Re: Apache Camel EOL Versions

2020-12-15 Thread Claus Ibsen
On Tue, Dec 15, 2020 at 5:40 PM Ajmera, Hemang C  wrote:
>
>
> Hi
>My understanding was that LTS version will be supported for 1 year. So 
> even if 3.7 is release version 3.4 will be continued to be supported for bugs 
> and security fixes. Did I misunderstood something?
>

Yes each LTS has 1 year of support. And about 2 LTS releases per year.


> This is the reference 
> https://camel.apache.org/blog/2020/03/LTS-Release-Schedule/
>
>
> Thanks and Regards,
> Hemang Ajmera
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Zoran Regvart 
> Sent: 15 December 2020 21:42
> To: Symphoni Bush - NOAA Affiliate 
> Cc: users@camel.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Apache Camel EOL Versions
>
>
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> Hi Symphoni,
> I wonder where you found the owner mail alias? Moving the conversation to the 
> users mailing list.
>
> I'll try to answer to the best of my abilities, others may correct me.
>
> Answer differs slightly based on the major version (2.x or 3.x). For 2.x we 
> supported the latest two releases. Since version 3.x we support the latest 
> and last two LTS versions. Exception to that is when we released 3.0 we opted 
> to support the latest 2.x release as well. All other versions should be 
> considered EOL at the release of a newer version. This is with respect to 
> what we're willing to do here at ASF.
> Organizations providing commercial support for Camel would most likely have 
> their own definition of support and EOL dates.
>
> So the date a version is considered EOL is:
>
> 1/ for 2.x releases: when a new minor release was done, the second oldest 
> minor release was considered EOL, for example 2.25.0 was released on 
> 2020-01-23, making 2.23.x EOL from that date.
>
> 2/ for non-LTS 3.x: we consider non-LTS releases EOL as soon as a newer 
> non-LTS is released, for example 3.6.0 was released on
> 2020-09-20 making 3.5.0 EOL on that date.
>
> 3/ for LTS 3.x: we support the last two LTS releases (currently 3.4 and soon 
> 3.7), 3.4 will be EOL with the the LTS release done after 3.7
>
> List of versions and release dates is available in the release archive on the 
> website here:
>
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://camel.apache.org/releases/__;!!AaIhyw!8JFXRBAgcpSfw70r1k6EnsebuUKzZTTL_40k3z4yUhPywv-HIeEhZcvJ91E7908T$
>
> It goes back only to 2.18 as that's where we stopped migrating old data to 
> the new website. For older dates you need to either go to the mailing list 
> archives or to the wiki[1] which was the source for the old website.
>
> You can find further information in the LTS schedule for 2020 blog post:
>
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://camel.apache.org/blog/2020/03/LTS-Release-Schedule/__;!!AaIhyw!8JFXRBAgcpSfw70r1k6EnsebuUKzZTTL_40k3z4yUhPywv-HIeEhZcvJ94ppx4Js$
>
> zoran
>
> [1] 
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CAMEL/Download__;!!AaIhyw!8JFXRBAgcpSfw70r1k6EnsebuUKzZTTL_40k3z4yUhPywv-HIeEhZcvJ97YrWBkI$
>
> On Tue, Dec 15, 2020 at 4:25 PM Symphoni Bush - NOAA Affiliate 
>  wrote:
> >
> > Good morning,
> >
> > I am trying to figure out what versions of Apache Camel are EOL and if so, 
> > what dates these versions became EOL. If there is somewhere this 
> > information is stored, please let me know.
> >
> > Thanks
>
>
>
> --
> Zoran Regvart



-- 
Claus Ibsen
-
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R: RE: Apache Camel EOL Versions

2020-12-15 Thread Andrea Cosentino
3.4.x will be supported as lts for one year from the release date of 3.4.0

Inviato da Yahoo Mail su Android 
 
  Il mar, 15 dic, 2020 alle 17:40, Ajmera, Hemang C ha 
scritto:   
Hi
  My understanding was that LTS version will be supported for 1 year. So even 
if 3.7 is release version 3.4 will be continued to be supported for bugs and 
security fixes. Did I misunderstood something?

This is the reference 
https://camel.apache.org/blog/2020/03/LTS-Release-Schedule/


Thanks and Regards,
Hemang Ajmera


-Original Message-
From: Zoran Regvart  
Sent: 15 December 2020 21:42
To: Symphoni Bush - NOAA Affiliate 
Cc: users@camel.apache.org
Subject: Re: Apache Camel EOL Versions


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Hi Symphoni,
I wonder where you found the owner mail alias? Moving the conversation to the 
users mailing list.

I'll try to answer to the best of my abilities, others may correct me.

Answer differs slightly based on the major version (2.x or 3.x). For 2.x we 
supported the latest two releases. Since version 3.x we support the latest and 
last two LTS versions. Exception to that is when we released 3.0 we opted to 
support the latest 2.x release as well. All other versions should be considered 
EOL at the release of a newer version. This is with respect to what we're 
willing to do here at ASF.
Organizations providing commercial support for Camel would most likely have 
their own definition of support and EOL dates.

So the date a version is considered EOL is:

1/ for 2.x releases: when a new minor release was done, the second oldest minor 
release was considered EOL, for example 2.25.0 was released on 2020-01-23, 
making 2.23.x EOL from that date.

2/ for non-LTS 3.x: we consider non-LTS releases EOL as soon as a newer non-LTS 
is released, for example 3.6.0 was released on
2020-09-20 making 3.5.0 EOL on that date.

3/ for LTS 3.x: we support the last two LTS releases (currently 3.4 and soon 
3.7), 3.4 will be EOL with the the LTS release done after 3.7

List of versions and release dates is available in the release archive on the 
website here:

https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://camel.apache.org/releases/__;!!AaIhyw!8JFXRBAgcpSfw70r1k6EnsebuUKzZTTL_40k3z4yUhPywv-HIeEhZcvJ91E7908T$
 

It goes back only to 2.18 as that's where we stopped migrating old data to the 
new website. For older dates you need to either go to the mailing list archives 
or to the wiki[1] which was the source for the old website.

You can find further information in the LTS schedule for 2020 blog post:

https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://camel.apache.org/blog/2020/03/LTS-Release-Schedule/__;!!AaIhyw!8JFXRBAgcpSfw70r1k6EnsebuUKzZTTL_40k3z4yUhPywv-HIeEhZcvJ94ppx4Js$
 

zoran

[1] 
https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CAMEL/Download__;!!AaIhyw!8JFXRBAgcpSfw70r1k6EnsebuUKzZTTL_40k3z4yUhPywv-HIeEhZcvJ97YrWBkI$
 

On Tue, Dec 15, 2020 at 4:25 PM Symphoni Bush - NOAA Affiliate 
 wrote:
>
> Good morning,
>
> I am trying to figure out what versions of Apache Camel are EOL and if so, 
> what dates these versions became EOL. If there is somewhere this information 
> is stored, please let me know.
>
> Thanks



--
Zoran Regvart
  


RE: Apache Camel EOL Versions

2020-12-15 Thread Ajmera, Hemang C

Hi
   My understanding was that LTS version will be supported for 1 year. So even 
if 3.7 is release version 3.4 will be continued to be supported for bugs and 
security fixes. Did I misunderstood something?

This is the reference 
https://camel.apache.org/blog/2020/03/LTS-Release-Schedule/


Thanks and Regards,
Hemang Ajmera


-Original Message-
From: Zoran Regvart  
Sent: 15 December 2020 21:42
To: Symphoni Bush - NOAA Affiliate 
Cc: users@camel.apache.org
Subject: Re: Apache Camel EOL Versions


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Hi Symphoni,
I wonder where you found the owner mail alias? Moving the conversation to the 
users mailing list.

I'll try to answer to the best of my abilities, others may correct me.

Answer differs slightly based on the major version (2.x or 3.x). For 2.x we 
supported the latest two releases. Since version 3.x we support the latest and 
last two LTS versions. Exception to that is when we released 3.0 we opted to 
support the latest 2.x release as well. All other versions should be considered 
EOL at the release of a newer version. This is with respect to what we're 
willing to do here at ASF.
Organizations providing commercial support for Camel would most likely have 
their own definition of support and EOL dates.

So the date a version is considered EOL is:

1/ for 2.x releases: when a new minor release was done, the second oldest minor 
release was considered EOL, for example 2.25.0 was released on 2020-01-23, 
making 2.23.x EOL from that date.

2/ for non-LTS 3.x: we consider non-LTS releases EOL as soon as a newer non-LTS 
is released, for example 3.6.0 was released on
2020-09-20 making 3.5.0 EOL on that date.

3/ for LTS 3.x: we support the last two LTS releases (currently 3.4 and soon 
3.7), 3.4 will be EOL with the the LTS release done after 3.7

List of versions and release dates is available in the release archive on the 
website here:

https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://camel.apache.org/releases/__;!!AaIhyw!8JFXRBAgcpSfw70r1k6EnsebuUKzZTTL_40k3z4yUhPywv-HIeEhZcvJ91E7908T$
 

It goes back only to 2.18 as that's where we stopped migrating old data to the 
new website. For older dates you need to either go to the mailing list archives 
or to the wiki[1] which was the source for the old website.

You can find further information in the LTS schedule for 2020 blog post:

https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://camel.apache.org/blog/2020/03/LTS-Release-Schedule/__;!!AaIhyw!8JFXRBAgcpSfw70r1k6EnsebuUKzZTTL_40k3z4yUhPywv-HIeEhZcvJ94ppx4Js$
 

zoran

[1] 
https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CAMEL/Download__;!!AaIhyw!8JFXRBAgcpSfw70r1k6EnsebuUKzZTTL_40k3z4yUhPywv-HIeEhZcvJ97YrWBkI$
 

On Tue, Dec 15, 2020 at 4:25 PM Symphoni Bush - NOAA Affiliate 
 wrote:
>
> Good morning,
>
> I am trying to figure out what versions of Apache Camel are EOL and if so, 
> what dates these versions became EOL. If there is somewhere this information 
> is stored, please let me know.
>
> Thanks



--
Zoran Regvart


Re: Apache Camel EOL Versions

2020-12-15 Thread Claus Ibsen
Hi

For Camel 2.x at this moment then Camel 2.25.x is the only supported
release. We only do patch releases, and there are no new minor
releases (eg 2.26) planned. Camel 2.x is very likely to be EOL by the
end of 2021, and we mainly only at this time put effort into security
fixes. The 2.x is not active developed anymore.

For Camel 3 then we only support LTS releases by patch releases, where
an LTS release is supported for 1 year.
The non-LTS releases are released as-is without any patch release expected.

And to clairy then "support" here means that we will accept code
changes and backport and do patch releases.

As always anyone using any release of Camel can get help and support
in the community.
For example if you use Camel 3.6.0 and has a problem, then the
community can help support you. But if we find a bug in 3.6.0,
then as its a non LTS release then its not fixed in that release, but
as always in the master branch and on the LTS branches (if possible).




On Tue, Dec 15, 2020 at 5:12 PM Zoran Regvart  wrote:
>
> Hi Symphoni,
> I wonder where you found the owner mail alias? Moving the conversation
> to the users mailing list.
>
> I'll try to answer to the best of my abilities, others may correct me.
>
> Answer differs slightly based on the major version (2.x or 3.x). For
> 2.x we supported the latest two releases. Since version 3.x we support
> the latest and last two LTS versions. Exception to that is when we
> released 3.0 we opted to support the latest 2.x release as well. All
> other versions should be considered EOL at the release of a newer
> version. This is with respect to what we're willing to do here at ASF.
> Organizations providing commercial support for Camel would most likely
> have their own definition of support and EOL dates.
>
> So the date a version is considered EOL is:
>
> 1/ for 2.x releases: when a new minor release was done, the second
> oldest minor release was considered EOL, for example 2.25.0 was
> released on 2020-01-23, making 2.23.x EOL from that date.
>
> 2/ for non-LTS 3.x: we consider non-LTS releases EOL as soon as a
> newer non-LTS is released, for example 3.6.0 was released on
> 2020-09-20 making 3.5.0 EOL on that date.
>
> 3/ for LTS 3.x: we support the last two LTS releases (currently 3.4
> and soon 3.7), 3.4 will be EOL with the the LTS release done after 3.7
>
> List of versions and release dates is available in the release archive
> on the website here:
>
> https://camel.apache.org/releases/
>
> It goes back only to 2.18 as that's where we stopped migrating old
> data to the new website. For older dates you need to either go to the
> mailing list archives or to the wiki[1] which was the source for the
> old website.
>
> You can find further information in the LTS schedule for 2020 blog post:
>
> https://camel.apache.org/blog/2020/03/LTS-Release-Schedule/
>
> zoran
>
> [1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CAMEL/Download
>
> On Tue, Dec 15, 2020 at 4:25 PM Symphoni Bush - NOAA Affiliate
>  wrote:
> >
> > Good morning,
> >
> > I am trying to figure out what versions of Apache Camel are EOL and if so, 
> > what dates these versions became EOL. If there is somewhere this 
> > information is stored, please let me know.
> >
> > Thanks
>
>
>
> --
> Zoran Regvart



-- 
Claus Ibsen
-
http://davsclaus.com @davsclaus
Camel in Action 2: https://www.manning.com/ibsen2


Re: Apache Camel EOL Versions

2020-12-15 Thread Zoran Regvart
Hi Symphoni,
I wonder where you found the owner mail alias? Moving the conversation
to the users mailing list.

I'll try to answer to the best of my abilities, others may correct me.

Answer differs slightly based on the major version (2.x or 3.x). For
2.x we supported the latest two releases. Since version 3.x we support
the latest and last two LTS versions. Exception to that is when we
released 3.0 we opted to support the latest 2.x release as well. All
other versions should be considered EOL at the release of a newer
version. This is with respect to what we're willing to do here at ASF.
Organizations providing commercial support for Camel would most likely
have their own definition of support and EOL dates.

So the date a version is considered EOL is:

1/ for 2.x releases: when a new minor release was done, the second
oldest minor release was considered EOL, for example 2.25.0 was
released on 2020-01-23, making 2.23.x EOL from that date.

2/ for non-LTS 3.x: we consider non-LTS releases EOL as soon as a
newer non-LTS is released, for example 3.6.0 was released on
2020-09-20 making 3.5.0 EOL on that date.

3/ for LTS 3.x: we support the last two LTS releases (currently 3.4
and soon 3.7), 3.4 will be EOL with the the LTS release done after 3.7

List of versions and release dates is available in the release archive
on the website here:

https://camel.apache.org/releases/

It goes back only to 2.18 as that's where we stopped migrating old
data to the new website. For older dates you need to either go to the
mailing list archives or to the wiki[1] which was the source for the
old website.

You can find further information in the LTS schedule for 2020 blog post:

https://camel.apache.org/blog/2020/03/LTS-Release-Schedule/

zoran

[1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CAMEL/Download

On Tue, Dec 15, 2020 at 4:25 PM Symphoni Bush - NOAA Affiliate
 wrote:
>
> Good morning,
>
> I am trying to figure out what versions of Apache Camel are EOL and if so, 
> what dates these versions became EOL. If there is somewhere this information 
> is stored, please let me know.
>
> Thanks



-- 
Zoran Regvart