Re: FreeBSD 7, DragonFly's status

2008-02-28 Thread Dave Hayes
Rahul Siddharthan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm still keeping an eye on DragonFly, and hope to run it again one of these days. I think the biggest problem in FreeBSD that DragonFly fixes is attitude. It's not a completely accurate answer, but attitude is certainly sufficient in my book. I

Re: FreeBSD 7, DragonFly's status

2008-02-28 Thread Dmitri Nikulin
On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 4:09 PM, Justin C. Sherrill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, February 27, 2008 11:29 pm, Dmitri Nikulin wrote: The benchmark at http://people.freebsd.org/~kris/scaling/os-mysql.png (for the full presentation, see http://www.freedomtc.com/pdf/7.0_Preview.pdf, that

Re: FreeBSD 7, DragonFly's status

2008-02-28 Thread Steve O'Hara-Smith
On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 21:53:36 +1100 Dmitri Nikulin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 4:09 PM, Justin C. Sherrill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, February 27, 2008 11:29 pm, Dmitri Nikulin wrote: The benchmark at http://people.freebsd.org/~kris/scaling/os-mysql.png

Re: DragonFly 1.12 Released!

2008-02-28 Thread none
Petr Janda wrote: The DragonFly live cd doesn't have a GUI. If you want to test DragonFly you should install it and then use pkgsrc to install GUI. Petr OK. Thanks! Best regards Sten Solberg

Re: FreeBSD 7, DragonFly's status

2008-02-28 Thread Justin C. Sherrill
On Thu, February 28, 2008 5:53 am, Dmitri Nikulin wrote: before internet clustering becomes useful at all. That's my biggest fear regarding this project - that by the time its highest goals are achievable, the full potential of those goals will still be out of reach, perhaps forever. Only if

Re: FreeBSD 7, DragonFly's status

2008-02-28 Thread Petr Janda
Sure, but SMP scalability is one of the key goals of DragonFly, and for it to be beaten by NetBSD (for which this is not a major goal, and for which SMP scalability only started being worked on a year ago) is very confusing. I haven't seen it compared with 1.12, but since no huge scalability

laptop lcd vs external lcd panel Xorg

2008-02-28 Thread mustkaru
Hi, I installed 1.12.0 on my laptop along with 1.10.1 packages (should the packages really be recompiled or can I use 1.10.1 binary packages?). I use an external lcd panel since laptop screen is too small. Now when booting, I switch the screen output to go to the external lcd panel only (ie

Re: FreeBSD 7, DragonFly's status

2008-02-28 Thread Matthew Dillon
Well, I'll give you my 5-second opinion. What I am not worried about: * Developer interest has always increased slowly and continues to do so. I'd be interested in commit statistics but my gut feeling, from NOT having to push into subsystems that I used to

Re: laptop lcd vs external lcd panel Xorg

2008-02-28 Thread Justin C. Sherrill
On Thu, February 28, 2008 12:23 pm, mustkaru wrote: Hi, I installed 1.12.0 on my laptop along with 1.10.1 packages (should the packages really be recompiled or can I use 1.10.1 binary packages?). I I don't have a good answer on the xorg difference between releases, but: most/all of the

Re: laptop lcd vs external lcd panel Xorg

2008-02-28 Thread mustkaru
On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 6:38 PM, Justin C. Sherrill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, February 28, 2008 12:23 pm, mustkaru wrote: Hi, I installed 1.12.0 on my laptop along with 1.10.1 packages (should the packages really be recompiled or can I use 1.10.1 binary packages?). I I don't

Re: laptop lcd vs external lcd panel Xorg

2008-02-28 Thread Justin C. Sherrill
On Thu, February 28, 2008 1:50 pm, mustkaru wrote: Thanks, am looking forward to 1.12 bin packages! Could you possibly send an announcement to the list too? I will - it took I think 8 days to get through the first build for 1.10, so it'll be a little while.

Re: FreeBSD 7, DragonFly's status

2008-02-28 Thread Sascha Wildner
Matthew Dillon wrote: * Similarly with AMD64. We need it. I've developed the infrastructure separation required and we even have a fully virtualized kernel (vkernel) which demonstratres the infrastructure separation. Most of the generic kernel code can

pkgsrc distfiles (was Re: laptop lcd vs external lcd panel Xorg)

2008-02-28 Thread Jeremy C. Reed
I don't have a good answer on the xorg difference between releases, but: most/all of the 1.10.1 packages should work, as I understand it. We'll have 1.12 binary packages soon; I have to get through a build on pkgbox. That reminds me. Maybe the pbulk or whatever you are using allows you to

Re: FreeBSD 7, DragonFly's status

2008-02-28 Thread Bill Hacker
Matthew Dillon wrote: Well, I'll give you my 5-second opinion. *snip* * Our interrupt routing subsystem really needs a major upgrade. (i.e. a major port from FreeBSD). Given that theirs has choked several times on some fairly common hardware that DID work thru 6.2

Re: FreeBSD 7, DragonFly's status

2008-02-28 Thread Vincent Stemen
On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 07:13:25PM +, Bill Hacker wrote: Matthew Dillon wrote: I spent more time then I should have perfecting the low level infrastructure, trying to build a base upon which all the other work could occur.

Re: laptop lcd vs external lcd panel Xorg

2008-02-28 Thread Matthew Dillon
: I installed 1.12.0 on my laptop along with 1.10.1 packages (should the : packages really be recompiled or can I use 1.10.1 binary packages?). I : :I don't have a good answer on the xorg difference between releases, but: :most/all of the 1.10.1 packages should work, as I understand it. We'll

Re: FreeBSD 7, DragonFly's status

2008-02-28 Thread Matthew Dillon
Stability is important to me but I also recognize that even the best project can become stale if one does not choose to develop the right aspects of it. A weakness in DragonFly is that it took a while to get to the more interesting things, like HAMMER, and will take yet longer

Re: FreeBSD 7, DragonFly's status

2008-02-28 Thread Dmitri Nikulin
On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 5:05 AM, Matthew Dillon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I'll give you my 5-second opinion. What I am not worried about: ... * Ports and packages. This was a huge worry of mine at the beginning of the project. I no longer worry about it.