Re: Custom billing Application using CloudStack API
Thank you all for your help, this user list is great. De: ilya musayev ilya.mailing.li...@gmail.commailto:ilya.mailing.li...@gmail.com Responder a: users@cloudstack.apache.orgmailto:users@cloudstack.apache.org users@cloudstack.apache.orgmailto:users@cloudstack.apache.org Fecha: miércoles, 5 de marzo de 2014 5:58 p.m. Para: users@cloudstack.apache.orgmailto:users@cloudstack.apache.org users@cloudstack.apache.orgmailto:users@cloudstack.apache.org Asunto: Re: Custom billing Application using CloudStack API We've used Amysta for CloudStack Billing Solution. Easy to integrate, flexible and affordable. I've done a demo here. Fast forward to 10:45 (this is an older version, newer is obviously better) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wuEPoxVlBM On Wednesday, March 5, 2014, Paul Angus paul.an...@shapeblue.commailto:paul.an...@shapeblue.com wrote: Hi Juan, We (ShapeBlue) have done a number of projects involving billing integration with Cloud Portal Business Manager so we would certainly have insights into how this can be achieved. Perhaps you should get in touch with us off-list Regards Paul Angus Cloud Architect S: +44 20 3603 0540 | M: +447711418784 | T: CloudyAngus paul.an...@shapeblue.commailto:paul.an...@shapeblue.com -Original Message- From: Juan Gomez [mailto:juan.go...@kumo.com.co] Sent: 05 March 2014 16:23 To: users@cloudstack.apache.orgmailto:users@cloudstack.apache.org Subject: Custom billing Application using CloudStack API Hi everyone I work for a company name Kumo (www.kumo.com.co). We are one of the most important public clouds in Colombia, all of our platforms are based on cloudstack and Cloud business portal. Right now we have a very complex problem because we are not being able to bill our costumers automatically. This is because all of our costumers have different prices for the same kind of product or VM, this is due to commercial issues and negotiations that are necessary to do in the colombian market. So we want to build a billing web application using the cloudstack API in order to create bills for costumers in an automatically way and also send alerts and take actions to suspend services if payments are not being received. Does anyone know examples of this kind of application using the cloudstack API, or have any insights on how we should approach this problem. Thank you for your help and pardon my bad spelling. Email asegurado por Check Point Need Enterprise Grade Support for Apache CloudStack? Our CloudStack Infrastructure Support http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-infrastructure-support/ offers the best 24/7 SLA for CloudStack Environments. Apache CloudStack Bootcamp training courses **NEW!** CloudStack 4.2.1 training http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-training/ 18th-19th February 2014, Brazil. Classroom http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-training/ 17th-23rd March 2014, Region A. Instructor led, On-line http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-training/ 24th-28th March 2014, Region B. Instructor led, On-line http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-training/ 16th-20th June 2014, Region A. Instructor led, On-line http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-training/ 23rd-27th June 2014, Region B. Instructor led, On-line http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-training/ This email and any attachments to it may be confidential and are intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any views or opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Shape Blue Ltd or related companies. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you must neither take any action based upon its contents, nor copy or show it to anyone. Please contact the sender if you believe you have received this email in error. Shape Blue Ltd is a company incorporated in England Wales. ShapeBlue Services India LLP is a company incorporated in India and is operated under license from Shape Blue Ltd. Shape Blue Brasil Consultoria Ltda is a company incorporated in Brasil and is operated under license from Shape Blue Ltd. ShapeBlue is a registered trademark. Email asegurado por Check Point Email asegurado por Check Point
RE: Custom billing Application using CloudStack API
Hi Juan, My experience is merely a case of looking on the Hostbill website I'm afraid. I have a feeling that the solution may be subject to some limitations - I'm not sure how it handles resources that aren't originally provisioned by the Hostbill interface, and there's a noticeable lack of info on provisioning and billing for VPCs and advanced networking but perhaps not an issue for you. The demos I've seen seem to be focussed on using Cloudstack as a basic VPS hosting platform. Unfortunately that's about the extent of the insight I can offer. Search for Hostbill Cloudstack and you'll find a few demos with screenshots on their site. If anyone has looked into this in greater detail, I too would be keen to hear about your experiences. Adrian -Original Message- From: Juan Gomez [mailto:juan.go...@kumo.com.co] Sent: 06 March 2014 15:39 To: users@cloudstack.apache.org Subject: Re: Custom billing Application using CloudStack API Does anyone know in more depth if Hostbill is a good solution for billing with cloudstack? Or how was your experience using Hostbill integrated with cloudstack?. De: Adrian Lewis adr...@alsiconsulting.co.ukmailto:adr...@alsiconsulting.co.uk Responder a: users@cloudstack.apache.orgmailto:users@cloudstack.apache.org users@cloudstack.apache.orgmailto:users@cloudstack.apache.org Fecha: jueves, 6 de marzo de 2014 8:57 a.m. Para: users@cloudstack.apache.orgmailto:users@cloudstack.apache.org users@cloudstack.apache.orgmailto:users@cloudstack.apache.org Asunto: RE: Custom billing Application using CloudStack API Not sure of the quality or its applicability to what you're doing but Hostbill have recently updated their Cloudstack integration to work with the usage data for a more utility-like way of billing. -Original Message- From: Juan Gomez [mailto:juan.go...@kumo.com.co] Sent: 06 March 2014 13:54 To: users@cloudstack.apache.orgmailto:users@cloudstack.apache.org Subject: Re: Custom billing Application using CloudStack API Thank you all for your help, this user list is great. De: ilya musayev ilya.mailing.li...@gmail.commailto:ilya.mailing.li...@gmail.commailto: ilya.mailing.li...@gmail.com Responder a: users@cloudstack.apache.orgmailto:users@cloudstack.apache.orgmailto:us e...@cloudstack.apache.org users@cloudstack.apache.orgmailto:users@cloudstack.apache.orgmailto:us e...@cloudstack.apache.org Fecha: miércoles, 5 de marzo de 2014 5:58 p.m. Para: users@cloudstack.apache.orgmailto:users@cloudstack.apache.orgmailto:us e...@cloudstack.apache.org users@cloudstack.apache.orgmailto:users@cloudstack.apache.orgmailto:us e...@cloudstack.apache.org Asunto: Re: Custom billing Application using CloudStack API We've used Amysta for CloudStack Billing Solution. Easy to integrate, flexible and affordable. I've done a demo here. Fast forward to 10:45 (this is an older version, newer is obviously better) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wuEPoxVlBM On Wednesday, March 5, 2014, Paul Angus paul.an...@shapeblue.commailto:paul.an...@shapeblue.commailto:paul.ang u...@shapeblue.com wrote: Hi Juan, We (ShapeBlue) have done a number of projects involving billing integration with Cloud Portal Business Manager so we would certainly have insights into how this can be achieved. Perhaps you should get in touch with us off-list Regards Paul Angus Cloud Architect S: +44 20 3603 0540 | M: +447711418784 | T: CloudyAngus paul.an...@shapeblue.commailto:paul.an...@shapeblue.commailto:paul.angu s...@shapeblue.com -Original Message- From: Juan Gomez [mailto:juan.go...@kumo.com.co] Sent: 05 March 2014 16:23 To: users@cloudstack.apache.orgmailto:users@cloudstack.apache.orgmailto:use r...@cloudstack.apache.org Subject: Custom billing Application using CloudStack API Hi everyone I work for a company name Kumo (www.kumo.com.co). We are one of the most important public clouds in Colombia, all of our platforms are based on cloudstack and Cloud business portal. Right now we have a very complex problem because we are not being able to bill our costumers automatically. This is because all of our costumers have different prices for the same kind of product or VM, this is due to commercial issues and negotiations that are necessary to do in the colombian market. So we want to build a billing web application using the cloudstack API in order to create bills for costumers in an automatically way and also send alerts and take actions to suspend services if payments are not being received. Does anyone know examples of this kind of application using the cloudstack API, or have any insights on how we should approach this problem. Thank you for your help and pardon my bad spelling. Email asegurado por Check Point Need Enterprise Grade Support for Apache CloudStack? Our CloudStack Infrastructure Support http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-infrastructure-support/ offers the best 24/7 SLA for CloudStack Environments. Apache CloudStack Bootcamp training courses **NEW!** CloudStack 4.2.1 training http
Re: Custom billing Application using CloudStack API
Hi Adrian I have the same concerns about the Hostbill solution as you do, What about Zuora ? Has anybody try them does their solution has a good integration with cloudstack? De: Adrian Lewis adr...@alsiconsulting.co.ukmailto:adr...@alsiconsulting.co.uk Responder a: users@cloudstack.apache.orgmailto:users@cloudstack.apache.org users@cloudstack.apache.orgmailto:users@cloudstack.apache.org Fecha: jueves, 6 de marzo de 2014 11:22 a.m. Para: users@cloudstack.apache.orgmailto:users@cloudstack.apache.org users@cloudstack.apache.orgmailto:users@cloudstack.apache.org Asunto: RE: Custom billing Application using CloudStack API Hi Juan, My experience is merely a case of looking on the Hostbill website I'm afraid. I have a feeling that the solution may be subject to some limitations - I'm not sure how it handles resources that aren't originally provisioned by the Hostbill interface, and there's a noticeable lack of info on provisioning and billing for VPCs and advanced networking but perhaps not an issue for you. The demos I've seen seem to be focussed on using Cloudstack as a basic VPS hosting platform. Unfortunately that's about the extent of the insight I can offer. Search for Hostbill Cloudstack and you'll find a few demos with screenshots on their site. If anyone has looked into this in greater detail, I too would be keen to hear about your experiences. Adrian -Original Message- From: Juan Gomez [mailto:juan.go...@kumo.com.co] Sent: 06 March 2014 15:39 To: users@cloudstack.apache.orgmailto:users@cloudstack.apache.org Subject: Re: Custom billing Application using CloudStack API Does anyone know in more depth if Hostbill is a good solution for billing with cloudstack? Or how was your experience using Hostbill integrated with cloudstack?. De: Adrian Lewis adr...@alsiconsulting.co.ukmailto:adr...@alsiconsulting.co.ukmailto:adr...@alsiconsulting.co.uk Responder a: users@cloudstack.apache.orgmailto:users@cloudstack.apache.orgmailto:users@cloudstack.apache.org users@cloudstack.apache.orgmailto:users@cloudstack.apache.orgmailto:users@cloudstack.apache.org Fecha: jueves, 6 de marzo de 2014 8:57 a.m. Para: users@cloudstack.apache.orgmailto:users@cloudstack.apache.orgmailto:users@cloudstack.apache.org users@cloudstack.apache.orgmailto:users@cloudstack.apache.orgmailto:users@cloudstack.apache.org Asunto: RE: Custom billing Application using CloudStack API Not sure of the quality or its applicability to what you're doing but Hostbill have recently updated their Cloudstack integration to work with the usage data for a more utility-like way of billing. -Original Message- From: Juan Gomez [mailto:juan.go...@kumo.com.co] Sent: 06 March 2014 13:54 To: users@cloudstack.apache.orgmailto:users@cloudstack.apache.orgmailto:users@cloudstack.apache.org Subject: Re: Custom billing Application using CloudStack API Thank you all for your help, this user list is great. De: ilya musayev ilya.mailing.li...@gmail.commailto:ilya.mailing.li...@gmail.commailto:ilya.mailing.li...@gmail.commailto: ilya.mailing.li...@gmail.commailto:ilya.mailing.li...@gmail.com Responder a: users@cloudstack.apache.orgmailto:users@cloudstack.apache.orgmailto:users@cloudstack.apache.orgmailto:us e...@cloudstack.apache.orgmailto:e...@cloudstack.apache.org users@cloudstack.apache.orgmailto:users@cloudstack.apache.orgmailto:users@cloudstack.apache.orgmailto:us e...@cloudstack.apache.orgmailto:e...@cloudstack.apache.org Fecha: miércoles, 5 de marzo de 2014 5:58 p.m. Para: users@cloudstack.apache.orgmailto:users@cloudstack.apache.orgmailto:users@cloudstack.apache.orgmailto:us e...@cloudstack.apache.orgmailto:e...@cloudstack.apache.org users@cloudstack.apache.orgmailto:users@cloudstack.apache.orgmailto:users@cloudstack.apache.orgmailto:us e...@cloudstack.apache.orgmailto:e...@cloudstack.apache.org Asunto: Re: Custom billing Application using CloudStack API We've used Amysta for CloudStack Billing Solution. Easy to integrate, flexible and affordable. I've done a demo here. Fast forward to 10:45 (this is an older version, newer is obviously better) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wuEPoxVlBM On Wednesday, March 5, 2014, Paul Angus paul.an...@shapeblue.commailto:paul.an...@shapeblue.commailto:paul.an...@shapeblue.commailto:paul.ang u...@shapeblue.commailto:u...@shapeblue.com wrote: Hi Juan, We (ShapeBlue) have done a number of projects involving billing integration with Cloud Portal Business Manager so we would certainly have insights into how this can be achieved. Perhaps you should get in touch with us off-list Regards Paul Angus Cloud Architect S: +44 20 3603 0540 | M: +447711418784 | T: CloudyAngus paul.an...@shapeblue.commailto:paul.an...@shapeblue.commailto:paul.an...@shapeblue.commailto:paul.angu s...@shapeblue.commailto:s...@shapeblue.com -Original Message- From: Juan Gomez [mailto:juan.go...@kumo.com.co] Sent: 05 March 2014 16:23 To: users@cloudstack.apache.orgmailto:users@cloudstack.apache.orgmailto:users
Re: Custom billing Application using CloudStack API
I was avoiding the convo and looking forward to the Denver talk, but since HB was directly mentioned... We use Hostbill…opinions are mixed, mostly because they encrypt the php code so we can’t easily modify things. We are not yet using the metered billing functionality. Hostbill’s management are engineers with little business sense, and unfortunately frequently rub customers the wrong way, as a result customers have created their own forums[1] I think when hb shut down the ones they used to run. They’re quick to respond, the the product is constantly gaining new functionality, so there are a lot of positives about the product. Actually, browsing around, I see they charge new customers for the CS module now…sigh. What I’d say is if you’re looking to run a clean/simple public IaaS and need a customer control panel/billing solution, consider HB. If you expect to need more functionality than on their CS page [2], at some point it’ll be better to build in-house. I’d love to see a solid open-source replacement for things like WHMCS/Hostbill, but this is one of those areas where companies tend to build in-house. John 1:http://hostbillforums.com/ 2:http://hostbillapp.com/features/apps/cloudstack.html On Mar 6, 2014, at 7:38 AM, Juan Gomez juan.go...@kumo.com.co wrote: Does anyone know in more depth if Hostbill is a good solution for billing with cloudstack? Or how was your experience using Hostbill integrated with cloudstack?. De: Adrian Lewis adr...@alsiconsulting.co.ukmailto:adr...@alsiconsulting.co.uk Responder a: users@cloudstack.apache.orgmailto:users@cloudstack.apache.org users@cloudstack.apache.orgmailto:users@cloudstack.apache.org Fecha: jueves, 6 de marzo de 2014 8:57 a.m. Para: users@cloudstack.apache.orgmailto:users@cloudstack.apache.org users@cloudstack.apache.orgmailto:users@cloudstack.apache.org Asunto: RE: Custom billing Application using CloudStack API Not sure of the quality or its applicability to what you're doing but Hostbill have recently updated their Cloudstack integration to work with the usage data for a more utility-like way of billing. -Original Message- From: Juan Gomez [mailto:juan.go...@kumo.com.co] Sent: 06 March 2014 13:54 To: users@cloudstack.apache.orgmailto:users@cloudstack.apache.org Subject: Re: Custom billing Application using CloudStack API Thank you all for your help, this user list is great. De: ilya musayev ilya.mailing.li...@gmail.commailto:ilya.mailing.li...@gmail.commailto:ilya.mailing.li...@gmail.com Responder a: users@cloudstack.apache.orgmailto:users@cloudstack.apache.orgmailto:users@cloudstack.apache.org users@cloudstack.apache.orgmailto:users@cloudstack.apache.orgmailto:users@cloudstack.apache.org Fecha: miércoles, 5 de marzo de 2014 5:58 p.m. Para: users@cloudstack.apache.orgmailto:users@cloudstack.apache.orgmailto:users@cloudstack.apache.org users@cloudstack.apache.orgmailto:users@cloudstack.apache.orgmailto:users@cloudstack.apache.org Asunto: Re: Custom billing Application using CloudStack API We've used Amysta for CloudStack Billing Solution. Easy to integrate, flexible and affordable. I've done a demo here. Fast forward to 10:45 (this is an older version, newer is obviously better) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wuEPoxVlBM On Wednesday, March 5, 2014, Paul Angus paul.an...@shapeblue.commailto:paul.an...@shapeblue.commailto:paul.an...@shapeblue.com wrote: Hi Juan, We (ShapeBlue) have done a number of projects involving billing integration with Cloud Portal Business Manager so we would certainly have insights into how this can be achieved. Perhaps you should get in touch with us off-list Regards Paul Angus Cloud Architect S: +44 20 3603 0540 | M: +447711418784 | T: CloudyAngus paul.an...@shapeblue.commailto:paul.an...@shapeblue.commailto:paul.an...@shapeblue.com -Original Message- From: Juan Gomez [mailto:juan.go...@kumo.com.co] Sent: 05 March 2014 16:23 To: users@cloudstack.apache.orgmailto:users@cloudstack.apache.orgmailto:users@cloudstack.apache.org Subject: Custom billing Application using CloudStack API Hi everyone I work for a company name Kumo (www.kumo.com.co). We are one of the most important public clouds in Colombia, all of our platforms are based on cloudstack and Cloud business portal. Right now we have a very complex problem because we are not being able to bill our costumers automatically. This is because all of our costumers have different prices for the same kind of product or VM, this is due to commercial issues and negotiations that are necessary to do in the colombian market. So we want to build a billing web application using the cloudstack API in order to create bills for costumers in an automatically way and also send alerts and take actions to suspend services if payments are not being received. Does anyone know examples of this kind of application using the cloudstack API, or have any insights
Custom billing Application using cloudstack API
Hi everyone I work for a company name Kumo (www.kumo.com.co). We are one of the most important public clouds in Colombia, all of our platforms are based on cloudstack and Cloud business portal. Right now we have a very complex problem because we are not being able to bill our costumers automatically. This is because all of our costumers have different prices for the same kind of product or VM, this is due to commercial issues and negotiations that are necessary to do in the colombian market. So we want to build a billing web application using the cloudstack API in order to create bills for costumers in an automatically way and also send alerts and take actions to suspend services if payments are not being received. Does anyone know examples of this kind of application using the cloudstack API, or have any insights on how we should approach this problem. Thank you for your help and pardon my bad spelling. Email asegurado por Check Point
Re: Custom billing Application using CloudStack API
We've used Amysta for CloudStack Billing Solution. Easy to integrate, flexible and affordable. I've done a demo here. Fast forward to 10:45 (this is an older version, newer is obviously better) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wuEPoxVlBM On Wednesday, March 5, 2014, Paul Angus paul.an...@shapeblue.com wrote: Hi Juan, We (ShapeBlue) have done a number of projects involving billing integration with Cloud Portal Business Manager so we would certainly have insights into how this can be achieved. Perhaps you should get in touch with us off-list Regards Paul Angus Cloud Architect S: +44 20 3603 0540 | M: +447711418784 | T: CloudyAngus paul.an...@shapeblue.com -Original Message- From: Juan Gomez [mailto:juan.go...@kumo.com.co] Sent: 05 March 2014 16:23 To: users@cloudstack.apache.org Subject: Custom billing Application using CloudStack API Hi everyone I work for a company name Kumo (www.kumo.com.co). We are one of the most important public clouds in Colombia, all of our platforms are based on cloudstack and Cloud business portal. Right now we have a very complex problem because we are not being able to bill our costumers automatically. This is because all of our costumers have different prices for the same kind of product or VM, this is due to commercial issues and negotiations that are necessary to do in the colombian market. So we want to build a billing web application using the cloudstack API in order to create bills for costumers in an automatically way and also send alerts and take actions to suspend services if payments are not being received. Does anyone know examples of this kind of application using the cloudstack API, or have any insights on how we should approach this problem. Thank you for your help and pardon my bad spelling. Email asegurado por Check Point Need Enterprise Grade Support for Apache CloudStack? Our CloudStack Infrastructure Support http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-infrastructure-support/ offers the best 24/7 SLA for CloudStack Environments. Apache CloudStack Bootcamp training courses **NEW!** CloudStack 4.2.1 training http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-training/ 18th-19th February 2014, Brazil. Classroom http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-training/ 17th-23rd March 2014, Region A. Instructor led, On-line http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-training/ 24th-28th March 2014, Region B. Instructor led, On-line http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-training/ 16th-20th June 2014, Region A. Instructor led, On-line http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-training/ 23rd-27th June 2014, Region B. Instructor led, On-line http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-training/ This email and any attachments to it may be confidential and are intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any views or opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Shape Blue Ltd or related companies. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you must neither take any action based upon its contents, nor copy or show it to anyone. Please contact the sender if you believe you have received this email in error. Shape Blue Ltd is a company incorporated in England Wales. ShapeBlue Services India LLP is a company incorporated in India and is operated under license from Shape Blue Ltd. Shape Blue Brasil Consultoria Ltda is a company incorporated in Brasil and is operated under license from Shape Blue Ltd. ShapeBlue is a registered trademark.
