Need help updating /boot

2010-09-24 Thread Dennis Melentyev
Hi all, I'm trying to update v2.7.3.689.g853fe-DEVELOPMENT to latest. Built successfully, installkernel complaints install new /boot first (or something close to this). I know, there was a major rewrite in boot/dloader, but neither UPDATING nor Makefile gives me a clue on what I have to do. --

Re: Need help updating /boot

2010-09-24 Thread Dennis Melentyev
Ok, solved. This part does not work for me: -- kern.post.mk -- kernel-installable: @if [ -f ${DESTDIR}/${DESTKERNNAME} ]; then \ echo You need to make buildworld, installworld, and upgrade; \ echo before you can install a new kernel, because the; \

Re: Need help updating /boot

2010-09-24 Thread Peter Avalos
On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 09:42:23AM +0300, Dennis Melentyev wrote: Hi all, I'm trying to update** v2.7.3.689.g853fe-DEVELOPMENT to latest. Built successfully, installkernel complaints install new /boot first (or something close to this). make installworld before you do

make installkernel error You need to install a new /boot before you can install a new kernel, kernels are now installed

2010-09-24 Thread Siju George
On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 8:36 AM, Matthew Dillon dil...@apollo.backplane.com wrote: :I have kept my Backup server from upgrading because of this. I am :running the development version. Is it ok to upgrade to current? : :thanks :-) : :--Siju    We are still finding bugs but I think 95% of

Re: make installkernel error You need to install a new /boot before you can install a new kernel, kernels are now installed

2010-09-24 Thread Matthew Dillon
:How do I fix this? : :thanks : :--Siju buildworld / installworld first, then buildkernel / installkernel. -Matt Matthew Dillon dil...@backplane.com

Re: make installkernel error You need to install a new /boot before you can install a new kernel, kernels are now installed

2010-09-24 Thread Siju George
On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 12:37 PM, Matthew Dillon dil...@apollo.backplane.com wrote: :How do I fix this? : :thanks : :--Siju    buildworld / installworld first, then buildkernel / installkernel. Thanks :-) Is that going to be order from now on? --Siju

Re: make installkernel error You need to install a new /boot before you can install a new kernel, kernels are now installed

2010-09-24 Thread Matthew Dillon
:Thanks :-) : :Is that going to be order from now on? : :--Siju No, its a special case. The old boot code would have a hard time finding the kernel in its new location so the new boot code needs to be installed before the new kernel can be.

Re: make installkernel error You need to install a new /boot before you can install a new kernel, kernels are now installed

2010-09-24 Thread Alex Hornung
No, only the first time to update to the new loader (dloader). After doing it once you can do the usual buildworld buildkernel installkernel installworld. Cheers, Alex On 24 September 2010 08:12, Siju George sgeorge...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 12:37 PM, Matthew Dillon

Re: make installkernel error You need to install a new /boot before you can install a new kernel, kernels are now installed

2010-09-24 Thread Steve O'Hara-Smith
On Fri, 24 Sep 2010 00:07:20 -0700 (PDT) Matthew Dillon dil...@apollo.backplane.com wrote: :How do I fix this? : :thanks : :--Siju buildworld / installworld first, then buildkernel / installkernel. This is worth a note in UPDATING as it reverses the normal order. -- Steve

Re: make installkernel error You need to install a new /boot before you can install a new kernel, kernels are now installed

2010-09-24 Thread Siju George
On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 12:56 PM, Matthew Dillon dil...@apollo.backplane.com wrote: :Thanks :-) : :Is that going to be order from now on? : :--Siju   No, its a special case.  The old boot code would have a hard time   finding the kernel in its new location so the new boot code needs   to

Re: Why did you choose DragonFly?

2010-09-24 Thread Siju George
On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 1:03 AM, Samuel J. Greear s...@evilcode.net wrote: What has drawn you to use the DragonFly BSD operating system and/or participate in its development by following this list? For me it was a Journey in search of the right software for the Job I had in my hands. I first

Re: Need help updating /boot

2010-09-24 Thread Dennis Melentyev
Thanks, Peter. grepped for the message and finally did it. Uptime 4:24 so far :) On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 9:59 AM, Peter Avalos pe...@theshell.com wrote: On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 09:42:23AM +0300, Dennis Melentyev wrote: Hi all, I'm trying to update** v2.7.3.689.g853fe-DEVELOPMENT

Looking for some programming tasks to do

2010-09-24 Thread elekktretterr
I've been learning C++ for about a year now(own about 5 books on it), and I also started doing a couple of projects in the language at work, but I feel I need to use/understand plain C a bit more. Is there any projects on DragonFly that are easy enough that I can pickup? Few hundred lines of code?

Re: Looking for some programming tasks to do

2010-09-24 Thread Samuel J. Greear
On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 5:55 AM, elekktrett...@exemail.com.au wrote: I've been learning C++ for about a year now(own about 5 books on it), and I also started doing a couple of projects in the language at work, but I feel I need to use/understand plain C a bit more. Is there any projects on

Weird entry in ISO

2010-09-24 Thread Przemysław Pawełczyk
Hi, Three questions. 1. I opened DFBSD x64 ISO in latest Red Hat Linux (Scientific Linux 5.5) under the control of Midnight Commander and saw the following entries within file lists (in MC panel): ... [ -200 00 ] cpio [ -201 00] mailq etc ... What does it mean? 2. Why there is no Lynx

Re: Weird entry in ISO

2010-09-24 Thread Joe Talbott
On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 02:04:25PM +0200, Przemys??aw Pawe??czyk wrote: Hi, Three questions. 1. I opened DFBSD x64 ISO in latest Red Hat Linux (Scientific Linux 5.5) under the control of Midnight Commander and saw the following entries within file lists (in MC panel): ... [ -200 00

Re: Weird entry in ISO

2010-09-24 Thread Przemysław Pawełczyk
On Fri, 24 Sep 2010 08:18:32 -0400 Joe Talbott jose...@cstone.net wrote: On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 02:04:25PM +0200, Przemys??aw Pawe??czyk wrote: Hi, Three questions. 1. I opened DFBSD x64 ISO in latest Red Hat Linux (Scientific Linux 5.5) under the control of Midnight Commander

Re: Weird entry in ISO

2010-09-24 Thread Alex Hornung
On 24/09/10 13:37, Przemysław Pawełczyk wrote: I know, and I would expect such answer. No offense please, but for how long yet such attitude will prevail in Unix community? It lingers from 80s of the last... Cenury of the last Millennium. ;-) Sorry, but I simply fail to see why we need 'mc'

Re: Looking for some programming tasks to do

2010-09-24 Thread Alex Hornung
On 24/09/10 13:56, elekktrett...@exemail.com.au wrote: Please don't use C++ arbitrarily. C will do fine for all those projects as far as I can tell and is the preferred way. Even for userland? Petr I am talking about userland; yes. Unless you have a compelling reason to do something

Re: Weird entry in ISO

2010-09-24 Thread Przemysław Pawełczyk
On Fri, 24 Sep 2010 13:43:26 +0100 Alex Hornung ahorn...@gmail.com wrote: On 24/09/10 13:37, Przemysław Pawełczyk wrote: I know, and I would expect such answer. No offense please, but for how long yet such attitude will prevail in Unix community? It lingers from 80s of the last... Cenury

Re: Weird entry in ISO

2010-09-24 Thread Justin C. Sherrill
On Fri, September 24, 2010 8:37 am, Przemysław Pawełczyk wrote: I know, and I would expect such answer. No offense please, but for how long yet such attitude will prevail in Unix community? It lingers from 80s of the last... Cenury of the last Millennium. ;-) The LiveDVD image (dfly-gui-*)

Re: Weird entry in ISO

2010-09-24 Thread Samuel J. Greear
2010/9/24 Przemysław Pawełczyk pp...@o2.pl: On Fri, 24 Sep 2010 13:43:26 +0100 Alex Hornung ahorn...@gmail.com wrote: On 24/09/10 13:37, Przemysław Pawełczyk wrote: I know, and I would expect such answer. No offense please, but for how long yet such attitude will prevail in Unix community?

Re: Weird entry in ISO

2010-09-24 Thread Steve O'Hara-Smith
On Fri, 24 Sep 2010 15:07:50 +0200 Przemysław Pawełczyk pp...@o2.pl wrote: On Fri, 24 Sep 2010 13:43:26 +0100 Alex Hornung ahorn...@gmail.com wrote: On 24/09/10 13:37, Przemysław Pawełczyk wrote: I know, and I would expect such answer. No offense please, but for how long yet such

Re: Weird entry in ISO

2010-09-24 Thread Przemysław Pawełczyk
On Fri, 24 Sep 2010 09:13:57 -0400 Justin C. Sherrill jus...@shiningsilence.com wrote: The error you saw was probably from a pkg_install version check; you can rebuild/upgrade it locally, and then things should work. pkg_install recently had a version check introduced where other packages

Re: Why did you choose DragonFly?

2010-09-24 Thread Siju George
On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 7:12 PM, Justin C. Sherrill jus...@shiningsilence.com wrote: On Fri, September 24, 2010 6:28 am, Siju George wrote: What I am looking forward to? 1) CARP implementation whereby I can run 2 systems on the same IP 2) Qemu support so I can make DragonFly my main Desktop

Re: Weird entry in ISO

2010-09-24 Thread Przemysław Pawełczyk
On Fri, 24 Sep 2010 14:28:16 +0100 Steve O'Hara-Smith st...@sohara.org wrote: On Fri, 24 Sep 2010 15:07:50 +0200 Przemysław Pawełczyk pp...@o2.pl wrote: On Fri, 24 Sep 2010 13:43:26 +0100 Alex Hornung ahorn...@gmail.com wrote: On 24/09/10 13:37, Przemysław Pawełczyk wrote: I

Re: Weird entry in ISO

2010-09-24 Thread Przemysław Pawełczyk
On Fri, 24 Sep 2010 07:27:20 -0600 Samuel J. Greear s...@evilcode.net wrote: 2010/9/24 Przemysław Pawełczyk pp...@o2.pl: On Fri, 24 Sep 2010 13:43:26 +0100 Alex Hornung ahorn...@gmail.com wrote: On 24/09/10 13:37, Przemysław Pawełczyk wrote: I know, and I would expect such answer. No

Re: Weird entry in ISO

2010-09-24 Thread Sdävtaker
What about DF basic system software divided into sets similar to sets found in OpenBSD? You got metapackages in pkg_src Sorry, but I simply did not fail to see that DFBSD system might gain having such tools distibuted on its ISO and be the leader on the BSD trek of all BSD flavors. For

Re: Weird entry in ISO

2010-09-24 Thread Przemysław Pawełczyk
On Fri, 24 Sep 2010 11:04:14 -0300 Sdävtaker sdavta...@gmail.com wrote: What about DF basic system software divided into sets similar to sets found in OpenBSD? You got metapackages in pkg_src Sorry, but I simply did not fail to see that DFBSD system might gain having such tools

Re: Weird entry in ISO

2010-09-24 Thread Steve O'Hara-Smith
On Fri, 24 Sep 2010 15:53:14 +0200 Przemysław Pawełczyk pp...@o2.pl wrote: On Fri, 24 Sep 2010 14:28:16 +0100 Steve O'Hara-Smith st...@sohara.org wrote: The problem here is that it's an endless cycle which culminates in an install that needs a blu-ray disc and comes with everything

Re: Why did you choose DragonFly?

2010-09-24 Thread Justin C. Sherrill
On Fri, September 24, 2010 9:49 am, Siju George wrote: Oh thanks :-) Hope I will get sounds from the VMs too on my hardware. So Iculd run a Linux VM for flash ;-) I think multimedia/libflashsupport will work, so you can get your browser on DragonFly running it. I had success with it some

Re: Weird entry in ISO

2010-09-24 Thread Tomas Bodzar
2010/9/24 Przemysław Pawełczyk pp...@o2.pl: On Fri, 24 Sep 2010 14:28:16 +0100 Steve O'Hara-Smith st...@sohara.org wrote: On Fri, 24 Sep 2010 15:07:50 +0200 Przemysław Pawełczyk pp...@o2.pl wrote: On Fri, 24 Sep 2010 13:43:26 +0100 Alex Hornung ahorn...@gmail.com wrote: On 24/09/10

Re: Weird entry in ISO

2010-09-24 Thread Pierre Abbat
On Friday 24 September 2010 10:17:45 Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: It's simple - you want mc and lynx, someone else wants bash and vim, someone else wants links and emacs, another person wants TeX, and screen ... I think that the CD should have pkgin and install it. Any packages like mc and

Re: Weird entry in ISO

2010-09-24 Thread Steve O'Hara-Smith
On Fri, 24 Sep 2010 11:38:02 -0400 Pierre Abbat p...@phma.optus.nu wrote: On Friday 24 September 2010 10:17:45 Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: It's simple - you want mc and lynx, someone else wants bash and vim, someone else wants links and emacs, another person wants TeX, and screen ...

Re: Weird entry in ISO

2010-09-24 Thread Rumko
Przemysław Pawełczyk wrote: On Fri, 24 Sep 2010 17:06:40 +0200 Tomas Bodzar tomas.bod...@gmail.com wrote: snip And yes, lynx in OpenBSD base install is fine, but they have much more developers and money from users so if you want it in Dfly then pay someone or do it yourself or more simple

Re: Weird entry in ISO

2010-09-24 Thread Tomas Bodzar
2010/9/24 Przemysław Pawełczyk pp...@o2.pl: On Fri, 24 Sep 2010 17:06:40 +0200 Tomas Bodzar tomas.bod...@gmail.com wrote: (...)       Not at all - just because these tools are not in the base system does not mean they're not easily available just install them with pkg_radd or pkgin or

DragonflyBSD under VMware ESX - someone use it?

2010-09-24 Thread Tomas Bodzar
Hi all, is there someone who is using DragonflyBSD under VMware ESX platform and what are his/her thoughts about it? Thanx a lot -- “If you’re good at something, never do it for free.” —The Joker

Re: DragonflyBSD under VMware ESX - someone use it?

2010-09-24 Thread Michael Neumann
Am 24.09.2010 19:20, schrieb Tomas Bodzar: Hi all, is there someone who is using DragonflyBSD under VMware ESX platform and what are his/her thoughts about it? Not on VMware, but I run DragonFly under KVM and it works like a charm! Regards, Michael

Re: Weird entry in ISO

2010-09-24 Thread Matthew Dillon
Our base ISO/IMG will always be small and will not have any bells and whistles. pkg_radd (via internet connectivity) is *the* official way to get more packages installed after an installation. Trying to pack packages onto CDs, DVDs, or large images has historically been a big

Re: DragonflyBSD under VMware ESX - someone use it?

2010-09-24 Thread Jan Lentfer
Michael Neumann schrieb: Not on VMware, but I run DragonFly under KVM and it works like a charm! I also run several DF VMs under KVM/qemu (Debian), very good, just leave APIC_IO disabled for SMP VMs. Jan

chlamydia inconsistency?

2010-09-24 Thread Przemysław Pawełczyk
Hi, I am checking DFBSD in VBox under Scientific Linux (RHEL) and I have found inconsistency in entries: 1) http://www.dragonflybsd.org/mirrors/ IMPORTANT: If you operate a DragonFly mirror server listed below, please check if you still rsync from chlamydia.fs.ei.tum.de! If yes, please rsync

chlamydia inconsistency? part II.

2010-09-24 Thread Przemysław Pawełczyk
Hi, I was too optimistic. I tried to get MC running using compilation but the procedure also ended up with segmentation fault. See the two pictures from the MC series: http://pp.blast.pl/www.png/dfbsd/df_02.png http://pp.blast.pl/www.png/dfbsd/df_03.png I gave up as for now. ;-) Regards --

Re: chlamydia inconsistency? part III

2010-09-24 Thread Justin C. Sherrill
On Fri, September 24, 2010 6:50 pm, Przemysław Pawełczyk wrote: Hi, I checked directory tree. Here's a screenshot: http://pp.blast.pl/www.png/dfbsd/df_04.png The slices' sizes were suggested by DFBSD, I didn't touch them. Are the values correct? The values are correct, but something ate