmeetings.apache.org
> *Betreff:* Re: OM 5 - Userlist, only visible for moderator/admin
> Hello Maxim,
>
> in my opinion it is not a "fake" or a "false information".
> When I make a "webinar" I think it is not necessary that all viewer can
> see how many and who is viewing.
>
> Best regards,
>
> René
>
>
> Am 01.04.2019 um 14:57 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>
> So it will be "fake user list", not "hidden user list" 
> not sure it is good idea to display false information
>
> Maybe others have some thoughts on topic?
>
> On Mon, 1 Apr 2019 at 19:54, René Scholz <
> rene.sch...@abakus-edv-systems.de> wrote:
>
>> Hello Maxim,
>>
>> it's not necessary to hide the userlist completely.
>> It will be enough when the the user only see himself in the list. And the
>> moderator (admin?) see the complete list.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> René
>>
>>
>> Am 01.04.2019 um 14:17 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>
>> Hello René,
>>
>> It is currently impossible to hide user list
>> And, to be fair, I see no way how this can be implemented: currently
>> buttons to start/stop audio/video stream and to request ant rights are
>> located on sidebar
>> In case user list and files area will be hidden - sidebar also need to be
>> removed
>>
>> Maybe you can share some picture demonstration how this could look like?
>>
>> On Mon, 1 Apr 2019 at 01:45, R. Scholz 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> yesterday I had installed the newest Snapshot  of OM5.
>>>
>>> Fantastic the "step-by-step-installation-manual" from Alvaro. Easy to
>>> understand, without problems. Very very Nice!
>>> And Maxim: I remembered our discussion in the past about "Flash or not
>>> to be (Flash)": Very good work from you.
>>> With the WebRTC OM is prepared for the future.
>>>
>>> Today I tried to configure a room where only the moderator can see the
>>> userlist. All other members shoulöd not see which other persons are
>>> online.
>>>
>>> I have a look into the "hidden room elements" in the room-configuration.
>>> But the userlist is not one of the elements I can hide.
>>>
>>> Have anyone an idea?
>>>
>>> With best rergards,
>>>
>>> René
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> WBR
>> Maxim aka solomax
>>
>>
>
> --
> WBR
> Maxim aka solomax
>
>

-- 
WBR
Maxim aka solomax

Aw: Re: OM 5 - Userlist, only visible for moderator/admin

[BBS Technik]

this functionality is also available in commercial products such as webex.
best regards

Ed
 

 

Gesendet: Montag, 01. April 2019 um 20:48 Uhr
Von: "R. Scholz" 
An: user@openmeetings.apache.org
Betreff: Re: OM 5 - Userlist, only visible for moderator/admin


Hello Maxim,

in my opinion it is not a "fake" or a "false information".
When I make a "webinar" I think it is not necessary that all viewer can see how many and who is viewing.

Best regards,

René

 
Am 01.04.2019 um 14:57 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:


So it will be "fake user list", not "hidden user list" 
not sure it is good idea to display false information 

 

Maybe others have some thoughts on topic?

 


On Mon, 1 Apr 2019 at 19:54, René Scholz <rene.sch...@abakus-edv-systems.de> wrote:



Hello Maxim,

it's not necessary to hide the userlist completely.
It will be enough when the the user only see himself in the list. And the moderator (admin?) see the complete list.

Best regards,

René


Am 01.04.2019 um 14:17 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:


Hello René,
 

It is currently impossible to hide user list

And, to be fair, I see no way how this can be implemented: currently buttons to start/stop audio/video stream and to request ant rights are located on sidebar

In case user list and files area will be hidden - sidebar also need to be removed

 

Maybe you can share some picture demonstration how this could look like?

 


On Mon, 1 Apr 2019 at 01:45, R. Scholz <rene.sch...@abakus-edv-systems.de> wrote:

Hello,

yesterday I had installed the newest Snapshot  of OM5.

Fantastic the "step-by-step-installation-manual" from Alvaro. Easy to
understand, without problems. Very very Nice!
And Maxim: I remembered our discussion in the past about "Flash or not
to be (Flash)": Very good work from you.
With the WebRTC OM is prepared for the future.

Today I tried to configure a room where only the moderator can see the
userlist. All other members shoulöd not see which other persons are online.

I have a look into the "hidden room elements" in the room-configuration.
But the userlist is not one of the elements I can hide.

Have anyone an idea?

With best rergards,

René


 

 

 
--

WBR
Maxim aka solomax




 

 
--

WBR
Maxim aka solomax

Re: OM 5 - Userlist, only visible for moderator/admin

[R. Scholz]

Hello Maxim,

in my opinion it is not a "fake" or a "false information".
When I make a "webinar" I think it is not necessary that all viewer can 
see how many and who is viewing.


Best regards,

René


Am 01.04.2019 um 14:57 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:

So it will be "fake user list", not "hidden user list" 
not sure it is good idea to display false information

Maybe others have some thoughts on topic?

On Mon, 1 Apr 2019 at 19:54, René Scholz 
> wrote:


Hello Maxim,

it's not necessary to hide the userlist completely.
It will be enough when the the user only see himself in the list.
And the moderator (admin?) see the complete list.

Best regards,

René


Am 01.04.2019 um 14:17 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:

Hello René,

It is currently impossible to hide user list
And, to be fair, I see no way how this can be implemented:
currently buttons to start/stop audio/video stream and to request
ant rights are located on sidebar
In case user list and files area will be hidden - sidebar also
need to be removed

Maybe you can share some picture demonstration how this could
look like?

On Mon, 1 Apr 2019 at 01:45, R. Scholz
mailto:rene.sch...@abakus-edv-systems.de>> wrote:

Hello,

yesterday I had installed the newest Snapshot  of OM5.

Fantastic the "step-by-step-installation-manual" from Alvaro.
Easy to
understand, without problems. Very very Nice!
And Maxim: I remembered our discussion in the past about
"Flash or not
to be (Flash)": Very good work from you.
With the WebRTC OM is prepared for the future.

Today I tried to configure a room where only the moderator
can see the
userlist. All other members shoulöd not see which other
persons are online.

I have a look into the "hidden room elements" in the
room-configuration.
But the userlist is not one of the elements I can hide.

Have anyone an idea?

With best rergards,

René





-- 
WBR

Maxim aka solomax




--
WBR
Maxim aka solomax

Re: OM 5 - Userlist, only visible for moderator/admin

[Maxim Solodovnik]

So it will be "fake user list", not "hidden user list" 
not sure it is good idea to display false information

Maybe others have some thoughts on topic?

On Mon, 1 Apr 2019 at 19:54, René Scholz 
wrote:

> Hello Maxim,
>
> it's not necessary to hide the userlist completely.
> It will be enough when the the user only see himself in the list. And the
> moderator (admin?) see the complete list.
>
> Best regards,
>
> René
>
>
> Am 01.04.2019 um 14:17 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>
> Hello René,
>
> It is currently impossible to hide user list
> And, to be fair, I see no way how this can be implemented: currently
> buttons to start/stop audio/video stream and to request ant rights are
> located on sidebar
> In case user list and files area will be hidden - sidebar also need to be
> removed
>
> Maybe you can share some picture demonstration how this could look like?
>
> On Mon, 1 Apr 2019 at 01:45, R. Scholz 
> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> yesterday I had installed the newest Snapshot  of OM5.
>>
>> Fantastic the "step-by-step-installation-manual" from Alvaro. Easy to
>> understand, without problems. Very very Nice!
>> And Maxim: I remembered our discussion in the past about "Flash or not
>> to be (Flash)": Very good work from you.
>> With the WebRTC OM is prepared for the future.
>>
>> Today I tried to configure a room where only the moderator can see the
>> userlist. All other members shoulöd not see which other persons are
>> online.
>>
>> I have a look into the "hidden room elements" in the room-configuration.
>> But the userlist is not one of the elements I can hide.
>>
>> Have anyone an idea?
>>
>> With best rergards,
>>
>> René
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> --
> WBR
> Maxim aka solomax
>
>
>

-- 
WBR
Maxim aka solomax

Re: OM 5 - Userlist, only visible for moderator/admin

[René Scholz]

Hello Maxim,

it's not necessary to hide the userlist completely.
It will be enough when the the user only see himself in the list. And 
the moderator (admin?) see the complete list.


Best regards,

René


Am 01.04.2019 um 14:17 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:

Hello René,

It is currently impossible to hide user list
And, to be fair, I see no way how this can be implemented: currently 
buttons to start/stop audio/video stream and to request ant rights are 
located on sidebar
In case user list and files area will be hidden - sidebar also need to 
be removed


Maybe you can share some picture demonstration how this could look like?

On Mon, 1 Apr 2019 at 01:45, R. Scholz 
> wrote:


Hello,

yesterday I had installed the newest Snapshot  of OM5.

Fantastic the "step-by-step-installation-manual" from Alvaro. Easy to
understand, without problems. Very very Nice!
And Maxim: I remembered our discussion in the past about "Flash or
not
to be (Flash)": Very good work from you.
With the WebRTC OM is prepared for the future.

Today I tried to configure a room where only the moderator can see
the
userlist. All other members shoulöd not see which other persons
are online.

I have a look into the "hidden room elements" in the
room-configuration.
But the userlist is not one of the elements I can hide.

Have anyone an idea?

With best rergards,

René





--
WBR
Maxim aka solomax

Re: OM 5 - Userlist, only visible for moderator/admin

[Maxim Solodovnik]

Hello René,

It is currently impossible to hide user list
And, to be fair, I see no way how this can be implemented: currently
buttons to start/stop audio/video stream and to request ant rights are
located on sidebar
In case user list and files area will be hidden - sidebar also need to be
removed

Maybe you can share some picture demonstration how this could look like?

On Mon, 1 Apr 2019 at 01:45, R. Scholz 
wrote:

> Hello,
>
> yesterday I had installed the newest Snapshot  of OM5.
>
> Fantastic the "step-by-step-installation-manual" from Alvaro. Easy to
> understand, without problems. Very very Nice!
> And Maxim: I remembered our discussion in the past about "Flash or not
> to be (Flash)": Very good work from you.
> With the WebRTC OM is prepared for the future.
>
> Today I tried to configure a room where only the moderator can see the
> userlist. All other members shoulöd not see which other persons are online.
>
> I have a look into the "hidden room elements" in the room-configuration.
> But the userlist is not one of the elements I can hide.
>
> Have anyone an idea?
>
> With best rergards,
>
> René
>
>
>
>

-- 
WBR
Maxim aka solomax